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Dylan Minnette

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been watching 13 Reasons Why and Dylan Minnette is a real QT
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>>1533581
Is the show any good? It looks like it belongs on CW or MTV
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>>1533586
He looks like the gay brother of the hot dude from MDE.
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>>1533635


Kys
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>>1533585
It starts a little slow but it gets a lot more interesting after episode 3, is not phenomenal or anything, but is well really done andmakes you think about stuff
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>>1533658

Yeah after watching it I really wanted to spread open his boy hole and pleasure him since that dead Stacy bitch wouldn't put out

Really makes you think
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This dude is really hot but
>PNG
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literally who?
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>>1533675
Jack's son from Lost, fuckin duh
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Hes cute but this is one of the boringest/lamest threads on hm atm
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Watched episode 1 for shits n gigs, wound up watching the entire thing. It's a really good pysch/mystery show with a interesting concept. And yes; Dylan is totes adorbs.
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>>1533678
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>>1533680
yeah where's all the bulge and ass.
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>>1533678
He also played a boy in a few episodes of Agents of Shield.
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>>1533678
>>1534042
AND he got the shit killed out of him in Let Me In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNnL4RciSoE
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>>1533581
I prefer the actor who played Bryce. He also showed his ass twice in the series
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>>1534258
But he raped Hannah...
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>>1534278
doesn't mean the actor isn't hot you gimp
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>>1534278
You piece of shit
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Oh sweet! There's more of him! Thanks OP, will watch that show. I also think Dylan Minnette is a cutie.

I first saw him in the surprisingly funny comedy Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day or something like that. Certainly not the pinnacle of cinema, but I did laugh quite a lot.
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>>1533581
>Dylan Minnette

minette {f}
twat fanny sex kitten cool chick
cunt pussy bobby-soxer

minet {m}
fanny twink puss twat
pussycat cunt pussy himbo pretty boy
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>>1534426
Minette in French, is a common name for kittens, too.
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>>1534433
In Portuguese it's a slang word for eating pussy.
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>>1534433
It's also a type of iron ore!
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literally only watched this cos i want to cum all over his face
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The guys that played Alex and Justin were said to be dating in real life.
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Cute couple. Maybe not Tom and Harrison, but cute.
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i first noticed him in the goosebumps trailer lol. really cute but a little too skinny for my taste
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>>1536809
>fattie detected
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>>1533585
It's a shitty teen drama about a girl that kills herself and leaves some recordings for her best friend and blames everyone else for ger death. Not worth watching
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>>1533581
>Cute couple. Maybe not Tom and Harrison, but cute.
>>1536786
My boyfriend use to sleep with him lol
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>>1536996
>My boyfriend use to sleep with him
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>>1533585
I like it. Kinda gives me that same feeling I had while I watched the movie Prisoners.
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>>1536996
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>>1533581
I hate to say it but, I've been checking this kid out since Let Me In. Definitely cute.
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>>1533581
Clay would make a great boyfriend.
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Are we forgetting about the other cutie that's on this teen angst show?
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>>1538560
All 5 of them xD
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>>1538560
It'll never happen but if they ever do a ME:Andromeda movie he should play Reyes.
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The rapist guy was pretty thicc. I would have let him rape me any day
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What about Tony, he is hot and gay, my Love
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>>1538560
>>1538629
>>1541111
tony

my boi

pls love me
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>>1538643
i NEED some more photos of him

don't like the rape, but GOD those scenes with him shirtless turned me on.
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>>1541898
Moody, girl blames others while being just as guilty
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>>1536784
One of their publicists denied that.

Now I can't even tell if Brandon is gay, Alex (idr his real name) is definitely gay though.
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How are you faggots gonna forget the hottest guy of the entire show? Jeff Atkins!

He's mine. None of you can have him.
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His eyes are too close together imo.
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Don't forget about Montgomery, he is pretty hot too.
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Watching it right now and he is. Plus his social (non) status reminds me of me in HS.
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>>1533597

That is my cum streaming down his back
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>>1538560

Sorry, Tony's hair is too faggy.
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>>1541898

On the one hand, the main girl is a drama queen who leaves a suicide note blaming everybody else for her problems like 80% of teens think about doing at some point,

OTOH, it does make kids think about how hurting somebody doesn't just have to be obvious bullying; it can be in 1000 small ways of both actions and inactions that send someone off the end.
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>>1542712

Eh--it's a typical teen drama, not award-winning but not laughable in a mockery way. The characters are sincere and the story is gripping (it's a big mystery, time jumps around, and they mention "XXX incident" but you don't find out what it is for a few more episodes), even though the dynamics of the kids will make you roll your eyes at how unfeasible they are (but not as bad as, say, Glee). it was written as an anti-suicide message and I hope succeeds on that front. But not really "moody"--a typical high school 'message' movie, almost like a 13-hour After school Special.
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dylan minnette is so hot. his friend and bandmate (the drummer) is also super handsome hot. i wish there were more vid clips of his friend.
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>>1542717
I think it's way better than your typical teen drama, it might not win best series Emmy but it's far better than the usual dreck they put out that takes place in high school. Performances, writing, the way it was shot and the production value, it was definitely not an after school special, I'd put it up there with most of the other good shows on TV right now, rotten tomatoes tends to agree. The biggest problem I had were some of the inconsistencies in character and sometimes confusing motivations, but the actors were good enough to sell those most of the time so they never really took me out of it. It reminded me a lot of Perks of being a Wallflower, very mature narrative and tone for the show that it is. Also about 1/2 male actors on the show are hot which helps, but even if you were asexual I think you could watch this show on it's own merit.
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>>1544293
Also I could never really fit Tony into the picture. His story and character didn't quite add up to me even after the resolution, not to mention the fact that he looks 30. And he seemed to pop up whenever it was convenient for the script. But his hair is great so he gets a pass.
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>>1544294
Yeah, i kept wondering if he was even a student there or some kind of intern/TA
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>>1533581
he got a bigass head
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Justin?
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>>1544294

There were quite a few details that stretched my suspension of disbelief--like the fact that they were all in the same "Communications" class despite being different years in school, and many of the same characters in classes together whenever it fit the story.

Also, someone as dorky-looking as Alex would never befriends with the jock crowd, NEVER.

And [Spoiler for Ep 13], the fact that the guidance counselor didn't have his phone calls held as a matter of course whenever there was a student in there, was LUDICROUS--and yet that almost made it seems as if that were the last step that could have saved her.

I did enjoy the series and think it has a very important message, though.
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>hm is for porn
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>>1545077
Eh, most celebrity threads are petty much people saying how hot hey are. this and the Asa Butterfield thread are far less annoying than the Tom Holland thread which is pretty much 3 guys circle jerking.
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>>1533585
No.
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>>1545129
i thought it was great. premise sounds cheesy, but the way it was executed made me want to keep watching. certain aspects were a little too on-the-nose and PSA-like, or preachy, but can't really put them down for saying "treat people better"
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>>1533581
>still missing the hottest one
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>>1545133
he had the prettiest face and the cutest fucking smile. body could use a bit of work though
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>>1545133
Ikr
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>>1545160
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Just finished binge watching the rest today, starting to think Hannah had the right idea. Think I'm gonna get working on my tapes
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>>1545369
>Think I'm gonna get working on my tapes
At least have the courtesy to do mp3's, you saw what a pain in the ass the tapes were
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>>1545374
That was part of the tapes I thought. Not only do you have to listen to a dead girl list all the shit you did to cause her to off herself, you have to deal with god damn tapes in 2017, the ultimate payback
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>>1545439
He's fucking adorable.
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>>1546276
He's so hot in the cuddly kinda way
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>>1546934
Is this him? I've seen this pic trending on twitter a few days ago
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>>1546935
Its not him
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>>1546934
>>1546935
>>1546948
Whoever this dude is he's got a Mic-key enteral feeding tube. Which like, that kinda sucks.
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>>1546963
Nope. The guy is diabetic. It's a Dexcom CGM. Is the actor diabetic? That would help explain if it's really him...
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>>1546967
Its not fucking him you fucking blind idiot
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>>1546975
Idk. I really think it looks like him.
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>>1534216
holy fuck this isnt porn its not even cute
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>>1538560
I would always pick Clay over Tony. Hannah is a retard for letting him slip away
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>>1547957
So fucking hot, and furrier than he looks I love it
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clay looking at Tyler's ass ;)
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>>1548007
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>>1546934
Similar face but yeah definitely not him
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Kept reminding me of this guy throughout the series, had the same kind of Perks of being a Wallflower vibes
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>>1548007
>>1548008

i thought clay was gay for tyler but reading the wikipedia page of 13 reasons found out clay isn't and clay and tyler don't end up kissing onscreen ;_;
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>>1547959

hhhnnnnngggghhhhhhottttt
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>>1533581
His voice is freaking manly

It really caught me off guard
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>>1550008
A lot of young actors do voice training in order to speak in a lower register since a deep voice is considered masculine and therefore attractive.
Ordinary people can do it too.
I trained myself to speak in a deep voice when I was a teenager because my first gf told me I sounded like a girl and ever since the people have told me what a sexy voice I have.
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>>1550196
Thats sort of sad. Its ok to be urself, anon. ill accept you no matter how faggoty your voice is
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>>1550229
>ill accept you no matter how faggoty your voice is
Wow, how accepting
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>>1550359
ikr :)
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Queerty had an extremely well-written and well-argued opinion piece a few days ago, about how this show handles suicide poorly, but gay youth very well.

It's so rare that this low-quality gay news site actually has a good article, I thought I'd just mention it.

https://www.queerty.com/netflix-series-13-reasons-finally-takes-queer-families-seriously-20170507
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>>1550376
Eh idk, imo it shows how fucking brutal suicide is more than it glamorizes it. sure it sort of creates the idea that you'll get justice with your suicide with all the revenge shit, but as far as how everyone reacted to the suicide and how it was treated, that's what actually happens. nobody ever speaks ill of someone whos recently committed suicide and everyone pretends that they were important to them and better than they were. Just how it goes, you can't fault them for showing the reality of it, even with all the tape aspects of the plot which i think most people who are mature enough to be watching that kind of stuff can clearly see is an unrealistic hollywood plot. Worlds greatest dad did the same thing a few years ago and nobody gave a shit, it's just trendier to make everything into controversy these days, not to mention the news loving it
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>>1548098
I agree. Dylan feels like a slightly inferior imitation of Logan, but he's still smoking hot. They're both my type.
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>>1550487
Dylan is budget Logan, looks wise anyways. His acting was really good in the series though, haven't seen him in anything else
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His eyes are mesmerizing
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>>1551366

<3
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Dylan with his bandmates. Braeden is also an actor.

Cole is so handsome. I wish there were more videos of him online.
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>>1542075
He was too pure for this world.
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>>1551760
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>>1552167
>>1542075

nice body, nice character, but facially he looks like my aunt, you know, the kind with short hair, not-so-young, smoking too many cigarettes...
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>>1550196
His "Clay" voice isn't "fake" though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfo_VE2RT3I
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All the actors are hot
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>>1552755

reggie/butler is sooooo hot!

who's the shirtless guy next to him?
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>>1553017
Justin (Brandon Flynn)
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>>1553020

thanks! brandon is super handsome.

miles heizer is also super handsome. he looks much better with his natural hair color. he's got wonderful hair. and a very very handsome face. <3
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>>1553981
They both look dead inside.
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The gay guy from this is really REALLY gay apparently.
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>>1552167
>>1542075

Yah. Muchos hot.
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>>1554148
Hahaha the height difference between he and Tony, I never would have guessed, oh the magic of film
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>>1554153
Meh, he's like Ken doll attractive, I feel like he just got shipped out from the generic hollywood hot guy factory. I like clay and justin more desu, especially Justin, that dude and his chiseled face could bend me over a park bench in the middle of the day and I'd make no effort to stop him
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>>1554175
I guess there's a reason they had him sat in a car most of the time.
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>>1554180
His teeth. I want to fuck his teeth.
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>>1554175
He's wearing 6" Viviene Westwood platform boots ffs....
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>>1554206
Still the shortest guy there, even without being next to a guy in platforms.
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>>1554195
>Those big arms
i can't, just fuck me already papi
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>>1554195

faces are very handsome but they ruined their bods they look unnatural and fat
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>>1554148
I love miles' look here. I want him to be my bf
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Am I the only one who likes Tyler? He's cute, and also has a surprisingly big ass for someone that skinny.
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>>1554510

he's cute. i'll enjoy faptasizing him. <3
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>>1554931
>faptasizing
I like it.
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Was Tony gay for clay in the show?
The scene after they finish rock climbing really makes me feel like he was
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>>1554364
>not wanting Brandon Flynn as husbando
Fine I call dibs
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>>1554931
He's cute too, he looks better outside the show than on it IMO he has better style than his character
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>>1554510
No, I want to wreck him.

Dylan Minette is dead inside and boring, dunno what his appeal is.
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>>1554985
That was heavily implied, they even had a line about it where Clay said something like " are you sure you're doing this all for Hannah" and Tony smirked at him and walked off
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>>1555013
>dunno what his appeal is
I'm guessing his pretty face.
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>>1555036
Or maybe his lean, sexy body... mmmm
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>>1555050
Or his beautiful eyes, deep voice, cute butt...
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>>1555033
How could Clay not have noticed Tony was gay... or had boyfriends... seriously though?
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>>1555067
Pretty easily. He didn't look gay, didn't act gay, never said he was gay until he admitted it and Clay is the naive type. You don't find things you're not looking for
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>>1555069
But he was dating the newspaper guy! And he wasn't in the closet, as far as I could tell.

If I was in school with my friends, I'd know the basics about them. You'd have to be reeeeeeeeally naive not to notice a friend having a partner.
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>>1555071
Not at all. Just because he spent time with a gay guy doesn't mean he's gay, and as far as the newspaper guy, you'd assume they were friends like 95% of the straight acting guys who hang with other guys. They never said they were dating, why would he assume it? This sounds more like one of those questions that's impossible before you know the answer and incredible easy once you know it. Nothing is black and white
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>>1545161
Ugh, do me
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>>1555033
>That was heavily implied
No it wasnt dumbass. That was clearly meant as a humorous beat in the show *eyeroll emoji*
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>>1555100
Are you a boy? If so, then you might have a chance! Go get im tiger!
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Hah, I just finished watching this show and I also thought the entire cast was sexy as hell.

I knew there would be a /hm post about 13 Reasons Why. Alex is my favorite twink though. But everyone in the show is hot as fuck.
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>>1533581
>/hm/ is for sharing porn
>face pics of child actors

mfw
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googling pix of brandon flynn and miles heizer and came across this pic. is that a scene from 13 reasons or a fanfic shoop/edit?
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>>1555383
from this:
https://vimeo.com/206350366
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>>1555387

thank you <3
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>>1552753
Ugh he's so attractive it's almost painful.
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>>1533583
I enjoyed this scene a lot. He's barefoot in it too. What episode is it from?
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>>1552753
oh god hes a furry
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>>1555424
Why do you say that?
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>>1555455
Crushes on Zootopia
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>>1555494
That's actually what's called a joke
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>>1533660

Hannah. Hannah Baker. WELCOME TO YOUR TAPE
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>>1555247
Ahhhh, the hottest Hollywood Twink likes In N Out? Awesome
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That's all folks. Fuck this place
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>>1533581
my penis needs to be part of his daily vitamin packed and balanced breakfast
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>>1555502
Alright now that this sentence and apply it to this one
>>1555424
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>>1553981
looks like his hair is thinning really badly here.
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fell in love with ross butler when i saw him in that sex scene in teen wolf. wish he was having sex with a guy in that scene but when he moaned and grunted sooooo hot.
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>>1556071
I don't remember this guy play a part in Teen Wolf, let alone a sex scene. Can you refresh my memory please?
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>>1556356
or better yet post a webm or gif of the scene (or link to it on youtube)
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>>1555227
Yeah, and that's supposed to be "one of today's most honest, most truthful depiction of adolescence, far from the clichés of Hollywood's teen movies", in the approximate words of all TV journalists.

Seriously? What's their school, Hotness High? And did science find a miracle cure for acne while I was away?
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>>1533581
>Those shorts
>Those socks
>Those legs
Hnnnnng.
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>>1542717
it romanticizes suicide more than it goes against it and advocated self harm as an alternative
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>>1556602
Ppl who think the show does these things are stupid, lol.
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>>1556621
"Suicide, get revenge on everyone who fucked you over!" Was the only message I could take away from this show.
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>>1556626
I agree with this anon. "Kill yourself young person, everyone who doesn't care about you and fucked you over will suddenly care about you and regret their actions! Revenge, sweet revenge at last!"

IRL suicide impacts those who loved the person who died, but barely touches those who did not love them, if at all.
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>>1533583
Can someone tell me what episode this is from? I've tried searching for it and come up short.
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>>1557094
Ep 5
from 3:35
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>>1557112
Thank you very much good sir (or ma'am).
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>>1553981
What an uncomfortable picture
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no alex yet??
sheesh.
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like cmon
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>>1557352
>>1557353
It's the bleach blond hair, he looks a lot cuter off the show with his natural darker hair.
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>>1555770
underrated post
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>>1557364
i like the bleached blonde desu, but to each their own
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>>1557384
90% sure i typed hair there
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>>1557385
Your brain did but your fingers didn't, happens to me all the time
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>>1557364
the blonde works a lot better when his hair is a bit longer. pic related, but agree agree for the most part. his natural hair color suits him really. look how cute he is in this fucking video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxR4TcrwRxU
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>>1557491
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>>1557492
miles, just sign up for helix already. even a solo would be ok
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>>1556356
>>1556376

sorry for taking so long to reply. i thought i already replied.

it's season 6 but forgot specifically which ep. i think ep 3 or 4. stiles got "erased" from memories of everybody and his werewolf (or werecoyote, i think) gf has sex scene with ross' character. i ross was doing it with a young and handsome guy but when he moaned in that scene it was soooooo hot it helped me to mentally erase the girl in the scene.

he's also in one or two eps later in the season.

been trying to post reply for more than 5 minutes fuckingdamnit, just read in the newspaper my country has the slowest internet among countries in the world. damn you greedy greedy duopoly smart and globe damn youuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
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>>1557493
holy shit i just realized he was in parenthood
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>>1557574

that's where i first knew him. he was soooo cute especially in that shirtless scene. wish he had brotherly scenes with his cute boy cousin. but his bonding scenes with his still-ok-looking uncle.

he's gotten so much more handsome and hot now.
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>>1533581
Oh I wish I could smell the heavenly aroma of those socks after a long, sweaty day, then clean his deliciously smelling feet with my tongue until it's properly cleaned. After that I would slowly start going up and give him a full body wash with my tongue. Then he would return the favour by showering me with his cum.

Yeah, he is cute.
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>>1557557
>werewolf (or werecoyote, i think) gf
werecoyote (and they haven't been together for a couple seasons already)

Yes I remember the scene now, thanks for replying. I didn't pay too much attention to it since there's a girl.

>slowest internet among countries in the world
New Zealand? I've been told it's New Zealand because they're so far remote.
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>>1556598
>Basic shorts
>Plain socks
>Straightforward legs
But yeah, hnnnng nonetheless.
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I hope he does more nude scenes.
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Sauce? It was in a meme.
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>>1558246
Wrong thread buddy?
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He is the most bland looking guy ever
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>>1558522
Wow, stick to your gross wheat bread and ill stick with my delicious, fluffy white bread
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>>1558525
That is actually a very apt description. Dude is good-looking in a very unremarkable way: nondescriptly handsome and uninterestingly cute, in a way. And I mean it as an unflattering compliment.

I didn't know it was possible before seeing him for the first time.
>>
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>>1558537
Hotness is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously there's a degree of consensus but when it comes to who you think is the hottest of the hot--that's going to vary from person to person. Also, sometimes someone becomes more attractive as you're exposed to them more.

Personally I find Dylan Minnette extremely attractive, and he's only gotten hotter as I've watched more of the show.
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>>1533581
Okay he's hot buuuut
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>>1542075
>>1542102
Hottest men on the show.
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>>1559963
i feel bad for this actor. his character is the final boss/villain of the show, and he's not just a rapist, he's a two-time rapist. a super rapist!
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>>1560071
Most actors agree it's more interesting to play the villain though, so don't feel too bad
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>>1560175
No m8 now everyone thinks he's a rapist in real life because he played one for the show and because he sort of has that kind of face, which is all people really need
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>>1560188
Everyone confuses a TV show for real life? I doubt that.
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>>1560221
He means idiots on Twitter who can't separate fiction from reality and send the actor hate.
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I'm doing it tonight, thanks for the motivation guys
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>>1560224
>I'm doing it tonight,
Committing suicide and sending tapes to those who've wronged you?
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>>1560235
Well, if he does the tapes we know he wint finish by today. All the false starts and editing thats gotta be done to take out the stutters. Hannah mustve written out scripts beforehand
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>>1560222
Just how common is that? We can't expect to be spared any and all run-ins with the mentally ill on the internet.
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>>1560224
U ok hun?
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omg Jeff
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>>1561022
Ok he overdid it now. Why tf do guys always go overboard?
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>>1561022

i agree with >>1561031 he's overdoing it

his face is not ugly but it's not that handsome but with a fit bod he would be hot despite the not-so-handsome facce but with a bloated body like in that pic he's not attractive.

>>1560224

if you're serious not joking, hang in there, anon. i promise you life will get better. watch music vids of handsome guys.
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>>1560255
You'd be surprised. Mo'nique got so much hate IRL for her role in Precious when people saw her on the street
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>>1563207
replace the one in the middle with Brandon Flynn and you've got yourself a deal
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>>1563222
>brandon sandwich
>brandon fucking dylan while miles fucks brandon

excuse me i have go "shower"
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>>1533581
Where do you see this show?
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he's the most perfect boy next door. i wish i had a neighbor like him growing up.
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>>1566143

gods he's so handsome in that vid!
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>>1566143
Thirsty bitch better not touch my dylan with her grubby little smapchatting fingers
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>>1534278
Hannah was an annoying cunt anyways.
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>>1566331
Makin a tape for you
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>>1533581
I know I can't wait until he kills himself.
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>>1566364
Yup, and to see all the people responsible go to jail for a long fucking time. I assume they're building up to that for season 2. We didn't even get to see the aftermath of the blonde guy shooting himself.
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>>1566364
>>1566366
Why do you think this will happen? That would be incredibly random
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>>1533658

Does it make you want to think about things in addition to stuff?
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>>1536784

it's not gay if you hold a bible
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>>1552755

If they're all supposed to be kids what's with the fucking tattoos
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>>1566867
You can have tattoos in high school
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>>1542074
i actually think they're both gay. apparently brandon is really into ru paul's drag race? i literally don't know a single straight guy who's into that show, let alone a big fan of it
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>>1542102
i want to see him shirtless. i suspect he's got a great body. face reminds me of anton yelchin, rip
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>>1566869
One of my closest friends is straight and he's the one who got me into drag race. His girlfriend is a big fan. So it does happen.
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>>1559963
He's the perfect husband material
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>>1566873
What does he like about it?
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>>1566870

;_;
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>>1558929

I wonder how Colin and Dylan know each other. Did they work together on a movie or tv show? And these are the only pics I can find of them together. Did they just happen to be at the same place at the same time?
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>>1568169
>>1558929
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>>1567678
No man should die without a leaked set of nude selfies, especially when they're so fuckable.
):
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>>1559965
It's not right when your arm is bigger than your head
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>>1559965
>>1570588

yeah, his arm is disgustingly unnatural. he has a very handsome face but arm is a massive turn-off.
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