PORN THREAD

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Since most of you posting here draw really good, could any of you give me some critique on this so i can improve it please?

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Any suggestions before I start inking?


>>2326031
Not trying to be a dick, but I think you're still at the symbol drawing stage. Drawing from life might help

>>2326062
Trying to be a dick; you're about the same level as him so you shouldn't be telling him anything about symbol (meme) drawing.

Would anyone here consider doing commissions?

>>2326071
no because with my luck I'd get banned right away

>>2326066
how can you think >>2326062
is as bad as>>2326031
kek'd

>>2326062
so how do i stop the symbol drawing thing?

>>2326074
Wait, its against ze rules to do commissions on this site? Fuckin bullshit

>>2326078
Maybe a local drawing class? Might be a good start. Also the sticky has decent resources

>>2326071
$5 paypal and tell me what you want. it'll be in your email by tomorrow morning.

>>2326108
Contact me at [email protected] or kik me at jessicajester500

>>2326084
Not allowed by banks and paypal

>>2326119
If they dont know then they dont know, besides ive ordered and paid for several commissions that way.

>>2325981
facesitting is top tier

>>2326075
It's not as bad, but It's not that much better since he's basically still at the symbol drawing level.

>>2326155
It's a shame the art is not.

>>2326155
lacking flatus and eyes bulging in the 3d effect

>>2326031
>>2326062
I would kinda say the Korra one is better, honestly. At least it's closer to having proper proportions and anatomy, even if the gesture and perspective need work. Korra's leg looks at least a little like it's coming towards the viewer, Velma's leg looks like it's pointing straight down and it's just really fat, and her boobs look pressed out to the sides and that arm... there's no depth achieved anywhere in it. The only thing it's got going for it is nicer line nuances. They are both still about the same level though, but I think they're just on the other side of pure symbol drawing. I have a feeling the Korra one just looks like that mostly because of heavily referencing the characters. Both could be improved with better construction and practicing building figures from gesture.

>>2326062
You obviously have a much better linework, confident strokes, but if you're to talk about study from life, >>2326031 has more convincing anatomy and proportions.

>>2325981
Hai guys. The OP image looks particularly awesome. I'm just a pleb who happens to pass by and I'm wondering if the OP already has a finished product? Or is it still just a sketch or w/e you call it

Thanks

>>2326253
Aw well this is sweet

>>2326253
Nvm I followed the previous thread and found that the artist hasn't finished it yet.

>>2326253
>praising one of the worst illustrations from the previous thread
kek

>>2326062
know that i believe theres no comparison to make because youre clearly the superior pick by a large margin.

>>2326292
it's still pretty much garbage.

>>2326289
/ic/ pls stop
I did say I'm just a pleb who is passing by. I am now waiting if he posts here when he is done.
God I forgot how elitist 4chins generally is, regardless of what board I am on

>>2326374
>God I forgot how elitist 4chins generally is
How? It's omnipresent.

>>2326374
maybe you just act stupid regardless of what board you're on? chew on that for a while

>>2326382
I rarely post, and I still see people generally being a snob when other people genuinely ask for opinions. It's been almost 8 years, still the same shit across all boards. Not that I'm whining; i'm used to it and accept it as what personality the userbase has come to adopt when posting and viewing content in 4chan

>>2326413
Fucking disgusting.

>>2326429
Hah, really? Why?

>>2326413
I dig the colors and head, but the anatomy and perspective looks bad imo.

>>2326432
Could you give an example of the weird perspective? I can't see it.

>>2326413
i think you have no idea how anatomy work

>>2326439
Care to explain further? it doesn't help me when you just say it's bad without explaining what I've done wrong.

>>2326413
Jesus christ. I'm done.

>>2326456
Not enough dick for you? I can make a dick version.

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hurp

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>>2326435
The right upper arm's length and abdomen should be forshortened. Adjust the forearm of the right hand, after you forshorten upper arm and abdomen. Study knees and vaginas; maybe hands too. Idk what you're trying to do with the shoulder girdle and nipples. The plane, the one outlined in red, should give you an idea of perspective.

I tried doing this pose irl, the top left image is the side view of what I saw in the mirror.

>>2326464
its decent, but I feel like the faces could use more expression.

>>2326467
That's awesome thank you! I've been trying to get a good critique all day and this is exactly what I needed. If only I had gotten this help in the previous thread. I'll keep this in mind and begin studying right away.

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>>2326470
eah. when i try something with faces - i fuck them ap =(

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>>2326472
Your problem is that your fundamentals are really bad. You don't need a redline that fixes a single artwork, you need to get better in general. In the previous thread people already mentioned that if I'm not wrong.

Also, Merry Christmas /ic/.

>>2326499
>tfw no Christmas in chink town
Thank you /ic/

>>2326499
>hime cut

muh dick ho ho ho.

>>2326499
Someone showing you what the problem is helps much more than telling you. at least for me.

>>2326517
So you want us to show you how to learn fundamentals? Are you serious?

>>2326517
It doesnt hurt to keep studying. If you think you learned enough, go back and learn it again until youre godlike

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>>2326062
Better?

>>2326499
it seems the eyes are not one eye aprart from eachother but it dosent feel wrong. whats going on ?

>>2326590
she's an ayy lmao reptilian illuminati
it tricks your mind

>>2326590
Sometimes style makes it right, specially the more stylized it is

>>2326413
Anatomy is a bit flawed, but I still like it, nice loli. Perhaps you could also color your lines, black thick lines isn't a good choice for porn.

Please, post more whenever you can.

Why's it that most of you have absolutely no clue as to what you're doing you're all drawing with a lifeless bland, expressionless and dull attitude yet you have material that would help you prevent that in the sticky.

>>2326564
Put more emotion in it make it communicate with the viewer what the fuck is she even doing looking away off at some random corner I swear I see this shit every time and this needs to fucking stop.

>>2326640
>black thick lines isn't a good choice for porn
lurking drawfag who loves porn here
care to demonstrate, this picked my interest
i always go hard on them black nigga lines, i would like to see alternatives

>>2326464
I don't know, maybe it's what you're trying to go for, but I have one fundamental issue with this image: it doesn't look like a picture of two individuals having sex, or rape, or whatever, it just looks like a frame from a shitty cosplay porn movie.

There's nothing I hate more than generic porn positions, and the expression on the girl getting fucked isn't helping any.

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>>2326658
The idea is to soften the figure a little bit, especially the inner lines, while outlines can still be black or any darker color.

When everything is drawn in black, thick lines, it feels more 2d and flat.

Pic related, check how the girl has darker lines only in her outlines.

>>2326690
oh i see
i dont really do many full color pics online so that might be why i stick to lots of black lines
most full pics i do are for myself and i never show them to anyone because i like keeping my personal work secret which might be bad feedback-wise but i'm really protective of it, so thanks for the tip

>>2326467

Giant dildo in ass does make a lump like that on the abdomen. Not as sharp, but definetly a good portrusion. I know that... because reasons.

>>2326712
>not as sharp
You still have much to learn.

>>2326724

Oh i mean the bump is quite big, but more tent like, and not dildo shaped.

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>>2326012
heres colored version

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On the far left is my work, i only did the transition to the right.

>>2326779
Looks good to me

>>2326647
>Why's it that most of you have absolutely no clue as to what you're doing you're all drawing with a lifeless bland, expressionless and dull attitude yet you have material that would help you prevent that in the sticky.

Finally someone that knows what they're talking about. I applaud you anon.

>>2326779
So all the critique you received in the previous thread just went through you and even though basically everyone agreed that you should start from scratch, you just went and polished the turd, ha?
You really don't deserve any o our time.

>>2326779
that is not what a vulva looks like nor where it is supposed to be located on the body

>>2326789
How about you actually learn to draw?

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>>2326790
thanks
>>2326808
I already somewhat started coloring it when I post the lines on other thread so I kept it. I did however tried using basic perspective and it didn't look too different to me except slightly better but more stiff, also neck does look right but I looked it enough that I can't make any good points or distinguish if it's not complete shit.
Like other guy said I'm not good enough to construct from memory so I should use more references before attempting poses like this.
>>2326815
Should it be lower? or even should it be visible?

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Quick sketch I made to piss off a steven universe fandom group, will it work?

>>2326995
seems like you just drew a normal picture and then added le edgy ironic satan star and le edgy picture title
youre not pissing off anybody besides the people who get pissed off at everything anyway, sorry.

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ho ho ho

>>2327005
you are living under a rock my friend

>>2327005
FUCK

i failed my mission

you know steven fandom gets mad when you draw a fat character with a nice body right?

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Question about invoices:
Is there a way to send out a paypal invoice and remain anonymous? Want to start doing porn comissions but don't want it connected to my regular illustration that I do under my real name.

>>2326995

if colored don't forget to change the skin color as well, they fucking hate that too.

>>2327025
Nice tip bro

>>2327009
ho ho horrifying

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>>2326995
>>2327005
>>2327011
>>2327013
HERE is how you piss off the SU fandom.

Not by me, but maybe you can take some inspiration from this pic.

Now get those fans for nearly making that person kill herself.

>>2327024
You can create a business account and index it to your regular account. Business accounts let you use only the name of your "business" (a.k.a. your porn name) without showing anything else regarding your personal information including your actual name.

>>2327038
Got banned from the group just as I posted it.

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>>2327024
>mfw that tit monster gets BLACKED near the end of that manga

>>2327056
You don't need a business account to do this. As long as you're using invoices you're good with using your personal account. You can edit the information seen on the invoice. You can even make multiple templates for invoices. The idea though is to not make it obvious you're selling porn commissions.

>>2327038
>HERE is how you piss off the SU fandom.
you can piss them of by claiming that you're straight

>>2326524
No, it's just nice for people better than you to show you why you need them and what you are weak at. It's much better than someone say "your shit, git gud". This gives me a game plan and motivation. You don't have to be a dick.

>>2326525
Yes sir or mam.

>>2327009
its cthulhu! merry chistmass.

>>2327103
Stop thinking people who say you have no fundamentals and you should start learning them BY YOURSELF are dicks. The real dicks are the people who spoon feed you and the idiots that actually say your stuff looks good to them. You will never improve by listening to praise, you moron.

>>2327162
People don't improve without direction and discipline.
Telling people to read loomis is shit.
Telling people all they do is great is shit.
You are shit.
Your opinion is shit.
Your art is shit.
You'll never make it.

>>2327103
You really should get a friend to study along or reach out for an artist you admire and ask them for critique once in a while.
Level Up should serve you better than this shithole. I only come here to shitpost on losers and check the resources threads once a while.

>>2327167
This guys understands

>>2327167
>People don't improve without direction and discipline.
Of course not, that's why you have Loomis and other books.
>Telling people to read loomis is shit.
Yeah, if you are an idiot who can't learn by themselves.
>Telling people all they do is great is shit.
True
>You are shit.
>Your opinion is shit.
>Your art is shit.
>You'll never make it.
>You really should get a friend to study along or reach out for an artist you admire and ask them for critique once in a while.
>Level Up should serve you better than this shithole. I only come here to shitpost on losers and check the resources threads once a while.
If you can't filter out good posts from bad posts, you better go away, yeah. But in that case you are probably either an idiot or a total beginner, thus you should be learning fundamentals elsewhere instead of posting garbage here.

Yeah, yeah, I know. /ic/ is cancer, /ic/ is shit, yada yada. If you have a brain and you know how to use it, you can get something out of /ic/. If not you can go elsewhere to get some hugs.

>>2327009
he got the tip of the cockpit

Is there a guide somewhere for starting a (porn) art blog that's not connected to your person? Like, anonymous paypal for commissions, etc.

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>>2327167
>Telling people to read loomis is shit.
>Telling people all they do is great is shit.
>You are shit.
>Your opinion is shit.
>Your art is shit.
>You'll never make it.

>People don't improve without direction and discipline.

I got this treatment just like any other Anon and I turned out just fine and learned some fundamentals by myself. If words alone break you to the point it makes you quit I say this with all sincerity, maybe drawing wasn't for you.

>>2327024
>>2327209
Fucking pussies. If you are uncomfortable with porn to the extent of being afraid people might find out you do it, then don't do porn. Man up and stop being greedy human garbage.

>>2327209
Anonymous paypals are not that hard, the only thing people see is your email everything is concealed. So if you have a separate account or card just make a new one @ [email protected] or some dumb shit

>>2327221
what does your work look like though?

>>2327226
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure it's better than the shit any hugbox seeker will ever be able to produce.
His attitude tells me everything I need to know.

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>>2327226
Bottom right was from imagination while most are referenced from random poses off /s/

>>2327222
Nah I just don't like having a lot of info about me online in any way.
>>2327225
Thank you!!

>>2327237
Jeez... I feel like I'm slacking but the sad thing is that I'm trying.

Please keep at it mikufag

>>2327246
WAIT THIS IS MIKUFAG??
Background: I literally have not been to this board in about 3-4 years and they're STILL here? That's fucking dedication bro, shit... Lots of improvement though damn

>>2327237
Man you really don't want to leave that comfort zone of yours, do you?
All I see from you are just these ballet poses of this sameface character of yours done over and over and over again.
Just an example. Trying to learn how to draw hands once in a while is out of the question I suppose. It's no wonder you are stuck at this level even after years of trying to get good.

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>>2327252
that is mikufag. Hes been there for 3 years? Sad.
this picture is all you missed.

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>>2327237
dear mikufag
I hope you remember me, it has been years, I did some really shitty drawings for you to help you out with expressions and stuff one time.
I drew this Luka because you like Miku a lot
(CC is welcome, I just might not see it because I want to sleep)
just want to let you know that you are doing good keep it up

>>2327288
btw someone tell me how to fix the arm/shoulder area, I can't find any good references because I suck ugh

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>>2327288

>>2327296
Yup that was me!

>>2326439
>>2327296
>>2326062
I can never get line this fucking clean, especially that thin. What are your canvas settings and brush size when you guys make these? Are you zoomed in or out when you ink?

>>2327308
pen pressure...

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I dont do much hentai, dont care much about it.(but I like it)

>>2327310
Well of course pen pressure plays a part.
I'll post it in a few hours. Its 1:30 here and I'm going to sleep.

>>2327322
theres nothing els to it.

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panel for a short comic.
comments/crits welcome

>>2327308
It's not the software, it's just a matter of skill. Sorry dude.

>>2327337
Pretty much sucks through and through. I suggest you learn how to draw a little better (construction - anatomy and perspective). Then learn some composition and action poses (gesture). Then (in a few years probably), you'll be ready to draw something decent. You are welcome.

>>2327374
can you be specific? redline?

>>2327384
I can't redline you through the process of learning how to draw.
Listen buddy. Drawing is hard, to draw appealing porn you have to be good at drawing. Drawing good is even harder. Read the board sticky and go to the beginners thread, but most of all start learning how to draw properly.

>>2327374
What a "nothing" answer, kouhai

>>2327222
It's not ideal to have it link back to you when you have another business under your actual name.

>>2327400
Best answer they could get. If you aren't a blind idiot that thinks his current level is good enough to produce porn or comics of it (even harder), you will understand that is the only truth they should hear.

>>2327408
Baseline, we all need to get better at drawing. That's why we're all in this thread, right? By posting anything in this thread we are admitting "hey, this image has flaws and I need help working them out"
By just giving a blanket response of "hey work on this and that," you are telling him stuff he already knows and is aware of by virtue of being in this thread in the first place.
You have to take these things case by case, step by step. Pinpoint where the problem areas are and what they can do to fix it. If someone were fixing up their house, you wouldn't say "wow this house is fucked, work on your carpentry," you would say something like "hey if you're going to add this, you need a support beam here" etc

>>2326499
you suck

>>2327416
The example you used is fucking spot on, even if you didn't want to use it for this. Just as someone who doesn't know how to build a house, shouldn't build a fucking house, a total beginner at drawing shouldn't draw fucking porn, which is one of the hardest things to do. Just the fact that this is a god damn porn thread should tell everyone who post their art here, that the expected standard is higher. Beginners like this guy should stick to the beginners thread.

>>2327418
What did bbc chan do to you for such an amount of butthurt?

>>2327422
Do they allow porn in the Beginners Thread

>>2327422
But surely you can tell him why and where his house sucks and what smaller carpentry projects he could do to work on those skills?

>>2327425
Doesn't matter since he should be drawing simple shapes, not fucking porn.

>>2327426
I think it would be a problem to point that stuff out looking at the ruins of his former house. Please, at least try to understand what I'm saying.

>>2327444
"Your house fell down, shit, git gud fucker"
vs.
"Your house wouldn't have fallen down if you hadn't have [blah blah blah]"

>>2327446
>"Your house fell down, shit, git gud fucker"
>vs.
>"Your house wouldn't have fallen down if you'd gitten gud"
ftfy

Now please stop being too stupid to understand this really really easy concept.

>>2327453
The difference is that your method lacks any real substance at all (to go back to the original post, a "nothing" answer, if you will).

>>2327455
The difference between your approach and mine is that I know he's too much of a beginner to take advantage of any in depth advice about this one single illustration to translate it then to his other art. He has to learn his fucking fundamentals, and believe me, he won't achieve this in this thread.
Please, stop being so fucking obtuse.

>>2327459
Just sounds like you don't really want to help anyone, kouhai

>>2327459
>>2327461
Different methods work for different people, cool.

>>2327463
All I'm saying is that dude wouldn't make a good teacher at all.

>>2327461
>assuming
>>2327466
>being this dumb
I give up. Be my guest and help him polish turds.

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How are the feet?

Btw ignore the background, I was too lazy to draw the couch.

>>2327389
>I can't redline you through the process of learning how to draw.
>I can't actually draw better than you, im just shit posting

>>2327337
I like this kind of stroke and her face.

The only problem is that it seems that her torso (and part of the left arm) was cut-down.

>>2327547
Learn about drawing 3D forms, there is absolutely no point in talking about anatomy right now. You just drawing outlines. Like feet don't make logical connection with legs. Feet looks flat as paper, with random lines that are supposed to imitate skin wrinkles, but you drew them because you know there should be some kind of wrinkles, but they are result of how forms connect to each other.

>>2327553
how can you tell with such heavy foreshortening on both?

>>2327553
oh wait... are we talking about forground chick, or background chick?

>>2327550
Nice try, dumbass.

>>2327550
I can draw better than that and I could redline it. But the guy is right, no matter his asshole attitude.

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>>2327557
3D something like this (just to have an idea)? Is it possible doing it with a pen or maybe is it better using graphite?

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right or left

which is better?

>>2327629
Right one is better. They're both shit though.

>>2327317
Not bad, are you going to color it?

>>2327618
When he said "3d forms" he meant in the construction of the body itself, not the shading. While shading is important in showing proper form, it just isn't at this juncture when your figures are lacking proper construction.

>>2327009
Do you come up with these ideas or do people ask you to do them?

>>2327636
I dont think ill color it, have lot of stuff to study and it needs some anatomy fix also x..x

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is this anatomically too bad? it's supposed to be a similar pose to this
>>2327547

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>>2326467

>>2327693
what on earth

>>2327693
I'm not falling for that trap again.

>>2327630
Being vague: your comment is vague.

>>2327629
Specifically: Can someone help me out? I've regressed in my art. I've stopped drawing for about a month. I don't even know what I've forgotten, so how do I regain the skill I lost? Just draw more?

left is new the right is old

>>2326690
who drew this?

>>2327752
>Being vague: your comment is vague.
Cry me a river, scrub.
>Just draw more?
Yes. Now get out of here and study some fundamentals. You are welcome for the vague comment.

>>2327793
I'll take "Reverse Image Search" for 500 Alex

>>2327793
As109, search for it and be happy.

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need some crit

>>2327274
please dont tell me mikufag drew the original to this garbage.

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>>2327826

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>>2327831

>>2327837
>kill me

>>2327813
looks like she has rabies

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>>2327837

>>2327813
>pillows

you know you are shit when you need to write out what you are trying to draw

>>2327813
Go back to your sheeps u fagit

>>2327752
>I haven't drawn in a month
>do I draw more to get back into the groove?

Yes
You aren't going to get better at drawing by not drawing. Get all these bad drawings out of your system with your studies.

>>2327804
This guy is based, thanks.

>>2327798
i tried and no artist name came up but thanks family :^)

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>>2327848
sheep?

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>>2327865
>i tried and no artist name came up but thanks family :^)

>>2326467
>no redline for koala face

>>2326467
good on ya m8

>>2326995
you already know it will. make it more porn-star-y and give her a more 'sexist' pose and you'll be golden.

>>2327846
Or maybe he labeled it so other people know what it is. People such as us.

>>2328092
Not worth the "muh style," dialogue

>>2327222
Spoken like a true neet who's never held down a job in his life.

>>2328535
Or as someone who is not morally ambiguous. What's up Jew? Did you recognize yourself in his words?

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>>2326640
Thank you. I usually do fat assed imps but a loli is fine too.

>>2326690
I'll get there one day.

>>2327167
You're a cool dude.

>>2328877
I see you like hugboxes. I think this is not the right place for you kid.

>>2328887
I'm sure i'll be fine. I'll take any valid criticism that isn't "You suck do gooder".

>>2328890
>I'll take any valid criticism that isn't "You suck do gooder".

You're tasting your time here then. Most of the people here can't draw or give solid advice for shit because they're too busy shitposting and/or sucking off the mediocre artists that do post here instead of grinding to get better themselves.

>>2328910
>wasting

>>2328910
I post in multiple places. I like /ic/. I have improved a ton because of this place in just the last half year alone.

>>2328910
Oh, and I can post loli here.

>>2328914
>>2328916
Mikufag detected.

>>2328910
time taste good, yes

>>2328920
What?

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Done with lines. Critique?

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>>2328936
the tentacles lack form. You don't really get the "meatiness" of them.

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>>2327680
keep practicing from life nice linework tho

remember- As a general rule the vagina is literally right next to the asshole. its close enough you can stick your dick in one, put your fingers in the other, and feel your dick on the other side.

>>2328936
Learn.To.Draw.Hands.

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>>2327373
>>2327336
How do I learn line control then?

>>2329017
Start conciously trying to make longer strokes rather than "petting" to make lines

>>2329017
Prectice.

>>2327237

This really depresses me because at first glance I wanted to say mikufag was getting better but there's still a lot of glaring problems and habits that are only masked by the fact that they used a reference.

I think the faces and the chest are nicer to look at than previous attempts, though.

>>2327373
it´s the software

Manga Studio, Photoshop with lazynezumibokudesu will give enough control of the lines so you can do them as thin and defined as you want.

>>2329279
I was talking about people that don't use this kind of stuff. People with enough skill can easily create this kind of accurate lineart without any software help.

>>2329297

>>2329017

even though, I really like his like expression here, it´s sketchy but it has some charm.

>>2329312
Gesture is what you want to train, to git gud at this.
The more gesture training you do, the more your lineart will be confident and the more life your poses and expressions will have.
But to be able to do good gesture you have to internalize anatomy and perspective. You can achieve this by learning construction through studies, first from references and later on from memory.
All these fundamentals are essential to good character illustration, which is the mother of porn art.

And this is what 99% of people in these threads don't understand. Instead they rather learn how to render/color first, so that they can polish turds instead of trying to give life and appeal to their art.

>>2329339
yeah, I noticed that lately.

not talking about lineart, but gesture in general, I noticed after too much Loomis (tm) and training nothing but anatomy and muscle placement that my art became stiff because of a complete lack of training in gesture, so I am starting to go after this now, first by reading Vilppu and doing some quick gesture drawings, it´s like starting all over again.

I should ask, what are the best resources about gesture we have?

So I'm that guy who was complaining about my shit lines and posted that taxreturns pic.
I use mangastudiio, SAI and PS. When I draw lines everything is wobbly and disgusting so a resort to chicken scratch. It just gets annoying that one perfect line can't be the way I want it to be. And my shit lines make inking things have bad line weight like early episodes on Ed Edd n' Eddy.

>>2329350
I know some people hate it around here, but your lines are sketchy even with software stabilization? you can delay the lineart almost as much as you want, or are you trying to draw with no stabilization on to practice? when I need to do serious inking I use as much as 60 as a value for stabilization in manga studio.

vectors, like the ones in MS help an awful lot to get that "clean" digital look to your lines too.

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>>2329358
No, they look like this. You see what I mean that the line weight is everywhere? I think you guys are right, like it's just me. But if it is then what do I do to make this more appealing with line weight? Is there anything I can practice to gitgud or is just keep doing it until results? I'm learning figure drawing too. I have been for atleast 6 months. I've been drawing for as long as I can remember but I have started seriously drawing until 8 months ago.

>>2329372
I think you´re pretty ok for 8 months.

you are on the right track, you will need some time to adjust and discover your workflow, just keep doing what you are doing as everyday you end up learning something new.

if I can give you a tip it´s this one, draw lineart on a multiply layer, draw with black, erase with white, this way you will have an eraser that is consistent with the lines you are drawing.

also, cute art, show me you gallery please.

>>2329382
>draw lineart on a multiply layer, draw with black, erase with white, this way you will have an eraser that is consistent with the lines you are drawing.
Both SAI and Manga Studio/Clip Paint allow you to turn your brush transparent, so you can erase with your brush

>>2329358
>serious inking
>60 as a value for stabilization
Pick one.

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>>2329358
>stablization all the way to 60

What the fuck? People do this? The highest value I use for stablization while inking is 5. I don't use stablization at all for sketches.

>>2329017
I want to see more of this porn, link?

>>2327550
Supposedly the greatest thing about /ic/ over all other art forums is that here you can get an unapologetic, honest critique.
But whenever one is actually given, the butthurt starts flaring up like this was a gay brothel. You can't have it both ways, either leave your pride at the door and get your dose or stop coming here just to defend work you already know is flawed. I believe in giving people specifics too, but there is a point where the scope of what they need to know is just too huge; it's like a second grader walking into a calculus class asking questions, like that gap could be bridged in a few minutes. The only solution is they just need to work their way up through the other classes like everyone else, no way around it, and telling them so is really just doing them a favor.

>>2328936
You didn't use any of the critique you were given before though..

>>2328936
I feel like you need to work on line weight. Nothing really draws my eyes to it or really pops out. Tentacles could use some work? They look more like lumps of silly putty.

>>2329681
>unapologetic, honest critique
bullshit.
you confuse it with undproductive rudeness, 99% of replies on /ic/ is: it is shit, anatomy is shit

>>2329692
Did I say I support comments like that? I'm pretty sure I said
>>2329681
>I believe in giving people specifics too
I've called people out plenty of times for just saying "it's shit" because yeah that is bullshit. But if someone says "you can't do this because you don't understand __ well enough, go study that", and they want to you to still hand hold them through the picture, that's when I say they need to take it or leave it.

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>>2328936
Quick redline, you can ignore it of course but I really think you tentacles need more "weight" and "form".

Spent the whole day at work. Sorry.
I'm just gonna go back to doing studies for a while.
>>2329687
But I did. I tried to correct errors other anons pointed out.
>>2329701
>>2329691
Mark line work has always been an issue for me. I'll keep working at it. And thank you for the red line.

>>2328936
Fix the shoulder girdle, arms, and hands

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Is this garbage even salvageable? I feel like I've fucked the perspective beyond repair.

>>2329841
Yeah man. Perspectives off, anatomies off, lines need work. I'd go back to basics for a couple weeks and try again.

>>2329339
>>2329681
These people understand what they are talking about. Props.

>>2329909
pls dont fluffpost

>>2329924
they're probably talking about you, ha? don't be butthurt, instead go git gud.

>>2329930
pls dont shitpost

>>2329930
come on the shitposting was bearable until you showed

Where the fuck did the sticky come from? The principles there are not bad, but they are not the principles of art

>>2329942
>come on the shitposting was bearable until you showed
I showed here >>2329909
Then this guy got butthurt >>2329924
Get your facts straight, or just stop being such enormous pussies, for fuck's sake.

>>2329841
Ianctee?

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Trying to do something based off Dragon Quest Heroes. I'm not sure about whether I should go the slime or tentacle monster route yet. Any critiques would help.

>>2329841
I'm not a typical crit. guy, but from what I see:

-That perspective could probably use a bit more z-axis spacing and less x-axis spacing (for the top half of the body).
-Show slightly more torso. It looks like her the top and bottom halves are there, but the connection between the two is either not there or really small, as if it’s a super-stylized drawing I don’t know.
-Go for some harder lines overall?

This is just my “subjective” opinion on the problems. Not sure if it’ll make things look better generally, if you addressed my issues, but it’s what I‘d consider changing at least. Despite all that, it’s not bad, but also not great. Keep up the good work though.

>>2330005
>those arms

jesus man

>>2330005
Stop copying anime symbols (the face) and learn some proper anatomy and perspective (the rest of your illustration).

>>2330005
You've copied too many symbols in this.
Not only does the pose look awkward as fuck, the body looks like a deflated balloon.

Especially the arms. Fix the arms, holy shit.
It looks like you referenced popeye the sailor mans arms, deflated their volume, and then left his original hands on them.

>>2330005
>>2330007
>>2330030
it's stylized, there is form and it pretty dynamic.
the hands are too big, it's common for kids but not that big. There is form but it's not easy to tell, add some form other than just the outline

Stop acting like you know art when you don't, it pisses off people that know stuff.

Symbols make sense because most faces are just symbols, eyes are usually round so of course you are gonna draw round shapes. And I want you to find one real life person with eyes that don't match a symbol or you should shut the fuck up about it, dumbasses

>>2330102
>it's common for kids

Hold the phone--never mind his bad drawing we got more problems that OP is drawing naked children.

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I was going to render this but it did not turn out how I imagined.

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this is my first time drawing a blowjob

how exciting.

>>2330102
>Stop acting like you know art when you don't, it pisses off people that know stuff.
Hahaha. Dat fucking irony, ha?
The face is not constructed properly and it's just a collage of symbols copied from DQ/Toriyama. The body is just proof of that, since it is totally flat and again a collage of different body parts that don't have a common perspective (just as the face symbols).
So yeah, dude, stop acting like you know art when you don't, it pisses ME off. My sides are literally cracking up atm.

>>2330112
How about you first learn what it means to draw appealing stuff, and then try porn?

>>2330115
hey
>>2330005
>>2329841
>>2328936
>>2328877
>>2327879
>>2327618
>>2327337
>>2327288
>>2326031
lump these into the unappealing folder as well

>>2330112
>>2330115
It's the face isn't that bad, I'd crop her knockers in but I'm no critic, I really don't know shit.

>>2330115
rude. What's wrong with this in particular?

>>2330118
>knockers

There's none?

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Ready to get my butt fucked again. Just wanted to get some feedback before I go any further.

>>2330122
Why do you need feedback for something take probably took you less than 5 minutes to doodle? It's uninteresting by the way.

>>2330121
None that I can see. I guess her arm would be in the way anyway though.

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>>2330127
she's flat as a board

>>2330129
oh, my bad.

>>2330119
Not him but...Regardless of style the face looks off. The nose is bad. the ear is bad. the eyes are bad. Learn to draw skulls instead of using anime as a reference. Look at an actual picture of a blowjob and notice how the lips do not look that way.
Keep it up though. I love heart eyes.

>>2330115
Drawing porn gives me a lot of motivation to keep improving so while I understand what you are saying I'd have to say if you like drawing porn then draw porn as long as you get better each time.

>>2330125
Because I want to make sure I've got the perspective an anatomy at least passable before I continue. My life is uninteresting. This is reflection of that.

>>2330117
I already have.

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>>2330117
>Didn't judge mine as unappealing
Uguu~

>>2330140
cont.
All except this one >>2327288
Even though there are some anatomy issues, the lineart and good stylization make up for it.

>>2330142
Which one is yours?

>>2330147
My bet is that it is probably this insufferable faggot here.
>>2327237

>>2330142
You're already dying of cantgetgud cancer so that's why I didn't bother.

>>2330109
This is actually pretty solid, anon. Good shit. You should look into getting the animator's survival kit too and read up on the principles of animation. It'll improve your work.

>>2330178
I have that book buried somewhere in my house, I'll give it a read, never thought it would be good for porn though.

>>2330182
It's about theory. The principles of animation apply to everything. It doesn't matter what the subject matter is.

>>2330193
This
Reading about animation will help put more life into your drawings
And also, you know, make that animation look better

>>2330150
It is not. That faggot draws better than I do though lol.

>>2330112
Weird proportions. Look at the size of the hand on her head compared to the size of her face.
Also, put a cucumber in your mouth. I doubt you'd really have any extra mouth on the sides that you could scrunch up into that weird looking line. Just keep doing your thing, it'll get better.

>>2330193
>>2330197
Noted, time to go digging through the garage.

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crap of the day, now that I'm done with this I'm going to study the fuck out of shoulders/arms
I really need it
Critique would be nice but it's not anything that I put significant time or effort into so keep that in mind lol.

>>2330260
I like her face.

>>2330260
Her hands seem a bit small

>>2330260
Her left nip placement seems a bit off

>>2327317
dam anon what brush is that?

>>2330276
>>2330483
>>2330584
Please, stop posting, you fucking clueless suckers.

>>2330654
Thanks, now we know her face is ugly and her hands and nipples are ok, right?

>>2330659
No, that illustration is fucked up through and through, and idiots like them (or you it seems) fixate on stuff like that. Just stop fucking posting.

>>2330709
The only ones who need to stop posting are the good for nothing faggots who contribute nothing to this thread aka shits like you. Say something worth a damn or shut up and draw you faggot. You're a part of the reason why this thread is cancer.

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>>2330615
http://digitalbrushes.tumblr.com/post/76211810852/ruan-jia-photoshop-brushes-download-here

In this pack you'll find a square brush, its not really the brush, but it got some sharpness too

>>2330115
What does it mean to draw appealing porn?

>>2330709

Oh, so you're just another useless angry cunt with nothing of value to offer.
Get a tripcode so we can all ignore your worthless posts.

>>2330729
I guess it depends on what niche you want to appeal.

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I got another one for you guys, thoughts? This one was mainly for color study but by all means give me crits on anything you see out of place.

>>2330787
>...and then she farts!

>>2330754
I mean in general. Are certain perspectives/compositions/lighting objectively better than others or was that anon just saying "gut gud"?

>>2330787
Maybe make her shoulder blade more defined. It kind of just melts in to her neck

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>>2326464
whel, i finish this. But i have no fucking idea how to make this not shity-gray... thing.

>>2330851
I love the way you render but the other anons are right...the expressions (or lack thereof) suck all the life and feeling out of what could be something great. It's like you're afraid to draw expressive characters because you want to make sure they're attractive.

Keep in mind that the face can make or break porn because it tells us, the viewer, how the sex feels.

A nonchalant face might suit the demoness in this situation, but her smug smile would make more sense if the human girl was actually giving her a reaction. And where is the girl even looking with that empty braindead stare?

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>>2330924
whel, i thot that she's looking to demoness, but she is not in clear state om minde..
And yes, I agree that there's need moge expression to her face, but i try that in scetches and on tham the face was total fuckup, so i tace the best of what i get at that moment =(

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>>2330851
It's good but it doesn't look like they're interacting. Not a great paintover, but you get the idea.

>>2330851
>>2330946
you all have watched too much porn.

you think anyone would look that calm while being fucked with a dick (demon dick no less) that big?

She should have pain in her body, tightness in the shoulders, hips and face. Her eyes should show lust and fear and anticipation. Wrinkles around the eyes and cheeks as she simultaneously shrinks from the pain and wells toward the source of her pleasure.

think about what's happening yall

>>2330949
>you all have watched too much porn.
1. It's a porn picture
2. Maybe she's a sex slave to the demoness who has been conditioned over time to take her giant cock
3. Unless you're actually from the south it comes across as snarky and passive agressive to end what you're saying with y'all

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is the booty wu wuu wuuu?

>>2330956
With thighs that thick, she wouldn't have a thigh gap
Most women don't have a thigh gap, unless they're ms. Skeltal

>>2330946
wow!
that's realy nice, thenx. And that looks better.
>>2330949
she is drawn, she feels no pain, dont need to warry about her =)

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>>2330956
ayy that's a nice butt

i got bored and tried to do the nsfw drawings
thoughts?

>>2330949
I don't necessarily agree she should be in pain but she should have SOME kind of emotion going on. It looks like they are just posed in that position instead of actively fucking.

>>2330787
You must like norasuko.

>>2330964
Budu is that you

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>>2330957
well yeah of course, but she standing with her legs spread slightly tho

>>2330964
danke~

>>2330973
Yes but on your sketch it isn't drawn in a way to indicate that

>>2330122
finish this morbi

>>2330964
define the hair shape a bit more so that it properly echos the head shape. top of the skull is slanted so that it rises as it goes back, doesn't matter how poofy the hair is, make the overall silhouette imply that top of the head rises as it goes back or else the heads will feel too short

also make sure that arm lengths and the such read correctly. proper foreshortening isn't just being technically correct, it has to LOOK correct, which means it reads clearly, something the far arm on the silver haired girl doesn't, this means a lot of weird fiddling with implying form through minimal line work on things such as the elbow fold

on the bj girl, don't forget the shoulder blade and how that informs the area of the body where the arm connects to the chest when viewed from the side (it can also help you put some curve back into that spine, even tho she's leaning forward)

>>2330981
her knees seem to be a decent ways apart

>>2331001
>or else the heads will feel too short
replace short with thin

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>>2330934
whel, i hope this time i dont fuck up emotions and expressions... did I?

>>2330799
That shall always bee the danger of face sitting

>>2330806
Ooo, thats a good point actually. Thank you!

>>2330968
I love Norasuko

>>2330787
>color study

Of what exactly. What was your goal with the coloring? Did you have a point of reference in terms of rendering style? The contrast is pretty boring.

>>2330970
who that
>>2331001
thanks mate!
yeah i really messed up on the silver haired girl

>>2329987
wut

>>2331018
budu-nsfw.tumblr.com

>>2330712
>>2330730
Read what I wrote here >>2329339
And stop fucking posting, you useless, clueless art impaired faggots. STOP FUCKING POSTING if you are unable to spot bad art and incapable of giving relevant advice. You literally make me sick.

>>2330729
Read this post >>2329339

>>2331007
You are really bad at drawing appealing expressions.

>>2331046
>posting basic common knowledge shit
>doesn't source any reading material that would help like >>2330178
>calls that contributing

Take your own advice and draw more autismo. Your contributions are garbage just like you are.
>STOP FUCKING POSTING

Why is everyone always so fucking mad in these threads? Holy shit.

>>2331081
>posting basic common knowledge shit
I am aware that is common knowledge, but somehow all the people I was talking to, which are the idiots that try to give advice about small portions of artworks that are GARBAGE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, drawn by people that obviously don't know shit about that "basic common knowledge", seem to have no clue about "basic common knowledge".
Will you now please start using your brain and understand what I'm saying?
No wait, instead just go kill yourself. K?

>>2331120
Porn is serious business
Gotta cater to the most easily catered to audience somehow

>>2330276
>>2330483
>>2330584
Thanks for your input! Those are all things I know I need work on, haha, but thanks for the reminder :)
>>2330654
>>2330709
>>2331046
>>2331134
>STOP FUCKING POSTING if you are unable to spot bad art and incapable of giving relevant advice. You literally make me sick.

I'm sorry that they made you upset. Perhaps you could offer some insight as to how my drawing is messed up? I would really appreciate that. Also, I hope your stomach (Or whatever part of your body got "literally sick") is alright.

>>2331151
You being so calm and clueless is what makes me realize you are never going to get better. Instead of being mad at me for pointing it out or yourself for being bad, you think you will be able to get through this by being calm, by talking it out. You won't.
Dude, now listen to me, and try to remember what I'm going to say.
At the moment your current level is that of a total beginner. And not just in terms of porn art (which is one of the most hard forms of art - if you really want to be good at it - if you want to be just another shadman crook, then forget all I'm saying), in terms of art in general.
You lack fundamentals and you are never going to learn them the way you are approaching this. Do a step back, stop trying to draw porn, and instead FIRST LEARN TO DRAW.
Start with simple shapes and make them work in an environment (basic studies). You lack this. You lack the comprehension of how to make something that is on a 2d media look like it's 3d. This is the basis of character drawing. If you lack this basic concept, your art will NEVER look good.
And please try not to feel TOO bad, that is what 99% of scrubs that post in this thread lack too. You are just another beginner who is trying to git gud, I know it's hard, but I think you are the one that doesn't realize how fucking hard it really is to be good at this.

tl;dr
stop drawing porn and instead learn how to draw. and no, you are not going to learn that in this thread. how you are going to achieve that is up to you and nobody else.

>>2330102
>>It's stylized
no one said it wasn't
>>there is form
no one said there wasn't
>>pretty dynamic
>>it's not easy to tell
getting mixed messages here, make up your mind

>>Stop acting like you know art when you don't
>>Continues to rant on about shit like they know everything.

Speak for yourself.

Multiple people gave this piece critique.
The critique was valid, and warranted.

It really is this simple, so fuck off and stop trying to generate drama where it isn't needed. Thanks!

>>2331023
I swear to god I've seen those sketch lines, so I was wondering if OP would confirm/deny my suspicions.

I was ignored though, it seems.
Not like it fucking matters.
None of this dumb fucking shit matters.
Just can't grasp why I can't have a little goddamn fun.

Don't get me wrong; I'm salty that I can't poke any of you little bitches for a kick.

>>2330799
When will this shit go away?

>>2327719
What's the trap?

>>2331166
Get over yourself dude, no one method works for everyone. Nobody has the exact same path.
In 2011, I used to talk with two separate people who work in the animation industry on Facebook. We don't speak anymore but for a good reason: they're hella successful now. The following is advice they both gave me

The mindset that you shouldn't do something until you are "good" is self-defeating. By doing that, you're depriving yourself of learning experiences. Surprise, you can learn to improve yourself AND draw smut at the same time. Sure your stuff will be rough at the start but who cares? No matter what you're drawing, you can use it to learn off of.
It's the same with comics and animation. If you wait until you're "good enough" to do them, you're wasting time you could have been using working on a comic or an animation

>>2330987
Morbi is my idol

>>2331376
Sure. I understand what you are trying to say, but this is pretty much bullshit if you want to get good as fast as possible. If you skip steps in your learning process, you will MOST CERTAINLY incur in bad habits and you will never get as good as you could in the same amount of time.

>>2331405
Ultimately you should be drawing because you enjoy it. If you like doing that min-maxing stuff go ahead, do you

>>2331166
>Stop trying to draw porn
My drawing isn't even porn, it's just a naked girl, so I decided to post it in this thread.

>>2331408
This. This shit is supposed to be fun you fucking autists. If you're trying to be the fucking best then there are a lot better places for critique and discussion than fucking 4chan.

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>>2327879
took a break and redrew this

>>2331500
Maybe i'm stupid but ribcage looks huge.

>>2331552
yeah it did

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>>2331559
oops

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I'm teaching my sister the ways of lord vilpu and shes only 8 by the time she reaches my age she will be better than me... But she will be great at drawing dick girls!

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>>2331606
>tfw no older family pushing you forward..
get her the fuck away from this board you sick fuck, this is pretty much child endangerment.

>>2331405
>get good as fast as possible.

I can condem your passion to have good things happen sooner than later, but seriously, what's the rush? Everyone goes at their own pace, and as said by >>2331408; art is something you first enjoy to do before pleasing others with your work. If you hate drawing something because someone thinks you should "git gud" first, then what's the bloody point? Having fun > being good. Being "good" is ultimately subjective.

>>2331458
Please, realize your drawing is in the first place a piece of crap.

>>2331606
What the fuck are you doing m8 get her off that accursed computer before she finds this purgatory of an image board and give her some paper and a pencil instead.

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>>2331752
she draws in pencil all the time but once a week i let her draw on the tablet......she likes mikufag bbc and cutchulu guy...i regret nothing..

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>>2331765
>corrupting a little girl..
degenerate.

>>2331007
>hawt orc looking chick
>futa
Fuck, interest denied.

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>>2331765
At this rate you're going to turn her into pic related.

>>2331859
think of it as a strap-on, anon

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>>2331904
nah, i draw lewd all the time, shes very mature so she will be fine, she actually listens so she's better than manic already. she does not like dick girls though but likes how bbc draws in pink, right now shes on the Disney stage of life so its all mermaids,ponys,tumbrl thrash (SU) monsters and piggies eating grapes.

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>>2331925
>shes very mature
she's 8 years old you retarded fuck

>>2331939
don't be a retard you know what i mean you liberal.

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>>2331925
anything that makes her NOT a millennial cunt will make her a more successful person, good job, kids around that age are kinda anti social and lazy so getting her more involved with you and teaching her skills makes her top level wife material, but then again i'm giving you father advice and since shes watching the chinz at that age i assume daddy wasn't there, sorry...but keep her away from the pr0n thread till shes like..11? you're still a degenerate.
>>2331939
the world is not sunshine and rainbows shes better off seeing ugly things in a controlled environment than by herself by accident, i bet you're the kind of guy who wont let kids learn about guns too.