Mengde did nothing wrong.

Truer words have never been spoken

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>>471038

>did nothing wrong
>lost at the Battle of Chibi

pick one

Literally the best villain ever. Because of Confucian insistence on Ren and De, he couldn't just act tyrannically. So we have a very nuanced character, someone who knows how to motivate the common soldiers, who understands basic psychology, and who looks after the families of his followers, even the ones he kills for political gain.

It's hilarious that western works haven't learned from him, working for a villain is always "you have failed me for the last time" kind of stuff, whereas this guy was actually on top of his game and there was actually an incentive for people to work for him.

>>471063

Actually it was Pang Tong who suggested chain linking the ships. The same Pang Tong who becomes a minister under Liu Bei. Hella suspicious, amirite?

If I know nothing about that era of Chinese history outside of having played a fuckload of Dynasty Warriors 5 empires who were the real major players worth reading about?

He really didn't. It was his son who fucked everything up.

>>471077

Obviously i need to brush up on my history

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>>471120
The Dynasty Warriors games are actually pretty historically accurate

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>>471074
>>>>>>>>>villain

I love the three kingdoms show and haven't played dynasty warriors. where should I start?

>>471077
Fire arrows can't melt wood beams
Red Cliffs was an inside job!

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>>471131

>that comment
>with that picture

>>471038
Where could I find the best translation for The Romance of Three Kingdoms?

>>471077
Choosing wrong advisers also falls into doing wrong.

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>>471131

>>471459
There are two translations for the novel, the Moss Roberts and the Brewitt-Taylor versions. I haven't read the book yet so I cant tell you which version is better, but the Roberts version uses the Pinyin names we all know while the BT version translates the names as Tsao Tsao, Chuko Liang, etc.

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>>471063
>Liu Bei
>Calling anyone an armchair strategist

He was the biggest military jobber before he got some skilled tacticians. What sort of idiot thinks it's a good idea to place his entire army in a forest in the middle of summer when he saw the damage fire could do at red cliffs.

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>>472281

Don't be mean, he tried his best.

>>472342
>Throw only heir on floor
>Get mad when brain damage makes him stupid