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if we traveled back in time to 1938 and gave the soviets the

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if we traveled back in time to 1938 and gave the soviets the blueprints for the T-54, tools and machines needed for it and ammo, would soviet been able to take over germany before the war even started?
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>>3375832
>has better frontal armour than the king tiger
>has better cannon than the king tiger
>has lower profile than a stug
>has the mobility of a T-34
>has a good amount of ammunition and fuel
>weighs only about 30 tons
>it has an easy name to pronounce

why were nazishit engineers so shit at engineering? why was the T-54 the best post ww2 tank?
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>>3375960
don't forget that you can repair or replace the transmission unlike other nazishit tanks

nazis btfo
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>>3375960
>made 9 years after the war in a country that wasn't being bombed every day
gee i wonder why its better than a king tiger
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No
Soviets industry at that time did not have the ability to produce high quality steel or any other metals in sufficient quantities. They also did not have sufficiently trained workforce to work in those kind of factories. It might work if you provided all the tanks and ammunitions for them, but I doubt they could do anything with that, since there army organization was trash at that time.
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>>3375832
Probably they would send you to gulag for knowing too much.
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>>3375960
Good to see /wtg/ memes have made it here onto /his/.
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>>3375832
It's funny because the Russian army was in fact more mechanized than the Germans and had superior armour but still lost.
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>>3376013
>Russian army was in fact more mechanized than the Germans and had superior armour but still lost.
???????????
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>>3376013
Double Bullshit in one Sentence. Not Bad
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>>3376048
Jesus they are so fucking delusional
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>>3376048
>>3376090
>>3376089
It was more mechanized. Soviets had more tanks than entire world combined.
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>>3376128
Now can you provide a source for that?
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>>3376194
Not him but pic related

from: Russian Armour in the Second World War: Rare photographs from Wartime Archives by Michael Green
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>>3376128
>Mechanization means more tanks
Lad...

Also in Barbarrosa only the T34 and KV1 were "better" than the german tanks, these being a handfull (tho they could replace loses faster), the rest were the T26 and BT series which were inferior to the Panzer III
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>>3376048
The German Army never had a fully mechanized organic division 1941-1945.
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>>3376586
What do you mean?

The Panzer divisions were fully motorized until late 1941.
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>>3376675
They had some horse recon platoons but mostly were being replaced by motorcycles
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>>3376420
>which were inferior to the Panzer III
See pic. The panzer III's wasn't the only tank the germans used, most of their tanks were outdated as well.

That makes a total of 972 Panzer III's out of 3055 tanks, if you exclude command vehicles and flame tanks, out of which only 707 carry the 50mm gun. The 6th, 7th (had the largest number of tanks), 8th, 12th, 19th and 20th panzer division had no panzer III's at all. They were either inferior or comparable to Soviet BT and T26 series.

The panzer III was as well on the route of being outdated in 1941, with its inability to fit a larger turret and fit the 75mm anti-tank gun, the germans stopped making them after 1942, only producing 64 conventional panzer III's in 1943 and production was shifted to Stug III's.

>Also in Barbarrosa only the T34 and KV1 were "better" than the german tanks, these being a handfull
At the start of hostilities, the Red Army had 967 T-34 tanks and 508 KV tanks
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>>3376013
The Red Army had abolished its mechanized corps in 1939 and was scrambling to reconstitute them when Barbarossa started. Their force structure was only "more mechanized" on paper. Very few of their divisions were fully equipped and reorganized by June 1941.
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>>3377264
Also 50% of Red Army tank losses in 41 were mechanical breakdown, not enemy action. Having 20,000 tanks means fuck all when they aren't combat ready.
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>>3376128
You're technically correct.The soviets had 20000 tanks IIRC,but most of these were very worn out,and the new tanks had too few rounds of ammo.
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>>3375967
> Produced: 1946–1981

Try 1 year after the war Hans
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>>3376236
>>3376128
Same guy as >>3377703.Here's the source http://tankarchives.blogspot.com.br/2015/07/common-questions-red-army-afvs-in.html
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