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>>383795
and yet they still won.

>>383802
the question is how in the fuck did Mao pull it off?

>>383795
Learn what cadre is.

>>384154
Rear guard actions, brilliant combat engineering, ideological hardness.

>>384154
Soviet support
Japanese BTFOing the Nationalists making them weaker

>>384260
The Soviets did not, and were unable to support the Long March. The Soviet position at the time was for explicit support for KMT. For fucks sake, do you read?

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>>384154
Communist agents in the U.S. government shifted American foreign policy to support the communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Mission

You can't make this shit up.

>"And the impressive personal qualities of the Communist leaders, their seeming sincerity, and the coherence and logical nature of their program leads me, at least, toward general acceptance of the first explanation -- that the Communists base their policy toward the Kuomintang on a real desire for democracy in China under which there can be orderly economic growth through a stage of private enterprise to eventual socialism without the need of violent social upheaval and revolution."

People like Owen Lattimore and Edgar Snow should have been killed, like the Rosenbergs.

>>384306
I'm very stale on my Chinese history but I'm pretty sure Mao did work with the Soviets at some point of time because I distinctly recall that he was mad at the Soviets for pulling out their support during the aftermath of the Great Leap Foward

I might be missing something here

>>384340
The Long March was in the 1930s.

The Great Leap Forward was in the 1950s.

You're missing the ENTIRE Chinese Civil War.

>>384375
I know the Chinese Civil War, I just completely forgot what the Soviets leaned towards during each time period

>>384385
Well until after the withdrawal from Manchuria they leant KMT.

>>384312
I don't get this, the Rosenbergs spied on us and betrayed us to the USSR. These guys were dishonest apologists for a movement that would later kill millions. Bad, but not espionage at all. Lying during diplomatic missions is basically expected, isn't it?

>>384312
You forget the KMT was horribly shitty. I read a book and it was pretty much clusterfuck to clusterfuck to clusterfuck.

KMT leadership was never unified or as single minded as the communist the KMT leadership were too busy fighting each other to either, fix China or fight the communist.

What's a good book about the Chinese Civil War? I'm basically a smart guy but I don't have any background in Chinese history.

>>384312
Are you that faggot who called General Stilwell a Communist sympathizer for not sucking Kai-shek's dick?

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>>384531
>I'm basically a smart guy

>>384671
Shrak pls

>>384260
This.

/thread

>>383795
Long March is some serious shit

i dont get why the CCP hasn't made some kind of epic movie or miniseries about it by now

It'd be pretty great to watch

>>384260
>>385635
Nipnongs attacked the Chingchongs in 36, OP says the march was 34-35

>>384553
i was in that thread too, its probably him lel

>>385659
they did.

>>384154
Popular support.

>>385664
they survived the march
they won after the war, the war between commies and nationalists ended to concentrate on the japs, japs blew the fuck out of the nationalist military and commies took over post war because of all the people who they recruited

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>you will never be a chinese warlord

Shit time to be alive

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>>383795

>>385664
Japan attacked China in 37.

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>>384154
>Mao
See that's your problem: Mao didn't pull it off. He was a fucking politician not a soldier.

Look back at your picture OP and look up the names "Zhu De" and "Peng Dehuai." They're the real geniuses behind the Long March. Peng will be later responsible for the UN withdrawal from North Korea in the Korean War.

And you know how Mao rewarded that magnificent bastard? He sacked him and placed him under house arrest because he feared his popularity within the army. Which led to the retarded casualty rates during the Sino-Vietnamese border conflicts in the 70's as all the competent officers were either in gulag or fired from the military

>>384154
His supporters were simply more committed to his cause than the nationalists were to theirs. Chiang Kai-Shrek led classical anti-communist alliance from right wing fascists to liberal idealists who wanted democracy. Large in number, they were never a cohesive group.

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>>383795
That's on par for the course

>>389071
Sounds like Mao took a page out of Stalin's book there.

>>389071
Zhu De was never purged. No shout out to Lin Biao the basement dweller in chief.

>>389230
France and china w'r not relly frnd ^^

>>384154
He was on the right side of history.

>>389904
Peng was fucked the most because he dared to speak out against Mao

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>>389230
>Wang Debang

>>389230
>battle of the barrier
how are the british thugs wrecking shit in macau, wasn't that supposed to belong to portugal?

>>389230
To be fair the initial PLA advance in Korea was very successful. The longest retreat made by the US Army in its history desu. Its after this when Mao became convinced that the People's War was uncounterable that they started fucking up.

Also the Qing Dynasty was the JUSTest period of any Empire in history I think, even worse than the Ottomans.