Beginner Thread

Linked the wrong thread, whoopsies

here's the old one: >>2320096

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any help/comment appreciated

>>2324088
there's a lot going on here! you've got a bunch of gestures of animals and of people, some character illustrations, an eye, some rendering, etc... to post something so scattered like this and then just say "any help appreciated" doesn't seem very practical or efficient! being vague with what you're practicing and what you want critiqued begs for vague responses, like "loomis" or "read the sticky," so make an effort to be specific in the future.

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>>2324073
How to get better???

>>2324095
Thank you for responding, i think my major question would be shading its something i ve been experimenting lately and i dont feel comfortable doing it yet, i will post specific drawings in the furture too

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Some simple birds.

Guess I'l give the lizard a go with some more effort. Wish me ganbatte senpais

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Then again..

I already draw this excersise from 'right side of brain' this really help me to understant how to draw?

>>2324124
This is the third time you asked and you already got an answer. Look back at the previous thread.

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So I'm practicing seeing the flow in gestures. My old gestures used to have the problem of drawing the contour more so I was recommended to watch some lectures on the gesture and this is the result. Can I get a critique if I did these gestures correctly?

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Alright, how's this?

>>2324178
It looks really nice. I like the details you added on for his and you can really see the form of the lizard. The only thing that looks odd is the eye since it seems bigger than the original. But other was I like it.

Anyone else learning art so they can draw friends for themselves?

>>2324101
study form

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Hi I drew this. I based it on another drawing not on real life caused id figure it'd be easier and a good stepping stone before drawing from actual real life. I'll post the drawing i based it on in a second.

I would greatly appreciate feedback, I feel really lost and in dire need of a teacher. (I'm trying to get one but they all seem to be on vacation for christmas.)

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>>2324211

>>2324101
I would recommend starting with way simpler subjects.

>>2324135

I didn´t find the previus thread & sorry I dont read the answer.. :C

>>2324191
Thanks, I'm noticing some proportional errors overall now, probably should've spent a little longer.

>>2324203
Friends are overrated, anon - even drawn ones.

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My attempt at the lizard. Any critique on it?

>>2324242
bad proportions

>>2324211
looks like you are just copying shapes without analyzing what you are looking at. the angular shape of the glass doesnt line up for example

>>2324178
its okay. still have to look at proportions, the head is especially bad.

>>2324166
i dont understand the point of gesture drawing

>>2324124
it is suppose to help you view and draw shapes objectively rather than drawing the information that your brain thinks it knows about the object

>>2324106
cute

>>2324101
draw skeletons first. Take your time, your drawing looks rushed

>>2324088
looks cool, like a comic book style

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im starting with vilppu
the circles exercise? am i doing okay?

>>2324257
holy shit this is a garbage post

>>2324267
sorry i stepped in your safe space

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>>2324260
s'more drawings

>>2324260
>>2324274
your lines are shitty chicken scratches, especially the curves. You'll improve your understanding of spherical forms if you keep practicing them, but your lines will stay shit unless you start learning to loosen your grip and using your entire arm and shoulder to draw. Make your lines longer, more confident and purposeful, and make as few of them as you can. Sort of like >>2324166 but they're not the best example.

I suspect that the size of your tablet's drawing surface or the resolution of your canvas is stifling you. You'd be doing yourself a favour if you practice traditionally instead with large pieces of paper

>>2324269
>>2324257
kill yourself

>>2324276
oh ok
yeah my tablet's a fucking postage stamp. but i don't have a camera, so when i upload for critique i use a tablet. i do practice traditionally tho. are my spheres okay though?

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>>2324276
is this an improvement?

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Fucking shadows, how do they work?
Seriously, it actualy looked less shit before I added the shading.

>>2324335
the lines improved, can't say the same about the figure itself.

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Just fuck my shit up

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>>2324475
stop tracing, stop symbol drawing (eyelashes) tuke breaks everything
>>2324381
redline lottery
youre symbol drawing, go read the sticky. You can shade if you dont know what youre shading obviously.

>>2324516
>tracing
But I'm not, I just copied my best from a reference. I've been criticized for relying too much on references and that I am guilty of but not tracing. (Though someone in the porn thread did say they thought it looked traced).

I am guilty of symbol drawing. What is tukes? And how do you just "stop symbol drawing"?

>>2324522
to stop symbol drawing either bloc in everything, look intensely at every angle or construct everything out of forms.

>>2324527
How would you go about blocking out something as small as eyelashes?

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>>2324528
block them all together. Kinda like in anime they use a thicker top part of the eye as a symbol of more eyelashes.

>>2324530
Ah, I see.

>>2324530
Maybe an example without the hair covering the eye lashes would be better.

>>2324073

I keep starting and erasing this study. I can't get the shape of the lizard's head right or its perspective. Is it a rectangle or circle? How the hell do I start this?

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imaginative composition.

exhausted myself practicing anatony,trying backgrounds now,any advice?

working on this flat toned shading style kinda thing

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I got wrecked but I might as well post it anyway.

>>2324536
theyre literally all the same. The reason why we darken the top is two-fold, less light because of eyelashes, and eyelashes. the stylization goes accross litterally everything.

>>2324516
while im at it let me precise that the fact that the two eyes arent the same height ( as they should be) is just an accident from going too fast, actually i should have posted that redline its just completely shitty.

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Some turned out better than others. Business as usual I suppose.

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How is my figure drawing?

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>>2324601
scratchy,and you polish too much because of it.
when drawing lines try and focus by letting out a slow exhale when drawing larger lines.
and loosen up a bit m8

(also your leg anatomy is pretty bad)

>Working on Hampton's videos
>Week 1 is fun. Simply gestures
>Do said homework, move onto week 2.
>Literally throws everything about anatomy into your face

Hampton doesn't fuck around. Shit, there was so much in week 2, gotta re-watch that lecture.

>>2324581
No need for that, I got it.
Back to the sticky once again.

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I'm learning perspective so....Super Mario.

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Is figure drawing one of the most fun things to do /ic/? I haven't even done any proper propotions/anatomy/whateverthefuck studying yet I am having soo much fun doing it, despite shit results.

>>2324891
Where do you take your references from?

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Trying to work on gesture/construction, not as focused on proportion/copying. Critiques very welcome

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>>2325001
Rotated

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no references , and it probably shows

>>2325002
No clue what you think you're doing to that head. Try drawing the spine.

>>2325006
oh yeah, the head and left arm are still from the gesture and are pretty inaccurate. Looking out for the spine is a good tip though, thanks.

>>2324891
That's a good sign! I find that the difference between someone who has the potential to go professional and someone who's destined to be a hobbyist is that a professional actually enjoys doing drills and studies and the like. And even if you only plan to be a hobbyist, at least you'll be a pretty good one!

At the beginning, worrying about specific anatomy isn't too important, but it's good to at least try and nail the proportions and to capture the gesture of the pose. Keep on keeping on, dude.

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>>2324897
No refs.

This one is referenced, though. From the study thread. Blacked out the face BECAUSE FUCK MY SYMBOL DRAWING REEEEEEEE

>>2325053
das sum big feet

>>2324546
pls respond

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Why I suck? :C

>>2325005
sticky

>>2325005
blog?

>>2325101
thats not bad, anon. Keep going.

>>2325101
because you havent even put 100 hours into your new hobby yet

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been practicing in ms paint

thoughts? i actually got the hand somewhat decent which is incredible for me

>>2325166
Oh vey.

Impressive line art for the software. Anatomy a bit off though

>>2325170

i found out a really cheap trick to make your lines look better is just to use the 1 pixel brush and fill them out manually

and yeah i just realized when posting it that the chest STILL looked a bit off :^(

>>2325166
>signature

every time

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What are the best ways into training your eye to break things down into simple shapes? Any books or video tutorials that helps learn to see like this?

>>2325119
HUH
>>2325127
ylilauta.org/int

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>>2325195
hes laughing at you, not asking for your blog. Also, the sticky refers to the first thread in the catalog. You need to go and read it.

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>>2325199
Anon, look at the link of his "blog"

Also
>Alphonso Dunn
Just no. Try making a new "start pack" in 5 years

>>2325187
wut? are core highlights a thing?

>>2325207
stop being racsist, dipshit

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I think I messed up the chin, it's also pretty muddy.
Does anyone have suggestions for getting sharper results? I know 'use a hard round brush' but are you supposed to avoid using any opacity or something?

>>2325207
i can vouch for the other 3 so i assume hes just as competent. Look. I hate minorities just as much as the next guy. By far and large they are lesser people. That doesnt stop some from being really good and some of ours from being really shit. Take Ukraine for instance, they dont even count as white people anymore. So drop your old fashioned racism and be more flexible within your hate, man. You probably appreciate some minorities that are anonymously posting. All this hate of course, doesnt include asians, who are by far and large slightly better than the white population.

>>2324257
>critiques entire thread in dumbass 1 word to 1 sentence responses
>"i dont understand the point of gesture drawing"
>kys

when you go through and comment on everyone's work, you give off the impression that you know what you're talking about on some level. you clearly dont. pls stop

>>2325327

>critiques critiques with 1 sentence responses
>complains and provides nothing of use to anybody

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merry christmas faggots
I hope you all get gud

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How the hell are you supposed to hard shade clothes?

>>2325380
Shit wrong thread.

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>>2324073
Will my drawings improve once i get my classes and im not squinting like a mother fucker to see everything?
i know it won't be like magic, but i imagine i will at least have an easier time.
Anywho here is a negative space drawing.

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tell me everything you see wrong with this shit and have no mercy.also tell me everything you see right with this shit.

>>2325395
blog?

>>2325395
i didn't realize it looked even shittier with bigh quality

>>2325390
"How to draw..." by bety edward

>>2325396
don't have one,i have a facebook page but almost never update it

>>2325400
anon was being facetious.

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>>2325399
>How to draw..." by bety edward
>tfw im 4 years in
granted, im in a program i know nothing about, and i have to strain to see anything. My drawings tradtionally are better, and i have been mostly been drawing figures.
Should i just kill myself?
http://penciljester.tumblr.com/
heres some of my work

>>2325402
OH

>>2325402
no i wasn't, go fuck yourself

>>2325404
can you link me ur facebook page? i wanna follow ur progress

ill never be good

>>2325395
>tell me everything you see wrong
Okay here goes
>feet are too oversimplified which generally reads to most people as lazy or lack of confidence drawing the area
>If pants are loose like that they're going to sag around the sides especially with suspenders
>Right hand looks like it is in his pants not the pocket which I am assuming you meant. This can be changed with the pants being a little higher and the hand facing more outward of the body
>Straps are uneven and look flat
>The hat is a little too low and the rendering on the side is weird, like the hair is coming the cap or the cap is concealed behind the hair which makes no sense. Even with wild unruly hair the cap will always sit over the hair and there will always be a visible.
>Eyebrows seem to float rather than have a potion on the face. They are the center of expressive emotion, draw them with purpose.
>Ear also sticks out a little far and too high. The tops of the ears end at the same height with the eyes

>>2325410
Have you not seen the other threads where people are posting it as a joke? Chill out dude.

>>2325395
>everything you see right
Here goes again
>Proportions of the body are pretty correct.
>Use of foreshortening with the arm is actually pretty darn good for a beginner, the bottom edge should be smoother though
>The hand's basic construction is also pretty good

>>2325329
+1
>>2325390
form, negative space
>>2325395
its lazy tumblart

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Kill me

>>2325431
boom. you dead.

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Shitty picture of a drawing. It's just pen and paper.

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>>2325460
And then just finished this one today.

>>2325460
I relate to not having a scanner but damn that's a shitty pic dude

>>2325465
>>2325460
Like it actually makes it hard to concentrate on the drawing, post another one

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Thoughts?

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First time using illustrator, what you think?

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>>2325460
>>2325465
>>2325468
I had to find it and pull it out of the frame. It got left in a sketchbook that got flooded in my basement so the paper is worn out.

>>2325476
Bridge of the nose looks concave

>>2325478
This is what should've been posted in the first place

Bottom one is the best.

>>2325482
Thanks. It was my favorite one.

The other picture is a sankofa but as both symbols together and more ornate pattern shit.

>>2325478
What pens do you use? The line quality is a little erratic.

>>2325477

this concept has potential,but you need to redraw it with better forms before coloring it next time

>>2325492
Do you use the details or "ornate pattern shit" to represent any symbolism. or is it just filler? No problem either way jw. You should try out some knotwork, the end result would be pretty cool. I have a PDF about it if you want.

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>>2324106
How do I into construction lines? I feel like my figures are stiff and lifeless with them, but i cant draw from imagination without them

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I made another study, Its really messy and I'm still baffled by how to use digital tools properly.
I really don't know what to do.

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>>2325574
This is the original.

>>2325577
I call it: time to buy a new video card.

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thoughts on random drawings i did today? will post more maybe

>>2325580
>unfinished lines
>Circle tool
>gradient tool

Well it isn't really a drawing, so yeah...
Maybe go to the Graphic Design board?

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>>2324073
Gestures

Next I work on confident lines

>>2325503
The pens I was using don't say, but I imagine around 18mm and 25mm. I've been working on trying to keep a still hand and be more concise with each line. Working on it.

>>2325507
There are a lot of details between the two of them that are specific to my life or the events in it, but aside from maybe one or two things it's just filler.

>>2325507
>>2325640
Forgot to say, I did a quick study through Celtic knots. In the sankofa (the bird heart thing between the moth pictures) there are two places that have done knotwork

I really want to learn how to draw, but i have literally no skill, like none at all. The sticky isnt much help to be honest as i want an easier progression.

How did you guys who started with nothing get going?

>>2324166
Drawing gestures is meant to draw what you see and capture the motion, nothing else really matters as long as you can tell what they're doing it a good start

>>2324276
you don't know what chicken scratch, read the sticky and learn about art before using terms improperly.

And saying "Shit" multiples times in one sentence doesn't make you sounds cool just like you don't know what you're talking about

>>2325652
Draw stuff. Draw shapes, animals, people, trees, litterally anything you can see, drawing it will make you better.

>>2324073
>>2324178
>>2324242
>>2324547
>>2325246
Draw more than one lizard. It's studying not copying. If you really want to learn draw more, that's all I can say.

>>2325659

>it's studying not copying

I'm trying to learn how to select color and value better so copying is valuable to me as long as I don't use the color picker.

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>>2325664
You sound dense. You can use reference without it being copying. And you just said you're studying color and value. Personally I think the painting looks better than the original photo.

Now draw another lizard. It would be a shame if a painting was overworked and began to look bad. Hey I even found one for ya.

>>2325670
>You can use reference without it being copying.

I know, the point is that not all studies are made equal and not every study where you copy a reference is a waste of time. It depends on your goal.
But thanks for the lizard maybe I'll give it a go later tonight, if I don't get too drunk with new year's eve stuff.

>>2325476

work in black and white (values) for a year before you go back to color.

>>2325735
blog?

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>>2324073
i decided to do some circles and lines excersizes
1/3

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>>2325758
im not quite sure i was doing these right, i know that ive seen them before and i think your supposed to make as perfect a circle as possible in the lines you have drawn.
2/3

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>>2325759
This is a horrible mess, i might do another one tomorrow but this was warm up.
Now, if you notice, i think my vertical are much better than my horizontal lines, does anyone know why this would be the case?

>>2325751
>implying beginners have blogs

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>>2325751

>>2325779

>implying they don't
>implying he's not a shitposter anyway

>>2325762
Nigga please do that shit on paper and learn to turn the paper/canvas

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>>2325809
Why is that?
Also, here is my attempts of OP's pic.

>>2325762

>Now, if you notice, i think my vertical are much better than my horizontal lines, does anyone know why this would be the case?

Your hand will always have angles that are more comfortable than others. Learn to adjust your paper (or if digitally rotate the document) to get the best motion if the motion is awkward.

>>2325823
okay then! i wanted to be sure it wasn't a lack of skill or anything.

>>2325824

Well obviously that's a factor too, your lines will improve with practice as well.

>>2325414

You''ll be in good company on this board then.

>>2325825
okay then!

I'm dumb as fuck and have no idea what I'm talking about.

>>2325832
Welcome to /ic/.

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How do you break this fucking reptile into basic forms

Doing DOTRSOTB, do I really need a viewfinder?

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>>2325461
???

>>2325832
>>2325846
nice try buddy.

Though you are right.

>>2325926

blog?

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>>2326001

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I bit off more than i can chew with this.
Anyway, merry christmas.

>>2325926
>>2325932
>>2325997
we are testname
We do not 5get or 5give.

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This is a shit tier doodle but I'm proud of it for some reason

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Man all my tumblr friends are like "go back to drawing people" and I'm like "no I need to do more fundamentals."

>>2326164

Just do both.

regularly try to apply your studies of fundamentals in wider contexts. Understanding basic shapes is easy to apply to doing things like construction.

you might want to read a perspective book though, some of your boxes are a bit wonky. perspective made easy summarizes pretty well.

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>>2324073

M-merry chrismas

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>>2326166
I'm doing the 250 box challenge on drawabox.com at the moment, which is meant to teach how to do organic perspective. Here's some plotted perspective I've done as well.

>>2326167
unreadable. + no form

>>2326171
I need help, how do you use line art to suggest form? My line art is all over the place and really random right now

Do I just make lines further away less thick?

>>2326171

If you can't read that, you're just dumb. It reads fine, doesn't necessarily mean it's good though.

But, throwing around what you think is a knowledgeable sounding buzzword fallaciously makes you look like an imbecile.

P.S Merry Christmas.

>>2326180
Merry Christmas, oh and how do I improve my lines?

>>2326186

Stop drawing this fucking lizard!

>>2326194
its the op image you dolt

>>2326202

Oh man, I thought it was the same guy over and over. :D I really am a dolt.

I'm going to blame that on too many beers.

>>2326206

I'm sure most of us are pretty drunk tonight anon, don't sweat it.

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What do I need to work on? Damn hard to stop symbol drawing eyes.

>>2326218
>What do I need to work on?

start with ditching lined paper already. printer paper is fucking dirt cheap nigga you have no excuse.

>move on up to the "draw thread".
>>2324249
>>2325246
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>stay in this thread.
>>2324088
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>>2326222

>Leave /ic/ altogether

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crit please

>>2326258

>Distain for plebs/10

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>>2326222
they told me to stay here, can i stay?

>>2326258
I may be wrong, but i think thats cel shaded, and this would be the first cel shaded statue ive ever seen.
Does seem pretty solid over all dough

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>>2326222
glad to see that all you need is hastily drawn hands while chicken scratching to get your seal of approval.

>>2326283
you need to stay.
we're all very proud that you're using a meme program but you just churn out the same edgy shit day after day. even if you really feel the piece and believe it to be your soul on a page, it's not very good and you need to practice.

>>2326331

not him but whats a meme program? whats this meme program in particular?

>>2326338
hes using a version of microsoft paint.

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>>2326331
i think this is one of the best critiques i got about my 'work' in its totality. sadly i have to agree 100% with you.

I'm gay.

>>2326397
put a little more effort in your trolling and do something elaborate like post really bad drawings on my behalf. Maybe terrible advice, destroy my reputation before it even builds :)

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>>2326258 here

was doing a skull, its a work in progress. crit please

>>2326400
Nothing much to crit, man. The stage-right cheekbone looks like it's slightly higher than the stage-left but that could just be the skull.

>>2326403

You are right I will fix this.

Thanks.

>>2326398

> do something elaborate like post really bad drawings on my behalf. Maybe terrible advice

You're managing to do that perfectly well all by yourself. :)

>>2326408
then i dont see why you want to affect my reputation if its autobad

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It took me like three hours to finish the shading on the upper lip.

What am I doing wrong?

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>>2326425
baiting

>>2326222
>quick hand sketch
>move up
>dictating anything so autistically to begin with

>>2326222
>leave the board

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I am a total beginner...how can I be better

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As soon as im about to upload a picture i realzie how off it looks. Im so frustrated now, i actually thought this looked ok for the past 1 1/2 hours. I just can't ever make stuff look right.

Crits are welcome but here is some stuff i noticed already:
-Values are off (in part because of the camera, i promise)
-Proportions are off (nose and ear are too big)
-Face is too wide
-the hat is not in perspective

Anything more before i kill myself?

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>>2324101
My advice would be to look at different pictures of women or men or whoever/whatever you're drawing in different poses and make sure you don't forget to draw an outline. OutlInes are your friend, trust me. I just split up human anot my into different simple shapes and guide them with lines. Pic related, I kept my outlines for this picture. If you look closely at the lighter shaded lines I turned a full human body into simple shapes and traced along those shapes and added lines to show movement, which direction an arm or a leg is going.

>>2326581
>Anything more before i kill myself?
Look up how great artists drew things, it makes things a lot easier, trust me.

>>2326186
this one is good I love him

>>2326579
Try to focus on laying you proportions correctly before you actually fill in features. Have a single, clear light source. Don't smudge your paper with your finger

>>2326581
This is really nice construction but I think it's held back by the way you can't make out a light source. Looks flat, you know? Also the lips point downward on (the face's) right side. As for proportions I can't tell because I don't know your reference. Look into values a little more and you'rd be really good.

>>2326425

>What am I doing wrong?

You put an I where the A should be.

What are good exersises to get into constructing figures?
I can draw spheres, boxes and there kind of things and maybe even know a bit about 3d ish stuff but still cant grasp the whole construction thing. I read a bit of the theoretical things about it but it hadnt made click yet, so im hoping to find something more practical to get into it.

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>>2326180
im not throwing around buzzwords, legit have a hard time seeing that head. not sure if back of front ,etc.
>>2326179
its not about the line art, you simply didnt do construction.but answering your question literally, dropping down lines may help.

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some real beginner work on babbu's first tablet

excuse the dogshit lines, I'm trying out a whole bunch of stuff to find a decent primary brush setting for simple linework - it doesn't help that my tablet's not resting on a secure plane

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Any comments or critiques? I think I'm missing something really important drawing heads.

>>2326723

What tablet did you get / what program are you using? It looks like you have absolutely no pressure sensitivity.

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Critique literally everything I've done wrong. I know there's shit that's wrong with this but I can't figure how to fix it. I want to improve and understand so don't give me that "Go back to Loomis XD" bullshit.

>>2326728
Wacom Bamboo since it was cheap online and I'm super inexperienced.
Program is Krita, I've worked with photoshop and I'd like it more but it's expensive AS FUCK. Also looking at Paint Tool Sai

>>2326732
tits are weird, hands are weird, neck is completely disconnected from jaw, knees are fucking inverted, fingers are giving me trypophobia

>>2326736

Make sure your drivers are installed correctly and see if you can get your pen pressure to adjust either size or opacity. Unless you're going for a very particular look everything you draw will look bad without pen pressure. I've never used Krita so I can't advise on brushes, though. Sai is pretty nice as babby's first digital art platform.

Also remember anonymous, expensive software is no obstacle to an ambitious man with an internet connection.

>>2326723
blog?
pretty nice gesture

>>2326732
the only decent thing in the whole thread, no the entire board.

>>2326740
device drivers should be installed correctly, had some trouble with the disc as I'm running on a dogshit laptop but I installed the drivers from Wacom's site directly. will check

>>2326741
I'm assuming this was meant for
>>2326687

>>2326745
>I'm assuming this was meant for
>>>2326687
no

>>2326749
don't do this to me anon
I bruise easily

>>2326751

don't worry about him, he hasn't shut up in days.

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C&C please

>>2326766
Mouth is too small as well as the nose.

>>2326766
youre focusing too hard on some features and completely undermining others (big eyes small nose)
Also dont post pictures this big ever again.
Id recommend you do some face studies.

>>2326768
>youre focusing too hard on some features and completely undermining others (big eyes small nose)
Have you never heard of stylization?

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>>2326755
ah
posting a new sketch with updated drivers, apparently I had the pen wrong. still no pressure sensitivity, need to look through Krita's options because my tablet is definitely supposed to support it

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threw technique to the wind and just let loose for a little

>>2326776

Do you have parkinsons or something? Slow your roll man, those are messy lines even for someone new to tablets.

>>2326767
>>2326768
It's a style I was trying. Geez.
Also, sorry for the size.

Any other comment besides these?

>>2326803
>IT'S JUST A STYLE BRO JUST A STYLE
Fuck off and read vilppu

>>2326783
tablet isn't on any solid surface, I'm just holding it for now - am on a dogshit laptop and don't have much space to work with
these were mostly just to find a brush for linework

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>>2326811
I'm not making excuses. That is not a style I frequently use, but the proportions were intentional. There's no reason to point out what I did on purpose

Now YOU fuck off, faggot

>>2326766
No detail on neck looks kinda weird, though I'm a beginner as well, so don't take my word for it.

>>2326814
Next time, if you don't want to deal with retards like these (>>2326767 >>2326768 >>2326811) post in "alternative stylization" thread instead.

>>2326826
Thanks for the advice ;)

>>2326814
not the same anon but
a.) if you ask for criticism expect criticism even for things you like in the drawing. what do you even want concrit on?
b.)you can't expect everyone to understand the specific stylistic choices you used whether on purpose or not
c.) Even if something is done intentionally it doesn't necessarily translate into a successful drawing.

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>>2326828
I expected suggestions like 'you should contrast more', 'pay more attention to the shading', 'improve the eyeballs', 'be careful with simmetry', not shit like 'lol eyes too big read loomis xD'
it was obvious I made a choice for stylization, and 'something done intentionally doesn't necessarily translate into a successful drawing' was the reason that I asked for criticism

pff whateaver, not gonna even answer anymore

>>2326849
>not shit like 'lol eyes too big read loomis xD'
But nobody ever said that. They said
>youre focusing too hard on some features and completely undermining others (big eyes small nose)
>Mouth is too small as well as the nose

They were just trying to put in their criticism (something you asked for) on your work. You got immediately defensive. Not to mention your choice of stylization is not as obvious as you think it is.

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>>2325670
why am i having such a hard time posting?

>>2326766
kek

middleschool level at best

Sticky for you

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>>2326771
>>2326826
>>2326814
Stylization thread will say the exact same thing. It's NOT a style. Whether I can convince you now or youll figure it out later in your journey will hinge completely on whether or not i can convey it visually. So this is my try to get you to see the error of your thoughts.

PS: you belong in the beginner thread since you aren't thecnically proficient. You will recieve nothing but mockery in the alternative thread.

This is because the shape of the eye allows for it to be bigger in comparison to yours. Also, your being too realistic ( or trying to) imagine if someone put a photo and just made the eyes bigger and the nose smaller, that would look terrible. Basically with great rendering thats what your style would achieve,

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>>2326812
Here's another sketch with more layers, trying to actually establish the skeleton and all that, plus I got my tablet onto a semi-solid surface so the lines aren't so Michael J. Fox
Sorry if this is considered over-posting for the thread, not an /ic/ veteran by any means

>>2326891
blog?

>>2326891
>that missingno dick
oh god
better check what eraser I'm using

>>2326894
that's the least of your worries

What should I draw to practice?

>>2326904
hands. gesture. value study.

Look at prokos gesture tutorial. learn form and apply.

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>>2325670

I really struggled on that little fucker for some reason.

>>2326904

Lizards.

>>2326904
Everything you want to learn to draw and more. Generally drawing from life/photo, but otherwise every conceivable thing you try to put on paper, do it.

>>2326903
well obviously otherwise I wouldn't be posting in the _beginner_ thread
did you have something to actually contribute, or...?

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>>2326883
>>2326766
This is corrected by only playing with size.

>>2326917
So much better

>>2326883
Speaking of beginners, when do you stop being a beginner? I feel like I've treading water in the beginner stage for some time now.

>>2326918
I honestly want this guy to reply and apologize to everyone.

>>2326920
Apologize for what?

>>2326921
for being an ass that can't take criticism in a thread full of a lot more people who are starving for criticism

>>2326917

>corrected
>turned your deliberately exaggerated proportions into more realistic sized ones because I like things that way
>taught nothing

>>2326919
Anything equal to these or above
>>2326581
>>2326258
>>2325403
>>2325395
>>2325380
>>2326907
is not a beginner, anything below should probably stay. The line isnt clear, you might as well put your lesser works in the beginner thread. A lot of people post in beginner thread for the studies/lack of confidence which confuses many.

>>2326917
>>2326918
>>2326920
>>2326922

Cringeworthy samefagging

>>2326923
did you not look at my other redline?
>>2326922
>>2326923
youre the only one who doesnt believe that this criticism is valid. If you want to talk further about this feel free to contact me at [email protected] (im serious)and we can set up a voice chat.

This guy is the definition of sunken cost fallacy

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>>2326925
id like you to send a screenshot of all these if possible
>>2326925
>>2326923
>>2326921
>>2326814
>>2326803

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>>2326925
>>2326926
>everyone who disagrees is the same person!

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>>2324073
why is everybody so mean in these threads?

>>2326930
oh my apologies i misslinked you in my last post, i got really confused on that screenshot.

>>2326935
Its the art equivalent to bitter virgins.

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>>2326929

Sure thing. :)

>>2326883
That's more like criticism. That's what I was talkin' about.

Thanks, anon. I'm sincerely grateful.

>>2326924
>tfw your work is not even comparable to these
Thanks for ruining my day.

>>2326657
Don't wanna interupt the arguing but, anyone?

>>2326942

Most people here will recommend Loomis. Try reading through "figure drawing for all it's worth". Study the pics, it should give you a good idea of how to apply using 3d shapes to construct the figure.

>>2326922
I wanted advices, not bullshit. By stating the obvious, you're just saying 'oh smaller eyes lol'. I won't apologize except for those who have actually helped me.

Btw let's leave the drama behind. I'm gonna practice

>>2326940
Everything else was criticism too, but you decided to be a bitch rather than have a conversation about it.

>>2326942
try gestures and build people out of cubes and spheres. I recommend you look at prokos gesture tutorial or vilpu ( he applies building figure with blocks on a more bodily level)
>>2326939
Can you post your work or an equivalent redline to validate your opinion then? You're basically spreading missinformation by supporting a style based ego. And I'd hate to let you go without arguing further.

>>2326948

pssst... you're being a bitch too.

>>2326940
you may not have noticed but i was also the original person to sugges the resizing but you refused to accept that. In total ive critiqued you 3 times and you took 2 critiques away from others.

>>2326952
Just shut the fuck up and go draw something you fucking mexican

>>2326956
How the hell does being mexican come into play?

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>>2326952
>>2326954
>>2326956
>>2326959
Guys, stop. What the fuck. I'm already drawing something else, it's over.

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>>2326956
>>2326959
how did you detect hes mexican?
>>2326581
since i reffed you.

>>2326961
if you dont want to have fights dont defend yourself with "Style" and dont call people idiots when they give you advice. If the advice is genuinely bad another anon will swoop in to correct them.

>>2326961
Lol get off the thread and back to drawing then

>>2326962
>hes
Am I the only one who thought the poster was a "she"?

>>2326954

>Notice all my critiques and praise me for them

Who gives a shit how many times you've critiqued someone. Get this. Maybe... I know it's hard to accept, but maybe they don't agree with you.

It's not the end of the world if people ignore your advice and don't kiss your boots over what you perceive is your superior knowledge.

Say what you have to say and then let it go. You don't need to keep haranguing people or then being snide to them when they don't reply in a way you'd like.

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>>2326967
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING THESE MAGICAL INSIGHTS FROM DUDE. Obviously assume its a guy, this place is so hostile, especially so to girls.

>>2326972
obviously I'm basing this on assumption like chill the fuck out.

>>2326970
oh, im saying that because it one critique he insulted me and in the other he's nice. Was just bringing it to attention that its the same person hes had polar reactions to.
But yes praise me.

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Does anyone here ever use a prompt generator? Or a list of character types or things to draw when you have no ideas but feel like drawing?

>>2326974

There's obviously more than one person responding to questions, impersonating others and trying to wind everyone up here.

That's the problem with an anonymous board. m, otherwise just move on.

>>2326975
might as well draw something for a friend at that point. No reason to limit yourself to RNG

>>2326979

I guess you're right. I am a gay.

>>2326983
All my friends draw, many of them better than me, that's not gonna work out. Besides I imagine they're busy with family today, it being xmas and all, I doubt any of them would respond to a text right now.

>>2326766
Very boring expression, e.g in the eyes, eyebrows and mouth. Could use a lot more dark areas for contrast

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Started on the 21. Progress four days later. What do you think? Thumb still looks kinda weird.

>>2326997
youre just eyetracing theres no point in criticizing, overlay the image and the hand, I could name the way in which singular hands could be improved ( left hand 2 middle fingers shorts, palm small) but honestly just keep track of relative position and negative space. Or start drawing through the form by drawing it in simplified blocks/cylinders

>>2326997
testname please explain to this guy everything I would explain but I don't want to write a big text
thanks

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>>2327001
im one step ahead of you buddy.
>>2326997
Same process as seen here.

>>2327000
>>2327001
>>2327004

If you aren't samefagging, then that's just a whole other world of lame.

You two should get like a private irc room to cyber in or something.

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>>2327012
im glad to see this is causing you stress.

>>2327004
Ah yes. I still have problems with simplifying objects. Gitta workshop more on that. And finish DotRSotB.

>>2327004

I'm sorry but posting that is useless. Firstly it's sight size. It deals with the kind of eye training and spacial/distance awareness that a beginner is not going to have a handle on. Also it's heavily debated how good a technique when compared to Riley and construction it is to teach.

You're also showing a beginner an example by someone who has been drawing for years. This is a mistake. You're setting unachievable goals which will only serve to instil a feeling of failure when they are unable to even reach anywhere near it.

This is rule 1 in bad teaching. You don't set unattainable targets that will sap a students confidence and dissuade them from continuing to study.

The reason Loomis was such a good teacher is he used simpler examples, tailored more towards the level a beginner would be at. Increasing in gradual stages throughout the course of instruction.

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Posting a bit more if that's okay

This was done from a study of a figure off Google, I tried a combination of drawing by sight and drawing based off of forms.
I definitely am having issues visualizing certain parts of the body, especially the legs, as simple forms,and I think I fuck myself up more trying to "correct" lines that look odd than anything.
Also, hands and feet REALLY need some work, gonna do some studies of those tomorrow.
I also find I have a lot of issues replicating images on the left side of the canvas onto the right. Are there excercises that help fix that? I'm avoiding using Mirrors or Transform tools as much as possible.

Any other blatantly obvious issues or criticism in general would be great, I know this is real entry level

>>2327032
Exactly, loomis is for idiots who wants to get from beginner to pro in 1 day only, that's why it's so easy to uderstand

>>2327045
>left side of the canvas onto the right.
derp, right to left

>>2327052
Bro are you fucked in the head? I think you have serious problems

>>2327061
not that i know of, why?

>>2327046

That doesn't even make sense. Here's the reply you wanted though.

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Critique?

>>2327074

Study Loomis.

>>2327065
Yeah it's too complicated for you, go study some loomis

>>2326726
Can someone give me some advice on what I'm doing wrong with these?

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>>2327032
I dont believe the general idea of blocking and refining is wrong to show.

its just as easy to argue that showing him something bad(flawed) would potentially hurt him. did you want me to link this one?

>>2327087
this falls within the category of things that are hard to critique for long to explain reasons, it isnt bad enough or good enough to be critiqued generally or precisely. So nobody will want to do it.

I'll give you a critique if you try really hard on a single face.

TLDR; any critique you can recieve for this would be near useless.because you understand the concept but have uni formally bad application.

>>2327093
>because you understand the concept but have uni formally bad application.
How do I improve my application of it then? I could try focusing on one head.

>>2327098
>How do I improve my application of it then?
Keep doing some... Work on lines so we know where your mistakes are and they arent hidden.

>>2327086

Post work.

>>2327126
can you post your work while we wait for his because hes going to ask you to post your work before even thinking of posting his.

>>2327138

>>2326863
>>2326907
head is an angular shape and it's at an angle, the light is hitting the front of the body, but the head makes it look like the side of the body is getting light

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>>2324073
Found a sketchbook and did this yesterday.
Thoughts?
Never drawnbefore.

>>2327674

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>>2327674
Heres the pic