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וּבָאוּ בִּמְעָרוֹת צֻרִים וּבִמְחִלּוֹת

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וּבָאוּ בִּמְעָרוֹת צֻרִים וּבִמְחִלּוֹת עָפָר מִפְּנֵי פַּחַד יְהוָה וּמֵהֲדַר גְּאוֹנוֹ בְּקוּמוֹ לַעֲרֹץ הָאָרֶץ
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י אִמְרוּ בַגּוֹיִם, יְהוָה מָלָךְ-- אַף-תִּכּוֹן תֵּבֵל, בַּל-תִּמּוֹט;
יָדִין עַמִּים, בְּמֵישָׁרִים. 10 Say among the nations: 'The LORD reigneth.' The world also is established that it cannot be moved; {N}
He will judge the peoples with equity.
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>>2811050
your contradicting yourself again... honestly read them at least twice before posting...
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>>2811154
care to explain yourself and state your case?
or just make unjustified claims and lie as usual ?
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>>2811156
i don't have to we've met before
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>>2811162
if you have no evidence of your claims and no desire to make clear your allegations.
then the truth is, you are a liar, bound for eternal suffering.
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Probably the most famous non-Christian source used as "evidence" for a historic Jesus, is the Roman senator, consul, speaker, and historian Cornelius Tacitus ( 20 - 117 AD). In a passage in his "Annales, book 15, verse 44" from the year 115 AD concerning the Christians, he mentions the name "Christ" as the subject for the Christian's cult and worship:
"Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of... Pontius Pilate, and the pernicious [or wicked] superstition [Christianity] was checked for a moment, only to break out once more, not merely in Judea, the home of the disease, but in the capital [Rome] itself, where all things horrible or shameful in the world collect and find a vogue."
This is mere hearsay; it's by no means an eyewitness report or useable as evidence of a historical Jesus-figure.
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>>2811178
Then we have Tranquillus Gaius Suetonius ( 69 - 140 AD), a Roman historian and the personal secretary of emperor Hadrian. Suetonius also mentions the name Chrestus as the subject of the Christians worship.
"Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (Claudius) expelled them from Rome".
("Judaeos, impulsore Chresto, assidue tumultuantes (Claudius) Roma expulit".)
This is also mere hearsay, and not any kind of suitable evidence for the existence of a historical Jesus.

So is also the information by Pliny the Younger, Roman governor in Asia Minor around AD 110. In a letter to emperor Trajan, he asks what to do with the Christians who "sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god".
Not exactly an eyewitness report of Jesus, and surely not hard evidence of anything else that Christians also sang hymns around 110 AD.
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>>2811179
Josephus Flavius (born AD 37 or 38), a Jewish historian, does not mention any Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities, the history of the Jews from the beginning of time until the time of emperor Nero (published ca AD 93). Josephus mentions, among others, Pontius Pilate, John the Baptist and king Herod, and numerous events of minor and major political, religious and economical interests in the area. But he does not seem to know of any Jesus.

Then, in the third century, an earlier unknown addition to the Jewish Antiquities miraculously emerged, the so called "Testimonium Flavianum". Here Josephus suddenly witness Christ, and becomes a Christian. The problem is that this text is a forgery! Even parts of the Catholic Church acknowledges this. The forgery was probably written by the infamous bishop (and famous Church historian) Eusebius of Caesarea (ca AD 265-330). He forged a lot of texts in his time.
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>>2811180
What about Christ's contemporaries?
None of the literate contemporaries of Jesus know anything of him. The Jewish historian Justus of Tiberia who lived at the time of Jesus, do not know of him. (Tiberia was a place not far from Capernaum which Jesus often visited, according to the Bible).

The Jewish scholar and leader of the Jewish society in Alexandria, Philon of Alexandria (around AD 30 - 45) does not mention any Jesus anywhere in his texts. Philon was a famous scholar of the Old Testament and had deep knowledge of the Jewish cults of his time. He died ca. AD 50.

There is thus no real historical evidence of a historical Jesus. One would suppose that, a character like Jesus who according to the gospels raised the dead, healed the sick and annoyed both the Jewish establishment and the mighty Romans to such a degree that they finally had to execute him, one should think such a character would make it into at least some contemporary historical texts. Nope. No record.

In view of the evidence the only honest conclusion is that the Gospel's Jesus never existed.
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Jesus never existed.

That there once lived a wannabe-Messiah named Joshua (greek: Jesus) in the first century Palestine is more than probable. Roman sources tell of dozens of more or less religiously confused wannabe-Messiahs at the time, and Joshua was a very common Jewish name. But this could not be the Gospel's Jesus, not the Son of God, raising the dead, healing the sick, annoying the establishment, executed as a criminal, and then finally flapping away to heaven. All that stuff is pure mythical, and blatantly stolen from older pagan cults by the anonymous Gospel-authors.
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The originality of Jesus

Who was the Son of the highest God, and the biggest healer in Antiquity? He healed the sick and even raised the dead. Hear and behold: former paralysed walked again, the blind could miraculously see again, and the deaf could listen and the mute speak after the Master's gentle touch! But he did not only heal the body, he also healed the soul. They called him Saviour and Redeemer, and he healed both rich and poor, men and women, young and old, slaves and free men, friends and enemies. In one occasion a paralysed man was brough to him in his bed, and took his bed and left walking after the Saviour had touched him. What was this Saviour's name?

… Asklepios.
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Who was born by a mortal virgin mother and had a divine Father, and was known as the "Saviour of the world"? Before he was born his parents wandered to a bigger town, and prophets had foretold his birth and that he would be a king. This instigated a search for the infant Saviour by a leading figure who wanted to kill him. After growing up the Son of God was shown all the kingdoms of the world from a high mountain. He also walked on water and when he met his end his mother and his favorite disciple stood by him. He then tells his mother: "Do not cry, I'm going to heaven". When he dies he utter: "It is finished" and the earth trembles and darkness cover the land. Then he ascended to heaven, and his greatest achievement was to conquer death.

His name was of course...Hercules.
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We all of course know the Redeemer who was no figure of pagan Greek polytheism. He was the true Saviour who wanted to help and save the sinful humans, by sacrificing himself. But he was willing to do this, out of love, pity and compassion for the humans.

His name:...Prometheus.
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Now, who was the real Son of God, born by a mortal virgin mother, and often presented as the venerated newborn infant, or depicted riding a donkey? He healed the sick and did numerous wonders, among those making fine wine from plain water. He was killed but resurrected from the dead and became immortal. The followers of this God often ate a holy meal in a kind of sacramental union with the deity to achieve immortality after their death. One of this god's finest achievements was his death, his sacrifice, which delivers the whole human kind.

The God was the very popular Dionysos.
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Who is the "Light of the World", the One, the God who defeated death? Born of a virgin mother, considered the first true King by the people. Who rose from the grave and ascended to heaven. He defeated death, and must be considered the single true God.

Of course the Egyptian Osiris!
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Now, the real God often called the "Light of the world", "The good shepherd", "The lamb" and is "…the way, the truth, and the life". Identified with a cross. Who could that be?

Horus, (the son of Osiris).
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The original "Light of the world" was the mediator between God and man and was born on the 25.th of December. Local shepherds witnessed his birth and gave him gifts. He had 12 disciples, and when his work was done on earth he gathered together to a last supper, and then ascended to heaven. At doomsday he will return to pass judgment on both the living and the dead. The righteous will go to heaven and the sinful will be killed in a giant fire. Sunday is his holyday, and this religion gave us the seven days of the week. His followers called each other "brothers" and their leaders "fathers". They practiced babtism and established a sacred meal ritual, where flesh and blood was symbolically consumed by initiates. Above earth was heaven, and below the dark hell with demons and the sinners.

The 'Light of the World' is of course the sungod Mithra.
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Wise men were led to his birth by a star, and his conception was miraculous. After his birth the ruler in the area wanted him dead and started a hunt for the child. But his parents were warned by a heavenly messenger who told them to escape over the river with the holy child. Here, he was met by shepherds. The boy grew up and did many great deeds, and was the mediator between God and man.

His name: Krishna.
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Who then, was the God whose mother was told by an angel that she would give birth to a holy child destined to be a Saviour? Even as a child he instructed the priests in the temple in religous matters, while his parents were looking for him. He started his religious career when he was ca 30 years of age, and surrounded himself with 12 disciples. One of the disciples is his favorite another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around talking in parables and metaphors. This God called himself "Son of Man" and was referred to as "Prophet", "Master" and "Lord". He did many great wonders and healed the sick, blind could see again and deaf hear.
He also walked on water. When one of his disciples tried to do the same, he started to sink - his faith was not strong enough.

We are here obviously talking about Buddha
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Our Saviour cannot be mistaken for any other. He performed countless miracles on earth, miracles well attested to by bystanders. He healed the sick and the crippled, restored sight to the blind, cast out demons, and even raised the dead! His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. While still a child, he exhibited extraordinary knowledge of religious scripture. He reformed the corrupt and worldly religions of his day. He was crucified, rose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples to prove to them his power over death, after which he ascended to Heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father. He was known as "the Son of God!" His message is of love and compassion.

We give you: Apollonius of Tyana*
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And there is of course the God-man, the prophet, the founder of a great monotheistic religion that still exist today. He preached that there was only one true God, and his teachings focused on the eternal fight between good and evil. The teachings include the idea of the Saviour will wake the dead and pass judgment on all. The righteous ones goes to Paradise and the sinful straight to a burning Hell. The very word of Paradise stems from this religion. This semigod started his career in his early thirties, and had a following of disciples. As a band of monks they wandered around, preaching their religion. He was eventually killed and sent to heaven.

And he was the Persian Zarathustra
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Alexander the Great (356 BC - 323 BC)
"Alexander the Great's birth had been 'immaculately conceived' and then 'celestially announced.' He was a precocious youth that confounded his elders. He railed against conventional thinking (orthodoxy) and was revered everywhere, except by his own family and home town.

His campaign began with a wedding. He cast out demons and was accused of having a demon. He fed the multitudes and spoke in parables. He was particularly fond of the mustard seed. He traveled incessantly. He prayed for those that spitefully used him.

He walked on water and calmed the tempest. He was warned against entering his capital, but approached his prophesized demise with eager resolve. He was lifted up into the "heavens" and also descended to the "underworld." His higher calling was to attain a faraway kingdom, and one that could only be gained through a symbolic death and ascension. He comforted and later appeared to his followers. He moved mountains and walled off those who believed in him from the onslaught of the godless.
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The problem for Jesus is that all these deities and persons are much older than him. You don't have to be very bright to see where the authors of the Gospels got their "devine inspiration" when they created the Jewish version of the popular God-Man/ World-Saviour of Antiquity
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Why a historical Jesus never existed

There is no contemporary historical record of any kind of Jesus!! No written Roman, Greek or Jewish sources from this time (apart from the gospels) know of any historical Jesus or Christ. The name "Christ" is mentioned in some later texts (Tacitus, Suetonius Pliny d.y.) but then merely as the name of the idol of the Christians' worship (Read what these sources really say here). We don't even know who the writers of the Gospels were, and don't have the original manuscripts themselves either. We just have later copies of copies of copies of copies … of copies of the assumed lost originals. And with each copy the copyist usually felt free to alter details or rewrite whole parts of the manuscript. (We usually don't trust dubious anonymous sources as evidence for anything, do we?)
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All the divine aspects of the Jesus figure are "stolen" from earlier similar dying and resurrected godmen, such as Dionysos, Osiris, Hercules, Attis, Mithra, Horus, Zarathustra and others. Actually there are few (if any) things about Jesus that are original at all. Jesus is just the Jewish version of this popular mythic Saviour- character in the Mystery-religions of Antiquity.
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All the teachings of Jesus are "borrowed" from older sources, for example from the teachings of Buddha. Many of Jesus teachings are almost word for word identical with some of Buddhas sayings (400 years earlier). The so-called "Golden rule" can be found in several earlier pagan Greek (and Jewish) texts. The famous "Sermon on the Mount" was never held by Jesus (of course, since he never existed), but also because it was actually first produced in the second century AD by Christian priests, assembled from what they assumed were sayings of Jesus in different other texts.
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The "birthday" of Jesus is of course unknown, not even the year of his miraculous birth is known. The church just stole the already popular date of the 25th December, which in Antiquity was an immensely popular celebration of the birth of the sungod Mithra, - "the light of the world".
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The story of Jesus was originally an allegorical story based partly on the Jewish exodus myth and Joshua/Jesus ben Nun, successor of Moses, the Jewish Messiah-myth and the widespread pagan myth of the dying and resurrected godman Dionysos-Osiris. Later uneducated Christians in Rome, people without the insight and understanding of the deeper meaning of the texts, started to take these allegorical stories for their face value, and Literary Christianity as we know it was born.
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10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
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9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that humans were created from dirt.
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8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
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7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the male first-born babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" – including women, children, and trees
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6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods consorting with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
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5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is about a couple of generations old.
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4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering, and yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
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3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor “speaking in tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" your choice of religions to be the correct one.
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2 – You define .01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers, and consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% failure was simply the will of God.
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1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but you still call yourself a Christian.
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what ? >>2811210
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>>2811231
nonsense typical of a confused , belligerent hater of God
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what ?>>2811203
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There are basically four stances you can take on the subject.
1. Events from the Bible can be scientifically explained away as perfectly reasonable events that have no divine meaning
2. You believe in literal sorcery
3. God is dead, never existed, and never will be
4. God is very much alive but has completely abandoned us/does not care about us
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>>2811233
It's interesting how the more light that gets shone into your eyes, the tighter you clamp them shut. Textbook bigot
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>>2811239
Deuteronomy 10:17
"For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
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>>2811241
what if theres more than four?
or we all have to believe you as the philosophical and spiritual authoritative of the world?
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>>2811242
that's your uneducated opinion.
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>>2811247
Well you explain away everything that doesn't agree with your beliefs as nonsense, that's the first red flag
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>>2811244
Take a stance, and I'll easily classify you into one of the four. Go ahead.
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>>2811243
Aren't prayers just bribes? Oh wait you're correct on that one. God doesn't answer prayers. Mind blown
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>>2811247
You're following a book that was created by uneducated people of two thousand years ago who had no idea what they were witnessing and could not even interpret it properly. Said book was then misinterpreted, mistranslated, had parts omitted, had other parts completely re-written by self-absorbed narcissistic kings, and misinterpreted all over again. All over the course of twenty long, uneducated centuries. Just keep that in mind.
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>>2811252
God does care about some people, just not you, since u rejected his love sacrifice and instead, think your smarter than him and his Bible. u have a bias and anger towards Him .
you aren't clever or orginal. theres plenty of instances in the Bible that describe ppl like you.
you wind up in hell.
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>>2811260
thats your uneducated, biased , non-critical , unsourced assessment.
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>>2811263
And the eyes clamp tighter than ever before
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>>2811254
no.
and let me point out, this thread wasn't meant to be a punching bag for the ignorant and juvenile.
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>>2811261
So he's a nice guy as long as I submit to him, but if not he inflicts pain and suffering upon me? Sounds like you worship an Islamic Caliphate, my dude
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>>2811265
Men reject the bible because it contradicts science and human progress. When we believe in religion, we murder each other in its name. When we believe in science, we go to the moon. Science works, religion does not.
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>>2811263
> King James Bible
> King

No youre right, the bible was never re-written to fulfill someone's agenda. In two thousand years that is completely impossible. Kek
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>>2811266
underage posters , highschool level logic and angst isnt' gonna save you from eternal damnation.
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>>2811268
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/bibleorg.html


With all of the massive manuscript evidence you would think there would be massive discrepancies - just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% (5) of the text (compared to only 95% for the Iliad). Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. A few words have been changed or added. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., none would alter basic Christian doctrine). Most Bibles include the options as footnotes when there are discrepancies. How could there be such accuracy over a period of 1,400 years of copying? Two reasons: The scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors. 2) The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God's word so we would not be deceived. The Mormons, theological liberals as well as other cults and false religions such as Islam that claim the Bible has been tampered with are completely proven false by the extensive, historical manuscript evidence.

;)
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>>2811273
That's just your uneducated, biased opinion.
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>>2811279
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>>2811023
wtf is that runescape language.
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>>2811271
But you do realize that people murder each other in the name of your religion, right? Furthermore, you actually believe that if you don't follow the bible to a T that you would be hopelessly lost, off sodomizing and generally sinning with impunity? You must have a feeble mind to not be able to lead a good life without the word of the bible constantly ringing in your ear. On the other hand, I am perfectly capable of leading a good, altruistic life without having to believe in any specific religion. If God were able to look down on the good life I lead and the positive impact I have on fellow humans around me, but see that I have my doubts about him which stem from actual evidence and reasoning, and still be able to send me to hell because I don't give him attention, well that God is a petty selfish god and I would not want to worship him anyways. That God would most certainly be a false one for inflicting punishment on good people.
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>>2811287
>well that God is a petty selfish god and I would not want to worship him anyways


there we have it.
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Conclusion: Religious people of all kinds don't need discussions. They need therapy.
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>>2811023
מה לעזאזל OP
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>>2811413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caaPxrSAtGU
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what ?>>2811197
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>>2811480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
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>>2811498
Funny and true your in for a shitstorm u pagan
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>>2811289
You only worship your god because he threatens you with eternal punishment if you do not. That is not a god, that is a dictator. You are afraid of him.
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>>2812149
why don't you go about , flagrantly breaking all the laws of your land?

yet you have no concern for the just and complete judgement of your eternal soul, by the ONE who see's all , and knows the motives of the heart?
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Christianity stems from Judaism. Judaism is the direct product of Caananite religion. Caananite religion was influenced by both Mesopotamian and Egyptian religions. If you worship god, you are worshipping a truncated version of their polytheistic beliefs. You actually have no idea what you even believe in. The Egyptians and Mesopotamians believed that their gods were actually people that came from elsewhere in space. They gave us knowledge of the local cosmos and technology like farming equipment, so that we could carry out their directive. Some were good, but others were quite evil overlords. You believe in aliens and you don't even know it.
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>>2812154
Because I'm not a moron and like I said before, I don't need a multi thousand year old text around to remind me how to behave like a human being. You apparently do, which is sad.
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>>2812157
God has been around much longer than thousands of years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqUTMHl9Cs
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>>2812165
That's not what we're arguing about. Don't straw man to save face.
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>>2811398
Funny how he calls people uneducated and biased, but when facts that contradict his beliefs are presented to him he either dismisses them as nonsense or completely ignores them altogether
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>>2812184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah0uydqMYhE
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>>2811212
>>2811213

Oh God the 16 year old Atheist cringe
You're making me relive my highschool atheist phase please stop
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>>2811023
This thread is fucking cancerous. God doesn't exist you stupid fucks. You believe some hairy midget will keep you safe? All religion is, is an excuse for sandniggers to blow themselves up
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>>2812231
>God doesn't exist

because you say so?
or do you have further evidence to explain the existence of all that is and the absence of complete eternal nothingness ?
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>>2812231
>fucks
it's a plural...as in (stupid fuck), as only the original poster isn't agnostic...
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7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. 8The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.…
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>>2811203
Holy shit, I don't mind if you're religious or not, but did you really have to plaster some anon's thread with atheist stuff? I mean seriously, he was just posting images and minding his own business.

This is /hr/ not /pol/
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>>2812912
i actually dont' mind answering ppls questions and concerns.
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>>2811284
It's Hebrew.
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Take this shit to /int/ nobody gives a shit about your god Mohammed
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>>2813086
Celebrity fag¿ carrot»donkey» ass bumping thread... u idiot
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>>2813092
Lol you fag it was saged if you can't tell that you shouldn't be here either
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>>2813095
Mobile Wahoo my bad xx
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אני יהודי
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>>2813291
... and a woman
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>>2813304
Why do you think I'm a woman?
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>>2813387
אני יהודי (I'm Jewish) why wouldn't you be one
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Ecclesiastes 7:26
Bible Rank: 8,119
I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare. NIV
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◄ Proverbs 20:2 ►Parallel VersesNew International VersionA king's wrath strikes terror like the roar of a lion; those who anger him forfeit their lives.
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The Parable of the Ten Virgins
25 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
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Psalm 94:23
And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity, and shall cut them off in their own wickedness; yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.
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Psalm 118:10
All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them.
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Psalm 18:39
For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me.
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Psalm 18:38
I have wounded them that they were not able to rise: they are fallen under my feet.
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>>2813291
The Jews and the Law
…27The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the Law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker. 28A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.…
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>>2813291
Invitation to Repentance
…19"Then I said, 'How I would set you among My sons And give you a pleasant land, The most beautiful inheritance of the nations!' And I said, 'You shall call Me, My Father, And not turn away from following Me.' 20"Surely, as a woman treacherously departs from her lover, So you have dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel," declares the LORD. 21A voice is heard on the bare heights, The weeping and the supplications of the sons of Israel; Because they have perverted their way, They have forgotten the LORD their God.…
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18:37I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed

.Psalm 18:41They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the LORD, but he answered them not.


Psalm 18:42Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets.
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>>2811233
How does one hate an illusion?
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>>2813795
you'd make an awful detective.
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>>2813795
by denying his obvious power,
disobeying him, rejecting Christ, and
supposing yourself as and authority over Him.
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Ezekiel 16:30
"How languishing is your heart," declares the Lord GOD, "while you do all these things, the actions of a bold-faced harlot.
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Revelation 21:8 ESV / 17 helpful votes

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
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2 Timothy 3:1-5 ESV / 4 helpful votes

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
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ה הַכְּסִיל חֹבֵק אֶת-יָדָיו, וְאֹכֵל אֶת-בְּשָׂרוֹ.
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ו כִּי-יוֹדֵעַ יְהוָה, דֶּרֶךְ צַדִּיקִים; וְדֶרֶךְ רְשָׁעִים תֹּאבֵד.
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א בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.
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ב טוֹב לָלֶכֶת אֶל-בֵּית-אֵבֶל, מִלֶּכֶת אֶל-בֵּית מִשְׁתֶּה--בַּאֲשֶׁר, הוּא סוֹף כָּל-הָאָדָם; וְהַחַי, יִתֵּן אֶל-לִבּוֹ.
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י רֵאשִׁית חָכְמָה, יִרְאַת יְהוָה-- שֵׂכֶל טוֹב, לְכָל-עֹשֵׂיהֶם;
תְּהִלָּתוֹ, עֹמֶדֶת לָעַד.
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יג כִּי-דֹרֵשׁ דָּמִים, אוֹתָם זָכָר; לֹא-שָׁכַח, צַעֲקַת עניים (עֲנָוִים).
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17 The LORD hath made Himself known, He hath executed judgment, the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah
יח יָשׁוּבוּ רְשָׁעִים לִשְׁאוֹלָה: כָּל-גּוֹיִם, שְׁכֵחֵי אֱלֹהִים.
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>>2811413
חשבתי שאני היחיד
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you lose.

God wins.
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>>2814476
זה בטח נדיר למצוא ישראלים בבורדים כאלה אחרים.
באיזה ת'רדים אתה גולש בורד הזה?
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>>2814642
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AND ON TOP OF THIS YOU MUST ALSO GO TO HELL FOREVER FOR LYING,PRIDEFULNESS DISOBEYING GOD AND MOCKING HIM, WHILE HE IS ALLOWED TO GO TO HEAVEN FOREVER THE BEST FRIENDS WITH GOD?? !!!
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◄ Proverbs 19:21 ►
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Many are the plans in a person's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.
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God loves to talk to you . let us listen .
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וַיַּעֲזֹב אֶת-עֲצַת הַזְּקֵנִים, אֲשֶׁר יְעָצֻהוּ; וַיִּוָּעַץ, אֶת-הַיְלָדִים אֲשֶׁר גָּדְלוּ אִתּוֹ, אֲשֶׁר הָעֹמְדִים, לְפָנָיו. 8 But he forsook the counsel of the old men which they had given him, and took counsel with the young men that were grown up with him, that stood before him.
ט וַיֹּאמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם, מָה אַתֶּם נוֹעָצִים, וְנָשִׁיב דָּבָר, אֶת-הָעָם הַזֶּה--אֲשֶׁר דִּבְּרוּ אֵלַי, לֵאמֹר, הָקֵל
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Jeremiah 3:8 ►
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I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery.


וָאֵ֗רֶא כִּ֤י עַל־כָּל־אֹדֹות֙ אֲשֶׁ֤ר נִֽאֲפָה֙ מְשֻׁבָ֣ה יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל שִׁלַּחְתִּ֕יהָ וָאֶתֵּ֛ן אֶת־סֵ֥פֶר כְּרִיתֻתֶ֖יהָ אֵלֶ֑יהָ וְלֹ֨א יָֽרְאָ֜ה בֹּֽגֵדָ֤ה יְהוּדָה֙ אֲחֹותָ֔הּ וַתֵּ֖לֶךְ וַתִּ֥זֶן גַּם־הִֽיא׃
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Jeremiah 3New International Version (NIV)

3 “If a man divorces his wife
and she leaves him and marries another man,
should he return to her again?
Would not the land be completely defiled?
But you have lived as a prostitute with many lovers—
would you now return to me?”
declares the Lord.
2 “Look up to the barren heights and see.
Is there any place where you have not been ravished?
By the roadside you sat waiting for lovers,
sat like a nomad in the desert.
You have defiled the land
with your prostitution and wickedness.
3 Therefore the showers have been withheld,
and no spring rains have fallen.
Yet you have the brazen look of a prostitute;
you refuse to blush with shame.
4 Have you not just called to me:
‘My Father, my friend from my youth,
5 will you always be angry?
Will your wrath continue forever?’
This is how you talk,
but you do all the evil you can.”
Unfaithful Israel
6 During the reign of King Josiah, the Lord said to me, “Have you seen what faithless Israel has done? She has gone up on every high hill and under every spreading tree and has committed adultery there. 7 I thought that after she had done all this she would return to me but she did not, and her unfaithful sister Judah saw it. 8 I gave faithless Israel her certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries. Yet I saw that her unfaithful sister Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery. 9 Because Israel’s immorality mattered so little to her, she defiled the land and committed adultery with stone and wood. 10 In spite of all this, her unfaithful sister Judah did not return to me with all her heart, but only in pretense,” declares the Lord.

11 The Lord said to me, “Faithless Israel is more righteous than unfaithful Judah. 12 Go, proclaim this message toward the north:
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“‘Return, faithless Israel,’ declares the Lord,
‘I will frown on you no longer,
for I am faithful,’ declares the Lord,
‘I will not be angry forever.
13 Only acknowledge your guilt—
you have rebelled against the Lord your God,
you have scattered your favors to foreign gods
under every spreading tree,
and have not obeyed me,’”
declares the Lord.
14 “Return, faithless people,” declares the Lord, “for I am your husband. I will choose you—one from a town and two from a clan—and bring you to Zion. 15 Then I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will lead you with knowledge and understanding.
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>>2814642
אני קצת מכור
לרב b
אבל גם wsg
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>>2818531
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>>2818531
התכוונתי לת'רדים לא בורדים.
תרדים פה
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>>2818559
ו וְהֶאֱמִן, בַּיהוָה; וַיַּחְשְׁבֶהָ לּוֹ, צְדָקָה.
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>>2818559
אמונת הפעולה
עכשיו אמונה היא ביטחון במה שאנחנו מקווים עבור והבטחה על מה שאנחנו לא רואים. 2 זה מה הקדמון היו לשבח עבור.

על ידי אמונה אנו מבינים כי היקום נוצר את מצוות האלוהים, כך מה שנראה לא נעשה מתוך מה שהיה גלוי.

על ידי אמונת הבל הביא אלוהים הנפקה טובה יותר קין עשה. על ידי אמונה שהוא זכה לשבחים כמו צדיק, כאשר אלוהים דיבר גם הנפקות שלו. ועל ידי אמונת ההבל עדיין מדבר, למרות שהוא מת.
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>>2818583
>>2818576
>>2818559
>>2818531
Fucking sandniggers
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>>2818559
rekt
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>>2818586
and i had sex with your wife
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Thanks for these.
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>>2818925
which is ur favorite?
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I havent read the whole bible yet, but psalms is probably my favorite book.

I hope to repent and earn the Lords favor once more.

Thanks again, God bless.
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>>2819481
Psalm 51New King James Version (NKJV)

A Prayer of Repentance
To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David when Nathan the prophet went to him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba.

51 Have mercy upon me, O God,
According to Your lovingkindness;
According to the multitude of Your tender mercies,
Blot out my transgressions.
2 Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity,
And cleanse me from my sin.
3 For I acknowledge my transgressions,
And my sin is always before me.
4 Against You, You only, have I sinned,
And done this evil in Your sight—
That You may be found just when You speak,[a]
And blameless when You judge.
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.
6 Behold, You desire truth in the inward parts,
And in the hidden part You will make me to know wisdom.
7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean;
Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
8 Make me hear joy and gladness,
That the bones You have broken may rejoice.
9 Hide Your face from my sins,
And blot out all my iniquities.
10 Create in me a clean heart, O God,
And renew a steadfast spirit within me.
11 Do not cast me away from Your presence,
And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.
12 Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,
And uphold me by Your generous Spirit.
13 Then I will teach transgressors Your ways,
And sinners shall be converted to You.
14 Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O God,
The God of my salvation,
And my tongue shall sing aloud of Your righteousness.
15 O Lord, open my lips,
And my mouth shall show forth Your praise.
16 For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it;
You do not delight in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart—
These, O God, You will not despise.
18 Do good in Your good pleasure to Zion;
Build the walls of Jerusalem.
19 Then You shall be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness,
With burnt offering and whole burnt offering;
Then they shall offer bulls on Your altar.
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>>2819481
>>2818925

you can post 2 u know?
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>>2818586
>>2818677
faggots
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>>2820131
Awkmed
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lets take some time to do these
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lets not forget why the world celebrates a real historical miracle every year!
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>>2821859
Rejoicing in Trials
…11For the sun rises with scorching heat and withers the plant; its flower falls and its beauty is lost. So too, the rich man will fade away in the midst of his pursuits. 12Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love Him. 13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.…
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Psalm 2New International Version (NIV)

Psalm 2
1 Why do the nations conspire[a]
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth rise up
and the rulers band together
against the Lord and against his anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break their chains
and throw off their shackles.”
4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.
5 He rebukes them in his anger
and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,
6 “I have installed my king
on Zion, my holy mountain.”
7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree:

He said to me, “You are my son;
today I have become your father.
8 Ask me,
and I will make the nations your inheritance,
the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You will break them with a rod of iron[b];
you will dash them to pieces like pottery.”
10 Therefore, you kings, be wise;
be warned, you rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the Lord with fear
and celebrate his rule with trembling.
12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry
and your way will lead to your destruction,
for his wrath can flare up in a moment.
Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
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2 מדוע זעם עובדי האלילים, והעם לדמיין דבר לשווא?

2 מלכי הארץ הציבו לעצמם, והשליטים להתייעץ יחד, נגד לורד, ונגד שלו משח לאמר

3 תן לנו לשבור הלהקות שלהם לגזרים, ומשליכים המייתרים שלהם מאתנו.

הוא 4 היושב במרומים יצחקו: ה 'תהא אותם בלעג.

5 ואז הוא יהיה לדבר אלהם בחמתו, ו לעצבן אותם מורת רוחו הכואבת.

6 עם זאת יש לי להגדיר המלך שלי על גבעת קדשי ציון.

7 אכריז את הגזירה: יהוה ויאמר אליי, אתה הבנים שלי; זה היום יש לי begotten לך.

8 שאל אותי, ואני אתן לך את הכופרים על ירושת נפשך, ואת החלקים הרחוקים ביותר של כדור הארץ על החזקת עמך.

9 הדיבר לשבור אותם עם מוט ברזל; ועשיתי לנפץ אותם לחתיכות כמו כלי חרס.

10 להיות חכם ועתה, מלכים אתם O: להיות הורה, שופטים אתם האדמה.

11 לשרת את ה 'ביראה, ואת וגילו ברעדה.

12 נשיקת הבן, שמא לכעוס, ואתם נכחדים מן הדרך, כאשר החרון שלו נדלק אבל קצת. אשרי כולם כי שמו את מבטחם בו.
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>>2811023
WOW, this is awesome!! So many great verses! So many good songs!

The enemy tried to slide this thread hard, but he that is in us is greater than he that is in the world.

"And as you knew this first, that in the end of days, scoffers would come who scoff while they walk according to their own lusts"

2 Peter 3

HaShem is God!!!
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Psalm 22King James Version (KJV)

22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
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16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.

20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

23 Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

28 For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations.

29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
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ב אֱלֹהִים, בְּאָזְנֵינוּ שָׁמַעְנוּ-- אֲבוֹתֵינוּ סִפְּרוּ-לָנוּ:
פֹּעַל פָּעַלְתָּ בִימֵיהֶם, בִּימֵי קֶדֶם.
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>>2823204
to be honest... "He" sounds like a bit of a dick.
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>>2823282

הזמנה לנזקקים
... 7Let הרשע לזנוח את דרכו והאיש הרשע מחשבותיו; ולתת לו לחזור יהוה, והוא יצטרך חמלה עליו, וכדי אלוהינו, משום שהוא ישחית חנינה בשפע. 8 "עבור המחשבות שלי הם לא המחשבות שלך, גם הוא דרכיך הדרכים שלי," מצהיר יהוה. 9 "עבור כאשר השמים גבוהים יותר מאשר כדור הארץ, אז הדרכים שלי גבוהות דרכיך ואת מחשבותיי מאשר את המחשבות שלך. ...
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לקבלת שמכיר The Mind of the LORD, כי הוא יהיה להורות לו? אבל יש לנו את המוח של ישו.
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Morality for people who don't care enough to think.
Your god will punish 60 years of sin with literally endless punishment, but be referred to as the embodiment of love.
Take that yoke on your shoulders because you're as thoughtless as a beast
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>>2823354
free will <3
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OY VEY
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no more bible verses???
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>>2825244
http://www.obeygod.com/itry.html
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>>2826246
http://www.mightyisthelord.com/player/685
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https://www.intouch.org/read/magazine/daily-devotions/walking-in-the-spirit
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So, what part says I am allowed to do whatever I want and blame everyone I don't like for all of the worlds problems?
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>>2811023
Is this a reference to lawyers?
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