Why is Central Asian architecture so comfy?

>all that beige
Yuck

>>3368295
beige is the thinking mans shade

>>3368295
beige and blue is a nice combination

>>3368290
It's all Persian architecture.

>>3368290
bump

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>>3368364
post sexy islamo-persian architecture

>>3368364
arabized persian architecture

I don't speak art/architecture all that well, so maybe there's terms for this I'm unaware of, but what I like about it is its "negative" quality. Those buildings look like they've been hollowed out, or built "into," rather than added on. It's very inviting. Vaginal.

>>3368399
I agree, everything about it feels very open and it always directs the eye upwards towards the sky

>>3368399
same, I also like that the there is nothing imposing behind the initial entrance to the mosque like you would see in most western cathedrals. It feels like you are entering into a world beyond your grounded 3 dimensional senses. Weird how some religions try to convey the power and beauty of god through architecture while others try to express the plane of god being inaccessible to a human mind only looking for answers in his immediate reality. You are entering into a spiritual world walking into that mosque

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I love Persian architecture, imagine after travelling through the desert you come to a space like pic related, must be very satisfying

>tile patterns

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>>3368378
Looks like you got Ahmaded

>>3368814
???

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Bukhara and Samarkand at their peaks were probably some of the most impressive cities on earth

>>3368854
Don't mind the frogfaggots. They're impaired.

>>3368383
What does that even mean? Tell me how anything there besides the minarets (none of which looked like that in Arabia before the Persians) reflect Arab architecture.

>>3368857
Yeah, although Timur's method of beautifying his capital makes me laugh. He'd invade new lands, murder anyone, aside from the stonemasons, architects etc, and bring them to Samarkand to build new wonders for him.

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>>3368290
2000 bc Central Asia

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>>3368290
>>3368378
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>>3370569
comfy/10

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I'm just going to liven up this potentially awesome thread by posting a bunch of pics, don't mind me.

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>>3372938
Shame most of your post are literal ruins, they would be fully marbled and tiled in their original condition

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>>3372960
There is beauty in decay, what only sparkles does not live.

>>3372970
Looks neat.

Nice thread.

>>3372887
>>3372889
What's this structure?

Why is there so much blue?
Was there a lot of lapis lazuli?

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>>3372973
Not as good as the original

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>>3372988
When was this built?

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>>3372977
Burana Tower in Kirgistan

>>3372973
THICC

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>>3372977
Another pic

>>3373020
Is it a minaret?

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>>3372987
Chinese influence, inspired by Chinese porcelain, influencing pretty much most of Persia-central asia culture post mongol era
>>3372994
15th century

>>3373022
Yes, it's 1200 years old.

>>3372987
http://www.mircorp.com/tilework-of-the-silk-road/

"The colors of tiles have their own significance. Blue was the dominant color in Samarkand, symbolizing the world of ideas and intellect during Timur’s era. Over time, those blue tiles came to be the color of mourning in Central Asia – appropriate in the Gur-Emir and other mausoleums."

>>3373059
Was that bombed? What happened?

never understood why central assia threads arent more frequent on his

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>>3373066

Nope, just restored in a super ugly way

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>>3373066
Decay

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>>3373066
>>3373081

Oh wait, that's not what you meant. I really don't know, looks like ordinary desert sand/storm etc. damage.

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This is gone now :'(

>>3373094
did it get TALIBAN'D?

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>>3373094
Or not really gone, but it's been replaced totally after the earthquake destroyed everything. (Argh-é-Bam)

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>>3373096
Surprisingly, no.

Can anyone recommend some good books about this area of history? Fiction would be cool too

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>>3373101
Is Central Asia a desert or the steppe or what? I can't figure out what to picture in my head

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>>3373106
Shahnameh - book of kings

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>>3373110
Well Central Asia is Afghanistan, Sometimes Iran, Iraq, Kirgistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, so it's really a huuuuge area. It's where the old Silk Road was busiest. You have deserts, mountains, steppe, but also forests (pic related)

>>3373117
I forgot to mention Azerbeidzjan, Turkey is counted sometimes, just like parts of Russia and China (Uyghur)

>>3373106
Otoyomegatari, it's a manga that takes place in Central Asia. The story is utter shit though, but the drawings are beautiful.

And any book on the Silk Road. The one by Frankopan is great.

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Oldest still intact bridge in Dezful, Iran

>>3370465
Operation Parchment Clip

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>>3373106

I almost forgot this book, it got me into central asian architecture in the first place. Too bad I can't find an edition with pictures:

The Road To Oxiana - Robert Byron

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>>3373094
Just an earthquake dude, and iran is reconstructing it now.

>>3373117
Most of what that anon is posting is in iran, including the two pictures you quote. Most of the time Iran (or at least most of it) is not considered central asia, although it does have a heavy cultural influence in the region. I don't think it makes any sense to consider turkey and azerbaijan to be part of central asia. The artstyle is similar and has the same roots though.

>>3373179
I said it was an earthquake, it's not really reconstructing imho because everything was destroyed.

And Central Asia is a broad idea. Your Unesco map is not universally true. Especially in this topic about architecture it's definitely okay to post architecture from Turkey and Iran as well since as you mentioned they share the same roots and styles.

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>>3373179
Also, I am that Anon. I've been dumping my whole folder here.

>>3373215
>>3373212
Did the Russians have an artistic fascination with Turkestan as they conquered it?

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And the last one.

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This thread is saddening desu

>>3368290
What are some neato wiki articles to read about Central Asian history? I ask for wiki because it's free and instant.

I remember reading about the Ferghana valley and the Indo-Greek + Greco-Bactrian kingdoms, the articles on wiki were pretty good.

>>3373219

Thanks for posting all those, friend. Good stuff.

>>3370569
RIP Bactria Margiana Archaeological Complex

>>3373218
It was their wild west and their India at the same time.

>>3373191
My post wasn't a disagreement as much as it was adding info for an anon that clearly knew nothing or little about the place in general. Thanks for the beautiful image dump, by the way.

>>3373148
Was that the one built by Roman POWs?

>>3368399
>It's very inviting. Vaginal.
I want all of you faggot western academia Marxists to fuck off. What the hell can be "vaginal" about a building unless it's actually shaped like a cunt, which this building isn't?

>>3374358
Yes.

>>3368399
Fuck off Freud

>>3374374
Based Shapur. Any more architecture of his still laying around?

>>3374363
>>3374387
I said that I don't know whatever academic terms there may be for the phenomenon. Yet you called me an "academia Marxist." You fucking retard. You have even less of a vocabulary with which to participate in this discussion than I do. Or maybe you really do play into Freudian categories, and you're so afraid that you might want to fuck your mother that you're virulently opposed to my description? Either way, you have contributed nothing here.

Fuck off cucks.

>>3374420
I really don't know, but the famous Naqsh-e Rostam carvings also had roman workers involved.

>>3372987
I think Egypt and the Mediterranean countries imported their Lapiz Lazuli from Afghanistan during Antiquity.

>>3374440
Really? TIL

>>3374461
And up until the renaissance. It's still a major source, and the lazuli part of the name comes from the persian word for the rock.

>>3374430
Kill yourself. I don't mean that as an idiom.

>>3374474
Roman skilled labour was very valued. Also I've read somewhere that Sassanians were really in need of manwork when compared to the romans and that was one of the cause of their incursions (others being the usual ones of prestige and loot). This is why the monarchs moved whole populations from Syria to Mesopotamia and beyond.

>>3374485
But it's so much fun watching you commit cultural suicide. Why would I miss the show?

>>3368399
i kinda see what you mean if your referring to OP's pic, you could use each pillar as an arm rest while thrusting into the gaping doorway comfortably.

Does anyone have any book recommendations on the russian conquest of central Asia? Thanks.

>>3374492
Anywhere where I can read about this? I was aware of roman skills being valued (Dezful Bridge, Weh Antiok Khusrau, etc.), but I didn't think of it as an important cause of their incursions.

>>3373154
Underrated post

>>3374535
seconding this request

>>3370569
seem like really advanced defenses. Who would even be able to breach those, surely not a pack of Aryan horse-niggers?

Should I learn Uzbek?

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>>3373059
I actually like how it was restored

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>>3368290
I want to stick a cross on top of all of those structures.

>>3375097
Why would you do that? Learn Russian or Farsi instead.

How do I download all the images from a thread again?

>>3375097
Sure why not.

>>3375400
Because Farsi is gay and russian sounds like vodka.

>>3374757
I've been reading quite a lot (for a layman) about Byzantines and Persia this past year and often the books and writers get mixed in my mind, sorry. I should've taken more notes. If I got time this evening I may try to give you some more books. For now have this, I think it's the one:
https://www.crcpress.com/East-Rome-Sasanian-Persia-and-the-End-of-Antiquity-Historiographical-and/Howard-Johnston/p/book/9780860789925

Despite the name, it does put attention on the earlier periods. There was also a very nice book that included, among other things, a chronology with all the known important campaigns by persians and romans against each other.

>>3375419
They're both more relevant for the area and it's history and more useful. Samarkand is basically little Tajikistan inside Uzbekistan even today. Also they're both more cute imho, turkish languages can and often are cool but they're too rough to me.

Central asia is so fucking alien. These structures only very vaguely look human at all, it's like a foreign species saw some mosque with the dome and just magicked it into existence

>>3375474
Islam can get sci-fi as fuck

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>>3375474
All of these are Persian architecture, not only in central Asia, even dome of the rock in Jerusalem is reconstructed in the same style

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>>3375507
Any documents on how they made the arch like that, I'm genuinely curious.

>>3375507
>even dome of the rock in Jerusalem is reconstructed in the same style
Pic not related right?

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Nope
Interestingly the lower half is Arab-Byzantine while the upper half Is Perso-Ottoman

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>>3375546

>>3375539
Get block of stone, shape block in the shape you see, put the blue tiles on block, put block on other block.

>>3375569
Noice

>>3374535
The Great Game by Hopkirk is pretty good. Not so much focused on just Russian expansion as it talks more broadly of the rivalry between Britain and Russia in Central Asia though.

>>3373031
wrong

this style predates islam and china and goes back to the days of cyrus/darius/babylonia

>>3375430
Awesome, thanks!

>>3374363
tosser

>>3374535
Tournament of Shadows

>>3373106
There's a pretty good history of Central Asia by UNESCO in 4 tomes available for free here. http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-and-human-sciences/themes/general-and-regional-histories/history-of-civilizations-of-central-asia/

Of course it suffers a bit from every chapter being written by a different person, but it's like 4000+ pages of history, so it'd be hard to preserve a single tone and style.

>>3370465
>Timur
Why doesn't he get as much mention as Genghis Khan? I know Timur was retarded to not establish proper garrisons and governments in the places he conquered, but he was a really good military commander and had an eye for artwork.

It makes me wonder what would've happened if he hadn't died en route to China? The Ming Dynasty was no pushover and was familiar with steppe tactics since they ousted the Mongols. Not to mention having gunpowder weapons at their disposal.

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>>3372880
thank you

>>3377426
>Why doesn't he get as much mention as Genghis Khan?
Well, Genghis Khan's sons continued his work and expanded his empire to reach Europe. Timur only managed to conquer lands that Europeans don't care about in modern times, and his sons kinda sat around, inventing astrolabes, new styles of caligraphy, building tiled mosques and buggering little boys.

Still, Timur was pretty famous at one time, there were poems written about him, and Marlowe wrote a play about him iirc? Then of course the Uzbeks fap to him endlessly, even though the actual Uzbeks who came there 100 years later pretty much murdered all remaining Timurids.

>>3377402
>>3374430
>a slim, tall building
>SO PHALLIC! IT SYMBOLIZES A COCK!
>a Persianate mosque
>HOLLOWED IN! IT'S VAGINAL!
You're a bunch of mentally ill faggots seeing genitals everywhere.

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>the silk road no longer matters
>central Asian countries will never recover from Soviet/post-Soviet affairs and have immediately fallen into irrelevancy
>you will never own a comfy caravanserai and trade gossip with the merchants who have tales from all over the world

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AYO
ARE
YOU
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ROMAN
ARCHITECTURE
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SHIET

Maybe because I grew up next to one of the biggest European medieval castles but that architecture looks horribly wonky and unsafe to me. I do appreciate it aesthetically but I dunno I feel unsafe looking at it.

>>3377491
It's also thanks to the local dictators.

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>>3377454
No problem, thanks for the reply!

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>>3374305
Thanks!

>>3374344
Sorry I got kinda defensive, posting these pics and having to yell at captcha every time and then it's like the only thing people can say is 'yeah well most of your pics are wrong lol'. I know you didn't meant it that way but I was kinda irritated.

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>>3377468

Explain this then.

>>3377491
There are plans to reopen the silk road again although obviously to be used by trucks and cars

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>>3377906
Let me rephrase that. The second most important religious object after the Qur'an is some black stone in the center of a silver yoni shaped opening on one corner of the Ka'aba.

Part of the Haj ritual is touching or kissing this stone. The Ur-Vagina is literally in the center of Islam.

>>3377906
>>3377933
I literally never associated that thing with a vagina until you mentioned it now. Seek help.

>>3368290
they inhabited a vast expanse and needed to create a comfy space in and amongst it

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>>3377941
It's not my idea though. Sorry if I crushed your Muslim heart.

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>>3375360
In your dreams Christcuck. Islam will conqueror the West.

>>3377964
I'm not muslim.

>>3377979
Pfft I won't fall for your Taqiyah you pig

>>3376399
But Cyrus doesn't predate China.

>>3377999
Nice trips.

It does predate the Silk Road though. So no contact with China.

>>3377454
are those beans cooked inside orange peel

>>3373218
yes, don't forget they were once subject to the khans, it was a reflection on their own empire and the ebb and flow of history

>>3378032
They were fascinated by it but
>they were once subject to the khans
had nothing to do with it. It was just yet another case of orientalism. Mongols were (and still are) viewed as evil oppressors and subhuman heathens, while central Asians were admired in 19th century.

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A question to no one in particular. Were there any greater ethnicities/nations in the area or did this all end up being primarily Persian with some minor Arabic/Turkish/Chinese influence?

>>3377491
China is making it happen but a modern one wouldn't be nearly as interesting or magical.
Still, it could be pretty nice for the people there and I'm sure you could sell a ton of tourists on an authentic trip of the Silk Road by train (something like those fancy old rides 'ala Poirot that still exist over here) as long as the region stabilised at least a tiny bit.

>>3378143
More like it's almost all turkic but turks have no culture beyond steppeniggering so there's major persian and chinese influences.

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>>3378143
It was primarily Iranic and latter on Persianised Turkics

>>3377415
Imho it's way better when every chapter is written by a different person. It makes each chapter more fresh and the book easier to read, not to mention that it's often a guarantee that you can read them in the order you want. All this taking for granted that each writer knows what he's talking about.

>>3377933
Are you capable to looking at a hole without seeing a cunt?

>>3378191
Are those freckles?

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>>3379950
They're Eurasian. They have features of Caucasians and Asians.

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>>3375360
>Franky "pray the Koran in the Vatican" The First
>Conquering anyone
Honestly, the Young Pope does more for me than the real pope
>>3380182
An entire race of Hapas? Is that why Turks and Mongols were so angry?

>>3368290
You should watch Bab'Aziz if you haven't. It's kind of in the same setting.
https://youtu.be/I1w2zQrxfA0

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posting superior south east asian architecture

>>3380246
You're not welcome
>>>/ricefields/

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>>3380252
>mfw you're just gelatinous of my superior aesthetics

>>3380246
>>3380260
Make your own thread. SEA is cool and kinda liked on /his/, you're above stealin threads.

>>3378191
>>3380182
SAMARKAND
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>>3378191
I-Is that a bowl of grass?

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>>3380831
No, those are early sprouts of vegetables like the stuff you did in kindergarten.

>>3380925
No, it is grass. Wheat grass (Sabzeh) to be exact. It's a Nowruz thing.

>>3368290
It is Persian architecture*

>>3378143
Yes the Silk Road sounds magical but my idea of a magical experience (today) is a road trip through the Northwest and up and down the north Pacific coast.

>>3380991
Well fuck off to /out/ or /trv/ then jeez

>>3380973
>No, it is grass.

It's called wheat grass because it looks like grass, but it's just an early phase of wheat cultivation, hence my comment about it not being a random patch of grass (the green weed) grown for some random reason, but a cultivated plant.

>>3381062

Jesus Christ dipshit, how much of a fedora tipping nerd are you? We're not discussing biology here, the guy asks if it's grass, it's called wheat GRASS and it looks like grass. You said it was a vegetable dumbass.

>>3381062
"Wheat - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat
Wheat is a grass widely cultivated for its seed, a cereal grain which is a worldwide staple food. There are many species of wheat which together make up the..."

>tfw no central asian gf who knows her traditions well

>>3380831
Nowruz is full of fertility and prosperity related symbology since the iranic new year starts with the spring. The growing green grass is just one.

>>3368290
What are the coolest Central Asian cultures/civilizations? I've read about the Sogdians and Bactrians but not sure what medieval-later ones are as cool.

>>3383258
>but not sure what medieval-later ones are as cool.
turkics

>>3383284
The persianised ones are, the tribal nomads, not so much