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Alexander the "Great"

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Between 800bce and 500bce the Greeks develop hoplite tactics based around tight formations of spear and shield armed infantry. Hoplite tactics proves to be really effective against the forces and soldiers of the Persian Empire and so the Greeks were able to repulse the Persian assaults. The Persians never got around to adopting these tactics on their own barring a few Hellanics in eastern Anatolia or adjusting their tactics and gear to deal with them. Hoplite tactics would continue to be incrementally refined over the next 150 years by the greeks and latter the macedonians. Eventually with a force composed of Hoplites the Alexander of Macedon and his infantry managed to defeat the armies of the Achaemenid Empire and get the locals to exchange a Persian ruler for a Macedonian one and his greek/macedonian generals after everything fell apart after his death.
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>>417672

Which is of course, why say, Xenophon's troops stuck around and conquered the entire Persian Empire instead of trying to make a run for it back to Greece and fighting (usually but not always sucessfully) their way back to the black sea coast.


I mean, that Hoplite advantage was all they needed ,right?
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I don't see your point. Nobody intelligent disregards the fact that Alexander inherited a unique state and a unique army from his father and that his accomplishments are due primarily to what he was working with. This seems like a strawman.
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What are you on about?
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>>417672

Mate apart from maybe Jesus of Nazareth there is no one person in history who has had a greater impact on human history than Alexander. He is the model of a conqueror and hero.

He is also the closest thing to Plato's philosopher king that has ever existed.

Go back to reddit, and take John green with you
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>>417694
See this fellow
>>417719
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>>417740
That doesn't contradict anything I said in >>417688, Alexander couldn't have been that important man if the Greeks, specifically Athens, hadn't developed philosophy, hoplite warfare, and an economy capable of putting the Alexandrian army in the field in the first place.
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>>417672


COMPANION CAVALRY DEFEATED THE PERSIANS
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Yes. Darius 1 is also referred as "Darius the Great", because there were multiple Dariuses after him in the Achaemenid and other Asiatic Empires, but he was the most relevant one that most people refer to, thus he's called "the Great" to obviously differentiate from the other Darius'.

As with Alexander the Great, there were two Alexanders as the King of Macedon before him, and a few after him, but they didn't really come as close to his achievements, so most mentions of a king named Alexander from Macedon between post-Hellenic era to now has been referring to Alexander the Great.

This also occurs with pretty much every monarch dynasty that has multiple leaders with the same name. It isn't as much as a title created by reverence alone to a figure, but a unanimous decision to short-keying references by writers and historians to help reference readers.

Not to mention a lot of readers in antiquity, and readers of works from antiquity now, would know that "Alexander" was also another name for Paris from the Trojan War, who would also kind of confuse the mess more.
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>>417672

1) the persians had plenty of hoplites of their own

2) the kardakes were by the time of alexander described as imitation hoplites

3) the persians fielded cataphracts

Not exactly pushovers
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>>417795
Yeah but hoplites with wicker hoplons aren't exactly the same.
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>>417755
Do you realize how stupid your argument is?
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>>417755
Are you doubting Alexander's greatness for the fact he used readily available knowledge to his benefit?
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