Everyone talks about socialism vs capitalism, but what I want

When we become illiterate and lose the internet you fucking nerd.

Feudalism provides less services and requires less resources than state centralism.

It'll return whenever the economic surplus in our society declines to such an extent that we can no longer sustain a higher level of social complexity.

Pretty much the only public service feudalism provides is security, and people want more than security.

In addition, a feudal society will generally lose against a centralized state, in terms of both economic and military competition.

We saw this before, when Roman imperialism was replaced by feudalism in the first place. As Europe became poorer, a state became impossible, and people turned to local lords for security.

As prosperity returned to Europe, states began to emerge again and people began to escape from the feudal system towards systems of government that provided more for them.

>>3389018
So post WW3?

>>3389023
Maybe.

As I alluded to, if you're still feudal and the other guy isn't, you're going to have a bad time.

So you'd expect that if WW3 happens and nobody is able to throw together a functional government, you'd end up with a patchwork of local warlords, defense pacts, and patronage politics.

But then if people start recovering economically, whoever grows out of feudalism first will either beat the shit out of everyone else, or scare them so badly that they abolish it voluntarily in an effort to survive.

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>>3388163
>what I want to know is when is feudalism as an economic system coming back?

>>3389018
Decentralization can be a great benefit sometimes.

>>3389067
Which is why Alaric and Odoacer were able to beat up the Romans.

Decentralization is a response to economic collapse.

Economic collapse is often caused by unsustainable amount of rent seeking in a complex society where there is no other nearby complex society to absorb a collapsed power.

>>3389067

Decentralization for the sake of decentralization is usually great for the local nobility/aristocracy, shitty for everyone else.

>>3389051
Anarchy is the best way to achieve feudalism atm, unless techno-feudalism pans out (pls).

>>3388163
We'll probably see the rise of private corporatism in our lifetime. Imagine living your life as a worker bee in a corporate hive, living a privileged existence over the innumerable poor who live outside the pristine walls of your compound, kept at bay by automated machine turrets and zealous security patrols armed with the latest weaponry.

>>3389148
I want real life dune

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>>3389148

>>3389321
>Tfw you will never patrol the ducal palace grounds for harkonnen spies
>Tfw you will never be the foreman of a spice crawler
>Tfw you will never get into a knife fight against harkonnen agents
>Tfw you will never live in a fremen cave and worship shai-hulud