High-res Trump thread

>>2661327
Orangutans are much smarter than Trump.

>>2661297
2016 , the year americans were seduced by the word tremendous.

you are a laughingstock nation with a gun..

the God Emperor

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>>2661621
>t. Mohamed

>>2661297
dude looks like a rotted mango with overgrown pubes on his head. anyone who actually supports
this idiot must be brain damaged.

>>2661696
Oh fuck. That's terrifying.

>>2661703
>>2661621
>>2661327
this is not /pol/ you fucinkg retard commies, stay on topic or leave.

cucks

Very low energy thread. I've seen faster threads on /po/. Sad!

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The laydies love him, though.

>>2661879
Somebody post the young sluts with big feet

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>>2661621
>>2661703

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

>Likewise, although about 44 percent of Trump supporters have college degrees, according to exit polls.... higher than the 33 percent of non-Hispanic white adults, or the 29 percent of American adults overall, who have at least a bachelor’s degree.

>The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000,..... well above the national median household income of about $56,000. It’s also higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters, which is around $61,000 for both.

tl;dr - Trump supporters are better educated and earn more money that the average.

>>2661703

With the command of grammar and punctuation that you have, how could you possibly be wrong?

>>2661744
But Trump is the /pol/ embodied in real life.

>>2662005
>Likewise, although about 44 percent of Trump supporters have college degrees, according to exit polls — lower than the 50 percent for Cruz supporters or 64 percent for Kasich supporters

So compared to other previous candidates in the field his supporters are less educated. No surprise there.

Also Drumpf's supporters making slightly more money then the national median household income doesn't mean that his supporters are more successful. It could easily be that his supporters are simply older. The longer you work at a job the more you are paid. So it could just be that he mostly has old uninformed senile idiots supporting him.

>>2662284

My wife's son approves of this post.

>>2662284
>unironically calling him Drumpf
It's weird to visit boards that normies also visit. I sometimes forget that redditors use this site too.

>>2661584
What does that say about all the people who support him?

>>2661558
That is one handsome man.

>>2661621
Sorry that you have to go back, but you should not have snuck across the border in the first place. Come in through the front dor next time.

>>2661584
Derr hurr hes dumber than an ape... Trump is literally a genius with an Ivy Leauge education. You are the one who is a dipshit.

>>2662366
who says he wants to eliminate the national debt, bankrupt the economy to arrange " a new deal"....he's a retarded conman...his audience are pathetic and if america elects him (as a reaction to having a black president) then you deserve to go down in flames

>>2661584
Black's can't even read

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>>2662284

So needing to believe that "above average earners" and "above average college degrees" still means dumb that you are will willingly make yourself sound THIS stupid.

Well done have a participation ribbon.

>>2662005

He has some fantastic hair gymnastics going on there.

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>>2661584
>>2662371


I do hope the irony of calling a multi-Billionaire Ivy League graduate and New Yorks most succssful real-estate mogul "stupid" is not lost on you.

>>2662428
>Black's

>>2662546
He has a minimum IQ of 157, he can only be so smart right?

>>2662576
Sorry, spellcheck on my phone is created by the Jews let me rephrase,
>BLACKS can't even read

>>2662546
youre assuming that any of what he says about himself is true....or is the word trump actually worth 3 billion to you

lmao@the asshurt Teflon Don inspires in libtard normies

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>>2662653

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>>2662660

>Good brain, best words.

The guy can't talk for three minutes without lying.

Him and his zealous supporters an embarrassment.

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>>2662719
So tell me, anon - how does your wife's boyfriend's semen taste?

>>2662773
>lolcuck

What the Trump supporter thinks is clever

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>>2662775

go to the cuckshed, Carl. Your wife needs her private time with Tyrone.

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>>2662005
wonderful, il ignore the evidence of countless other sources across all media and the evidence my own senses because you supplied a link to a website.

>>2662360
swing and a miss you predictable fuck

>>2662546
do you think that all these billionaires are simply warder working and smarter than the rest of humanity...if trump had invested his inheritance instead of becoming a yuge businessman he would be worth more than he is today... he lost more than he won...

anyone whose policy is to build a wall that cannot be built (unless you dont mind gifting large tracts of land to mexico ) and intentionally bankrupt the U.S economy is either insane or stupid.... best possible outcome is that he is simply conning you idiots

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>>2662824

>il ignore the evidence of countless other sources across all media and the evidence my own senses because you supplied a link to a website.

It's Nate Silver's website. The same Nate Silver that liberals love with a proper survey not some huff-po "it's true cos I've got a fake anecdote". But yeah ditch the statistics in favour of liberal shrieking, wailing and cherry picking. Never a smart move. But go on....

>do you think that all these billionaires are simply warder working and smarter than the rest of humanity...if trump had invested his inheritance instead of becoming a yuge businessman he would be worth more than he is today... he lost more than he won...

Except he's substantially richer by $billions than all his brother and sisters that inherited the same amount of money? Again where do you get these "Liberal facts" from> hillaryclinton.com or your ass? same difference I suppose

>anyone whose policy is to build a wall that cannot be built

The truth is almost all of the wall can be built and the small parts where a literal wall can't be built ( less than a mile a piece) can have their security enhanced and be patrolled much more easily. Saying the wall isn't viable is a strawman akin to saying not all people who cross the border illegally are end up commiting crime therefore none of them are criminal.

The more I see arguments like yours the more sure I am people like you and the politicians you support need to be kept out of power so your "feels over facts" approach don't get in the way of the policies america needs.

TL;DR - Vote Trump. MAGA.

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>>2661584
>>2661621
>>2661703
>>2662284
>>2662343
>>2662371
>>2662719
>>2662775
>>2662824


Mmmmm. Salty

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We have the best daughters

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>>2662936

Don't we have the best daughters


Ivanka thread:)
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>>2662824
>muh inheritance
Get those shitty boilerplate talking points to the Jon Oliver video comment section you got them from. Nobody cares.

>>2662852
Trump followers are the biggest "feels over facts" crowd anyone has ever seen.

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He's gonna be Prez and there's nothing you can post to stop it.

>>2663155
you mean extremely important and telling facts explaining the situation...

>>2663233
thats like a child saying, "im going to drink this bleach in the brightly coloured bottle and no one can stop me".

ok then, good , im glad, i hope you enjoy the taste

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>>2663157
>Muh opinion > surveys( ignores FACTs for feelings)
>Ignores comparing trumps sibling inheritance( ignores FACTs for feelings)
>strawmans the wall (ignores FACTs for feelings)

Then says:
>Trump followers are the biggest "feels over facts" crowd

You do realise you're not making a very good case for yourself here ?

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>>2663245
You're so mad.

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>>2663233
>>2663233

Yeah, the liberals have already used up all their ammo and they've only made Trump stronger. Trump hasn't got started on Hillary Clinton properly because he'd prefer to defeat Sanders. Once Hillary starts losing prepare for an involutary full body cringe as she tries to imitate Trump.

Hillary can't MAGA

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>>2661297
Trump is literally the human version of smug pepe.

>>2661621
enjoy your nation's slow and inevitable conversion to islam you comically self-unaware cuck

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Can anyone find a trump sign in big gold letters not attached to a building

>>2662589
It's 10 billion

>>2664178
no, he says it's ten billion. Recent reports show it's closer to 3. Tim O' Brian said that in his biography of trump, and then trump sued him. Then the case was immediately dismissed, because trump is an idiot who says whatever makes him look good, true or not.

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Make America Great Again!

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>>2664223
>mfw

I just kinda feel sorry for you merkins. Not only do you have to deal with a shockingly outdated voting system, but Trump or Clinton are your choices? That's brutal.

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Highest unfavorable rating of any presidential candidate in US history. He polls lower than cockroaches and foot fungus.

I don't hate him, but jesus christ, what an ugly dude.

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>>2664316
>tumblr

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>>2661297
OP Didn't specify which Trump...

Cant believe people find her attractive..

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>>2664316

Clinton :

UNfavourable = 55.2
favourable =41.2
Overall: -14

Trump:
UNfavourable = 57.2
favourable = 38.9
Overall: -18.3

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating/edit#!minpct=10&maxpct=70&mindate=2015-06-01&maxdate=2016-05-23&smoothing=moderate&showpoints=yes&showsplines=yes&hiddenpollsters=&hiddensubpops=&partisanship=S,P,N&parties=D,R,I,N&selected=favorable,unfavorable&fudge=1

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating

yeah I agree. Clinton is so well like it's no wonder she is on a reasuringly comfortable -14 while Trump is miles behind on terrible -18.3. Clinton has an unassailable 4.3 lead on trump ( with only a 5 point margin of error ). Remember people have yet to hear a single bad thing about Trump from the mainstream media. I think Trump should just give up now, there's simply no way he can make up that 4.3 lead.

>>2664362

Ivanka has her own thread:

>>2650338

Not that you would be interested. Before you vote remember Hillary has publicly opposed gay marriage many times over the years.

>>2664362
She's very attractive. Byutiful.

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>>2664362

>Defaming the God Emperor's chosen child.

>>2651686

>>2664452
B-b-b-ut Hillary!

You're the same crowd who once thought Sarah Palin was wonderful, brilliant and the ultimate panacea to all the country's problems.

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>>2664538

And you're the same crowd who once thought Hillary Clinton was wonderful, brilliant and the ultimate panacea to all the country's problems.

We've wised-up, have you?

>>2661297
Oh good, orange faggot douches are my fetish

>>2664452
Holly shit if you're thinking about voting for this faggot clown, please consider killing yourself first

>>2661621
It's true, Trump's rhetoric is anti-intellectual and anti basic respect for critical thought

>>2662005
A college degree doesn't mean you're an enlightened thinker these days. And wealthy people support the man who plays a greedy egotistical businessman, no surprise there.

>>2662823
Most people are too uninformed to recognize that so many of the actions that Trump calls for are not unprecedented in recent American history, true. Most people don't have the time or energy to spend hours on the internet fact-checking and lurking 4Chan. However, I think that deep down it's more so the undeniably yuge EMPHASIS that Trump is placing on those things, such as building a wall, deporting swaths of Mexicans, his proposed actions against Muslims- and the fact that these are the points that really get his supporters riled up- that is disconcerting and reminiscent of darker episodes of history and sides of human nature.

>>2662938
We love our daughters.

Oh god. I just opened this thread for the delicious butt-hurt. When he becomes president...oh my god

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>>2665696
Citation needed

Pro-tip - niether "Bill Maher", "John Oliver", "The Daily Show" , "The Daily Kos", "Huff-po" or "muh Feelz" count.

>>2665698
>A college degree doesn't mean you're an enlightened thinker these days

You're only smart if you agree with my liberal viewpoint.txt

>>2665704
Muh "end illegal immigration and have security" = Hitler

Trump wants to get climate change deniers in his office once he gets elected.

USA 2016. A fucking joke.

MURICA NUMBER ONE first world nation that wants to retrogress instead of get better.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

Have a good one, dumb fucks.

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>>2665816

I shall swim in the tears of his election victory.

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>>2665853
>>2665816

A Trump Victory would be terrible for the enviroment.
All those liberal tears are bound to raise the sea level.

>>2665892
I know this is just a prank bro, but there are people like you and those people should be put in jail.

>>2665895

Wow, You sound like a fun, even minded person.

I bet you're the life and soul of the party. A really shitty party that no one likes or wants to attend but the life and soul all the same. :)

>>2665919
k bro

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>>2666069

I think it's weird that people are looking at Trump to clean up Washington, when the only one that would seem to want to do that is Bernie.

But that's just my eurocuck opinion.

>>2666171
its a lazy and uneducated opinion based purely on the thought that someone is an "outsider" if they haven't been in the political system and somehow that will enable them to be more successful

>>2666171

I cant tell if this is b8 or not

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>>2666171
>>2664538
>B-b-b-ut Hillary!

No ones running unopposed.

Donald
Hillary
Pick one

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>>2666648
I have taken a close and thorough look at Donald Trump and I've decided to unquestioningly accept whoever opposes him.

>>2665824

>Pro-tip - niether "Bill Maher", "John Oliver", "The Daily Show" , "The Daily Kos", "Huff-po" or "muh Feelz" count.

Seriously this is where some people get their news from. They consider these sources "trustworthy".


http://www.indiana.edu/~rcapub/v29n2/nojoke.shtml


While the political humor of Jon Stewart and his Comedy Central show make the headlines and blog sites regularly, Fox’s study is among the first to examine how comedic shows compare with network newscasts as a source of political information. Fox was prompted to do the research by the findings of a 2004 Pew Research Center survey. The nationwide survey revealed that the percentage of under-30 respondents who relied regularly on comedy programs like The Daily Show for campaign information was the same as the percentage of under-30 respondents who relied on the TV network evening news. "Given the growing number of young voters who say they expect The Daily Show with Jon Stewart to fulfill their political information needs, it begs the question as to whether those needs can be satisfied with that show," Fox says in her study.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/10/jon-stewart-more-trusted-msnbc-poll_n_5479859.html

>>2666658
Interesting. Since you're referencing Pew research, multiple studies, including that of Pew, found that Daily Show viewers are more informed than Fox News viewers by a wide margin. Fox News viewers consistently rate as the least informed audience of any news outlet. Less informed, in fact, than people who watch no news at all.

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed

http://www.people-press.org/2007/04/15/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

>>2665824
>Citation needed
You don't need to look any further than one of his vaguely-worded speeches, where he uses words like "tremendous" and "great" instead of the statements of substance other candidates have provided in the past, even if those statements are lies, they cater to the discerning voter. Trump caters, on the other hand, to the absolute lowest common denominator, feeding on American's (white Americans, specifically) desperation and fear.

>>2665824
>You're only smart if you agree with my liberal viewpoint.txt
A developed sense of intellectual curiosity and basis of cold facts has nothing to do with liberalism or conservatism. Our country was founded by persons of many ideologies, but one thing they shared in common is that they were children of the enlightenment.

The false idea that to be intellectual- to be enlightened- is to be liberal could spell the end of the American Experiment as imagined by our founders.

>>2665824
>Muh "end illegal immigration and have security" = Hitler
That's a completely hollow rebuttal. I mean yes if we must jump to Hitler or other strongman dictatorial figures, there are definitely some parallels. If you can't see them you are either stupid, in denial, or trolling.

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>>2667000

Have you actually heard him speak in an interview? Look, there is a difference between how you say things at a rally, how you say things in a debate and how you get the issues across in a political interview. If you watch him in a political interview he seems, when I have seen him, to understand the issues well. He talks very well in political interviews. Are his rallies biosterous, entertaining and full of slogans? Yes. Does that mean that's his only method? no. The fact that he knows how to work a crowd shouldn't count against him. If you think he's an idiot or appealing to idiots watch a proper political interview with him.

Yes there are candidates that speak in longer winding speeches BUT often it's just either posing ( "I know the issues", "I can regurgitate the latest talking points from Washington Post or NY Times" ) or a carefully crafted non committment so that later they can go back and say - Well I may have said A but if you listen to my speech I also spoke of the benefits of B. THIS bullshit, this "Washington waffle" is why people don't trust politicians. Voters want someone who says what they mean and will do what they promise. This is why people go for TRUMP. If you're not at least slightly disillusioned with what candidates promise vs what they deliver then some would say you're not really paying attention.

Pre-empting the strawman - Do we know Trump will deliver? No, he's never been in political power before. Does he sound like he will deliver, or at leasts understand the importance of delivering? Yes absolutely.

Look Trump is a risk, he's the unknown but the other option is keep on with how things have been going. I recon four years of a Trump presidency is a risk worth taking and calling me stupid or racist or whatever won't change that.

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>>2667011

No. The idea that making people a second class citizen and then eventually systematically and deliberately killing those people for no other reason than they belong to a certain race, and doing something about illegal immigration are portrayed as parallel is quite frankly laughable. The fact that people are willing to make the comparison shows you how immature the debate around immigration has become.

>>2666858
Part 1 of 2 ( sorry )

If you're curiuos here's why daily show listeners fair better.

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/

Firstly "The Daily Show" group has as a lot of "people who are really into the news" and are more likely to watch both news and news satire. Strangely the study did NOT survey for watches the "daily show only" BUT instead uses "multinomial logistic regression" to decide this latter. I suspect this may make false assumptions about the sample and sample distribution.

This study is a simple 8 question survey 4 domestic 4 foreign. Two of the domestic questions involve having a knowledge of who won specific republican primaries. The daily show is going to tell you who won so that they can make fun of them. This isn't the same as being properly informed on all domestic issues. Also my understanding is that fox/most news is very domestic in focus. Giving domestic and foreign news equal wieghting is not going to produce a realistic overall picture.

8 questions, especially ones that are based on knowing about temporary and not highly relevant details is not really the bases of being "knowledgable".

More importantly there is substantial evidence that there is something wrong with the study. If a study shows that watching CNN, MSNBC, FOX are all (when accounting for the 3% margin of error ) as knowledgable or less knowledgable as those who watch "No News at all" you should really be skeptical. Especially when who watches what news is decided with "multinomial logistic regression" and curiously NOT a simple survey of primary news sources and how often watched.

cont..

>>2667692
Part 2 of 2 ( sorry again )

http://www.people-press.org/2007/04/15/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

A substantial amount of the survery involves recognising individuals rather than focusing on institutions. So it's hardly suprising that a comedy show whose comedy comes from lampooning individuals scores highly.


They both of course suffer from tester bias where by the very nature of the questions they choose to select cannot be called "unbiased".

Lastly there is no peer review for either.

inb4 - u saying fox isn't biased. err no just the studies seem badly done to me and are not worth basing much on.

TL;DR Both studies are not peer reviewed, both have a very narrow range of what constitutes "knowledgable", one uses statistical interpretation as opposed simple and better survey questions, with questions quite possible biased towards knowing individuals involved rather than ideas, institutions, ideaology, policy direction etc.

nb - I understand probably no one will read this.

>>2667488
Why does Trump pander to bigots?

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Only 3% of Trumps statements are rated as true.

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"When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the course of 4.6 hours of speeches, they found that he lied, on average, once every five minutes. When Huffington Post catalogued his lies over the course of just one town hall event, they came up with 71 lies."

>>2667825
Why is everyone you disagree with a bigot?

Is Trump some sort of catharsis figure for America?

>>2667490
>making people a second class citizen and then eventually systematically and deliberately killing those people for no other reason than they belong to a certain race

Hitler wasn't promising any of this in his campaign speeches either. But you've clearly missed something here. We live in a Post World War II reality, a literal Hitler could never be elected in America or other areas of the Western world, even in the furthest right European countries. No one is worried about that, and that is certainly not what I'm arguing. If you thought it was then you've completely missed the point. What I and others are worried about is the CONTEMPORARY equivalent of such figures. History is all about context, and the present is not exempt from that rule.

>>2667696
I read it. Nicely checked.

>>2667854
>Why does Trump pander to bigots?
"Pander to bigots" is a lazy way of saying "places extreme emphasis on building a wall with our neighbor, deporting immigrants and blocking access to groups who just happen to be non-white minorities, agression regarding foreigners and the satisfaction of angry post-9/11 revenge fantasy, delegitimizing the cause of continuing civil rights movements." all of which happen to be things people who are objectively bigoted- such as the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, and NASCAR fans- happen to agree with.

Anyone else remember the other kind of ruler who used "we" all the time?

>>2667488
>Have you actually heard him speak in an interview? Look, there is a difference between how you say things at a rally, how you say things in a debate and how you get the issues across in a political interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4J4n-6Ol1w

"You look at our trade deals- I will make those deals SO good, so fast. And you know what? We'll have great relationships with these countries."

"We don't have anything. We've become a third world country."

"We're selling technology to the world and we don't have it ourselves because... we've spent four trillion plus in the Middle East."

Same shit, different volume. Has control over the questions asked, still uses roundabout replies to circumvent the need to give absolute answers.
Trump in 2003 when asked if he supported going to war with Iraq: “Yeah, I guess so.”

>>2664180
President Trump*

>>2662284
>Drumpf
Back to plebbit, faggot.

>>2667846

> Huffington Post

Back to the cuck shed for you, Carl.

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>>2667942
>CONTEMPORARY equivalent of such figures

If you don't want to be called Hitler 2.0 support open borders.

>>2667946

>places extreme emphasis on building a wall with our neighbor, deporting immigrants and blocking access to groups who just happen to be non-white minorities,

Stopping Illegal immigrants without background checks or due process from entering and deporting illegal immigrants regardless of race.

>agression regarding foreigners and the satisfaction of angry post-9/11 revenge fantasy

Fighting the worst terrorist group in modern times, a group that literally drags people behind cars on the tarmacked road, sets people on fire whilst their still alive in cages, run's over alive people with tanks, keeps slaves and sex slaves against their will, is implimented in mass rapes, slaughters people because they are not the correct religion ( think about all these things for a second, what it would feel like if it happened to you or your family ) have shot up numerous cities and will quite possibly escalate foreign terrorist attacks as they lose ground in Syria and Iraq:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to_ISIL

Fighting against these things is "KKK", "Neo-Nazi" and "anti-civil rights". Is this a sale pitch FOR the KKK/neo-nazi's or AGAINST the KKK/neo-nazi's ?

All you lot do is devalue all the different terms for racism. They are now so all encompassing as to be of little practical use or relevance.

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>>2665824

If you think Arianna Huffington is doing anything other than rubbing her hands with glee thinking about all the clicks she is going to get from anti-trumpers then you are very niave.

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>>2667946

This line of thinking is typical of far-left/srs-style types.

Is a policy more likely to inconvenience brown people than white people? If so it's racist.

If you think controlling immigration is racist then you should try getting into America for work as privileged white european sh*tl0rd( wascsm ). When they ask you the nature of your visit say Business or "Business and Pleasure". If you're lucky after your five hour interview and multiple verfications that your business exists and is legit, you're not planning on doing any work that could take away a job from an american, that this meeting will help american businesses and you have showed that you have more than enough personnal finances with you to support youself for the duration of your trip, have a full itinerary, business references and people in america that can vouch for you will probably but not definately be allowed in probably with a caution. Or if you're Mexican you could just walk over the border.

Border controls are not just there for brown people.

inb4 bullshit like ur saying "oppressed white man" " whites have it worse than mexicans" or other stuff I didn't say/think.

>>2668124
>If you don't want to be called Hitler 2.0 support open borders.

Because closing a 2,000 mile long border (and deporting eleven million people) is at all feasible.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

>Fighting the worst terrorist group in modern times,

OMG terrah!! We're back to this fear mongering again? Bush/Cheney 2.0?

>>2668277
>If you think controlling immigration is racist then you should try...

Strawman McStrawmanface

>>2668277
>This line of thinking is typical of far-left/srs-style types.

If this election ends up proving anything, it will be this:

Party lines are bullshit. Sticking to "muh party" politics is over. Conservative, liberal...both are full of shit ideal spouters in permanent gridlock, getting very little of substance accomplished and people want a change. Your party's imploding and Trump is its reckoning.

>>2668296
That would be the best thing to happen. But you Americans really like to have things in black and white.

>>2668124
>Fighting against these things is "KKK", "Neo-Nazi" and "anti-civil rights". Is this a sale pitch FOR the KKK/neo-nazi's or AGAINST the KKK/neo-nazi's ?

Hahaha I mean if that's your defense, Hitler invaded Stalin's Russia which was as bad as his Germany. Also Trump has promoted bombing civilians as well as torture beyond waterboarding, which certainly devalues our status as the relative good guys.

>>2668124
>Stopping Illegal immigrants without background checks or due process from entering and deporting illegal immigrants regardless of race.

Semantics. Don't deny that these policies target groups that are disliked by many in white America.

"Muh false concept that we exist in a post-racial America because most of our schools have been desegregated for 30 years and a bunch of tolerant people are outspoken"

>>2668007
>>2668118
Butthurt ad hominem or butthurt genetic fallacy? Take your pick

>>2668007
Triggered.

>>2668353
Every war is World War II!

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>>2662284
>Drumpf
>muh anti-German sentiment

>>2662366
>considering transfers legitimate Ivy Leaguers

>>2662546
That appeal to accomplishment though.

>>2668277
>This line of thinking
Serves up strawman argument for but one aspect of the line, claims only Mexicans can walk over the border and implies that excessive border controls themselves aren't the root of the problem, doesn't address ban on Muslims, falsely labels the aforementioned line as synonymous with the far-left in order to validate his opinions.

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>>2668286
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/19/border-patrol-agent-80-percent-illegals-agency-apprehends-released-u-s/

>The vast majority of illegal immigrants the Border Patrol apprehends are released into the U.S., the head of the agents’ union testified before a Senate panel Thursday.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/19/walls-stop-illegals-border-chief/

>The current chief of the U.S. Border Patrol agency, Ronald Vitiello, agreed on Thursday that barriers and walls on the U.S. border do help stop the surging tide of illegal immigration into the United State


Building most of the wall, patrolling the rest and deporting some is perfectly possible and you know it. The capablility to be honest is a terrible thing to waste.

>OMG terrah!! We're back to this fear mongering again? Bush/Cheney 2.0?

ISIS has already struck in europe and america without the authorities being able to stop them and again you know this. There's a difference between fear mongering about something that doesn't exist or won't happen ( bush with WMD ) and being concerned about something that is happening like ISIS.

>>2668470
How about you just end the War on Drugs and deal with the problem that way?

ISIS will be gone within months by the way, they're already losing support since they cannot pay wages and the social support to families etc that they promised as a caliphate. Not that it makes terrorism go away since Middle East will be just as bad without ISIS... but I guess all the petty criminal lost youth looking for excitement and glory won't have a meme group to join in.

>>2668289
>Strawman McStrawmanface

Pointing out that everyone faces immigration checks is a strawman but linking immigration control with KKK and neo-nazis isn't? Do you even know what a strawman is or do you just post it because it sounds like a credible rebuttle?

>>2668357
>Hahaha I mean if that's your defense, Hitler invaded Stalin's Russia which was as bad as his Germany

WUT? so someone who suggests a muslim ban is just as bad as ISIS? out of the many different interpretations of your analogy is this what you're suggesting? you need to take a deep breath and explian yourself better.

>>2668360

>accuses me of semantics and then says the policy "targets" implying, I assume, deliberate targetting, not co-incidental targetting. cos you know AmeriKKKa right.

>"Muh false concept.. blah blah blah ..

never said that and it has nothing to do with immigration control other than "Amerikkka is totally racist therefore every policy is secretly racist "

>and a bunch of tolerant people are outspoken"

WUT

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>>2668408
doesn't undersand what a stawman is
>claims only Mexicans can walk over the border
doesn't say ONLY mexicans can. try again
>implies that excessive border controls themselves aren't the root of the problem

WUT?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_border

> As of 2010, the border is guarded by more than twenty thousand Border Patrol agents, more than at any time in its history.[21] However, they only have "effective control" of less than 700 miles (1,100 km) of the 1,954 miles (3,145 km) of total border,[22] with an ability to actually prevent or stop illegal entries along 129 miles (208 km) of that border

>stop illegal entries along 129 miles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#Number_of_illegal_immigrants

>From 2005 to 2009, the number of people entering the U.S. illegally declined by nearly 67%, according to the Pew Hispanic Center, from 850,000 yearly average in the early 2000s to 300,000

>excessive border controls themselves aren't the root of the problem

Uses subjective quantifier to quantify the cause of a problem they don't define.

>doesn't address ban on Muslims
Doesn't mention it's a *temporary* ban to deal with a terrosist threat from an existant and active terrorist group with worldwide recruitment responsible for 14 deadly terror attacks on western soil ( and more failed attacks) that the security services didn't know anything about.

>falsely labels the aforementioned line as synonymous with the far-left in order to validate his opinions.

NOT sysnonymous with but typical of ( there's a difference ); Not falsely. that line of thinking is most often seen in the far left ; and I wasn't using it to validate my opinion it's was just and observation.

Unless your tactic is to bamboozle people with wtf falsehoods and hope the logic deficit frys their brains,you might have been more correct if you just smashed your keyboard against your head and posted the results.

>>2668357
>Stalin's Russia which was as bad as his Germany
Nice try, Arendt.

Fucking brainless nazi

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>>2668470
>complains about Huffington Post, uses Breitbart as a source.

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Ah, look at all the Hillary shills. How much you faggots getting per post these days? Like working for Correct the Record? Can't imagine it pays much, but I guess a dollar goes a long way I'm Mumbai.

>this thread
I am now a #cruzmissile

>>2668516
yeah, they're both run by kikes

>>2668516
>complains about a left wing "news" source that distorts facts and has been flat on wrong on many occasions
>lel you used a right leaning source, you're just as bad

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>>2668594
>I'm Mumbai
>mfw

>>2668594
>I'm Mumbai
Poo on any beaches lately?

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>>2668624
>right leaning source

Breitbart is the Salon of the right. Except they have less integrity and credibility. They're like Alex Jones smoking meth with Orly Taitz. Just get it over with and go jump the White House fence.

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>>2668516
Lol, where did I complain about Huffington Post? Facts are facts whomever reports them.

>>2668671
>Breitbart Blah blah blah

Cool citation. You're really showing signs of acting with percise rationality. Did you even read the articles? They're direct quotes, in correct context from high ranking officials involved in border security infront of a Senate panel.

Brietbart reports news and opinion with right wing focus. Salon is mainly opinion with a left wing slant. The fact that you can't tell the difference is dissapointing at least and would suggest you think facts have a right wing bias.

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>>2668289

Facts that counter your opinion and bring a different interpration on events is NOT a strawman.


>>2667946
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When did 4chan abandon all logic and reason and become an emotional millenial 20-something girl?

inb4 tautology ad hominem and other shit no one but the poster cares about.

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>>2668594

FYI the reference:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/22/pro-hillary-pac-spending-1-million-to-hire-online-trolls/

OMG breitbart is a right wing source.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/21/1518537/-Clinton-SuperPac-Admits-to-Paying-Internet-Trolls

Guess which one linked to the original source ( good journalism ) and which one didn't ( bad journalism ).

http://correctrecord.org/barrier-breakers-2016-a-project-of-correct-the-record/

INB4 some pathetic atempt to suggest these facts represent some sort of logical fallacy.

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>>2668289
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>>2668377

>I can't refute the facts so i will pretend the post is invalid.txt

>>2662428
Black women are now rated as the most highly educated group in America.

>>2668819
Yeah, Brietbart. The birthers who peddled the lie that ACORN had a child prostitution ring, and that there's a black market for baby parts. Go back to /pol/ you greasy right wing basement dweller.

Donald Trump quotes:
"I am not seeking office"
"I do better as a democrat than as a republican"
"I often think of a nuclear war"
"I see the way of this country in the way crime is tolerated"
"believe very strongly in extreme military strength"
"have a huge military arsenal"
"I can do the job[presidency] as well or better as anyone else"
"I don't want to be president. I'm 100% sure"

Respect his wishes. Don't make him prez.

>>2669036
>black market for baby parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjCs_gvImyw

Lie???

>peddled the lie that ACORN had a child prostitution ring

Now you see this IS a strawman. It sets out an position they didn't take and then attacks them for it.

Breitbart never claimed that acorn had or ran a child prostitution ring but simply that acorn gave inapproprate advice to the people involved. Yes the video was edited to exaggerate some of that advice , done before brietbart got the film, but Acorn has admitted that some Acorn advisors gave "innaporiate advice" and none of them contact US police.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2009/09/10/chaos-for-glory-my-time-with-acorn/

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>>2668286
>so cynical that he has lost the ability to dream big
The construction and maintenance of the wall will create thousands of jobs. It's the cornerstone of America's economic revival.

>>2668816
>unironically using the term “millennial”

>>2668981
So, you're saying that we should be calling him Drumpf?

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>>2669064

From the guy himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuiW_Jagl4U

>>2669108
>Lie???

Right wing conspiracy theorist? What are the odds? That why you read Breitbart.

>Yes the video was edited to exaggerate some of that advice

hahaha!

>>2669129

OMG puke. Megalomaniac narcissist.

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>>2669145

>I don't need to watch the video, Salon.com explained it all to me.logicfail

>>2669207
Sasquatch shot JFK. A youtube video proves it.

>>2667692
>More importantly there is substantial evidence that there is something wrong with the study. If a study shows that watching CNN, MSNBC, FOX are all (when accounting for the 3% margin of error ) as knowledgable or less knowledgable as those who watch "No News at all" you should really be skeptical.

A easy explanation of this would be that the journalistic standards at CNN, MSNBC, and FOX have dropped so much that they are no longer interested in reporting accurate news, but rather focus on attentions grabbing narratives. If a news network is no longer a news network but a propaganda one for the establishment then yes people who watch such propaganda would be less informed then people who didn't watch such narrative spewing drivel.

>>2668007
Back to your /pol/ containment cell cancer.

>>2668594
Someone in the world has a different opinion than me, waaaah waaaah waaaah! For fucks sake stop being such an entitled little baby and grow the fuck up.

>>2662852
>Except he's substantially richer by $billions than all his brother and sisters that inherited the same amount of money?

He sued his siblings to get more money than them. Also he hasn't provided any evidence that he has billions. Trump has released no tax returns that prove he has all these billions. Trumps wealth is only evident by his claim that he "feels he's worth billions" not that he actually has billions.

Trump has filed for bankruptcy multiple times and stuck the tax payers with the bill for his constant failed business. His only real income is conning people into thinking that he is worth billions and charging them money to use his name on things. Now he is conning the American people into electing him president, and it's working because most Americans are morons.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/
>44 percent of Trump supporters have college degrees, according to exit polls — lower than the 50 percent for Cruz supporters or 64 percent for Kasich supporters

Trumps supporters are the least educated out of the previous Republican party candidates, because Trump appeals to uneducated morons.

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>>2669452
>because most Americans are morons

What Hillary and her supporters thinks of Americans.

>>2669475
>What Hillary and her supporters thinks of Americans.

What reality and facts thinks of Americans. I'm sorry you're too stupid to comprehend this. Most of the industrial world believes in education and the pursuit of knowledge, while 'Murica believes in an imaginary sky god, denying science & climate change, as well as pushing for education text books to teach the earth is 6,000 years old. America is a joke to the rest of the world. Heck even your God-Emperor Trump says America isn't winning at anything, well he's right, America is getting its ass kicked at basic math and reading.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/12/american-schools-vs-the-world-expensive-unequal-bad-at-math/281983/

Trump supporters are your typical American idiots that are being conned by a professional con man.

>>2669483
now this is shilling

>>2661327
A-HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
YOU ARE FUNNY. NICE MEME! YES!

>>2669148
OMG ROFL BUZZWORDS!!

>>2669475
And Trump doesn't?

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters."

But he is of course joking. What I really don't understand is how is it possible that this caricature might soon be running the world.

>>2669530
Tell us about how Obummer's gonna take are gunz.

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>>2669475
>>2669483

These debates don't matter.
Left or right, America gets fucked red or blue.
You're both not seeing the big picture.
There are no positives.

It's tantamount to deciding what to do in the last hours of life when a comet is bearing inescapably down on you,
sure,
what you do may seem like it matters, might be fun, might be worrying, probably more than a little frightening,
but,
in the end, you die. And nothing you did before that point mattered.

Btw, don't literally think you're going to die. But I think you get the picture.
Sorry. You're American, I had to clarify.

Trump = biggest disaster this country has ever seen

Obonga = biggest disaster this country has ever seen

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If trump can stay on one side of an issue for more than a few months I could maybe trust him. The only thing he sticks with is immigration.

Also I really dont like his ideas about "calling bill gates to turn off the internet" and climate change. He denies climate change while his company does not.

Hillary is a liar. But so is trump.

>inb4 cuck

also calling someone cuck is the "racist!" of the right

>>2669866
I'm not sure anyone knows what Trump really thinks and intends. What he says is just what the audience wants to hear.

Not that it's that different from any other politician, but Trump has taken the show to 11.

>>2669866
shut the fuck up cuck

>>2669875
>What he says is just what the audience wants to hear.
He doesn't even try that hard, either. It's just "We're gonna win so much. So many jobs, so much money, so much win. People will be calling me up and telling me to stop winning so much". People don't listen or think. They just hear the buzzwords "money, jobs, win" and line up.

>>2669879
Don't forget the Wall. :3

Regular megaprojects like highway system or going to space are BORING.

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>>2662889
That's a rare Trump

>>2662284
>people use forced John Oliver memes unironically

Maybe if you keep calling him Drumpf people will stop voting for him.

>>2669879
You haven't watched many of his rallies then.

>>2669148
OMG I think I'm gonna punch you you fucking faggot
Get the fuck out of 4chan

>>2661584
Show me a orangutan who took a small loan of a million bananas and make it billions
You can't, he ate them all

>>2666171
You yuros dont get to hear the other side because your cuck media doesnt show the other side. Now that you see this thread, you have to fight tooth and nail with propaganda and exaggerated claims.

>>2664180

>recent reports
>links no citation

>>2669912
Come at me bro.

jesus the smothered will of these cucks. They probably think diversity is a good thing.

WHERE ARE THE TAX RETURNS DONNY

>come for high res pictures of based trump
>half the thread is bernouts getting triggered

>>2670195
b-but Trump won't debate the runner up, that means he's afraid!

>>2670161
He's under an audit by the corrupt IRS you fucking retard shill.

Better question: where are Hillary's Goldman Sachs transcripts? What is she hiding?

>>2670161
Taxation is violence.

>>2670066
I'd like Jesus to smother my will if you know what I mean

>>2670199
It does mean he's afraid. He said he would debate, then once it looked like it would happen and he'd have to stand by his words he backed down and ran like a coward.

>>2669497
No it's facts. I'm sorry you're too fucking retarded to understand those.

>>2670262
You want Jamal to rim your anous?

>>2669148
everyone look at this faggot

>>2670438
he just wanted to fuck with the bernouts
why should he waste time with some commie who can't even beat shillary

>>2665696
>a-a-and that's why I support Hillary Clinton
or even funnier:
>the l-l-libertarian candidate!
or just sad:
>t-t-t-ted cruz!

>nice HR thread
>whiny SJWs and retards leaked from reddit and /b/ start crying and spouting MSM-soundbite-tier political opinions
4chan is truly dead, no wonder moot jumped ship
it's like the cancer from 2008 has solidified into a contiguous mass of normies and low-IQ fuckheads

>>2670438
No major TV network offered to host the debate, therefore he had no obligation to do so. Get over it faggot, your NEET candidate lost.

>>2669036
Ad hominem.

People who pretend to be librards to troll are equally as bad as literal shills and should be banned outside of /pol/.

>>2662359
You're one ruined faggot

>>2668594
Yeah, if i don't agree with you automatically shillary is paying me. Fucking kill yourself. Trump is a walking joke and you know it.

>>2670521
he is, though

>>2670590
[3 shekels have been deposited into your account]

>>2669497
Even when presented facts with sources, all you trump faggots do is evade and call stupid faggot insults. Provide real arguments (besides 'cuz yeh trump da best') or fuck off, hillbillies.

>>2670595
>>2670596
[8 shekels have been deposited into your account]

>>2669912
>>2670595
Who even talks like that?
I can do a much better job for Correct The Record(tm) than these losers you guys picked up from r/neets

>>2669129
That was fucking beautiful

>>2670563
ABC and CBS both offered to host the debates, but them Trump said he'd only do it if money was paid to charity. After ABC and CBS both offered to donate money to charity Trump then changed his tune and said now he'd only do it if he was personally paid. Then before even that could be offered he backed out and said he wouldn't do it. Why? Because he's a coward and doesn't stand by his word.

>>2670555
No he's just a lying little child who got caught in yet another lie. Yet for some reason retards like yourself just really want to be taken in by the con man.

>>2669483
try isolating for white americans and you see they're not far off the top

>>2662284
You know saying Drumpf is being racist against German people, right? You successfully bought into the liberal brainwashed agenda, congrats, fag.

>>2665704
>that is disconcerting and reminiscent of darker episodes of history and sides of human nature
Go back to mexico you stupid fucking spic. It is well within our right to keep any group of people out:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

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TIL /hr/ is full of cucks

>>2670832
fascists are always driven to their authoritarianism by insecurity about their sexual inadequacy and incompetence.

>>2670834
So that's why Bernie supporters are anti-freedom, huh? I guess this explains the whole prepping the bull thing.

>>2670834
You tell him sister!

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>>2670832
>TIL
/reddit/ is that way ------>

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Trump getting elected President will be the greatest troll for decades. I hope 4chan can help with this.

As an Australian, and having limited knowledge of American politics, this is what myself and everyone I know thinks of the election.
If Trump wins it'll be a disaster for the world, if Clinton win it'll be a disaster for America. We're all hoping for Bernie.

>>2671448
shut up roofucker

>>2671448

Bernie style politics is what has fucked Australia. We're long overdue for our own Trump to MAGA (Make Australia Great Again).

>>2671448

You framed your statement like a redditor.

Just be aware of that next time you try to post.

>>2671541
Actually our reliance on sea trade and our inability to protect it ourselves is what fucked Australia.
>>2671555
As for talking like a redditor, I have no idea what that means.

>>2662428
>Black's
ok

>>2672035
BLACKS

>>2666171
I hope you aren't implying that that scoialist kike is somehow anti-establishment.

>>2667835
by what source? Politi'fact'? Go home reddit.

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>Tfw 4chan is overrun by bernigger reddit normies wanting to apologize for slavery or paid Hillary shills.

>>2661297
Trump doesn't know how to run businesses, only scams

>>2672120
epic for the win!

>>2672063
This. He hasn't been anti-establishment since the socialist-fascist Kenyan Muslim dictator transformed our once-great nation into the Islamo-Communist States of America.

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ITT: The day /pol/ visited /hr/

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>>2672120
>>2662719

Hillary Lying for 13 minutes straight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

Who SHOULDN'T vote for Hillary (PS the original was pulled by "someone")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoMajiue24

Why You Should NOT Vote For Hillary Clinton In 2016 - Run down of just the proven and documented corruption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIY0pIvz6Ck

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_career_of_Hillary_Rodham_Clinton#Legislation

TL;DR in 2 terms as a senator she managed to pass 3 peices of legislation. One renamed a road, another renamed a post office facility and he third classified the house of an early female labor leader as a historic site. 8 years and that's all.

Hillary Supporters on why they are voting for her. Nothing to do with ideas, policies or character and all to do with her gender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcrA8ehw2e4

Fun Fact - Hillary supporters LIKE Trump policies, they just don't know it ( or anything much by the looks of things ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsxXty6vEBA


But hey Sanders isn't corrupt right?
Sanders' are still profiting from Sierra Blanca nuclear waste dump, per their 2014 tax return
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/16/1516075/-Sanders-are-still-profiting-from-Sierra-Blanca-nuclear-waste-dump-per-their-2014-tax-return

TL;DR Sanders helped push through legislation that benefitted his wife's work.

But none of Hillary's Documented and Proven corruption and lies has been on the democratic party supporting daily show so..

>>2672603
You just went full retard. Who the hell in this thread is actually saying anything positive about Hillary? People are just posting that Trump is a failure of a businessman (which is true) and a scam artist (which is also true) you fucking idiot. Yes Hillary is corrupt as shit and should have been in prison years ago, but that doesn't have anything to do with Trump also being a terrible choice for president.

So basically all you've done is post links to shit that no one is talking about or disputing. Yet you haven't done a damn thing to provide evidence that Trump isn't a lying moron scamming his idiot followers. You have gone full retard.

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>>2672615

No I didn't. Here's the proof.

> People are just posting that Trump is a failure of a businessman
Err no. He is a multi billionaire the lowest estimate is 3 BILLION ( that's $3,000 Million ) . That estimate was done by someone writing a negative hit-piece bio. $3 BILLION is still fucking amazing going by anyones standards. The fact that you suggest otherwise shows that those retard accusations might be projection.

>a scam artist
Citation? or its it just based on your feelz? Well done you just went full "feelz over realz". Also Hillary has been corrupt IN PUBLIC OFFICE. It is documented AND proven.

>Hillary is corrupt as shit and should have been in prison years ago, but that doesn't have anything to do with Trump also being a terrible choice for president.

Who are you voting for in 2016? The fact that Hillary is awful has EVERYTHING to do with Trump. If not Hillary then Trump. Grow up. That's your choice. Thank's for proving my case.

Calling people retarded and then going on to write stupid stuff just makes you sound both stupid and self unaware. Perhaps you whould be more polite next time, people don't mind a polite retard as much.

>>2672615
>Caring *this much* about an allegedly "off topic" post in >>>/hr/ .

Well done you've probably just made the rest of this thread an anti-Hillary thread. Welcome to 4chan. I hope you enjoy your first few days.

>>2672627
independent investigation of trumps wealth sets lowest estimate as 100mil and 200 mil at most. which is not that much considering he inherited 140 mil


i forget the name of the law suit (he has 3,500) but trump took the analyst who posted this study to court and had his cased dismissed.

the guy is a conman, and you all are rubes

>>2672643
>Well done you've probably just made the rest of this thread an anti-Hillary thread. Welcome to 4chan. I hope you enjoy your first few days.

Lol, are you fucking new here. 75% of all threads on 4chan devolve into arguments about nothing to do with the OP. Fuck off redditor.

>>2672627
>Err no. He is a multi billionaire the lowest estimate
Err no, he isn't. The only evidence Trump is a billionaire is from Trump himself. There has been no evidence provided ever that Trump has that kind of money. All real estimates of his wealth put it as lower then the millions and millions he inherited.

>a scam artist
Citation?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-is-a-con-man-and-youre-his-latest-mark/article/2584896
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/01/on-trump-the-con-man/
If you can't find evidence about Trump's history as a well known con man you are not only a complete fucking retard but the laziest human being ever. Check out Trump University for starters.

>Thank's for proving my case.
First off, it's thanks not thank's. Secondly, where the fuck was your case proven? You providing no solid evidence or counter statements to my points are not me proving your case or even you making a well reason intelligent argument. You have yet again gone full retard.

>Who are you voting for in 2016?
What makes you think I'm even American to begin with? Asking who I'm voting for has nothing to do with my points that Trump is a con man and a failure of a businessman. Trump had to file for bankruptcy four times, if that isn't a failed businessman I don't know what is. All he does is make people think he's rich then rent his name out like a whore for others to use on their business because Trump conned them into thinking his name means something.

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>>2672698
http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#57cd71bc790b
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

Look at all the New York real estate etc that Trump owns and tell me that's worth only 100 Million or so. Even Forbes, who have substantial practice at estimating net worth recon Trump is worth $4.5 Billion.

Two shitty blogs full of innuendo and insinuation saying it's a scam. You should try reading the truth about Trump university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

One accusation that it was a "scam" comes from the fact that it didn't have a license to call itself a university. OMG - how terrible. and the other is that people who ran the course sought good reviews. OMG - when will they shoot Trump for what his employees did. Whatever else you can say the participants DID get real estate training. This is NOT evidence that he is a scam artist no matter how much you wish it was.


>Secondly, where the fuck was your case proven?
You act like the choice is Trump, Hillary or Something else. Your hatred of Trump as a candidate does not exist in a political isolation.

What we have learnt from your posts is that Hillary supporters will:

Attack people for posting FACTS about Hillary.
Call anyone who disagrees stupid or retarded.
Ignore good quality evidence for shitty evidence from attack articles because it backs their ridiculous claims.
Nitpick on spelling mistakes to try and create the illusion they are winning the argument.
Deny being Hillary supporters because they know how difficult it is to defend Hillary and her record.
Not post evidence for their own posts whilst unironically attacking people for "not posting evidence" that could easily be found on the first page of google.

Hillary is a Shitty candidate with unpleasant supporters.

Serious question. Why are you so butthurt? What country do you come from where starting such insult laden attacks unproked is considered a reasonable way of going about things?

>>2672776
>Look at all the New York real estate etc that Trump owns and tell me that's worth only 100 Million or so.

You are beyond stupid do some fucking research. All that "Trump real estate" isn't actually owned by Trump it just has his name on it.

>Two shitty blogs full of innuendo and insinuation saying it's a scam. You should try reading the truth about Trump university

LOL and then you post a fucking link to Wikipedia. Hahahahahahaha go home retard you're drunk.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html?_r=0
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/eric-schneiderman-attorney-general-trump-university-fraud/index.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-university-lawsuit-documents-released/story?id=39506555

Anyone with the slightest bit of grey matter in their brain knows that Trump University was a scam.

>One accusation that it was a "scam" comes from the fact that it didn't have a license to call itself a university. OMG - how terrible.

Yes it is terrible, in fact it's illegal and people go to prison for it.

>Whatever else you can say the participants DID get real estate training.

No they didn't. Do some fucking research. The only "training" they got was what you could have found by doing a simple web-search for "top 10 things to know about real estate." Most of the "teachers" were just former fast-food or retail employees with no real estate experience.

>What we have learnt from your posts is that Hillary supporters will:

And yet again you've gone full retard. First, it's learned not learnt. Secondly, when did I say I support Hillary? So why do you keep going to her? Oh, I know it's because you're so fucking mentally incompetent that you can't debate what I'm actually saying so you have to start inserting your own talking points. I don't give a shit about Hillary, I give a shit about how much of a scam artist Trump is and that his supporters are too stupid to understand this simple fact.

>>2672792
Get a rabies jab m8.

>2016
>/pol/luters still cant realize Trump is controlled opposition
Good goys, LMAOing @ your life.

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>>2672643

Bill Clinton is NOT Chelsea Clintons dad.

Hillary had an affair with "Webster Hubbell" a parnter at the law firm where she worked. Chelsea really looks a lot more like Webster Hubbell than she does Bill ( see pic )

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>>2672792


>All that "Trump real estate" isn't actually owned by Trump


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

>As of 2015, it is estimated that Trump's real estate holdings were worth about US$3.5 billion with a value of commercial properties totaled at US$1.3 billion, his residential properties at US$410 million, and his club facilities at US$866 million, and an additional US$940 million for properties he has less than 100 percent stake in.


haha, you can't even read and make up facts to fit your narrative.

FYI:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/learnt-vs-learned
just sayin

Stay mad.

>>2673373
>he doesn't know shillary works for Trump

I imagine Trump going "I was only joking!" when the election is over. His campaign looks like a big reality TV show, to see how far an absurd man can go.

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Hillary "needs supervision" and is often confused

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3320900/Newly-released-email-shows-aide-Huma-Abedin-warned-colleagues-Hillary-confused-needed-hand-holding-calls-foreign-leaders.html

A FOIA lawsuit file to the State Department showed Clinton was often confused and slept through briefings.

>>2664538
/pol/ never liked Palin

By saying "same crowd," you are mistaking us for mainline conservatives, which we are anything but. Most of us have come to political maturation hating both the left and the right intensely. /pol/ supporting Trump is the fusion of nationalism and libertarianism, creating a transcendent new populist right which is both reactionary and visionary, preserving cultural values and rejecting orthodox free market ideology.

No Trump supporter on this website has loyalty to the conservative mainstream and establishment or for that matter the Republican party. These anachronistic institutions are only a vessel for the election of Trump. Once he is elected we can either cut out the deadwood of the GOP and bolster it with those of our ideological camp or create a new political movement to claim ownership of the right wing.

>>2665853
>Trump wants to get climate change deniers in his office
Okay, and we have race deniers in the office now, what of it? Electing Trump won't really alter the anti-science consensus in the Beltway.

>>2668286
It's one thing to feamonger, it's another and more destructive thing to deny terror.

Anyway, a wall is 100% feasible and can more than enough be paid for by taxing remittances, cutting off all social benefit payment to illegals, the money saved from less drug enforcement one the land passage is cut off, and taxing imports from Mexico—a policy which is beneficial in itself since we would like to repudiate NAFTA and end the policy of free trade between the US and Mexico.

Deporting is quite simple. There's no need for a nationwide sweep starting at the top and ending at the bottom in which every house is searched. This is the bogeyman propped up by liberals and internationalist Republicans, HOWEVER, no one is proposing such a thing. You can deport all these people without breaking any eggs by enforcing E-VERIFY and cracking down on employers who still hire illegals and do not implement the system. This will shore up jobs for illegals removing the incentive both to come the United States and to stay, thereby causing them to voluntarily self-deport. All social benefits should be slashed for illegal immigrants by federal mandate—including barring all state and local governments from giving such benefits and removing "sanctuary city" policies. Also, communities known to have a high concentration of illegal immigrants can be targeted with higher policing so that illegals caught in unrelated crimes can have their citizenship status searched and if they are found to be illegal they will be deported.

Other measures could include suspending illegal alien drivers licenses, and I don't know, ENFORCE ALREADY EXISTING LAWS.

>>2673576
She has also had extensive plastic surgery.

>>2672776
>>2673591
>claims someone else makes up facts to fit their narrative
>only evidence to support their own claims is Wikipedia
>mental retardation confirmed

>>2674934
>can't visit the citations in the wiki
liberal education

>>2674936
Do some research often times citations in the wiki are just citing themselves. For example someone will put something in a wiki page, then someone writes an article using that false evidence put on the wiki page, then they link the false info to the written article. Wikipedia can't be trusted as a credible source, there are numerous instances where this has been proven to have happened.

>>2673591
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/03/31/how-donald-trump-exaggerates-and-fibs-about-his-4-5-billion-net-worth/#4b84cd81787e

He doesn't fully own or even partially own most of those holdings listed on the Wiki he just claims he owns them and claims they are worth more then they are actually valued at. This is why you can't trust Wikipedia or what Trump says. You have to actually look at facts.

A journalist claimed Trump was only worth 150-250 million. Trump sued the journalist, but when Trump had to provide evidence of his worth to the judge to prove the journalist was lying Trump couldn't and lost the lawsuit. Why did he lose? Because the journalist was right Trump is only worth 150-250 million, not billions.

>>2674938
Definitely Wiki should always be only a starting place, to get an overview on what to look for. Source criticism is a basic skill to have these days.

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>>2674938

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/03/31/how-donald-trump-exaggerates-and-fibs-about-his-4-5-billion-net-worth/#4b84cd81787e

You do realise this Forbes article is basically saying Trump is not worth the $10 Billion he says but more like $4.5 Billion that Forbes says Trump has. OR are you saying that in September 2015 Forbes estimated Trumps wealth at $4.5 Billion but in March 2016 Forbes valued it at less that $250 million based on a trial in 2011 ie Forbes was off by 1,800%+ ?

Also about that $150-$250 Million estimate that was printed in "Trump Nation". Trump sued and the case was thrown out (Sept 2011) but NOT because the author of hit piece book Trump Nation, Timothy O’Brien, proved Trump was worth $150-$250 Million but because "Trump hasn't demonstrated that author Timothy O’Brien committed "actual malice" by citing three unnamed sources". This is key. You have to prove that the author was acting deliberately maliciously which of course as the "sources" were never revealed Trump's lawyers could never prove. Timothy O’Brien didn't prove that Trump had $150-$250 Million, Trump failed to prove that this very low estimate was done with deliberate malice to sell more books as Trump had claimed. This is very basic and is explained in any article that covers the court process unbiasedly.

That $150-$250 Million figure comes from "unnamed sources" that weren't never revealed. Are you saying you honestly trust those unnamed and unverified sources more Forbes?

The trial:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8100467&page=1
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-loses-libel-lawsuit-232923


Forbes estimation of his net worth:

http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/

TL;DR Trump is worth $4.5 Billion. Deal with it.

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>>2674938

Article vs Wikipedia

Trump International Hotel & Tower Waikiki Beach Walk - Article says he licensed name with management contract. Wikipedia doesn't list it as an asset.

Trump International Hotel Las Vegas - Article says he sold most of the condos but kept some- wikipedia does not claim he owns them all.

Seven Springs - Article accuses him of overblowing the value - does not dispute his ownership. Wikipedia says he owns it but again goes with the lowest estimate.

40 Wall Street - Article accuses Trump of overblowing value because it has a mortgage- Wikipedia says he owns it with mortgage.

Trump World Tower - article says it has mortgage as does wikipedia

West Side Yards - article says he owns 30% not his stated 50%. Wikipedia says he owns 30%

How is Wikipedia wrong here

Wikipedia and your cited article are in almost completely sync. Why are you subtly implying that Wikipeida is somehow wrong but the article is right? It doesn't seem to make much sense and seems to be just blind dislike for Trump.

I think a lot of the haters are going to have to face it Trump is good at real estate. Like him or loath him Trump is good at real estate.

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>>2674760
>>2674755

Well written, Well thought out posts.

I miss my days on >>>/pol/. It's hard to get intelligent conversation about politics that aren't ruined by muh feelz.

inb4 >>>/pol/ isn't perfect etc.

>>2675064
>You do realise this Forbes article is basically saying Trump is not worth the $10 Billion he says but more like $4.5 Billion that Forbes says Trump has

Your reading comprehension is a joke if that's what you got from the article. What the article says is that Trump claims he's worth 4.5 billion but analyzing his holdings reveal this to be inaccurate. Investigation of his actual holdings show that he would be worth 4.5 billion if and ONLY IF he actually owned 100% of the properties he claims to own out right and they are worth vastly inflated prices to what they have been truly valued at.

Once you look at what the properties are really valued at and what percent of those holdings he actually owns then his worth is significantly less then the 4.5 billion. Which is why the Forbes article points out the lawsuit where Trump lost, and his worth was listed as only 150-250 million.

But in order to have gotten that from the article you would have needed to actually read it, not just the title of the piece. You clearly stopped at "fibs about this $4.5 billion net worth." You see you have to read the whole thing to understand that they are calling into question his unproven claim of 4.5 billion.

>Trump is worth $4.5 Billion. Deal with it.
No, people believed he was worth that much until they started to scrutinize those claims in the presidential race and now the evidence is clear those billions are bullshit and Trump is lying his ass off.

>>2675064
Well that settles it. Trump is not worth 10 billion because this anon says so.

>>2675066
>Trump is good at real estate. Like him or loath him Trump is good at real estate.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2016/03/03/has-donald-trump-underperformed-in-the-real-estate-business/#3f8d6db35506
>"Donald Trump has underperformed his real estate investor peers by 48% and 57%"

Also Trump went bankrupt four times. He's terrible at real estate and terrible at business in general.

>>2675074
spot the college kiddie who doesn't know what bankruptcy even is

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>>2675071

>The special needs guy who doesn't realise he's special needs.txt

M8. The irony or YOU going round calling EVERYONE ELSE stupid is clearly lost on you. Please give up. You are adding NOTHING of worth to the conversation and are plainly too stupid to realise this. The grown-ups are talking. STFU.


>>2675074

>Also Trump went bankrupt four times

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump#Use_of_bankruptcy_laws

Technically no.

>all these giant posts of people trying to prove Trump went bankrupt 10,000 times and doesn't have a net worth of $10 billion
It's retarded. You picked the absolute least important aspect of Trump and its the furverous Googling hill you apparently think is worth dying on.

The problem with calculating Trumps assets is their are not easily fungible and rely heavily on always-changing real estate prices. If you take a measure of them at any moment you are likely to get wildly differnent numbers based on his large portfolio. Now, I think its reliable to take his word for it on the $10 billion figure because he is most familiar with his properties and this represents the best negotiable deal he thinks he could get if he liquidated all assets.

That aside it doesn't matter. I'd consider a man a business success if he just owned a small business and brought in a few handsome hundred thousand dollars a year for his family but that's just me. Trump's strong suit is not the golden fixtures, its managing large enterprises, which in effect is what the presidency is.

I don't want Trump to run the country like his country clubs and casinos, I want him to run it like the expansive and top-down state apparatus which it is. You think Hillary or Bernie have the stamina and savvy to do this? There are thousands of govt positions appointed by the president.

Trump is a guy who sleeps 5 hours a night. He will literally be spending every waking hour from 5 am making this country great again and you faggots want an old Pollack who will appoint a BLM panel to make his ever decision and sees the world through pure ideology.

>>2661297
Why?

>>2661297
Trump University is the perfect analogy for his campaign, but instead of scamming idiots for their money, he's scamming idiots for their vote

>>2675354
>b-bern..i..e..... will..... w..i.n......gu..y...s......
>feel...t-the..bern....

>>2661621

You have to go back.

Sure are a lot of mexicans in here...

>>2675086
>You are adding NOTHING of worth to the conversation and are plainly too stupid to realise this.

You have done nothing to provide any evidence that anything said negatively about Trump is false yet call all valid points brought up "NOTHING" but consider your lack of rebuttals as what: well reason arguments? No, it's just more evidence of you going full retard.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump#Use_of_bankruptcy_laws

More Wikipedia citing. You are either a child or have the mind of one. Trump did file for bankruptcy multiple times, it just wasn't personal bankruptcy, it was because he's such a terrible businessman that he couldn't properly run a lemonade stand. All his businesses fail because he isn't a businessman, he's a con man.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20160606/BLOGS02/160609931/trumps-latest-property-tax-bill-out-june-3-shows-he-once-again

Yet more evidence that Trump is at best middle class. He has for years used tax fillings for people with household incomes of less then $500,000.

>>2675238
>I want him to run it like the expansive and top-down state apparatus which it is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-default-national-debt_us_572d08e3e4b096e9f0917fac
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/a-trump-default/89572/

Trump clearly has no idea how to run a national economy. He's also said numerous times he would basically let or initiate the US economy collapsing. So, if you think he can run an expansive top-down state apparatus you are fucking retarded.

>Trump's strong suit is not the golden fixtures, its managing large enterprises

Every business that Trump has run has gone bankrupt. The only ones that haven't he doesn't run he just rents his name out to be plastered on it and it is run by people who have nothing to do with Trump.

> I'd consider a man a business success if he just owned a small business and brought in a few handsome hundred thousand dollars a year for his family but that's just me.

I would too, but the only reason Trump has achieved any success is because daddy gave him millions. Trump hasn't made anything for himself that hasn't imploded.

>>2675565
You got that right, white Billy

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>>2675800
Income doesn't equal assets

>>2675800
>All his businesses fail
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>he couldn't properly run a lemonade stand
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>He's also said numerous times he would basically let or initiate the US economy collapsing
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>Every business that Trump has run has gone bankrupt
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>The only ones that haven't he doesn't run he just rents his name out to be plastered on it and it is run by people who have nothing to do with Trump
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>Trump hasn't made anything for himself that hasn't imploded.
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>his worth was listed as only 150-250 million
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>All that "Trump real estate" isn't actually owned by Trump it just has his name on it
You have done nothing to provide any evidence
>All real estimates of his wealth put it as lower then the millions and millions he inherited.
You have done nothing to provide any evidence

You actually post shitty blog links as "proof" of your deranged rantings whilst saying Wikipedia is "flawed" without showing any proof that the wiki page is question is in any way flawed. You correct people's spelling when it's not even wrong and then call them retard in the ultimate irony fail. You are worse than the people you criticize. All you've got is your anger. The facts as any rational person could see go against what you say.

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>>2675800

You clearly have a low IQ and anger issues. I suspect the two are linked. I do feel sorry for you and would feel some compasion towards you if you weren't such an insufferable asshole. Seeing as one post about Hillary has set you off I will now post anti-Hillary stuff in ANY Trump thread I encounter just on the off chance it sets you off on one of your deranged rants. I suspect the reason you get so angry is because you think it's winning you debates. In reality everyone see's that you are a mad man and just doesn't reply to you. Whilst they do the internet equivalent of "avoiding the crazy person on the bus" you've mistaken this for "winning the argument". You're obvious low IQ and emotional issues put you beyond hope for now. I hope one day you become a functioning human being. Until then FUCK OFF.

PS Turns Out People Who Constantly Correct Others Spelling Are Jerks
http://distractify.com/geek/2016/03/30/people-who-point-out-grammar-mistakes-jerks

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>>2675074

Just some quick observations:

Dow Jones went from 2,000 to about 18,000 between 1976 and 2016
Every $1 invested in 1976 would be worth $9 in 2016
$100 million would be worth $900 Million


If Trump turned $100 Million into £4.5 Billion from 1976 to 2016 ( as the experts at forbes say)
$1 in 1976 Trump would be worth $45 now

That is a massive out performance of the Dow Jones so it's not that bad.

Also the FTSE 100 UK share index ( FTSE's most famous and most obviously neccesary index) was only started in 1984 by the Financial Times in London. Yet this FTSE NAREIT ( a north american real estate index) has data going back to the 1970s. Seems odd for a london firm that started as an offshoot of the financial times. I haven't been able to find much about FTSE NAREIT. Will Look tommorrow.


Source: FTSE 100 founded in 1984:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTSE_100_Index


Source: Dow Jones price
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/djia/charts?symb=DJIA&countrycode=US&time=100&startdate=1%2F1%2F1976&enddate=6%2F7%2F2016&freq=5&compidx=none&compind=none&comptemptext=Enter+Symbol%28s%29&comp=none&uf=7168&ma=1&maval=50&lf=1&lf2=4&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&style=1013

Trump is cracking
The GOP is realizing they nominated a degenerate buffoon
lmao conservacucks

>>2675885
says nervous """"man"""" for 12th time today

>>2675805
Racist!!

>>2662775
It's funny because if you vote left you are literally voting "what's mine is yours", which totally aligns ideologically with being a cuckold.

Unless of course you're a slimy poverty ridden peasant, in which case you're voting in your own interests, congratulations!

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1) FACT: Forbes values Trump at $4.5 Billion and has consistently valued him as a MULTI-BILLIONIARE

http://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/

2) FACT: Trump does do licensing but also DOES OWN A LOT OF PROPERTIES.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization#Real_estate_holdings

3) FACT: The trial where trump lost to a guy that said he was worth $250 million was because trump COULDN'T PROVE the inaccuracy was DELIBERATE MALICE.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8100467&page=1
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/donald-trump-loses-libel-lawsuit-232923

4) FACT: Trump does value himself and his properties higher that Forbes $4.5 Billion BUT AT NO POINT HAS FORBES EVER SAID TRUMP WAS WORTH less than $4 billion in 2015 no matter how YOU MISREAD this article.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/03/31/how-donald-trump-exaggerates-and-fibs-about-his-4-5-billion-net-worth/


If you cannot PROVE anything inaccurate about these citation then THESE CITATIONS STAND AS FACT.

inb4 someone replies calling me a retard, calling me wrong without posting citation, doing retarded and obviously wrong interpretation of a Forbes article that in no way represents what the authors intended or actual message is ( ie defend Forbes 4.5 billion valuation versus Trumps 10 Billion valuation) or using some shitty liberal blog piece as conclusive proof of not being a retard.

Trump is a Multi Billionaire who owns extensive property. Only in the mind of an idiot is this not true.