Is beauty objective or subjective?

What is beauty?

>>929719
Good

It is mostly objective im various points. Relative to us humans. People are just butthurt about being ugly.

>>929709
Subjective.

>>929709
both

objective because it is caused by neurons and shit

subjective because it varies significantly from human observer to human observer

>>929740
>People are just butthurt about being ugly
Could you elaborate?

>>929740
>It is mostly objective im various points. Relative to us humans.
what

It is subjective by definition.

>>929719
If you have to define beauty then it stands to reason that it is subjective.

>>929747
Aren't you saying our impressions of beauty objectively exist, but the quality that we call "beauty" is actually subjective?

It's subjective, but that doesn't mean every view is exactly as right as every other.

>>929750
Well beauty is a human construct, but that doesn't mean it is subjective for us. Many mamals (and most animals who need gender dimorfism) are also selective on key components.

>>929749
Saying beauty standards are just a societal norm as some sort of justification for you not being on that norm is a vacuous statement because societal norms are not necessarily stupid or bad.

>>929781
So it's like when people reject moral absolutism because they can't control themselves, or don't like the fact that part of them disapproves of their attitudes or actions?

>>929709
It's objective in that certain properties of a work verifiably reflect a more articulate and meaningful aesthetic but subjective in that its meaning to the observer still has to be qualified by their personal ability to resonate with it. It's because art is a communicative form of expression, there are equal burdens on the author of a message and the receiver.

It's objective in that it is presented to consciousness for analysis.
It's subject in that it is produced by consciousness and cannot be produced by anything but consciousness.

objectively, some humans can experience an emotion that they refer to as "beauty" under certain circumstances. the feeling itself is subjective.

>>929815
>the feeling is subjective
>not every sexually aroused man gets a boner.

>>929709
>Is 3DPD objective or subjective?

>>929825
But the sentence "Every sexually aroused man gets a boner" is analytically true, anon

>>929815
> Objectively experiencing something
wew lad

>>929838
>muh 2D
Well if you only see the same generic face over and over, you will obviously think it is objective.

>>929709
Both.

Objectively beautiful, the only thing that's subjectivity is one's innate receptivity/sensitivity to beauty

>>929709
Easy.

In theory, we can be objectively know what a given person will find beautiful.

Given our brain's complexity, each individual is unique, and so you can say it's subjective in that sense.

>>929744
you are one ugly shitposter

>>929750
Things like bone structure are pretty much objective; high cheekbones, prominent jaw etc.