why didnt the Romans incorporate the Germanic peoples in their empire?

Ask Varro

>>372850
They did.

>>372856
Varus*

>>372863
the ones in germania

>>372850
They tried to organize them into kingdoms, and discouraged the nomadic, tribal behaviors of their ancestors.

>>372850
freed slaves couldn't be let loose to conspire against their former masters, so they were made citizens and given bread and circus

didn't they use germanic mercenaries who later settled in Rome? Or were those Celts?

>>373111
both AFAIK

Afaik the Germanic tribes were really too barbaric and simply couldn't be assimilated or Germania wasn't profitable land to occupy.

>>372850
Western European civilization is due to the Romans incorporating the Germanic peoples into their empire.

It just takes longer for culture to conquer a people than a government to conquer them. The Roman government came and went before the culture of civilized, Mediterranean-style government permeated the tribal Germanic life.

The spirit of the Roman Empire itself was relocated, and the Frankish people became the new drivers of that empire. So, despite the maymay that the Holy Roman Empire was neither blank nor blank or blank, it was in fact ordained by the spiritual head of Rome, carrying on the spirit of their once conquerors, and more centralized than ever before.

>>373178
Forgot to mention the Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae, which was the continuing political and spiritual conquest of Rome, after it had been transferred into the Franks.

Weren't the Germans who gave the Western Empire its killing blow technically attempting to present their claims to the senate? (meaning they considered themselves Romans)

>>372850
There's more continuity between them than you'd think. The fall of the Empire is a process that took hundreds of years. Still, through Byzance, the empire survived and thrived while the west was outclassed by the dynamism of the oriental empire trade and culture.

>>372868
They had nothing of worth.

>>373240
Alaric sieged Rome seeking to be in a strong place to negotiate being given a post in the military.

Because they were dirty barbarians that would bring about the end of the empire.

>>373443
see >>373252
tho i think that the Holy Roman Empire was just a name instead of Holy Christian empire or Holy Germanic empire. they claimed to be the descendants of Christian Rome, not the other Ancient one