what are some good comics and manga i could use as reference?

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>>2063883
also, related is from innocent by sakamoto shinichi, some anon posted about it earlier. it looks very good but sadly it isn't translated.

>>2063883
Not the manga, but the animation of Jojo's bizarre adventure had some interesting art in it.
Hive the manga has some cool backgrounds

Vanesa R. Del Rey
Frank frazetta which isn't exactly a comic artist but he is so good I can't leave him out
Brian Bolland

>>2063890
You can't learn about comics from animation man, it's all about composition and line weight.IMO The hardest part is making a still image appear dynamic.

>>2063883
Vinland Saga has some artwork somewhat similar to Beserk. Not in terms of subject, but in terms of quality.

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>>2063890
kek, the manga is always better
jojo is amazing

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ITT: Weaboos everywhere

>based Sean Murphy

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If you want to learn how to ink, study Bill Watterson

>>2063917
That's fucking garrish and ugly

>>2063923
Please, the best looking western comics are shit compared to the best looking japanese ones.
Prove me wrong.
>protip - you can't

>>2063917
I still like the animation better of jojo. But yes, it is amazing.

Actually, now that I think of it, I don't really know of any comics from North America. Does anyone have any recommendations? I like scifi, horror, action, and cute things!

>>2063940
ah north american doesn't make comics, only graphic novels.

>>2063949
Oh, I see. I have read some then! Where are comics made, then?

>>2063883
Check this thread >http://www.quora.com/Which-Manga-has-the-best-art-work

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Vinland Saga

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>>2063883
Vagabond hands down
Pic related

>>2063924
That looks like ass

>>2063960
Yeah, Vagabond has amazing art.
Slam dunk is by the same dude and is pretty good too.

hiroki mafuyu is top tier

One Punch Man is pretty fucking well drawn

>>2063883
Berzerk, it's theme is during Europes medieval era.

>>2063889
You can't buy an official translation or anything, but it's certainly being fan translated http://mangatopia.net/main/2013/09/eninnocent-v01/
Also the artist has an Instagram with username 14mountain that has quick snaps of current chapters he's working on

>>2063928
I think that looks a lot better, actually.

And we all know my opinion > your opinion after all. :^)

I really like Sidooh.

https://ecchimustdie.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/top-10-mangas-com-melhor-arte-v2-0/

>>2063928
Man, I've read over 200 manga titles and I'll have to disagree. Have you seen Bernie Wrightson's stuff? Or Moebius' work? They're at least on par with the likes of Vagabond and Berserk's most detailed chapters.

Or perhaps Loisel's work. Or Blacksad, which is a fantastically illustrated comic as well. Open your mind, anon! And pick the best from both worlds.

>>2063923
The irony is that Sean Murphy's art was influenced from Japanese anime/manga as well.

>>2063898
>Vanesa R. Del Rey

She's so much better than Ming Doyle. It pains me that Ming is getting any work when Vanessa is miles ahead of her.

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>>2064028
Just finished this series the other day.
So fucking good.

>>2064306
What the fuck am I looking at. Photoshop's eyedropper tool? Whatever it is it's unsettling.

>>2064348
go read it

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Oh! Great (Ito Ogure) is really good with his panels and illustrations. If you're just looking for the art and don't give a shit about story, his stuff is pretty high up there IMO.

>>2064247
the irony is that Japanese anime'/manga was influenced by American animation as well

art doesn't exist in a vacuum, comics mutually influence each other

>>2064352
it's pretty full of that.

>>2064088
>over 200
Noob

>>2064019
Cool, thanks anon!
One punch man is also good

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kokou no hito has some pretty beautiful double spreads

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blame! gets pretty cool

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>>2064088
>Bernie Wrightson
>Moebius
>Loisel
>Blacksad

Anon confirmed for great taste in comic book art. I would definitely recommend OP to check out creators of Franco-Belgian adventure comics. Hermann, Alex Alice, Uderzo... The list goes on.

>>2064019
i just read some of it, and god damn this shit is gay as fuck

>>2063883
Paulo Serpieri

>>2064783
This

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a common mistake artists make when they start making comics is that they think that more detail = better comics, when there's a lot more things to consider. there's a reason hyper realistic comics are hard to find, while styled comics are the standard. when making comics, you have to value time over quality, else you won't be able to keep a regular schedule. you have to work with what you can do quickly, rather than working to the full extent of your abilities. the reason there's comics that are amazingly detailed in common panels is because that is the low end of the artists abilities. so of course, if you want to make detailed/realistic comics, you have to raise your abilities to an insanely high level so that you can make amazing panels in a timely manner. comic artists cannot afford to spend days on a single panel. even splash pages need to be done within a day or two else they'll get off schedule. you also have to consider that highly detailed panels determine the flow of the work and how fast people read the page. the more detail, the longer the reader spends looking at the panel, which makes time flow slowly on the page. you cannot have a high action scene where every panel is highly detailed, else it'll seem like a slow fight or even worse, boring. you need things to be more simplistic but with a lot of movement to keep things lively and make it seem like actions are happening quickly.
another thing is, don't use another artists work as a reference. you can use it as inspiration, but remember that an artists work is their own vision and their own warped perception.

>>2063940
Sounds like you would like Saga by Brian k. Vaughan AnDFiona Staples.

>>2064088
Filthy casual
After having read 1500+ manga series I can confirm that both eastern and western comics can blow your mind

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Shazam: Power of Hope drawn by Alex Ross

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sword of glass comic has great architecture, nature and costumes. Too bad it is boring as shit

>>2063917
The colored version of JJBA is hideous, the pages that Araki colored personally are the only ones that are necessary.

>>2064348
Inio Asano is terrible at drawing backgrounds so he does photoshop overlays over photographs instead.

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>>2065821
>The colored version of JJBA is hideous
Ofc the original B&W version is better, no doubt about it.
But c'mon pic related looks sweet as hell.

>>2064618
And European artists were influenced by the ukiyo-e prints they received during the 1800s if you really want to go there.

>>2065808
this is the type of comics i want to make

>>2065808
This is beautiful, anon.

>>2063883
https://www.pinterest.com/ednewsom/moebius/
You're welcome.

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Berserk has some beautiful scenes inbetween the carnage

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>>2065978
thank you good sir

Shinkichi Katou and Bill Sienkiewicz.

>>2065833
I'm so with you on this.
I have a link to his artbook

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No one posted Samura.

http://bakabt.me/149194-brute-love-hitodenashi-no-koi-izumi-komitsukusu.html

>>2063923
Murphy is by far my favourite artist in comics right now. He's especially good for mechanical references. That being said, his shit can be hard to follow sometimes. Even he admits he went a little overboard with tones in Punk Rock Jesus, if I recall correctly.

If you want references for clearly defining the action/narrative check out Blacksad. Another obvious option would be Akira. It gets a bit masturbatory with the pacing at times, but overall really great. I'll probably get shit on for suggesting Dragon Ball/Z as well, but the way Toriyama utilizes movement has always been top notch. He arguably relies on speed/action lines too much, but the clarity is still there.

>>2063924
This is also accurate. If you plan to ink traditionally, use a god damn brush.

>>2065808
The colours are amazing, but out of context the actually pacing feels off. A little inconsistent as well. Man running in first and second panel, casual stroll look in the third panel gripping a heavy backpack, then he's way ahead in the eighth panel. I assume the boy is falling from the tree but I thought he was jumping out of the brush before going back to try and make sure.

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No one posted boichi?

God fucking damn /ic/ makes me wonder sometimes

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>>2069529
I adore the curves on his female characters.

>>2069533
His females look stupid.

And that leg/hip attachment of the left woman...

>>2069533
Nice! But whats with the stupid expressions on the girls?

>>2069616
They're sexy faces. Why? Havnt you pleasured a woman before?

>>2069911
You into monkeys, anon?

>>2063883
vagabond, gunnm and priest (actually a manhwa)

>>2069916
maybe....

>>2064783
yup, say what you will about his faces (they've definitely improved), but his designs are just ridiculous.

>>2067887
fffffuuuuuccckkkk noooooo

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Me and the Devil Blues

Anything by Murata

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Part 7 and 8 Jojo are pretty nice imo.

>>2074643
Have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qM2vHahcqQ

I think you would like it

>>2064893
So you can't use references from manga for anatomy? I know to keep it unique but I don't get what you're trying to say on that last part. I really just need references for body angles so I can get used to it.

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Sekiganjuu Mitsuyoshi

wonderful bodies
wonderful hands

Reading Berserk motivates me.

But when thinking about it when I'm drawing is depressing me.

>>2075621
this really looks like my kind of art style.

beautiful. though her eyepatch in the first frame makes it look like she's derping.

>>2075621
I can't stand styles like these. The tiny eyes, broad noses, round heads and rubber lips make all the girl look chubby and borderline retarded. Never been a fan of using generic anime style eyes, but shrinking them to a more realistic size. It just doesn't work.

>DURR HURR YOU MUST ONLY LIKE SAUCER EYES UGUU ANIMU

Fuck off with your strawman, strawman.

>>2075719

is this nigga serious ?

>>2075737
i'm afraid he is

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>>2075737
Are you? Who the fuck considers this attractive? She looks like she has Down's.

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>>2075751

>>2075751

in this pic you can't see the mouth or her "down" expression. is it goo or bad ?

>>2075621

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>thread about good comic art
>no moebius
>100% weaboo

Just when I thought /ic/ couldn't get any worse. This board really has sunk to new lows.

>>2075796
UWAAAAAAA ;_;

>>2075796
>not reading thread
>not ctrl+f at very least
>100% faggot

Just when I thought /ic/ couldn't get any worse. This board really has sunk to new lows.

>>2075796

As if we weren't fucking aware of moebius already you little niggerfaggot.

>>2075820
op sad "comics and manga." This thread is almost all manga

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>>2075830