What does /his/ think of outlaws and murderers as folk heroes?

File: 1295568406_75726a28d8_z_by_badmillennial-d6qjbam.jpg (94KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 640x480px

i think some are a testament to human endurance and ingenuity.

like a natural disaster.

>outlaws and murders
>worthy of the veneration they receive
Gee, what do you think OP?

If Billy the Kid is a folk hero I don't see why Ted Bundy shouldn't be one too.

>>427891
>think of... murderers
They're murderers.
>>worthy of veneration
No.

>>427976
But it happened a long time ago so it's okay

>>427891
Is Billy the Kid venerated? I suppose you could say Peckinpah did in Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, but that was him making a film about the death of the West through a more human angle than The Wild Bunch, and chose it as a story to do so.

Isn't nearly all of what he did exaggerated or made up anyway?

>>427891
Go read Hobsbawm's Bandits, then post an interesting thread.

The landschlekt are pretty respected.

Jesse James is and was a hero, to the point that the guy who killed him in the name of the law was ridiculed for the rest of his life as a coward and murdered.

File: ned kelly armour.jpg (34KB, 316x421px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 316x421px

Ned Kelly is one of, if not the most, popular people in Australia's history. He's seen as a working class hero who stood up to the establishment, specifically the thuggish cops at the time. Kind of an Australian-Irish Robin Hood character in armour who robbed banks and killed police.

File: Ned_kelly_armour_library.jpg (3MB, 1840x3264px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1840x3264px

>>428633
That's quite a story, the wikipedia page is long but worth the read.

>>428563
>Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

Such a great film, actually most of Peckinpah's films, particularly his Westerns, are amazing. The death of Wild West and the closing of the frontier/the arrival of modern civilization is definitely a common theme to his work.

>>428751
It's easy to see why everyone here idolises him isn't it. It's quite a story. Australians are very much a supporter of what we perceive as the underdog for some reason. But still, he was a murderer who robbed people for a living. He would just be a footnote in history if not for the armour.

>>428963
Incompetent murderer who fucked up bank robberies and killed some police. The more interesting question is why Australian folk culture loves a man most notable for being a cop killer, despite his gross incompetence.

>>428967
Because FTP

>>428973
ACAB.

File: das it mane.jpg (52KB, 500x494px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 500x494px

>>428978

>>428967
The armour makes for great action figures

File: hiram2_2_med.jpg (159KB, 697x840px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 697x840px

http://archive.bangordailynews.com/2005/12/19/howards-hermit-former-great-northern-paper-employee-finds-only-known-photo-of-hiram-johnson/

Tfw my dad would go past his camp to go fishing when he was a child...

File: big man.jpg (801KB, 1504x1130px) Image search: [Google]

801KB, 1504x1130px

wouldn't call him a murderer (some would) but certainly an outlaw for most of his life

How about slightly more modern outlaws, like Bonnie and Clyde? They're extremely romanticized.

>>427945
Billy the Kid was no saint, but comparing him to Ted Bundy is idiotic.

>>428963
>He would just be a footnote in history if not for the armour.

His use of language, especially in the Jerilderie Letter, sets him apart from any other outlaw in history

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ned_Kelly

He is basically the only real-life Robin Hood who ever existed

>>428967
>Incompetent murderer who fucked up bank robberies

His robberies were successful though. It was his last stand at Glenrowan that was a spectacular catastrophe

>>428620
The Jesse James/Robin Hood myth was manufactured entirely by buttravaged Southerners

You won't find a single historian these days who views Jesse James in a positive light

File: Emiliano_Zapata.jpg (32KB, 347x499px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 347x499px

>>427891
>Are any of them actually worthy of the veneration they receive?
Pancho Villa and that's basically it.

>inb that's Emiliano Zapta

I know, I don't have a picture of Pancho Villa and am too lazy to go search and save one.

Deal with it.

You know what he looks like, use your imagination.

File: 557px-Jesse_james_portrait.jpg (46KB, 557x767px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 557x767px

>>433072
But he was so handsome...

File: article1434020225.jpg (55KB, 586x587px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 586x587px

Short answer, yes

File: Tano_Nikolov_cheta.jpg (75KB, 1024x718px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 1024x718px

>>427891
>Are any of them actually worthy of the veneration they receive?
They are when they removed kebab.

>>427891
Why do people like action movies?

File: image.jpg (89KB, 600x400px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 600x400px

>umad?