Why did Europeans never independently develop a written language?

>>3362747
Why to subsaharan negroids have to borrow European clothing and spoken languages, and be told not to practice cannibalism. Normal humans would already know that it's wrong to eat other humans.

>>3362790
Or invent the wheel. It's almost like they had to be civilized by the ancient mesopotamians

>>3362790
>being this triggered over his obvious inferiority

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>>3362800
I don't give a shit about Europeans, it's the negroid inferiority complex and stealing from the accomplishments of more developed peoples that I sick of. Subsaharan negroids are homonid, but not "human" in a biological sense, they cannot hope to compare themselves to human civilization types and for that reason they fabricate history.

>>3362831
This retard can't even spell hominid and he's over here thinking that he's somehow superior to all black people.

>>3362747
They did, but it was replaced by the modern alphabet because it was more efficient

>>3362831
>not posting a timestamp
>trying to LARP as an Asian
shamefurr/10

>I don't give a shit about Europeans, it's the negroid inferiority complex and stealing from the accomplishments of more developed peoples that I sick of
You do realize that that's exactly how most human "progress" is made right? Stealing someone elses ideas and incorporating it as your own. Like writing, farming, the scientific method, industrialization, etc. etc.

>>3362839
>people

Very lose definition of humanity there. Koko the gorilla has a higher IQ than the average negroid, so by all fairness if subsaharans are considered human so are great apes.

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Because Europeans excel in making things other people created better.
>Near East develops the abjad
>Europe develops the Alphabet out of it, the most efficient writing system
>China invents gunpowder
>Europe makes it a necessity
>Babylonians invent Astrology
>Europeans travel into space

>>3362843
Europeans invented the Alphabet

>>3362867
Caucasians invented it, but no the Phoenician Alphabet did not come from Europe

>>3362943
There is no Phoenician Alphabet, only an Abjad. The Greeks made it an alphabet

Probably for the same reason Japan, which is undoubtedly superior to whatever shithole youa re trying to defend, never invented the car. Someone else got there first.

>>3362867
>Because Europeans excel in making things other people created better.
Nah, the west has easily the most creativity the world has seen

>>3362945
The Greeks weren't european

>>3362963
Creativity doesn't imply innovation. They were creative and utilized preexisting tools in ways their inventors failed to.
>>3362986
Now you're just meming

>>3362945
The Abjad is Arabic wewuzism.
Greek and Latin (and therefore all European alphabets) are based off the Phoenecian alphabet.

>>3362997
>Creativity doesn't imply innovation. They were creative and utilized preexisting tools in ways their inventors failed to.
and invented a plethora of new tools

>>3362747
Fun fact.
A true writing system was only invented independently four times: in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Indus Valley and China. Every alphabet that currently exists is based off of these original four alphabets.
Also
>larping as a nigger on the internet
Why?

>>3363017
Wrong. You're forgetting MesoAmerica

>>3363008
No, an alphabet has vowels. The Greeks invented vowels, creating an alphabet from a abjad, a system composed solely of consonants.

>>3362800
Proto-Indo-Europeans invented the wheel

>>3363028
Abjads can have vowels too, actually.

>>3362963
All the creativity and autism in the world can't stop them from having sub replacement birth rates. Therefore they are evolutionary unfit and inferior

>>3363023
They're glyphs.
Every bumfuck tribe and their dog and glyphs.
Really, Egypt didn't even invent a true alphabet.

>>3363045
I guess Asians have got to go too, then.

>>3363042
Not strictly, only impure ones. The only "vowel" common to abjads is the aleph, which is mainly a Glottal stop.
Any impure abjads with proper vowels are the result of backborrowing

>>3362861
>Very lose definition of humanity there.
Not really. Most people don't consider IQ to be what makes you human, that's why Children, Elderly, and the mentally disabled are still considered human by most people.

>>3362747
Because they are inferior. Their own genes are literally trying to kill them all. Nature knows who are inferior and who aren't.

>>3363058
Which was writing.

>>3363058
Glyphys literally became chinese writing.
Also egypt used glyphs too

>>3363061
Yep, unless they can raise birthrates they're also unfit

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>>3363058
The most interesting was the Incan quipu system.
Their "writing system" was a system of knots and strings that was used to record census data.

It's truly an "alien" analogue for writing, from an Old World perspective.

As far as I know they are the only civilization that could record so much data for posterity without having a written system.

>>3363058

mesoamerican glyphs are as valid as chinese ideograms.

>>3363045
>All the creativity and autism in the world can't stop them from having sub replacement birth rates. Therefore they are evolutionary unfit and inferior
This Cockroaches are master race.

>>3363065
Pure writing systems don't really exist.

>>3363078
It wasn't a writing system. It was a precursor of the writing system, like cuneiform script. You have to check Inca tocapus. Some academics have claimed that there's a similarity between their tocapu glyphs and ancient chinese glyphs.

>>3363058
>They're glyphs
They're glyphs that systematically encode a language, which is what writing is
>>3363076
Africans aren't fit, they're being supplied food by outside countries out of western pity.

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>>3363074
>>3363082
If we're counting glyphs as an alphabet, then Europeans invented literally dozens of written languages, meaning OP is complete a retard.

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>>3363099

>>3363058
Mayan script was more complete than the Egyptian hieroglyphs, it was a full writing system analogous to Japanese.

We have entire books and codices written by them, though the Spanish destroyed most of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_script
>Maya writing used logograms complemented with a set of syllabic glyphs, somewhat similar in function to modern Japanese writing. Mayan writing was called "hieroglyphics" or hieroglyphs by early European explorers of the 18th and 19th centuries who did not understand it but found its general appearance reminiscent of Egyptian hieroglyphs, to which the Mayan writing system is not at all related.

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>>3363105
Ogham is comfy.

>>3363088
Yes, but we're going by order of invention. The Phoenicians derived an Abjad from the Egyptian writing system, which the Greeks derived their alphabet. Later abjad users then borrowed back the concept later. Abjads could incorporate vowels, but only after vowels were invented.
Thus, the Greeks invented the Alphabet.
>>3363092
MesoAmericans had writing systems. The Olmec and the Maya had them.
Cuneiform is not a precursor to writing, it is writing.

>>3363110
i plan to make an Ogham-based cursive.

>>3363122
Not really, abjads used some consonants as vowels before the Greeks.

It makes sense, especially when it's an approximant, because the reverse happens in alphabets all the time.

Because eurangatuan are objectively inferior. Inca are objectively superior.

Deal with it subhumans

>>3363105
Germanic countries should adopt runic. It would please my autism.

>>3363099
Then you agree that ancient chinese script wasn't actually a writing system?

>>3363169
United statian detected.

>>3363169
>superior race is conquered by an inferior race
Odd. How did that happen?

>>3363213
Ask muslims, they are doing it again with eurangutans.

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>>3363045
>tfw the distant future will be the ~10% of niggers who aren't retarded trying to desperately keep it all together

>>3363213

ask romans/goths, greeks/turks, chinese/mongols, hindus/mongols, persians/mongols, etc.

They didn't

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>>3363172
Turks should have

>>3362867
Why do people think alphabets are inherently better than abjads? Semitic languages are easier to write in abjads than alphabets

>>3362747
Nordics runes is written language retard.

>>3363065
By that logic Arabic is a pure abjad because the maters lectiones all can function as consonants

>>3363695
Based off of italic scripts, retard

>>3363045
White birth rates before feminism were fine its fucking retarded to overpopulate your country. No wonder blacks starve to death in Africa there are too many of them for their incompetent governments to feed.

Wasn't there some Dacian like tribe with a written system around the early Bronze Age? I remember reading something about it a couple of years ago.

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>>3363772

The Vinca Script, yes. Untranslated but almost certainly a syllabry. There's also Minoan Linear A, but this was inspired by (not based on) Egyptian writing and Minoan isn't even an Indo-European language (but then neither is the Vinca script).

>>3362867
>>Europeans travel into space
wew

>>3363690
why do people think phonetic language is better than logographic language? If everyone uses the same logographic language you can read what they write even if you speak a different spoken language.

>>3362747
>Europeans
who are europeans?

germanics, latins, greeks, other tribes roaming around?

you have to be especific becasuse latins arent related to germanics, greeks arent related to germanics

why germanics call themselves european?

why are they so WEWUZZERS SO MUCH?

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>>3363915
>why germanics call themselves european?

>why are they so WEWUZZERS SO MUCH?
Because they're literally civilization destroying niggers that don't want to own up to the fact that they destroy so much shit for so fucking little.

>>3363909
Logographic scripts fit analytic languages best, most indo-European languages wouldn't be able to communicate effectively

>>3363085
>>3363705
>evolutionary dead ends grasping at justifications for their lack of baby making
Good thing natural selection doesn't care about your excuses

>>3363909
logographic languages are worse because it forces the writing system to take precedent over spoken. spoken language and written language are not the same thing. chinese in particular was a way to basically make the uneducated totally unable to read and so keep the power in the hands of the upper class

>>3363231
Not without a fight.
Meanwhile, 500 conquistadors destroyed the Aztec civilisation, even less destroyed the Incas. Their 'armies' were routed in every single battle (when they weren't busy dying of a cough lmao).

>>3364421
But why is it bad for written languages to take precedent over spoken languages. Yes writing "Chinese" kept more power in the hand of the elites compared to alphabetic languages, but this lead to a more unified state, with a diversity of mutually unintelligible spoken languages unified under one polity due to facilitation of written communication.

>>3364429
This was actually a meme. Conquistador and spanish sources like to conveniently leave out the literally tens of thousand of Native allies Cortes had in overthrowin the Aztecs. Not as sure about pizarro and the Incas though

>>3362839
>type
>hahaha your entire argument is invalidated by this small detail

He could at least use pictures not from instagram. It's fucking pathetic, really.

https://www.instagram.com/nicoalcedera

>>3362861
but the overlap in iq is much greater between human groups than other apes especially considering it's just one. Koko will always be a shitty example. Don't forget there are other groups who have ~80iqs that aren't black depending on which stat you look at.

>>3364429
Sure thing bro and 300 spartans alone defended Thermopylae against 5 million Persian right?

>>3362790
B-B-BUT WE WUZ KANGS N'SHIET

>>3364443
It would just be difficult to actually read English if it were purely logographic.

>>3362790
>Normal humans would already know that it's wrong to eat other humans.
When was cannibalism ever central to West african culture and how many west africans believe they're actually egyptians?

>>3364644
>seething
Tell me, why do the former Incan and Aztec empires speak Spanish? Why do they worship Jesus, and not some bullshit sun god? Why are their populations largely Mestizo or white?
I'll tell you: a few hundred people from a poor shithole in Europe sailed for months across the sea and kicked their asses despite being at 1 to 10,000 odds.
Now you tell me, how do you even begin to pretend those few hundred were in any sense of the word inferior to the 'people' they cut down like cattle in the hundreds of thousands?

>>3362747
Because there wasn't any need to. The fact that a languages roots can be traced to somewhere else does not make that language useless.

>>3364994
>literally ignoring historical fact about the presence of native allies
>on /his/ of all boards
Fuck off to /pol/ you nigger. By your logic Europeans are inferior to Latin Americans because Europeans are dying out as a people even without a foreign invasion

>>3363702
What? Source?

>>3362800
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ljubljana_Marshes_Wheel

>>3365001
They're not.
European population is still growing fairly well, recovering dramatically in East Europe since the 90s and well on its way to reaching beyond replacement rate (impressive since most of the young people headed West). It's nowhere near as dire as the prosperous regions in Asia, especially considering the economic devestation in parts of Europe.
Injins meanwhile couldn't even resist the flu and basically don't exist anymore.

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>>3363695
The runes are based off northern italic alphabets which are in turn based in the greek and etruscan ones which ultimately are based in the phoenician alphabet. And this one from the sinaitic script which probably has roots in egyptian hyeroglyphs and ugaritic cuneiform

Sorry Jimbo, the runes do not come from Hyperborea. But hey, as Varg says writing is for the untermensch.

>>3362997
Greeks were culturally closer to the near east than the rest of europe.

>>3365126

By this reasoning nobody except the Ugaritans and the Egyptians independently developed a written language.

>everyone I don't like is Varg

You seemed like a regular smug faggot before you slapped this bitchy little skin tag on there, now you seem like a perfumed court eunuch.

>>3365230

>Greeks were culturally closer to the near east than the Italians
>Greeks were culturally closer to the near east than the Thracians
>'the near east'

Reely maks u fink.

>>3364994
They had guns, lad

Im pretty sure 1000 AD spanish wouldnt win against inca or aztec

>>3365250
Well greeks didnt only took the alphabet from phoenicians

They took more from them like architecture, art, philosophy, etc, its obvious, classical greek after trade with phoenicians

>>3362790
>Implying cannibalism is wrong.

>>3365868

Proofs?

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No one gives a fuck about copyright, everyone is stealing from everyone, including radiohead.

>>3363893
Dacians confirmed for inventing emojis

>>3362747
Google Vinca Script.

Older than any written writing system.

>>3365049
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes

>>3364452

actually the spanish sources dont leave that out, only modern poltards.

>>3365250
>By this reasoning nobody except the Ugaritans and the Egyptians independently developed a written language.
Indeed, it is. We are talking about "independently", not "based on".

Add mesoamericans, pre aryan India and chinese in the list as well.

>>3363017
What about Turkic runes?

>>3366762
>implying IVC seals are a script
Pajeet detected

We did have one.