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Hot white South African men appreciation thread. Someone have

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Hot white South African men appreciation thread.
Someone have videos or naked pics of South African whites? I've never seen things like that around.
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what difference is a south african white compared to....white?
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They are usually of Afrikaans origin or decent. This makes them quite muscular, well tanned and well hung.
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>>1431899
>>1431882
They're descended from Hollanders and due to their relative genetic insulation have a significantly higher rate of Huntington's disease.
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>>1431882
lmao right??
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>>1431858
if these guys are from Africa, why are they white?
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you cant just ask why people are white
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Im south african an i can tell you most of the guys this side is not this hot most of them are that lives near the oceans are desu the rest of the country not so much
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>>1432022
because thanks to modern means of travel, the country ur born in doesnt dictate ur skin colour. its a crazy concept so take ur time digesting it anon.
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>>1431907

Mmm, Huntington's disease
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>>1432041
lmao. go to the Caribbean and get mind fucked by all the different colors there
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Fine men indeed but I wouldn't dream of travelling to such a shithole that South Africa is
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>>1431858
This is an oddly specific thread requirement. What about hot white Zimbabwean men (who escaped Mugabe and moved abroad)?

Or just hot white men?
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>>1432022
OMG, you cant just ask people why theyre white!
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>>1432022
Because Africa is a geographical location, and not a race.
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>>1432048
Cape Town is regularly voted as one of the world's best cities to visit.
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>>1432046
again, take ur time digesting the concept.
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>>1431907
1< - <10 per million white South Africans with Huntington's disease, which is substantially lower than the 10< - <100 per million in Europe & N.America.

Highest incidences are in Tasmania, Australia and a community in Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela. http://web.stanford.edu/group/hopes/cgi-bin/hopes_test/population-genetics-and-hd/
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>>1432097
wait wat?? those stats are basically relative though? thats like saying 2 1/4 of 1 is not the same as 1/2 of 1??
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>>1432127
USA prevalence rate: 100 cases per million people.
South Africa whites/coloureds prevalence rate: 22 cases per million people.
http://web.stanford.edu/group/hopes/cgi-bin/hopes_test/population-genetics-and-hd/
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>>1431858
moar from that first guy
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>>1431858
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>>1431899
Yeah, the Afrikaner guys I've seen in Cape Town and Pretoria were incredibly good looking and well hung, the accent is kinda hot too (at least for me).
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>>1431858
whats the story about the brutish afrikaans stereotype? i always here jokes about how savage looking and big afrikaans guys are.
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>>1431858
Another sexy white South African!
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>>1431858
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>>1431899
Why would be descended from basically Dutch people make them tanned, muscular and well hung?
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>>1432212
>Apartheid denialism
That isn't a thing.
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>>1432207
Nope.
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>Be white south african
>all these hot straight guys
>all these butter face gay guys
>all these closet cases
>all these local folk who would beat you to death for being gay

Being gay in South Africa is suffering
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>>1432049
Here's a hot white Zimbabwean.
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>>1432203
most of them come originally from farming communities so naturally they are all corn fed beef growing up in an extremely macho environment.

Moreover Africa in general holds a very masculine view on things. There's even a saying: "Africa is not for sissies".

They are also very proud of their Afrikaner heritage and will downright clobber you for even insinuating anything negative about Afrikaans culture.
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>>1432233
We were one of the first countries where gay marriage was made legal
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>>1432233
>Being gay in South Africa is suffering

South Africa was one of the first countries in the world to legalise gay marriage.
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>>1432237
Great - now if only we can deal with the local hostility, shallow community and toxic masculinity we can actually make use of gay marriage.
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>>1432212
>>Apartheid denialism
You need to update your knowledge base, Apartheid ended decades ago.
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>>1432228

I is actually a thing...
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>>1432241
Yes the laws were all scrapped just over 2 decades ago. Not that loooonnggg ago. The effects of it is still everywhere. The fact that white South Africans want to push it so far back in the past without confronting the realities of the crime against humanity and try to deny its contribution to current affairs make them unattractive...
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>>1432239
>toxic masculinity
Why would you put your own happiness on hold until society has transformed to your liking. I live in SA, and have yet to experience overt homophobia. And the only toxic masculinity I’ve encountered is from closet cases trying too hard.
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>>1432248
Making sweeping generalisations about an entire race group is bigoted. Do you blame all ethnic groups for the actions of their forefathers?
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>>1432264
im not anon but what sweeping statements did that anon make??
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>>1432283
It's all there in the quotation, starting with “The effects of it is (sic) still everywhere” and continues with "The FACT that WHITE South Africans" and ends with "make them unattractive”

It is nonsensical to claim the effects of apartheid are still everywhere, and it is a sweeping generalisation to accuse an ethnic group of behaving in a particular manner, particularly when many members of that group had yet to be born.
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>>1432091
you got the reference, that is so fetch!
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>>1432233
Yeah, many hunks there looks super straight. At least the young ones act super fratty. I wonder if that influences the fact that ZA have few or none gay porn anon.
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>>1432176
MOAR.
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>>1431858
>Hot
>white

Pick one
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>>1432233
not only that, but you get lynched by blacks.
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>>1432264
Are you being stupid? If someone says that men rape women, are you going to defend yourself by saying not all men rape women, and that its a sweeping statement?

Plus, if you feel opposite about what I have said and practice it, you would have the premise of my statement. your reaction just shows you are possibly one of the type mentioned!
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>>1432526
pay backs a bitch
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>>1432264
> Making sweeping generalisations about an entire race group is bigoted. Do you blame all ethnic groups for the actions of their forefathers?

Definition of bigotry: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Whats wrong about speaking the realities? We shouldnt blame whites for the actions of their forefathers but also we shouldnt acknowledge that blacks suffered and compensate them for the damage done?

There's just no giving is there?
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>>1432243
i live in south africa and i can safely say ive never ever come across anyone who denies that apartheid happened. this is just sad wordplay.

those white people who downplay its severity are pretty much always old racists who couldn't leave/didn't bother to in 1994, and then rural uneducated trash, and you get the second sort of people in any country.
comparing corruption levels pre and post apartheid is a little sensationalist. the wording is bound to get people emotional and that's what some journalists do, but denying that south africa is'n't extremely corrupt given our shitshow arms deals, trains which won't fit on rails, and "fire pools" is is to let your biases get the better of you.

>>1432233
>>1432239
where are you from? im in joburg rn.
its gay scene is death. too gossipy and bitchy and half the clubs are in strip malls on the outskirts of the city.
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>>1432571

I agree with OP completely! On corruption...the whole Apartheid system was based on corruption...you don't think that its corrupt to put 80% of the population in 13% of the land corruption, or curbing development?

Sure corruption is rife these days..but still it was rife before. Thats the kind of denialism I think other OP was referring to.
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Racist thread o.-
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Why the hell is there an apartheid debate on a porn thread? If you're are not from South Africa, don't comment on apartheid or racism. The country has done a huge turn around since 1994, not everything for the better.
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>>1432589
Thats what happens when when white south africans want to be special...
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>>1432091
>>1432333
4chan isn't for you, faggots. Go back to Tumblr
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>>1431858
...you mean whites? they all look the same to me
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>Traveling with family to Johannesburg.
>Gets hotel in a super wealthy district.
>Handsome Afrikaner men everywhere.
>Room shared with sisters.
>7pm, family wants to know the city.
>"Hey son, let's go dinner somewhere!"
>Perfect opportunity, I fake a disease.
>They leave, room all for myself.
>Calls the first hunk available on Grindr.
>He lives close, arrives in 5 minutes.
>27yo, 1.90m of pure Afrikaans beauty.
>Rugby style body, blond hair, blue eyes.
>It doesn't take long for him to get touchy.
>His hands softly goes up and down my abs.
>You can feel he loves a smooth twink ass.
>"So... first time in South Africa?"
>"Yes", I say hypnotized by his muscles.
>He gives a naughty smile, grabs my crotch.
>I get instantly hard, he keeps staring at me.
>"Damn, you South Africans are so hot."
>"Never met an Afrikaner before?", he smiles.
>I don't have time to answer, he comes closer.
>Starts kissing my neck without a word.
>His beard scratches me, feels awesome.
>"just arrived... don't know much yet"
>"yeah?", he keeps close on my neck.
>"I gonna show you something then boy."
>He pulls his big thick white dick out.
>Brings my hand to it, it feels so warm.
>It's hards as a rock, I can feel it pulsing.
>Starts to get rough, he grabs me strongly.
>His hands are underneath my white t-shirt.
>He touches every part of my body, I retribute.
>One hand on his crotch, other on his pecs.
>I start to moan on his ear like a little bitch.

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>>1432641
go on.
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>Start teasing him while he takes his shirt off.
>I look at him, the hottest pecs I've ever seen.
>He grabs me tight, don't stop kissing me
>Brings one hand to my lower back, other to my crotch
>He likes to hear me moan, You can feel he's a total top
>"Get on your knees"
> He forces my head down, I stare at that big white dick
>"Do you like it?"
>"Fuck yeah."
>Takes my shirt off, showing him my smooth twink body
>He doesn't even ask, puts it in my mouth.
>"oh fook yeah boy", he says in his hot accent.
>I open wide, wanting to hear more from that Afrikaner.
>Taking every centimeter of that dick, he goes crazy.
>He puts my head against the bed, pants halfway down.
>Grabs my hair, starts fucking my mouth making me gag.
>He lays down on my bed, I kiss him all the way up.
>Takes off my pants, his finger goes around my hole.
>"How old are you again?"
>"I'm 18, finishing high school"
>"Fook yeah, you will give me that hole, right?"
>"Mmm...", I moan on his ear.
>"Can you speak on Afrikaans with me?", I ask.
>He hesitates for a while, but he agrees.
>Starts talking Afrikaans, fooks everywhere.
>Working on his cock again, deep and steady.
>He has a new fuckhole and enjoys every second.
>Stands up again, He slaps my face with his dick.
>Brings my head to his crotch, smells so good.
>"Fook boy, lick it"
>He jerks off moaning with a deep voice
>I lick him, a bit worried if my sisters come back.
>He just says "open it", and shoots all over my face.
>One of the best tasting cum I've had.
>I look up, he's smiling at me with those blue eyes.
>He cleans me with his thumb and puts in my mouth.
>Asks me to cum, I do it in few seconds.
>I had so many loads, he grabs me and puts me on bed.
>He licks it all with the top of his tongue.
>Brings all to my mouth and make me drink more cum.
>We kiss, It feels so good, his hands are all over me.
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>>1432564

I get it, you were turned down by a white dude and now find them "unattractive" LOL! Get over yourself Dora.
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>He still have my cum on his mouth, goes to my hole.
>Starts licking it, and I open wide for him.
>Comes back to kiss me, forces a finger in.
>"It's tight, fok"
>I moan in pain but he don't give a fuck.
>He is an Afrikaner beast, and I'm his prey.
>He locks me on my bed, I can't move.
>It hurts, but I didn't wanted it to stop.
>I was not used to bottom, I tighthened my hole.
>He takes it as a challenge, fingers me harder.
>I try hard to not moan loud.
>Family can come at any moment.
>Fear makes everything even hotter.
>He stops. I hear he grabbing a condom.
>Oh_fuck.jpg
>Soon I realize, he locks me on bed again
>As a good Afrikaner, he puts his hand on my mouth.
>"oh fok ja boy"
>Sticks it in slowly, It hurts so much.
>Dirty Talking in Afrikaans made me horny as never before.
>I let him put it deeper, "Oh fook yeah, fokken good puss"
>As a good rough Afrikaner, he puts his hand on my mouth
>Sticks his dick all the way down, look at my eyes.
>He knows he can do whatever he wants with his prey.
>Starts slowly, I can feel every inch. Kiss me all the time
>He brings me to the end of the bed and stands up.
>Puts both hands on my lower abdomen.
>Starting fucking me hard.
>It's difficult to stay quiet.
>Feels like a whole vuvuzela is inside me
>I kept saying "Give me that Afrikaner dick!" >Every moan made him pound even harder.
>He holds my arms agains the bed.

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>Keeps saying to me "Fokken lekker puss."
>He kiss me like we've met before.
>Scratches his beard all over me.
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>Talking Afrikaans on my ear.
>I don't understand much, but i like it.
>He blasts his load inside me
>Roars like a lion while he shoots.
>Throws condom on floor, lays down on my side exhausted.
>I start jerking me off, he puts his arm behind my head.
>"fokken lekker dick boy"
>he grab my dick as well. We jerk off together.
>His blue eyes do not stop staring at mine.
>"I'm close", that's all he wanted to hear.
>He holds my dick tight, going stady and fast.
>I blast other big load, one of the best orgasms I've had.
>"Fok yeah!"
>We stare at each other for a while
>He kiss me kindly. You can say he was enjoying every second of it.
>I have cum all over my smooth body.
>"You cum a lot", he laughs
>Deep inside, I was afraid that my family would arrive.
>Thinks in cleaning it fast just in case.
> Fuck it, he's so hot.
>I let him licks me all over again, taking his time.
>He drinks all of it this time.
>I can't explain how good it feels to be licked by him.
>He gives me a naught smile, he's satisfied.
>Gives me a quick kiss, I take some seconds to react.
>We exchange numbers and I explain my family was coming back.
>He understands it, dressed up and left.
>I turn on the TV, watch some crappy South African soap opera.
>It would take two hours and half to my family come back.

"Yeah, South Africa is not for sissies."

I'm 20 now, It was not all guys I've seen on Grindr that were hot. But the ones that were made me have some of the best orgasms I've ever had during my 5 weeks there.

I agree that generally the hot guys you see around seems to be straight "bros". Hot but super conservative.
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>>1432670
i want to believe

i speak dutch so afrikaans probably is less sexy to me, but still
what did he look like?
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>>1432686
He looked like the rugby player from the first gt pic
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>>1432686
Now anon, I have this weird Afrikaans fetish that its almost impossible to find on the internet.
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>>1432701

just install a location spoofer app and open grindr in Johannesburg or some city down there. should be able to meet an afrikaner like that pretty easily. or try planet romeo if nobodies on grindr.
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>>1432670
this is pretty hot aside from the speaking in afrikaans drivel. afrikaans a muggle language if i ever heard one.
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>>1432850
Afrikaans is not a white south african invention. it was a language derived from dutch combined with the languages of the slaves as a way to communicate seeing as they spoke different languages. Then the Afrikaners appropriated it, "cleaned it up" and claimed it. The original language is still spoken in its true form by the mixed race in Western Cape, where its evolved over time, but its written off by whites a "dirty" derivation of THEIR language.
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>>1432891
i know lol, this all just makes the language sound dirtier than it already does in my ears.
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Ninja
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>>1432891
Jy, wies jouse fokken "mixed race"?
Ons is Khoi of Kleurlinge. Fokof jou pienk poes.
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>>1432850
>afrikaans a muggle language if i ever heard one.
And yet, etymologically it's less "muggled" than English.
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>>1433006
lol. Ppl on this forum wont get the word "Khoi". Glad to see ppl embracing their Khoi heritage!
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>>1433006
you ain't coloured! coloured was a term created to describe non white and non-black. you are khoi
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>>1432930
Ninja's dick
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>>1433023
He was probably offended by the fact that 40% of South African women get raped and that the country turned into a hellhole since the end of Apartheid.
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>>1433066
Are you actually suggesting that living under apartheid was NOT a hell-hole?

40% of South African women get raped...where u get ur stats?-.Sunette Bridges?
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>>1433023
bitch please, you dont go on a mass killing of blck ppl because ur offended!
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>>1432039
Let's see what you look like then ;)
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>>1433164
Oscartjie?
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>>1433400
Waterkloof Four. All hott guys
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>>1433017
Is it normal for South Africans to be circumcised or is ninja Jewish or something?
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>>1433436
Its not common for non-religions reasons. he is prob jewish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7T9muqv7bY
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>>1432207
Not sexy..... but sooooo white.
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>>1433390
Steve is dalk jou pa, maar Jurie (Els) is jou oom.
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>>1433426
Moar from that third blond guy?
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>>1432701
Nou toe nou. Drink vir pappa n sletsappie en kom sit op my skoot.
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>>1433619
Reinach Tiedt
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>>1433426
Don't forget the Reitz Four, anon.
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>>1433623
Beter as 'n fokstokkie lol
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>>1433917
Jy se my..... haha
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Frans Steyn.

Went to school with this guy. He is a monster of a man. He was in one of the school hostels , and my friends there reported a monster cock as well.
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>>1433623
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>>1433934
klinkt gewoon geweldig, als een versie van nederlands waar je geen universiteitsstudie voor nodig hebt om het goed te kunnen
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>>1434028
Ja. Heel eenvoudig. Moet net nie die akademiese Afrikaans aandurf nie.

Ons fokkers (fuckers) hier het nog tot in die 1930's Nederlands gepraat in amptelike opset: howe, parlement etc. En toe stem hul die taal uit om Afrikaans te bevorder. n Kak besluit gewees as jy my vra.
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>>1434024
>FrancoisSteyn
any bulge pics?
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>>1433436
>Is it normal for South Africans to be circumcised or is ninja Jewish or something?
Well, according to the WHO half of South Africans are circumcised. The rate varies substantially amongst various ethnic groups. http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/88/12/09-072975/en/
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>>1433017
Unfortunately, probably the only cock this post will ever have.
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>>1434070
I could not find any. But I will add two pics of him mounting George North
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>>1434070
The facial expressions says everything.
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>>1432571
>its gay scene is death
like cape town is any better?
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>>1434095
lol right.
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>>1433436
>>1434094
According to my trawling of Chaturbate, it's a fairly even spread of cut/uncut guys in SA.

I would have thought having Dutch heritage, most would be uncut. But it's probably like Australia and NZ where the practice became popular for a time, and now there's a good mix of different types in each country.
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>>1434418
White African? You do realize that the two are mutually exclusive right?
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>>1434168
Cape Town is pretty gay. Its like Lawyer firms for jews
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Greg Hill and Bentley Morgan from Englishlads are from SA, probably they have some more models from there
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>>1432343
Probably they didn't invented gay porn yet, poor things.
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>>1434441
Wow, that's quite a file name
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>>1433017
I hate that I'd probably suck him off
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>>1434439
>White African? You do realize that the two are mutually exclusive right?
You’re wrong! Africa is a geographical location, not a race. Being Caucasoid does not negate being African.
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>>1434439
Someone failed history.
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>>1434538
In South Africa especially, and in particular Afrikaans, words were invented to differentiate between blacks in Africa (African (Afrikaan in Afrikaans) and whites in Africa Afrikaner(Afrikaner in Afrikaans). This would mean that there is no way that a white South African can be referred to as an Afrikaan (African in English).

This new wave of demanding to be called African is just another weird way for Afrikaners to distance themselves from their inherited evil past. The sad part is that most Afrikaners have no idea about what it means to be African and yet again they want to define something by what they regard as correct - having no regard for the xperience of Africans... Idiotic.
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>>1434439
arrent we all african really tho?
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>>1434812
Well we are African when white people are pushed into a corner and they have to admit past or current injustices...

But when we want to prove that black people are evil/wrong/ineducable/stupid then we are not all Africans and white sstart talking bout how THEY brought stuff to Africa.

So whites can choose when they are African....
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>>1434503
Blacks mostly come from Africa, whites come from Europe.

Why the hell are white ppl determined to change the meaning of terminology they created themselves.
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>>1434766
You’re using geographical and linguistic terms to describe race.

The Berbers of North Africa are a Caucasian people who have lived in Africa for millennia. They’re African, and they’re white.
Just as there are black Europeans, there are white Africans.

European/Asian/African etc. denote geographical origin.
Negroid/Caucasoid/Mongoloid/Australoid are the anthropological racial classifications, even though they’re no longer deemed PC terms.
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>>1434766
What’s “sad” and “idiotic” are people who think they are the final arbiter of what constitutes a real African. For instance, many self-described Africans believe that homosexuality is un-African.
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>>1434952
You know whats sad and idiotic? Debating race with trolls on a gay 4chan image board. You both lose.
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>>1434952
gays were never vilified by Africans...this is something introduced by European influence
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>>1434953
We need porn!
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>>1434953
And yet you're here reading, and commenting. Scroll up and see how many pics Colin's posted. What's your contribution been?
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>>1434956
Next time a gay person is on the receiving end of "corrective rape" I'm sure they'll derive solace from your blame whitey claim.
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>>1434966
I haven't read a single one of your stupid comments, and I was the one posting pictures until you guys ruined it with your dumb argument, delicate online egos and need to get the last word.
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>>1434953
No one is forcing you to stay.
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>>1434971
You'd have already been gone if the mods cared enough to do their jobs, don't act like I'm in the wrong for not wanting useless debates on a porn board. I'm here to fap not to listen to autists pontificate, and so is just about everyone else; yet this is always at the top.
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>>1434970 Calm down Doris. If you had bothered to read my comments you would have seen they were far from "stupid." You might even have learnt something. However, I do hope you enjoyed the 24 pics I posted.
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>>1434975
You could have disproven the theory of relativity in these comments and it would have been equally stupid, that's like saying you would have really enjoyed the poetry I wrote on the bathroom wall if you had just stopped to read it. You're not teaching anyone Professor... lmao. And the fact that you do shows how dumb and delusional you actually are, regardless of the autist knowledge you have on race in Africa.

>omg why you so mad
I have yet to be mad. Just because you're feeling attacked doesn't mean I'm mad, so many keyboard warriors need to learn this.
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>>1434977
*the fact that you think you do
Because you seem like the grammar correcting type. Now let's do anyone who may come to this site (for some reason) a favor and stop bumping this abortion of a thread.
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>>1434441
Dominic Nel aka "James" was their original South African model.
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>>1434977
He's posted the majority of pics here, and corrected some idiotic misconceptions. You, in contrast, have trolled. Shut up and fuck off.
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>>1434992
>pretending to be someone else
Don't make it cringy now.
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>>1434992
>corrected some idiotic misconceptions
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>>1434992
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>>1434968
Stupid retort!
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>>1434995
>>corrected some idiotic misconceptions
more like trying to force own ideas on others..lol
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>>1432038
lmao
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>>1432093
> being this basic
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>>1435358

We have this whitesplaining all the time here in South Africa!
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>>1432093
So why do you get African Americans?
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>>1434958
Indeed
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>>1435366
Tell your mama to stop beating you with the stupid stick.
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>>1435364
>We have this whitesplaining all the time here in South Africa!
For that to be possible, I would need to know the race of "anonymous." But judging by your comments, I think you're in desperate need of intensive remedial intervention.
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>>1435447
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>>1435445
Well if ur saying that ppl born in America is American...blacks in America are born in America..so they should be called just Americans..yet theyare not...in fact many of them have their origin in the islands but still they are called AFRICAN Americans. Explain your argument for this...
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>>1434826
we could all do with a little more choice in our lives
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>>1435036
Iz he a model? Ik i read the file mame im just asking if hes a model or not. Pls dont burn me in NaCl
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>>1435451
Let me say it again, race and geographical origin is not the same thing.

Here’s an example for you – what race is Asian? Is it someone from China? Or perhaps Uzbekistan, or Syria? Or is it someone from India, and if so Northern or Southern India? All these people are Asian, but they are different races.

The same applies to all the other continents. A European can be a member of any race group. As can an African, and an American, and an Asian.

There are four major race classifications in the world: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid and Australoid.
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>>1435587
Yes, he is a model. :)
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>>1435600
Ty for not burning me in NaCl kind sir
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>>1435596

Ok, lets just ignore the last 600 years of history and how its affected the meaning of races.
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>>1431858
as a south african i know why this thread should exist
extra info, we are all still racist here
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>>1432094
i live there, dont come here! unless u have money and u are ok with beating away homeless people with a fucking stick
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>>1436022
its cheap for holidays on american currency though.

But true, only the touristy places are clean and nice. 70% of capetonians life in poverty, hidden about a mile from every main road.
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>>1436030
its not hidden, we all just see it slowly getting gentrified
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>>1436050
who is this "we"? cause ppl actually living there arent seeing this gentrification...
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>>1436022
I live in Cape Town too.
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>>1436054
cool, so how has your area been gentrified and when?
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>>1436072
It has yet to be gentrified. (Table View)
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>>1436295
Alrighty then....
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>>1435587
>dont burn me in table salt

u wot
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>hottest fap thread gets derailed by shitty race banter

never change /hm/os
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Fuck this Here are some NUDES
Here we have Nico, 26, from a small city called Pietermaritzburg
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>>1436519

More Nico
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>>1436520
>>1436519
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>>1436519
>>1436520
>>1436521
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>>1436519
>>1436520
>>1436521
>>1436522
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>>1436519
>>1436520
>>1436521
>>1436522
>>1436523

Nico likes them young, by the way. and is totally versatile
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>>1436519
>>1436520
>>1436521
>>1436522
>>1436523
>>1436524
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>>1436519
>>1436520
>>1436521
>>1436522
>>1436523
>>1436524
>>1436525

Obligatory mirror photo.
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I lost this guy's name, but he's 27, Cape Town, and a total top.
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>>1436527
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>>1436527
>>1436528

Yeah I know the watermark's there, but how could I not?
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>>1436527
>>1436528
>>1436529

This dick wants to FUCK
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>>1436527
>>1436528
>>1436529
>>1436530

Ready or not..
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>>1436527
>>1436528
>>1436529
>>1436530
>>1436531

..and he has a nice butt too
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This is a pair of guys always on the prowl for something new an handsome, even though they're a couple.

First is Andre, 23, Pietermaritzburg
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>>1436536
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>>1436536
>>1436537
Andrew is 'versatile'
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>>1436536
>>1436537
>>1436538

He does have a penis!
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>>1436536
>>1436537
>>1436538
>>1436542
Him and his boyfriend Ivan's dicks
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>>1436536
>>1436537
>>1436538
>>1436542
>>1436544

Andre and Ivan, sitting in the snow...
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>>1436545
>>1436544
>>1436542
>>1436538
>>1436537
>>1436536

I van has a face. I think he's 27, but also from Pietermaritzburg
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>>1436544
>>1436545
>>1436547

Ivan has a BIG dick
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>>1436548
>>1436547
>>1436545
>>1436544

Definitely
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>>1436549
>>1436548
>>1436547
>>1436545
>>1436544

But no ass
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Ridiculously cute bottom from Durban, 22. We're Facebook pals, so the name is fake
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>>1436554

How can such cute boys take such potato-quality photos?
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>>1436554
>>1436556

Dat dick though
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Here we have Justin, also from Pietermaritzburg. He's also 22, and just loves life and sex.
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>>1436560
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>>1436562
>>1436560
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>>1436564
>>1436562
>>1436561
>>1436560
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>>1436567
>>1436564
>>1436562
>>1436560
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>>1436570
>>1436567
>>1436564
>>1436562
>>1436560

Fun loving guy, this Justin!
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>>1436574
>>1436570
>>1436567
>>1436564
>>1436562
>>1436560
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>>1436577
>>1435596

So does the sign attached include black Europeans as well?
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>>1436710
It would exclude all people not classified as white. (The Afrikaans version states, “Only whites.”)

It’s interesting that you chose a sign from the Apartheid era, as most race classifications used by the state have changed since then. For instance, the Apartheid regime at various times referred to black people as kaffirs, natives, or plurals, amongst others.
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>>1436748

Thats it though. For 600 years European has meant white (as this sign shows). When did the change come that whites (esp Afrikaners) now demand to be included in the African identification? especially at a time when historically African people (all over the world) are trying hard to redefine their African identity.

When many white ppl demand to be called African, they want to immediately also demand that black people not bring up the legacy of that designation, or they come up with some logical irrelevant for why they should be called African as well...which makes it even more of a "I don't see colour" bullshit argument.
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>>1436758
I’m not going to repeat myself again about the fallacy of using geographical terms to describe race. This debate started when someone objected to me calling myself African. The idiocy of claiming that a South African citizen is a non-African seems to escape everyone who has argued with me.

I have never, and will never claim to be anything but Caucasian. However, I am as African as anyone else who was born on the continent, and I have the papers to prove it. If you have a problem with that, then maybe you should type the following into google “What are the races in the world” and educate yourself. Hint: African is not a race.
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>>1434032
Wij zeggen ook "fok" en "foking" als vernederlandsing van fuck.

Afrikaans klinkt minder onbegrijpelijk dan sommige accenten hier in NL. Zoals plat limburgs of tukkers.

Echt mooie taal!
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>>1436830
>African is not a race

black african is, and that's what everyone thinks of when you say african

how is this hard for you
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>>1436859
>that's what everyone thinks

So you proclaim to know what "everyone thinks" LOL, OK, Have you ever seen a Berber? You do know where they live, don't you? Also, please tell me what “everyone” thinks an Asian looks like, and an American.

Have you ever been to Africa? (It's 4 am Central African Time at the moment.)
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>>1436868
I get that you're being anal and are referring to yourself based on the geographic area you were born, but pretty much everyone else thinks along racial lines. A person with native Zimbabwean parents isn't racially Chinese if they were born in China
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>>1436875
>pretty much everyone else thinks along racial lines
>>1436859

not that guy but you're a moron.
please shut the fuck up.
go back to your racist containment board
>>>/pol/
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>>1436926
When I say "an African from Zambia" do you think of a white guy?
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>>1436941

When I say "an American from Mississippi" do you think of a white guy?
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>>1436959
yep. Mississippi is 60% white so it makes sense

if you say "think of an African from sub-Saharan Africa" anyone would think you're talking about a black guy
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>>1436859
>>1436830

Colin understands the difference and the terminology very well. I mean he is descended from a group of people that mastered in highlighting the differences between Africans and Europeans, and built a whole government structure and a set of laws to support this.

Now suddenly he has amnesia, and fights anyone who tries to remind him of real world applications of race-identification. What his motives are I don't know...

Which stairs would you take Colin? Because saying that you are African, means that you are not European...
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>>1436875
Considering that neither "Zimbabwean" nor "Chinese" is a race, your example is as confused as you are. Again I ask, what race is an American?
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>>1437053
American is NOT a race. That is why you get Chinese American, African American, etc.

The only ppl tha mostly refer to themselves as just American are white Americans. Gosh, even natives are called Indian American. And that is because America is a creation which denied the existence of the natives there to create a new concept of a new nation made up of people (whites) from anywhere, who wanted to escape the British and something completely new (ie the UNITED states).

Other continents did not go through the same thing. Every where else it was made clear that Europeans did not want to let go of their European identity.

If you refer to a Zimbabwean do you think black or white?
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>>1437027
>saying that you are African, means that you are not European.

Exactly! And that's why I'm not allowed into Europe without a visa. And you wouldn’t be allowed into Africa without one either.

I take it you don't read Afrikaans, you might want to run “net blankes” through google translate.
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>>1437063
Whites Only=Europeans Only which would mean Whites=European

What on earth is so hard to get? If its not, then WHEN and WHY did it change, especially for you s a white South African?
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>>1432264
>forefathers
>South African apartheid only fully ended in 1994
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>>1437057
>American is NOT a race. That is why you get Chinese American, African American, etc.

LOL! So "American" is not a race but somehow "Chinese" and "African" is.

>Gosh, even natives are called Indian American.

I think you mean, Native American. Terms used to describe ethnicities are fluid and change and differ from country to country. Barak Obama, who chose to identify as black, even though his mother is white, could be deemed coloured in present-day South Africa, and white in Brazil. Not everything should be seen through a North American prism.

>If you refer to a Zimbabwean do you think black or white?

Having several family members who are Zimbabwean, I would think of them, and they're white. Just as most of my friends in Canada are black, so when I think of a Canadian I think black.
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>>1437067
As I’ve written before, the Apartheid authorities once referred to black people as Kaffir and plurals. Just because they called, a group of people Hottentot, or coolie or European does not make those terms any more anthropologically correct.
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>>1437069
forefathers though? apartheid has not been a generation ago yet, many of its perpetrators are still alive, teaching their children the same crap. And if they are not, pray do tell why their minds have been changed?

Sure it ended in 1994, and 1 Jan 1995 no more discrimination, right?
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>>1437072
aauuww bless OP, he has transcended and everybody else should be ashamed about using racial identification. lol
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>>1437077
Sorry OP, but whites (not authorities only) referred to black people like that.

Ok, now I see OP's angle..anthropology okay. I don't think anybody else was speaking from that angle.

OP is not absolved. You knew all along what everyone else was talking about!
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>>1437081
I’ll leave the raced-based generalisations to you.

You might want to read up on the South African apartheid referendum of 1992 and the TRC hearings.
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>>1437084
Oh the irony, here we have people who have a problem with white people in Africa calling themselves African... while ogling photos of white Africans.

I’m still waiting for someone to explain how a South African citizen is not African.
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>>1437090
>teaching their children the same crap
Is that the race-based generalization OP is talking about? Thats hardly generalization, tell us when and why and how this has changed.

OP is bring up the 92 referendum: White people in their infinite humility and forgiveness decided to allow equal rights to black people, even if at their own detriment - whites need to be applauded for that!

1992 TRC - a platform created for people who committed apartheid crimes only because the government forced them to commit acts that were totally against their human conscience.

NOT
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>>1437093
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>>1437084
>Sorry OP, but whites (not authorities only) referred to black people like that
Yes, and it makes it no more anthropologically correct than referring to someone as macaquito or griego.
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>>1437096
typical of a white African though...when at the losing end of a discussion...find a completely unrelated angle or even topic (that is correct but not relevant to the current discussion).

OP sounds like this
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPCln9czoys
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>>1437094
You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.

"The TRC was set up by the Government of National Unity to help deal with what happened under apartheid. The conflict during this period resulted in violence and human rights abuses from all sides. No section of society escaped these abuses."

That means the terror attack resulting in my aunt's murdered in the St James Church massacre was covered by the TRC.
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>>1437095
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>>1437097
>typical of a white African

LOL! You're a parody wrapped in a caricature.
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>>1437099
> violence and human rights abuses from all sides

That is correct. BUT
What were the reasons for white violence & human rights abuses against blacks? - racial hatred and white supremacy

What were the reasons for white violence & human rights abuses against whites? - retaliation and a fight for freedom from oppression

So no the two situations were hardly equal.

Let's celebrate your aunt with exactly the same victim status as we do everybody from our communities who were innocent victims of this horrific time.
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>>1437106
I agree, and that is why I would not use the moral equivalence argument.

I responded to a particularly ill-informed claim, with a direct quote from the TRC preamble.
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>>1437108
totally disengaging from it totally makes you sound arrogant though.
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>>1437111
Perhaps it's "typical of a white African" as you, or one of the other anon posters proclaimed.

How is sharing a deeply personal life event "totally disengaging"?

Using non sequitur responses and strawman arguments makes you sound like a dolt, like totally.
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You lot who claim that white South Africans aren't African, here's an individual who claims we're not even white.

LOL! He would eat his own dick before acknowledging the fact that my family have been in this part of Africa longer than his bantu-speaking forefathers.
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>>1437146A
Really...your forefathers have been in frica longer than his forefathers?

Really now, Colin, really?
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>>1437154
Yes, anon, really! There were no Bantu-speaking tribes in >“this part of Africa” (south-western part) when the first members of my family arrived.

Don’t take my word for it, a simple internet search should enlighten you as to how far west Bantu-speakers had migrated by the time Jan van Riebeeck arrived at the Cape.
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>>1437168
You do realize that the Empty Africa Myth has been debunked already?
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>>1437146
>the fact that my family have been in this part of Africa longer than his bantu-speaking forefathers

twak
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>>1437170
Do you realise the “empty-land-myth” refers to the interior of the land, and not the region known today as the Western Cape Province?

Please supply evidence that Bantu-speakers lived at the Cape when the first whites arrived.
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>>1437176
>twak
Put up some evidence to disprove my statment, or shut up, twakie
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>>1437178
So is the Khoi language not a bantu language? What on earth makes Khoi ppl not African like all the other African tribes?
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>>1437190
A simple internet search would tell you that the Khoisan languages are not Bantu languages. Who said the Khoisan weren’t African?

Read what I wrote, before making inane statements.
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>>1437201
What makes the khoi not bantus?
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>>1437204
>What makes the khoi not bantus?
Put that in the search engine of your choice and find out for yourself. Hint: language groups are not race groups.
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>>1437206
So, to make the claim that there were no bantus (blacks) in that part of Africa, you remove one tribe from the definition of bantus? Clever!
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You’re embarrassing yourself. Read what I wrote, then go and educate yourself.
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>>1437209
not that guy, but bantus are migratory people that spread their languages to most of sub saharan africa excluding parts of the western cape, namibia, and botswana. the Khoisan are black, but they are NOT related to the Bantu. completely different language families, and potentially even races
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>>1437093
why the hell are you identifying with a continent

>boy howdy, I sure do feel North American today!
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>>1437221
Why the hell does it hassle you so much?
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>>1437229
it doesn't you're just kind of a goober
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I wonder if those who claim white Africans are somehow non-African are able to acknowledge the parallels between their beliefs with those who claim Gays are non-African.

FYI, in several African countries, homosexuality is punishable by death or life imprisonment.
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>>1437240
And you're more than a little doltish.
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>>1437249
says the guy identifying with a continent as if that's a thing
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>>1437247
There is no parallel between the two actually.

Africans today do not believe that gays are evil because of some antiquated African belief system. In fact, if you study African (not written by Europeans) you will see that there have always been gay or same-sex characters, and they were not killed or imprisoned.

Africans did not have a problem with homosexuality until they were forced to believe in Xtianity which told them that their own religions were evil.
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How many black south africans are in this thread?
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>>1437272
Twatlette, I've been going on ad nauseum that "African" is a geographical term, and not a racial one. You really are as stupid as you sound, aren't you.
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>>1437285

I'm here..very interesting thread, although we need some good fap material too.
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>>1437275
You really don't see the parallel between the two cases of judging someone because they don't fit an image of a "true" African? OK, well perhaps you should concentrate harder. And blaming African homophobia on Christianity is a cop out, as most of the countries in question are Muslim!
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>>1437296

Duhh! True Africans have been FIGHTING for centuries because they did not fit the Europeans' image of a "true" human being.

Islam AND xtianity is in many ways conflicting with african religions.
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>>1437286
>African is a geographical term

yes duh. I'm just calling you a dumb faggot for using that, since normal people don't identify with fucking continents
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>>1437301
If I'm a dumb faggot for being correct then that would make you a tiny imbecilic twat for being incorrect.
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>>1437300
So you're blaming whitey because various African regimes would kill you given half the chance.
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>>1437335
I more blame whitey for having killed and enslaved millions of true Africans because of jesus.
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>>1437301
>since normal people don't identify with fucking continents
Is America a race or a fucking continent, Mr. normal?
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>>1437341
Because of Jesus, or because other tribes were willing to sell them into slavery.
As a matter of interest, have you ever heard of the Barbary slavers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
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>>1437352
omg. do you really want to go through this?

Now you're starting to defend slavery?

So because some tribes traded slaves with europeans it makes whites "less guilty"?
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>>1437363
Calm the fuck down, Dora. No one is defending slavery. It was in response to the baseless claim that "Jesus" was to blame. The link was merely for educational purposes, because quite frankly some posters are embarrassingly ill informed.
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>>1437348
American is a nationality, just like South African

saying you're "Geographically African" means absolutely nothing
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>>1437431
You're the only person to use the phrase "Geographically African" in this entire thread.
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>>1437657

No, but you see thats not ALL you said. Making a statement about how long your family has been here to validate your Africanness is NOT the same as saying its just based on geographical location.
If it was just about a geographical location you were born in, then why would you say something like this? And why would it bother you if the pic in your post's guy brings it up.

Like I say you know exactly what you want to say..that you are just the same type of African as those who are black, in the sense that your heritage is here.

Well, "white Africans" do NOT share an African heritage with black Africans, and the heritage of
"whites in Africa" is NOT African.

No matter how you swing it! The days of white domination, where whatever whites said is regarded as the absolute truth is over mate..the world is now integrated.
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>>1437663
I, for one would be quite interested in meeting a guy who can eat his own dick!
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>>1437663
My statement was in response to an individual who wrote, “Why do you even call them WHITES…” He made no mention of African. I used his words to highlight, that in the eyes of some racists, not only are we not African, we’re not even white! (Just as some view gays as non-African.)

The fact that white people, including my forefathers, were living at the Cape before the arrival of any bantu-speakers (the forefathers of the racist who made the statement) is historical fact.

As for you claims about “African heritage”, if you were paying attention on Saturday (Heritage Day) you would have noticed that there is no ONE African heritage.

>No matter how you swing it! The days of white domination, where whatever whites said is regarded as the absolute truth is over mate..the world is now integrated.

Don’t take my word for the anthropological definition of the various races. As I’ve said to all the other “anons” look up the information for yourself.

I hope in time you’ll be able to realise the hypocrisy of making racist proclamations only to follow them with statement about the world being integrated. Get over yourself; you’re not the arbiter of all things African. And the only white domination I’m into is when I tie up my black lover.
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>>1437687
Yogis do it all the time.
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Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons...

http://www.livescience.com/53613-race-is-social-construct-not-scientific.html
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>>1437702
Is your black lover African?
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>>1437657
Anon, your entire argument is that you're "African" because of where your family is from. You are identifying with a continent, not with South Africa. A guy from Tunisia and Zambia are both "African" but their societies, histories, and cultures are so different that the phrase means absolutely nothing. Hell, if you're from around the cape, you barely have anything in common with someone from Natal.

so being "geographically African", aka you saying you're "African", doesn't make any sense
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>>1437774
Yes. :)
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>>1437799

Anon, he is probably on of those people that will say that Affirmative Action is unfair because it doesn't cater for all Africans, but favours black Africans above white Africans.

Then he would say that white Africans are just as much entitled to Affirmative Action because they have "earned" their title of African.

THIS is the reason we cannot allow this white African thing to progress. There are hundreds of years of associated history that still determines the lives of Africans.

Somebody who in touch with the realities of the African experience would be careful about claiming this title who is not African and black.
Allegedly...!

>>1437820
Gave you had a real conversation with your black lover regarding this? If so, how do other black people (Africans) respond to your identification?

Also, do you refer to your husband/boyfriend as a black African, an African or a black man?
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>>1431858
Any black Europeans out there? Or Indian Australians?
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>>1437822
affirmative action is dumb too, anon
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>>1437799
Anon, I’ve signed my posts with my name; I have not used the nonsensical term “geographically African.” What I have said, several times, is that geographical terms should not be used to describe race groups. As in, “what race is… [fill in the name of the continent of your choice]

Of course I identify as South African, that’s why, for the fourth time, I’ll challenge anyone to explain how a South African citizen can be non-African. I have yet to receive a response. Perhaps you’ll like to answer.
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>>1437822
“Most anthropologists recognize that there are four major race classifications in the world, which include caucasian, mongoloid, negroid and australoid.” (As per a simple internet search, you lot should try it sometime.)

You can stamp your feet, scream and weep, call me names and wank angrily, and these classifications will still be there, and African will still not be a race.
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>Anon, he is probably on of those people…

Please, don’t presume facts not in evidence. Affirmative action aimed at uplifting poor people I support 100%. I do, however, believe that it should not include “tenderpreneurs.”

>Gave you had a real conversation with your black lover regarding this? If so, how do other black people (Africans) respond to your identification?

My partner and my friends who happen to be black are widely travelled and well read, so they’re well aware of what constitutes a race and what does not. They are proud of their heritage, and very secure in who they are. My partner worked in Morocco for years and became well acquainted with the Berber people. (A group of Caucasoid people who have been living in Africa for millennia.)

>Also, do you refer to your husband/boyfriend as a black African, an African or a black man?

I refer to him by name, but I would describe him as a tall, slim, dark-skinned, gay, black South African whose mother tongue is Xhosa and who was born near Butterworth.
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>>1432122
Where are his eyebrows?
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>>1437871
White (South) Africans were very well educated, well-read and widely traveled...and still they fought to keep something as stupid as apartheid alive.

So, I'm sorry but none of that makes you intelligent.

And you are NOT of the Berber people.

In CLOSING, White is a race, whites are not from Africa. Its like saying bring Indian elephants and Siberian tigers to an African zoo, and their offspring born here are African elephants and tigers.

Please try to deal with your European heritage and everything that comes with it.
Its nice that you and your friends (that do not represent the rest of the world) have transcended race. Now understand how the rest of the world operates. We all understand anthropology to an extent and its all very nice and educational - but as you know thats not the way the world works.
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>>1437871

So when you get American citizenship you will be African American?
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>>1438099
>In CLOSING, White is a race, whites are not from Africa.

Oh honey, you're wrong on both counts. White is a colour, not a race, and we're ALL originally from here.

Please deal with the massive chip on your shoulder and your insecurities. >>1438110
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>>1438110
This issue has caused people to be kicked out of their colleges and schools. A white Mozambican took his college to court after he was expelled for calling himself African American. ...And yet, “According to US Census Bureau data, immigrants from Africa generally do not self-identify as African American. The overwhelming majority of African immigrants identify instead with their own respective ethnicities (~95%). “
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Still waiting on an answer: I’ll challenge anyone to explain how a South African citizen can be non-African.
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>>1438157
Don't you think you've challenged enough people though?

I think its safe to say that not many people agree with you, and that you have found and decided your reasons for your assertion.

>>1438146
And conveniently you move inbetween different historical times to find credence for your argument. Next you're going to say that whites used to be black when they were originally in Africa?

Your demand to be acknowledged as African has more to do with defending why people can not tell you to go back to Europe than it is about integrating yourself into the culture of Africans. Even your little rant about slavery was about how the Europeans were not the only ones that practiced slavery. An African, who has a shared history of slavery would understand the different applications and strategy of slavery performed through the ages. The shared understanding ad experiences of the African's history is a deeply shared commonality among all Africans. You seem to not have this (you haven't displayed it here so I could be wrong).

So being an African is not about just being from some continent, its about a deeply shared history and connection to a pre-colonialist pride and heritage that has been ripped away, not acknowledged, which Africans all over the planet are trying to regain as an identity. That is something that most Africans are not ready for whites to include themselves into.

With all your anthropology knowledge one would expect you to grasp that.

https://www.johndenugent.com/images/little-black-boys-crowd-around-little-blond-nordic-boy2.jpg
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>>1438155
Remember, the issue has caused millions of ppl to not be allowed even to university
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>>1438203
Your weird little diatribe has caused me much amusement, thank you! You sound like you did a semester of ethnic studies at community college, hence the proliferation of your “deeply shared” feelings with hundreds of millions of strangers.

Perhaps you should ask a classmate or lecturer to assist you answering my question.

I’m travelling to Khorixas with BBF, and he wants domination and attention. There’s no internet, so in my absence, I hope you don’t run into any of those homophobes who proclaim, like you do, on who is and isn’t a “real” African.
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>>1438263
As does yours!
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For all you self-appointed arbiters of what constitutes a “real” African, I suggest you peruse the South African Constitution paying special attention to the Bill of Rights, or read erstwhile President Mbeki’s “I am an African” speech. Or familiarise yourselves with the Freedom Charter, particularly the first line.

“We, the People of South Africa, declare for all our country and the world to know: that South Africa belongs to all who live in it, both black and white.”
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