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Were European and Japanese nobles the only cunts autistic about heraldry? Especially Europe (motherfucking Armigery) Seems that other civilizations' nobles did not bother with them.

Like, what about China? Indians? Muslims? Did Rome have heraldry?
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>tfw this hangs on wall next to the Jack
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>>833251
>Part 1
In China's case, their feudal aristocracy got BTFO when the Empire was established and the meritocratic aristocracy took its place.

That said, when China had feudal nobles prior the Imperial Age, the closest equivalent of a feudal coat of arms would be the character of the name of your state/duchy/march/county

Which makes sense: it's already a logographic Character system. Although State Names were in Seal-Script. That was in Ancient China.

Pic related: the State of Qin. Shit would be on the King's Seal: the primary symbol of state authority. Chinese flags tend to be mere signalling devices.
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>>833272
>Part 2
During the Empire, the only heraldic symbol remaining was the Dragon, and was associated with just one guy, the last Chinese nobleman: the Emperor and his ilk.

By the late Imperial Age (1000 AD-1911 AD), it got formalized. The Emperor's dragon is to have five claws. His immediate relatives will have 4 claws, while the res can use 3 claws. Drawing a five clawed dragon for yourself is an act of sedition funnily enough.

This is the reason why non Chinese dragons like Korean/Japanese/Vietnamese/Bhutanese ones never use five fingered dragons. It's like copying the US Flag.
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>>833272
>an image of a man lowering his ass onto a wonky trident is the Kings Seal in China

baka no wonder the commies overthrew those faggots
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>>833251

I did read something akin among the aristoi of the ancient Poleis. But, sadly, I dont remember shit.
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>>833284
What if someone drew six claws on his dragon? checkmate
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>>833303
It's not the amount of claws m8, its the number. 5 is bretty auspicious in Chinese numerology.
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>>833251
Persia definitely did
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>>833251
Family name was a big deal in Rome.
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>>833251
Romans didn't have coat of arms for families and dynasties but each Legion had a specific emblem on their shields and banners.

Its possibly where the practice of CoAs originated as Germanigger Tribes started invading and copying Roman shit. Except they don't have legions due to warriors simply following a nobleman around. So certain images became associated with certain nobles.
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Why in the fucking hell do so many Euros use lions?
The only ones to exist in Europe were in Greece and they got killed off.
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>>833568
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>>833251
I wish the chinese kept this
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>>834608
There are (or were) plenty of other amazing animals to choose from though.
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