Draw Thread!

File: rin.png (416KB, 1061x920px) Image search: [Google]

416KB, 1061x920px

For a friend.. Stheno medusa sister, c&c welcom

File: IMG_2733.jpg (4MB, 4608x3456px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 4608x3456px

Portfolio drawing for architecture school application

>>2409483
gj firez!
Although closing the eyes isnt the way to fix your problem ;)

>>2409561
pretty dope

>>2409543
I like the texture on the lower half

>>2409543
the brush/pattern along the snake belly is pretty lazy (snake bellies don't look like that), and just draws attention to the complete lack of texture nearby (where are the scales)
anatomy could use some brushing up on as well, the neck area is weirdly undefined, same as the hips

>>2409652
Thanks ^^
>>2409688
I must admit i was too lazy to do a decent snake belly x.x, any tips on the hips? i dont really know what to do.. sry

File: Pixlr.jpg (2MB, 2560x1440px)

2MB, 2560x1440px

Drawing of Omega Flowey I started because I was bored

>>2409561
>architecture school
Design a crumbling castle...

Nice drawing though

>>2409839
you missed the cringe thread, buddy

>>2409849
das mean

>>2409839
take t hat style nozzle and crank it down a few dozen notches.

>>2409877
lips r a little too wide, eyes instantly went there not in a good way but its gorgeous otherwise
maybe a little shine on the melon
tits look alot bigger outside shirt look flatter in shirt which is off

File: request.png (84KB, 800x604px) Image search: [Google]

84KB, 800x604px

1/2
reposting
did this as a start of a tg request. havent touched ps in months.

File: art is hard.png (167KB, 800x800px)

167KB, 800x800px

>>2409909
and some general studying, with plenty of fuck ups lol.

>>2409839
aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>2409839
dat waardenburg syndrome

>>2409839
>>2409892
>>2409916
>>2409919

yall gunna critique or just make fun

>>2409921
>>2409839
her eyes are too far apart and go in completely opposite directions, the angle in which we're viewing the eye doesn't match the angle in which we're viewing the face. Her eyebrows are too high up and shes missing half of her skull. The neck is too small and short. The necklace is flat and lacks a sense of form.

File: fuck12.jpg (86KB, 800x1000px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 800x1000px

>>2409923
hows this/can u go to the original and make it look good

File: face2.png (608KB, 1040x1384px)

608KB, 1040x1384px

some anon told me to do more studies

>>2410006
well he's right you know

File: sfy6xwk.png (332KB, 681x998px) Image search: [Google]

332KB, 681x998px

>>2409127

anon in beginner thread told me to go bolder?? how do i know when it's dark enough??

>>2410006
Why do you draw with such wispy lines?

File: paintover.jpg (321KB, 800x1000px) Image search: [Google]

321KB, 800x1000px

>>2409839

>>2410057
stop tracing

>>2409839
Is she a deer animoprh mid transformation?

>>2410062
Is that supposed to be an improvement?

File: february-22-2016.jpg (849KB, 1000x710px) Image search: [Google]

849KB, 1000x710px

i painted a boat

>>2409543
Very nice lighting and depth in this, I'm mad jelly!

>>2410057
Legs are tiny!

File: qp2.png (556KB, 709x1076px) Image search: [Google]

556KB, 709x1076px

>>2409566
I don't think it is such a widespread issue as some of you claim, I often find my way before finishing my stuff.

Át this moment I'm more concerned about how I fucked up the perspective of the headphones.

File: 16 small.jpg (115KB, 600x950px)

115KB, 600x950px

Please tell me what to fix before i continue.

>>2410505
They are like that in the ref tho

>>2410069
Why? It easier on the eyes to practice value with

File: february-22-2016-1.jpg (302KB, 679x800px) Image search: [Google]

302KB, 679x800px

45 minute drawing from today

>>2410707
>5 minutes looking at the model
>40 minutes applying muh style

>>2410740
>22 years of being the best artist who ever lived

File: conan-rofl.gif (2MB, 400x226px)

2MB, 400x226px

>>2410742
holy fucking shit

>>2410707
>>2410740
Looks great to me. Stylizing something from reference is a great way to learn too.

>>2410753
thanks
>>2410750
right, it's you anon. i forget sometimes. my mistake

https://pl.pinterest.com/pin/357895501618170059/
Step by step drawing from a random photo. Opinions?

File: stud1.jpg (189KB, 609x1000px) Image search: [Google]

189KB, 609x1000px

doing an acrylic study from photoref

>>2410707
this is good, is it done?

>>2409543
value pattern is nice, watch the arm anatomy and lighting on the belly

>>2409825
geez, don't they teach you in highschool to resize your image and read the sticky?

>>2409877
this is creepy af, i get that you're playing with face proportions, but you haven't hit on something appealing.

>>2410446
it's cool! i think the bottom half of the ship needs some clarification.. not reading clearly.

>>2410701
torso is waaaaay too short. you need to study anatomy and practice from life.

>>2410503
Thanks so much bro =)), Means a lot

File: princess1.jpg (492KB, 752x800px) Image search: [Google]

492KB, 752x800px

Got picked for the gamegrumps artbook yay

>>2410830
>this is good, is it done?
yeah unfortunately there's some details i missed out on because the session ended like the pattern on his bandana and stronger values for the whole thing but i'm gonna leave it as it is. im going to another model drawing session in an hour so if i have anything good from there ill post it.

>it's cool! i think the bottom half of the ship needs some clarification.. not reading clearly.
agreed but I'd like to move on from it I don't like the color I chose for the background i should've made the water and the sky siennas and umbers like I did for the ship ( would've given it a more rustic, atmospheric look) but I wanted to try complimentary colors again. It's just... idk. It's so kitsch looking. I get that it makes things pop more but in the future I think I'm gonna stick with making the background the same colors as the subject because it just looks better to me. Even if it's a little more illustration-y.

File: valentina-wip.jpg (355KB, 601x900px) Image search: [Google]

355KB, 601x900px

>>2410707
really liking this, yet pants look bit veiny. Somewhere the outlines go bit nuts, but I think you'll get around it soon.

This is still wip, but kinda ok. I really need to start constructing these more better, now that I don't even have a eraser. Some clear issues with perspective.

>>2410890
I'd say you need to work on your outlines more than >>2410707 does. A bit heavy handed there.

It's still cool though, I like the mono chrome and subtleness of the rendering.

>>2410897
totally deserved that, you are right. That was kinda the point, but it's not looking that neat. Need to see that again when properly scanned.

>>2410902
Is it possible to erase? I would just do some "hide and seek" line work: keep it heavy in the shadows, and eliminate it in the highlights.

File: tumblr_o2z1q9z0Lw1sl6pc8o1_r1_1280.png (534KB, 698x1000px) Image search: [Google]

534KB, 698x1000px

>>2410514

>>2410846
It's not so much the colour as it is the shape of the bow, buuut if you're giving up then wtvr.

File: kat.jpg (324KB, 721x880px) Image search: [Google]

324KB, 721x880px

>>2410701
I was thinking about how you maybe tried to draw from frog perspective, a girl who is leaning down on her sword, looking towards you? So I thought it's a pretty complicated perspective and I'd like to try doing it. I failed, so if some other anon can give ideas i'd be glad.

>>2410950

neat man. you are improving. but to be completely honest with you, i think even your pretty girl paintings would benefit from you studying other things.

File: wip.jpg (153KB, 760x1039px)

153KB, 760x1039px

does anything look awkward in the bust area? I've looked at this image for so long I can't tell anymore

>>2411004
yo youve been on this for time senpai

>>2411004
This image makes no sense and is pretty much useless. What is the guy sitting on. Where in her body? You should show it on the ground. Were there more people killed? Her glasses would not remain on her face. Why is there a guy enraged and engaging in an attack? Who is he fighting? Are these 2 characters in one scene together? If so, why is one laughing and chilling while another is moments from striking. Sitting guy would have been killed.
Characters are silly ugly. Ugly is good, but these guys are like, godsmack metal music silly. All in all, this picture is a jumbled bunch of nonsense with no story telling or good composition.

File: asd.png (471KB, 807x1039px) Image search: [Google]

471KB, 807x1039px

>>2411254
I don't think there should be shadow anon.

File: DesertScape_01.png (199KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 1920x1080px

just getting started. pretty new to drawing so any comments greatly appreciated

>>2411335
you shouldn't even bother.

File: oHM3bhjh.gif (2MB, 177x150px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 177x150px

>>2411276

File: f_15[1].jpg (139KB, 533x800px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 533x800px

>>2411279
I meant, proportionately
but I am noticing some stuff now, the reason that part looks weird is because it isn't at the right spot

File: february-22-2016-2.jpg (373KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

373KB, 900x900px

>>2411004
poop from a butt

here's a 20 minute pose from tonight

>>2411335
There is a beginner thread you know

File: warm up 60.jpg (81KB, 800x580px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 800x580px

This is a painting i did today, critique is appreciated.

>>2411276
>this much jelly
Are you that same guy that "painted over" it and completely made a fool out of yourself last time ?

>>2411357
Are you really calling 4six's drawing shit? While you posted a manfaced woman with the proportions of a bobble head toy?

>>2411375
No.
THinking anyone that criticises this guy is one person. I'll humor you. It's not jealousy. The drawing is simply nonsensical. NOTHING in that image makes any sense. EVen for a drawing that isn't supposed to make sense. It's loaded with issues. But hey, why the fuck be humble and admit it, right?

>>2411379
who is 4six? is he the guy that made that? too wrinkly, stiff poses, no likeness, can't color, work pace of a snail.

File: blonde.png (862KB, 1004x877px) Image search: [Google]

862KB, 1004x877px

hi guys

>>2411386
Yeah you clearly have no idea who you're talking about, I just wanted to make sure I was seeing what I thought I was seeing.

File: february-22-2016-3.jpg (489KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

489KB, 900x900px

>>2411403
just in case you still think i drew that woman differently than she actually looked. also if you are 4six stop samefagging and do some hand drawings

>>2411403
>>2411375
>>2411343
= the faggot that drew "DRAVEN HEAD"

What a cringey fucking autistic name. DRAVEN

Bro, your drawings are shit. you bought a tablet to just sketch in b&w.

>>2411004
man this.. this image just looks labored. Like every little bit is taking ever ounce of concentration fromyou. It's the opposite of "Oh he makes it look so easy!". This image is "Oh god he makes it look so hard to do..."

>>2411276
I agree that the image is pretty nonsensical but then you just go off the fucking deep end there anon. You just go and complain about the most trivial of shit.

>>2411004
the tattood mexican looks like arlong

even the post fits

>>2411004
>Merc WIP part 2: The Dravening

File: humie.jpg (194KB, 1355x1274px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 1355x1274px

Meant to only practice legs today but got carried away w/ smooth rendering

>>2411276
it clearly conveys the emotion of "i'm a teen who likes death metal and WoW". go back to 1850 with your need of having a picture tell a story.

File: 1456192147244.jpg (79KB, 669x664px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 669x664px

>>2411575
Kill you are self fagget

File: sheeteh.png (629KB, 979x816px) Image search: [Google]

629KB, 979x816px

wip please give critique

File: 1456214403494-639350792.jpg (649KB, 2048x1152px)

649KB, 2048x1152px

I am doodling with crayons I found loose on my messy ass floor.

>>2411469
The fuck is going on with his testicles?

>>2411576
i bet you still get shocked by william turner. Of course i'm insulting you personally, because you personally have such terrible ideas about art. and I don't like the orc picture either.

>>2411582
The angle of the arm holding the ball lookin green mound is cool. The highlight on the forearm is my favourite area of your piece. The most awkward looking bit of the foreground figures body is the neck/ shoulder region. I don't know what to recommend except doing quick figure studies daily as practise, of the whole human form... in particular I would like to see you practise drawing more heads n necks. Faces and hair.

The layout of the general piece is cool as well. The background figure being surrounded by that lightness creates great depth, you should polish up that witchy lookin chick in the back because it'd be a shame to scrap the progress, finish whatcha started baby.

love u. Big hug, little kiss.

>>2411004
>>2411276
>>2411263
>>2411357
>>2411381
>>2411386
>>2411432

Where are all the posts in this guys defense? His progress thread posts have 20 replies sucking his dick, yet they're nowhere to be found now.

>>2411576
I mean I know I am not supposed to admire the character you've developed in angst there... but damn son with gold plated teeth how can I not?

Heheh definitely draw more caricatures son, they are bound to be amusing and it seems you enjoy the process.

>>2411602
He doesn't need defending, his work speaks for itself. Brian doesn't know what he's talking about, that much was obvious when he said 4six can't color alone. Anyone who's seen his environments knows better than that. He's just looking for someone to get into a stupid argument with and it's better to not humor it.

>>2411607
>environments

Mind enlightening me as to when he's ever posted legitimate illustrations? It's pretty much a fact the only thing he ever draws is veiny, grotesque, naked men and women with various weapons and armor; which is cool, but it's pretty silly to suddenly think he can paint and render realistically to the same degree from imagination just because he's good at drawing veins and muscles.

>>2411582
This picture screams trying to run before you can walk. The color and values are good but the anatomy and painting style tells me you don't have your fundies down.

File: WW Sitting 01.jpg (125KB, 700x1120px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 700x1120px

Tried to draw Wonder Woman. No ref but still have trouble with hands and proportions. Anything stand out?

>>2411593

Don't know, I didn't draw them

File: 45ebe3982f535576f705eb862a7960cd.jpg (440KB, 1109x1002px) Image search: [Google]

440KB, 1109x1002px

experimenting with the mixer brush settings in PS for the first time, pretty interesting having a sort of cross with smudge integrated process.

>>2410820
>ref
Oh lawdy dem asian short proportions, i'd like to see the progress on that since i'm thinking of taking up acrylics as well, I've used oils in the past enjoyed how it could blend but i heard acrylic is pretty much painting with plastic.

>>2411279
>>2411254
Are you planning on blening those stroke lines later on? I find using softer brushes on females give the 'feminate' look while using chiseled hard brushes help to give 'masculine'

>>2411632
>dem asian short proportions

I like his stubbiness, he's also missing a finger. :)

File: 14562198500531959925322.jpg (697KB, 2048x1152px) Image search: [Google]

697KB, 2048x1152px

>>2409483
Another recent one, more of a design. Plz tell me your suggestions or opinions peeps.

File: droid1.png (112KB, 529x755px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 529x755px

I need more practice with digital, and learn to draw bigger

>>2411625
Her body - mostly the torso - looks like stretched rubber. If it helps, draw the base forms of the skeleton on its own layer. Get the skull, ribcage an pelvis accurate in their proportions and indicate major plane changes. Pay attention to the viewer's eye level so that you get the perspective right too.

I know you said no ref, but it looks like you referenced a poorly shopped model from a magazine for that torso.

File: bfb16445a9b2b675502020634b1efacb1344faaf1b439d4170ee8fb9886c991e_1.jpg (64KB, 499x491px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 499x491px

>>2411602
4xis here, why would I need any defense ? I just posted a not even half finished illustration and people seem to take it as a whole finished product, they also don't really know who are the characters and the context of the illustration. I'm not saying there's no mistake in it, but I don't really care that a guy who draws 80 yo paraplegic women doesn't like my stuff.

I do admit that I'm still at my first illustrations, I've been sketching and learning my fundamentals until now, and you improve by experimenting I guess.

also, I know i've been on it for a long time, but I just can't find time to draw, not like I'm on it every day and adding a line by day.

File: image.jpg (1MB, 2448x3264px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2448x3264px

gift for a friend. 2 days, about 25 hours. please tell me how to make this better and not the "obvious photo ref, this is trash" meme. 95% of fine artist figure painters use references, get over it.

>>2411711

>>2411731
/ic/ isn't against using photo refs, it's against tracing or using a projector, because you could do the same thing with 5 minutes of photoshop.

But yeah that looks good as long as she's supposed to be super ugly

File: mascotR.jpg (155KB, 2560x1024px) Image search: [Google]

155KB, 2560x1024px

So i'm currently making these characters for an event mascots, what do you think so far? any ideas for the fourth character?

btw, this is only the body design , i will add costumes and accessories later on.

File: icon.png (70KB, 520x500px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 520x500px

I feel like I could add a few more things to this before I finish

>>2411731

Are you the same cunt who got pre-emptively defensive when he posted his oil painting of some girl on a green background?

Holy shit grow up already.

>>2411774
I really like 1 und 3, 2 could need some better values and color variation imo. I think they work good even without clothing but I don't know what you're planning to do with them.

4th character might be something more feminine for variation? Petite and slim?

File: snootsnootmotherfucker.jpg (2MB, 2448x3264px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2448x3264px

>>2409483
I'm an absolute disaster with acrylics. This is my second time working with the medium and I don't know how to blend my colour for shit. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the head not look like I sewed it on the neck? The painting is supposed to be Laika floating in space and the lil' fucker's neck is white and I just can't find a solution on how to make that show while also keeping consistency from one part to the other. On one hand her neck is too brown compared to her actual colours, but on the other hand her head would look even more disconnected if I made it lighter. Lighting source is upper right.

>>2411731
>>2411715
between these two and illastrat this boards turning to shit

>>2411171
Thanks anon, I do draw other stuff but not to the point of proper finished pieces not even to the point of worth posting. However this year I'm aiming to finish some landscapes añd I'm already working on a still life in oils

>>2412070
No anon, you're why this board is shit. Every time there's an even moderately good poster who starts getting compliments shitposters like you start dogpiling them and thus the people most capable of helping all of you improve are driven away time and time again. I'm only talking about 4xis here not the copy machine. The one good thing about this trend is that at least those who've outgrown this place get a clear notification of it and the chance to move on to better venues.

>>2412086
so everyone who gets a bad crit is actually amazing? we just don't see it?

File: default.png (915KB, 691x975px) Image search: [Google]

915KB, 691x975px

i know it's shit but can i have some critiques pls

>>2412096
Learn to read idiot.

>>2412120
alright let me read it one more time...

so everyone who gets a bad crit is actually amazing? we just don't see it?

>>2412096
I know you want to misconstrue my words to make this into a strawman argument but I'll be clear. I'm obviously not talking about everyone who gets a bad critique, I'm not even talking about bad critiques at all. I'm talking about when a clearly skilled artist gets shit on for no reason, and don't even try to say most of those replies were close to good or bad critiques and weren't just attacks. 4xis has done absolutely nothing different from when I first saw him to now in terms of the attitude he presents when he's posting yet there's been a sudden total 180 of the reception of his posts and the only event I note as being different from usual was a small increase in positive replies to his work. Tell yourself whatever you want about how good he is or isn't but he's not the only one it's happened to, the pattern's clear. Those who really are shit just get ignored. /ic/ always turns on those who figure it out instead of learning from them.

>>2411890
I just wanted crits. Bwu. What is this whiney bullshit.

>>2411409
>>2411357
For amateur artist you're pretty full of yourself.

File: makeamericagreatagain7.jpg (374KB, 900x800px)

374KB, 900x800px

>>2409543
that's one sexy snek anon

>>2412086
100%n This, the good ones keep posting less and less, and then make it somewhere while the shitposters still lurk in the darkness of this shithole.

/ic/ is fun because of the format and the somewhat interesting content, but godamn are the people here shitty minded "artists".

>>2412271
insecure pussies aren't welcome on /ic/

>>2412276
Yet this place is full of them, all screaming reee at the real artists until they leave.

>>2412279
>real artists
in reference to >>2411004
thats some embarrassing shit anon. he's definitely the next cezanne

File: image.jpg (188KB, 768x1024px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 768x1024px

jesus, I am done posting on this shithole. You retards think any kind of serious realism is just "photocopying", if all I did was copy a photo my work would be way shittier. im not even going to bother explaining idealizing and expression in portraiture to you basement dwellers, have fun going nowhere

>>2412295
And you're the next nobody. A real artist is anyone who's dedicated to honing their craft. A real nobody is someone who sits around shitposting trying to devalue someone's hard work instead of improving their own.

>>2412060
the fuck is that ? a man or woman?

>>2412307
m8 if you let random ppl on a chinese cartoon board get you angry you arent going anywhere.

>>2412307
>this is what photocopiers believe

File: hldf4clr2s.jpg (183KB, 763x1080px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 763x1080px

>>2412310
it's hilary duff.

File: qtπ.jpg (93KB, 680x962px)

93KB, 680x962px

>>2409483
does this look right?
this angle is kinda hard and cant find decent ref

File: test5.jpg (232KB, 900x1165px) Image search: [Google]

232KB, 900x1165px

still working on this one...

File: february-23-2016.jpg (741KB, 720x900px) Image search: [Google]

741KB, 720x900px

painted this. was messing around with how to make interesting backgrounds, and doing underpaintings in acrylics

>>2412746
considering how soft the lighting is in the rest of the image, I wouldn't have gone so heavy around the legs.

File: hyuig.jpg (52KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 1600x1200px

Study from ref

File: tumblr_m7bhbhyZ0L1qbr8n1o1_1280.jpg (55KB, 800x1200px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 800x1200px

>>2412802
reference

File: LotC 1 -a.jpg (539KB, 851x1302px) Image search: [Google]

539KB, 851x1302px

Can someone tell me if there's something wrong with this lady's face? I think she looks too cartooney but I'm not sure, been staring at it for too long

>>2411770
I like the slow build up to the insult. Well crafted

File: wea.jpg (182KB, 1489x2048px)

182KB, 1489x2048px

i dont know how to feel about this.

>>2412271
Every time there's a new "is this artist good or crap" posts I cringe. The replies are all people looking for excuses not to bother to improve because the artists better than them all 'cheated' to get there. Fucking pathetic.

File: 167f739a43cddbb1ba07ed8f4261ed03.jpg (35KB, 476x560px)

35KB, 476x560px

>>2412831
I think that the center of balance is off, the torso/upper half is too far forward. Also I don't know if this was intentional or not, but her proportions make her look a little midget-y

File: criminal-boy-baseball-bat-funny-child-leather-coat-little-thug-62782669.jpg (100KB, 1300x957px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 1300x957px

>>2412831
I'm not crazy about the way she's holding the bat, it looks awkward.

>>2412839
except you guys have bad taste. usually whenever one of these "good" artists shows up they are lacking in key areas. that's where critiques stem from. people polishing turds that focus on one area rather than all areas at once, and all fall into the "muh style" category

>>2412811
her face is fine. The expression looks more happy / exited though and I'm not sure if that's what you were going for. Her back arm is twisted really awkwardly and almost looks dislocated. The ears on your characters might be a little small, remember that the lobes should start at the bottom of the nose and the tips should be at the eyebrows. Other than that, the colors and lighting, figures and faces are really good. GJ anon.

File: WW Sitting 02.jpg (407KB, 700x1120px)

407KB, 700x1120px

>>2411625
Adjusted a few things and tried to fix the face a bit..face still looks off to me though mostly the lips. I try to get rid of the lines as i paint, but still far from done.

>>2412926
Dude those hands are TINY.

>>2412928
Yea i was thinking about that a bit.. gonna make em a bit bigger before painting.

>>2412900
You're completely full of shit. Being a good artist doesn't mean being perfect, and having flaws doesn't make them not a good artist. The ones we're talking about are obviously skilled, plain to see for anyone with eyes, and the so called critiques given to them are usually nothing more than hairsplitting nitpicks with the incredibly transparent, petty intent to say 'you're not as good as people think you know :p' A good critique suggests areas for improvement that keep to the artist's goal for the picture. A bad critique tries to do the same, but the person lacks the knowledge to be effective. Posts that boil down to "i don't like your style" are just a childish way to throw shade and you're not fooling anyone by calling it a critique.

File: 1453483589683.png (179KB, 441x334px)

179KB, 441x334px

>>2412928
You're tiny

>>2412935
My tiny hands makes my tiny dick look bigger. tyvm.

File: 1453491426279.png (122KB, 277x325px)

122KB, 277x325px

>>2412938
that's pretty hot

File: image.jpg (1MB, 1554x2048px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1554x2048px

Marker pen and ink A3

>>2412933
he needs to learn color and not work black and white in linework. he needs to get away from copying refs and draw from life. he needs to shade and put value on every drawing. this isn't rocket science. the guy that drew DRAVEN HEAD 3 is practicing wrong. it has less to do with critiquing the drawing he posted and more with critiquing the idea that he is doing drawings like that in the first place.

>just outlines no color or value
>anatomy learned from reference photos and done from imagination
>continued absence of life drawing based on what he's been posting and how long he takes on each one
>polishing turds

and then he comes into the thread and says "I don't need defending" assuming everything everyone is saying is an attack and they are just jealous.

>>2412935
That's a mean thing to say.

File: february-23-2016-1.jpg (290KB, 750x723px) Image search: [Google]

290KB, 750x723px

>>2412797
ill keep that in mind

ive decided to just draw catt's naked pictures. she hasn't responded in forever so whatever

File: 1376553347922.jpg (80KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 1920x1080px

>>2412958
I'm sorry :c

>>2412951
You keep trying to make it just about 4xis but it's not, it's about how this exact same cycle keeps happening to tons of different artists who all work in different styles and have different strengths and weaknesses but one thing in common and that is they're obviously good. Maybe not perfect, maybe not even pro, but good. It's painfully obvious by what you keep saying there's no validity to your "critique". You haven't paid attention if you think he never does color or life drawing. And saying he's taking too long on something just because he spaced it out between a number of days is nonsense. Besides, someone, probably you trying to stir the pot, asked where his defenders are and he was clearly replying to that so don't try and pull that bs saying he was being defensive out of nowhere. I'm done arguing with you Brian. You fucking suck, he's better than you, and he will go on to greener pastures than you'll ever see with your head stuck up that camwhore's crusty cumcatcher.

>>2412951
>he needs to learn color and not work black and white in linework
why?
>he needs to shade and put value on every drawing
why?
>practicing wrong
why?

but I guess you're asking because you know what you're talking about and is doing it, thus you're better right ? show us the results please.

>>2412998
>show us the results please
>>2412967
>>2412746
>>2411409
>>2411357
Plus he already does all of those things anyway, this idiot just doesn't recognize his other work when he posts it.

>>2413001
>these posts
you can't be serious right ? this can't be the same guy speaking right ?

>>2413007
It is and I couldn't believe it either.

File: elfegg.jpg (117KB, 1000x1200px)

117KB, 1000x1200px

Any help, pointers, red line, that could help me with this lady elf will be much appreciated.

Thanks guys

File: Butts are hard.jpg (349KB, 3041x3327px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 3041x3327px

Practising skin and light direction. Very scratchy.Any tips for shadows? Or anything else not right?

>>2413011
>>2413007
>>2413001
>>2412998
im guessing you are all the same people with bad enough taste to look up to jim kong ji, craig mullins, ruan GZA, sargent and linedecker? i cant fix you, you'll never be as happy with your artwork as i am with mine unless you practice the right way.

>>2413024
I hope someone screen caps this as a reminder to all never to take you seriously.

File: 08.jpg (100KB, 960x656px)

100KB, 960x656px

Skitch

File: sketch 3.jpg (340KB, 924x1232px) Image search: [Google]

340KB, 924x1232px

>>2413024
ok, I didn't think you would be able to embarass yourself more but you amazingly just did.

If you're happy with your art then good for you, but you being happy with your results doesn't mean everybody else need to be.

>also, pic related is a thousand times closer to kim then your alien drawings.

>>2413001
can you post his other work then? i certainly never recognize it, and its not on his progress posts.

File: february-17-2016.jpg (392KB, 800x537px) Image search: [Google]

392KB, 800x537px

>>2413039
ugh dude you are so bad stop

>>2413039
Just don't even feed into it man, I'm sorry I ever took the bait in the first place. Dude has lost his fucking mind.

File: crab.jpg (415KB, 900x611px) Image search: [Google]

415KB, 900x611px

>wip

File: cascowip.jpg (109KB, 1000x1200px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 1000x1200px

pls help

>>2413093
what's your ref?

File: paintoverr.jpg (145KB, 441x685px) Image search: [Google]

145KB, 441x685px

>>2412926
really awkward pose. why is her right had just floating there?

>>2412153

He is incredibly full of himself and EASILY the biggest faggot ever to post his art on this board. It isn't terrible but the hubris that goes along with everything he posts makes the art even more unappealing. I always refrain from saying anything to not sound too rude but this guy has been a non stop faggot for a year+.

Look at this >>2413042

He even types like a complete asshole. Calling someone bad who is at a much higher skill level than him. If you really think your """style""" is the epitome of art on this board then please kill yourself. No artist should ever resign themselves to being happy where their art is this early, you have so fucking far to go and you think you've already made it

File: a71bc354502f6bd2c8cd8936c654103a.jpg (43KB, 516x720px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 516x720px

>>2413096
I didnt follow the ref much to be honest. I changed many shapes. (a helmet is pretty abstract)

File: paintovvver.jpg (183KB, 799x835px) Image search: [Google]

183KB, 799x835px

>>2413022
really like what you got here. hardened up some of the shapes and shortened the arm a bit.

File: sketch2anac.png (584KB, 1570x1111px) Image search: [Google]

584KB, 1570x1111px

>>2412458
Shoulders looks too tiny, nose could afford to be more upturned.

Besides that I like it

>>2411004
Perhaps scale it back? You could use the guy on the bg in another piece, also don't be discouraged by these guys I have noticed that for some reason they think that you can only work one piece at a time.

As for pic related, I think I'm done with it, the thing I like the most of this process is how easy is too change the color scheme (Duplicate the base color layer and just use the bucket tool and/or ctrl+u)

>>2413039
this looks boring and labored as fuck. i get sleepy just looking at it. This is the very definition of a tryhard. And if it wasn't cringy enough, those creepy smiles complete it.

desu i like Brian or whoever you're fighting with much better. He puts out x10 times more artwork than you. His subject matter is also more mature than yours, which looks like what a highschooler would draw.

>>2413102
>He even types like a complete asshole
pretty sure some troll who doesn't like him is trying to impersonate him.
i don't really care though, just had to point out your ignorance.

>>2413081
Holy fucking skills. Is art your day job?

>>2413133

The fact that its impossible to tell the difference between him and a troll should tell you all you need to know

File: newrough.jpg (108KB, 1200x1200px)

108KB, 1200x1200px

I guess i'll partake because my thread got shot the fuck down. To be expected my first time posting here.

Sketched this up, spent like 15 minutes on it. Should clean it up and try to paint it or nah? Also tried to be a little more exaggerated/cartoony than normal. Not sure if it's workin'.

>>2410830
>value pattern is nice, watch the arm anatomy and lighting on the belly

Thanks for c&c!, i'll try to take some looks of some bellys in smilar lighting situation

>>2412194
Thanks bruv, saved image btw

>>2413125
Thank you. Do you think the waist is too small still? Butt looks much better, any tips for smoothing it out?

>>2412811
If you pay some atention you'll see her left hand is inverted, that shading looks really amazing btw, you're skilled sir ^^

>>2413099
Thats nice kyle, you're a really nice person(from someone you helped before)

>>2413135
No. I have two other day jobs, but my degree is in illustration.

File: 4chpo1.gif (109KB, 429x635px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 429x635px

>>2413099
hands looked like they were clipping into the knees

>>2413172
Looks much more natural with the shoulders pushed forward like that.

>>2412802
>>2412803
when you're painting, you should paint with some kind of neutral colour or tone in the background as opposed to pure white because it can affect which colours you pick! especially if the ref already has a BG. have you seen those optical illusions where they put a small red square in a larger green square and vice versa? it's sort of like that-- having you background as white can skew how you view your colours.

>>2413128
his style is definitely more mature, in that it looks like it was done by a middle aged housewife whose favourite artist is van gogh.

>>2413127
hey man, i think your comment when you first posted this was that you were trying to speed up your workflow and get things done faster. you were taking an online course on it, or something? i definitely think you're headed in the right direction, but i honestly cannot tell see any significant differences from when you first posted it (a week ago?) to now. if you really want to increase the rate that you create stuff, i think you need to figure out when a piece is done enough so you can move on to something else.

File: february-23-2016-2.jpg (349KB, 685x900px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 685x900px

>>2413206
drawing a page of hands everyday is about as glamorous as it seems. but it makes you better. so do you want to be stuck making muh concept art your whole life or do you actually want to make a career out of this.

anyways heres my hands from today

File: Portfolio24.jpg (77KB, 612x612px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 612x612px

>>2413224
Pretty awesome. I need to start doing that. Drawing hands is so tedious though.

>>2413233
>encouraging this asshole
I hope that's a self portrait.

>>2411660
>>2410820
>>2413127
ONE FOOT IN ONE FOR OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2413233
its incredibly tedious. but getting better isn't all fun all the time. i'd recommend doing a page everyday, and then in your off time doing your personal work. once you get in the habit of it it'll be easier.

>>2413172
Yeah nice got lazy with the hands

>>2413151
Small waist is good makes lit look like a classic pinup. Use a soft brush and color pic I between to smooth it out if you want but I think the blockyness looks better.

File: newrough.jpg (202KB, 1200x1200px)

202KB, 1200x1200px

>>2413146
Still no opinions on this? I had time to do the lineart, step your critique game up senpais.

>>2413244
I don't subscribe to shitty board-regular drama, son. Today's my first time here anyway, so i wouldn't recognize said drama even if i did give any amount of fucks about it. I'm here to improve, anything beyond that is extra baggage.

File: Pixlr_20160223223437971.jpg (2MB, 2230x1325px)

2MB, 2230x1325px

>>2410830
Here's a better one

>>2413284
I like it. The facial features read pretty well for it being so rough.

File: 20160224 - colour study clouds - brush strokes, painting techniques.jpg (76KB, 1000x626px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1000x626px

Resources/tutorials on brush stroke quality? My painting strokes are horribly ugly.

>>2413249
that was in the reference i'm copying reeee.. sigh whatever

File: Oracle.png (504KB, 1200x1565px) Image search: [Google]

504KB, 1200x1565px

Happy with this one

>>2413387
May I suggest cleaning up the lines? Just that last professional touch

>>2413279
>he even talks like an anime character.
do you also run to school with a piece of toast in your mouth? so mangaaaaaaaaaaa

>>2412318
let people believe whatever the fuck they want to believe and stop wasting your time replying to them

>>2412746
this is dope

>>2412746
wow...she actually posed nude for you?

File: Helmsman.png (233KB, 765x929px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 765x929px

>>2413391
I am. I'm doing a series of 21 drawings for something. Cleaning them each up once I knock the bulk out of the way.

>>2413407
He said in some other post that she stopped responding to him. But she used to be a camwhore before being a vidya streamer so apparently he's drawing from those pics now.

File: lilsketchy.jpg (89KB, 1448x2048px)

89KB, 1448x2048px

Tried to make a lil study

File: patrick stewart wip.jpg (93KB, 1300x880px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 1300x880px

I'm about halfway done with this I feel. After doing Loomis's head construction I wanted to try an actual subject. These are the halftones.

>>2413479
Looking good. He could use a bit more skull on the top left.

File: its like you are not even trying to try to troll.png (401KB, 580x856px) Image search: [Google]

401KB, 580x856px

>>2413479
fuck off.

File: il_570xN.680555703_rrye.jpg (75KB, 570x738px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 570x738px

Any tips that can help me draw the furry hood thing on this pic related? Im using graphite btw.

File: tumblr_o27akeUoyr1uifmjzo1_1280.png (392KB, 1280x1219px)

392KB, 1280x1219px

>>2413224
kek, even though you draw a page of hands everyday, his first hands drawings are still much better than your E.T hands.

>>2413554
yawn

>>2413554
honestly they really dont, what you fail to understand is you are just drawing lines as opposed to form, if you look at the middle right hand it is painfully obvious you lack skill. You're roughly at 60% of his skill.

its true that brian isn't 100% and sometimes his style breaks his hands, but you're confusing drawing by comparing and taking vast amounts of time as opposed to drawings by mass addition.

I can literally redline all of your hand without reference, but i cant do so for brian.

File: 1446168184107.gif (3MB, 500x207px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 500x207px

>>2413576
>>2413582

File: Heads.jpg (157KB, 1000x563px) Image search: [Google]

157KB, 1000x563px

Trying to construct heads from imagination.

>>2413592
its really not. try to challenge my claims or provide your own instead of saying im baiting.

File: 001.jpg (192KB, 958x517px) Image search: [Google]

192KB, 958x517px

Rate

>>2413612
what gave you the confidence to move out of the beg thread?

>>2413623
Nobody rated it

>>2413630
you posted a full hour ago. 4c ic is most active between 3 and 9 EST

Also, symbol drawing.

File: 002.jpg (52KB, 302x324px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 302x324px

>>2413633
I'm used to more active boards, I should've noticed that this board was slow

Also, should I post it in the alternative art thread? I don't think it's symbol drawing, I got a lot of realistic drawings here that are really different from these >>2413612 , but I prefer to draw like that. I never draw lips because I think it gives a better look overall, and also I draw pointy triangle noses because it looks better

It's not that i'm not accepting your advice, I just prefer that stylization. I don't think it would look better if he had a realistic nose and a mouth with lips. It is obvious that I'm a begginer, and when I posted that I wanted shading, or anatomy tips

This is a shitty drawing but I think you can get what I meant

>>2413646
Your "style" just looks like inexperience so i'd lurk the the beg thread some more

File: WW Sitting 03.jpg (76KB, 720x872px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 720x872px

Ok i tried to go over it again and make her arms/hands make more sense. Looked up a few similar face positions for ref. Anything still off before i re ink it?

>>2413692

you need loomis, symbol drawing

File: ss+(2016-02-24+at+06.08.26).jpg (118KB, 654x883px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 654x883px

I know I messed up the top one, but how about the two bottom ones, do they even look like girls?

>>2413692
>>2413701
nah don't worry about loomis. I'd say draw this pose out like 10+ more times but don't labour on it. It looks really unnatural rn , gesture is important. Bodies can still look good and natural when the anatomy isn't perfect but you need that gesture man.

>>2413582
>I can literally redline all of your hand without reference, but i cant do so for brian.

do it.

>>2413692
The balance of the figure is off.
The knees, hands and toes are dividing the balance, yet your upper body is launched forward as if all your balance was on either the knee or the hands alone, or she was being pulled up by the arms; shoulders are probably too high up.

I mean it's probably physically possible to achieve this exact position, but it looks forced and pointless, not something you'd ever want to capture in a still representation

File: igriejf.png (265KB, 900x675px)

265KB, 900x675px

there is a whole lot wrong with the anatomy here and i was hoping i could get some help / advice before i go on

>>2413595
(not a critique but I'm also doing the same thing)
Isn't the neck muscle too pronounced for being a female/teen? At least it seems to me like it'd be a female teen

>>2413826
Both yes and no, for the toned version I simply blocked out the the big planes of muscle and bone, if I went for a more finished look, I would need to smooth it out.
Females can have neck muscles that are clearly shown, but it does look more feminine and elegant the smoother and longer their neck is.

You just have ask yourself if your drawings look too masculine and or not, and then make changes accordingly.

How I make my black and white drawings less dull, I think they look so boring.

>>2413776
let me guess, you like krenz.
>>2413646
i can guaranty youre symbol drawing because you drew the eyes a nose, a smile, but didnt fit the time in to do construction, the rest of the head or the second eye or the neck.

Just trust me. do some form studies and youll see.

>>2413879
Probably the easiest and fastest way to add interest to a black and white drawing is have really high contrast and place the darkest areas around the composition in different sizes, shapes, and angles.

>>2413886
In other words, I should draw backgrounds as well or just learning how to ink to add more black would be enough? Because I'm drawing mostle black and white faces, nothing else.

File: InfluenceMap_small.jpg (1MB, 2636x1988px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2636x1988px

>>2413890
Even when it's just a face or a figure the technique works. It's all about fitting dark spots within the space you're using. It's something I've been wanting to learn to do better too, I made an inspiration map of artists who do it well. You can look up some of these guys and see how they approach it.

>>2413894
Good idea man, I should just search for reference. Thank you! It's a nice sheet you made.

>>2413899
Thanks and you're welcome. Looking up reference can be a pain but sometimes it's just what you need. Even when you know what you're going for, you can get ideas from it you never would've come up with, I'm learning that more and more these days.

File: Artwork-mgsv-big-boss-yoji-shinkawa-dengeki-n555.jpg (86KB, 675x743px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 675x743px

>>2413905
I see. Just looking at this I feel inspired. And I feel like I can come up with something nice. Wish you best of luck, bro. May we become the gods of BW one day!

>>2413919
Hear hear!

>>2413881
Yes, I'v looked at some of krenz tutorials, good stuff.

File: pose_study_09_0216.png (391KB, 1000x742px) Image search: [Google]

391KB, 1000x742px

Loomis arm muscles description was difficult to understand. So I decide to go through Hamptons Figure Drawing (a lot easier). If ic know other easy to understand anatomy books/guidlines, please share.

>>2414094
I think you've pretty much got it, but a couple of your forearm skeletons in the centre right should show the radius crossing over the ulna. The radius always connects to the thumb side of wrist and outside of ellbow, and the brachioradialis 'follows' it.

File: qtπ.jpg (223KB, 680x962px) Image search: [Google]

223KB, 680x962px

>>2409483
any help with texture?
i think his skin looks too soft

File: Screen Shot 2016-02-24 at 4.31.41 PM.png (489KB, 655x848px) Image search: [Google]

489KB, 655x848px

>>2414215
Too many round shapes and soft gradients
I'd go back and harden some things up

File: 10628245_10152695717064190_3018835266853634846_n.jpg (8KB, 202x286px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 202x286px

>>2409483
tfw no responses so i dont know if im decent or if i suck dick

File: trollguy.gif (401KB, 680x680px) Image search: [Google]

401KB, 680x680px

>>2414215
I wouldn't bother with texture brushes and other fancy shit like that. Bad shortcuts. Just use a regular brush and paint in the details you want. As a finishing step you can go over it with a noisy airbrush or something to add elements of imperfection and grit.

>>2412458
this looks very clean and professional, can i have your tumblr? i would love to see more of your work!

>>2414352
>clean and professional
Kek

File: february-24-2016.jpg (782KB, 725x1000px)

782KB, 725x1000px

had another go at a boat painting

>>2414455
Loomis

>>2414471
Looom is
Loooooooom
isloomisloomisloomis

LOOOOOOM

>>2414475
LOOOOOOOMMMMIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>2414471
>>2414475
>>2414491
I wish I was named Loomis so I would feel special everytime someone said Loomis on a thread

File: 4ch.jpg (194KB, 1054x730px)

194KB, 1054x730px

I know i have over rendered hair a bit. What should i change?

>>2413776
Bottom right could be a cute trap

>>2413776
You don't need to press so hard with your pencil, man. Final lines don't need to be darker than gestures/shapes, instead let those supplement the actual drawing and fill the rest in as necessary.

Think of it like a gas pedal of a car if you've ever driven a car.

>>2413039
The watch looks really good

File: rusty_robot.png (217KB, 440x821px) Image search: [Google]

217KB, 440x821px

Both digital lineart and color are a bit new to me. What's good and what's bad?

File: New canvas-1.png (2MB, 1400x2566px)

2MB, 1400x2566px

should I move Darius to the right a little bit ? I think he's maybe blending a bit too much with draven's axe ?

>>2414649
Yeah looks like a bad tangent. Wherever you move him just try to keep both their silhouettes clearly readable.

File: line_weight_tutorial_by_michaelmetcalf-d6cshn3.jpg (193KB, 700x1063px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 700x1063px

>>2414643
Try to use perspective, light, and form to help determine your lineweights to make your drawing more dynamic.

>>2413099
What sort of brushes are you using here if you don't mind me asking?

>>2414199
Ah thanks anon for pointing that out.

File: mountie.jpg (161KB, 1208x929px) Image search: [Google]

161KB, 1208x929px

mountie sketch

File: image.jpg (920KB, 1271x1800px) Image search: [Google]

920KB, 1271x1800px

>>2413467
Update. Not interested in refining this a lot desu

>>2413207
>>2413207
That's the issue I really need the time to make decent or seemingly decent pieces, the course of Schoolism has helped me some but I'm still far from my aim.

File: cattboobs.jpg (287KB, 751x800px)

287KB, 751x800px

did a digital painting

>>2414717
>>2414717
I really dig her face but there are 2 things that bother me: Her hair is not characteristic enough even for a sketch and there is a bit too much soft brush usage overall.

>>2414822
Is it that noticeable that I hate drawing hair?
Also yeah it's my first try using soft brushes because I always use hard ones but I guess I have to mix em up
Thanks anon

>>2414576
Wouldn't that make the lines really hard to see though? Having the pencil so hard pressed does make a mess sometimes, but it seems better then having final lines indiscernible from the guidelines.

>>2414873
Just make a few passes or use a softer lead for your final lines. I almost always draw with a hard lead like 2h or something to sketch in a guide then go over it with a 2b. Pressing hard isn't ideal, you want to stay loose to keep gestures loose and allow yourself room to make changes and corrections.

>>2414572
This could be better painted but it's not bad and I can see you're on the right track, so just keep doing what you're doing. BUT the sense of scale here is waaaaay off. The city is supposed to look grand and epic, yet the horsemen off in the distance look as though they are on the same level as it and are thus either gigantic or the city is puny.

This picture right now is an F because of this issue. You've got to either get rid of the background horses, or make them fuck-off tiny, like small enough that it just looks like a mass of black specks. If I remember I'll do a paintover later today

File: fem.png (97KB, 618x449px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 618x449px

I drew a feminazi/sjw

>>2414310
noisy airbrush like how?

File: 12736192_1077314735624689_222817315_n.jpg (30KB, 320x180px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 320x180px

Rate

>>2414826
No problem, just try consider hair as some kind of ribbons wrapping around the head, it's actually not that hard and PS has plenty of default brushes that are pretty good for this.

File: girl.jpg (573KB, 3720x3848px) Image search: [Google]

573KB, 3720x3848px

It's been a while and since I got verything to work in my laptop...

>>2412307
Heads up /IC/ likes nothing don't feel bad

but do feel bad because you need to work something else into the work they are kind of boring atm

>>2415167
Why even bother sharing something so utterly incomplete?

>>2415283
This isn't about not liking portraits or drawing from photos. I do that all the time myself. The problem is this guy only wants to copy photos instead of learning construction and all the other fundamentals that allows you to draw freely and create new things. If he learned that he'd be even better at portraits because he wouldn't be flattening and distorting things, he'd know how to make it feel 3D. But when people tried to tell him that he said we were just a bunch of haters who don't know what portraiture is. So if he just wants to be good at copying photos he doesn't need any advice he just needs to take his photos and compare his drawing to them until it matches and there's nothing to say beyond that.

>>2414809
nice

>>2412307
>serious realism
my sides

File: Go(at)!.png (68KB, 359x457px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 359x457px

Small WIP, what do you guys think?

File: lineart.png (20KB, 679x508px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 679x508px

How the fuck do you do digital lineart?
I try to make a line with a single move but it looks like a circle. No joking. It only looks a biiiiit acceptable when its horizontal or vertical.

File: Go(at)!2.png (216KB, 560x660px) Image search: [Google]

216KB, 560x660px

>>2415404
First colored version

>>2409561
Osgiliath? Hella nice man.

>>2409921
my side.

File: big eye nose mouth.png (494KB, 378x677px) Image search: [Google]

494KB, 378x677px

just started practicing how to draw last night. not really a face just eyes nose and mouth. i only have a cellphone and a pencil for now. how is it?

File: idk.png (648KB, 495x680px)

648KB, 495x680px

>>2415457
and my first try at a face not sure how to draw a nose.

>>2415404
>>2415443
i like it man

New Thread
>>2415527
>>2415527
>>2415527

>>2410707
the size of his fucking head and hands wtf

>>2415507
nose you say? that's not the issue, the issue is you would rather draw everything but the second eye and you can only draw the right eye. Beginner thread unless youre baiting .

File: dumb.jpg (2MB, 2100x2736px)

2MB, 2100x2736px

Yeah, the subject matter ain't tasteful. But I'm too burnt out on client work to want to do it at 2 am. So here's some ugly little fuck grabbing himself.

>>2410446
It's shit, I like it though. Would hang on my wall.

File: odd.png (532KB, 1080x1080px) Image search: [Google]

532KB, 1080x1080px

I finished this one but I think I jacked up the perspective.

File: 2016-02-27 14.55.53.jpg (2MB, 4128x2322px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4128x2322px

Help I can't into charcoal