>Women also submitted to Beria's sexual advances in exchange

>that one MILF he seduced, and then went on to fuck her thirteen year old daughter
/ourguy/?

>>3355700
So basically he was a soviet Gandhi?

>>3355700
>Beria raped Tatiana Okunevskaya.
There is not any Russian source on that. It's a fake.

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>>3355700
>Beria and all the other defendants were sentenced to death on 23 December 1953. When the death sentence was passed, Beria pleaded on his knees for mercy before collapsing to the floor and wailing and crying energetically, but to no avail. The other six defendants were executed by firing squad on the same day the trial ended. Beria was executed separately. He was shot through the forehead by General Pavel Batitsky who had to stuff a rag into Beria's mouth to silence his bawling (his final moments bore great similarity to those of his own predecessor, NKVD Chief Nikolai Yezhov, who begged for his life before his execution in 1940). His body was subsequently cremated and the remains buried in a forest near Moscow.

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>>3355789
And people say karma isn't real

>>3355714
what

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>>3356073
14* apparently

Hope you can read French. I'll translate anyways in the follow-up post.

>>3356093
Beria had another reason to be happy: he had met a beautiful woman named Drojdova, whose husband had worked at the Kremlin. He maybe had an affair with her, before she introduced him to her daughter, Lilla, aged only 14, but already "an ideal model of Russian beauty with blue eyes, slender legs, and blond (tresses?)", writes Martha Pechkova. Beria was in extasy with this last great love, and wanted to take advantage of her as best he could [...]

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>>3355749
pic related is of Tatiana Okunevskaya in her 80s
> T H I C C
> /ourguy/ confirmed

>Communism is supposed to free nirmal citizens from capitalists' chains
>Ends up chaining, raping and purging normal citizens
Very good ideology, not hypocritical at all :D

>>3356144
That's because no ideology on Earth can chain down alpha males like Beria.

>>3356149
Beria was an opportunistic psychopath serial killer and sexual deviant. His last attempt at manipulation was crying like a bitch during his trial. You'll find that these predatory faggots who often occupy these regimes' top places are far from alpha males.

>>3356169
but Stalin was a true alpha, no doubt about that

>>3356169
Yikes, thought it was obvious I was kidding. Anyways, say what you will about the bastard, but he was efficient. I doubt anyone would've stomached him otherwise.

>>3356175
>obessive and constantly scared for his life manlet
>alpha

>>3356189
>obessive and constantly scared for his life manlet
proof?

>>3356196
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_repression_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky#Assassination

really tankie?

>>3356207
that makes him an alpha you faggot

>>3356230
>being a paranoid, neurotic manlet
>alpha
top tankek

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>>3355700
Beria is just a little kitty-cat. He did nothing wrong

>>3355789
Beria was also the leader of the Kremlin faction which favored withdrawing from Eastern Europe in exchange for US economic assistance to rebuild the USSR. If he had won the leadership struggle, the Cold War might have been averted and Eastern Europe could have been free.

A sociopathic rapist may have been the best choice from a utilitarian standpoint.

>>3355700
Based Beria

>>3356169
and was a jews for good measure !

>>3356929
This. You have to separate the mans personal problems from his political stances. He might well habe been a deng xiaping abd was more moderste and realist than kruschchev

>>3356929
Lenin did the same thing with the NEP, the West was duped into pouring millions in foreign aid and investment into the Soviet Union only to see it wiped out when Stalin rose to power.

Arguably, the same can be said of Clinton's foreign aid to 1990s Russia.

Never make deal with tyrants and corrupt autocrats. They are all psychopaths waiting to stab you in the back when the wind changes. Tyranny and democracy, in the long run, cannot coexist.

China will assfuck the West at some point too.

>>3356956
worse, a Georgian

>On August 22, 1938, Georgian NKVD leader Lavrenty Beria was named as Yezhov's deputy. Beria had managed to survive the Great Purge and the "Yezhovshchina" during the years 1936–1938, even though he had almost become one of its victims. Earlier in 1938, Yezhov had even ordered the arrest of Beria, who was party chief in Georgia. However, Georgian NKVD chief Sergei Goglidze warned Beria, who immediately flew to Moscow to see Stalin personally. Beria convinced Stalin to spare his life and reminded Stalin how efficiently he had carried out party orders in Georgia and Transcaucasia. In a twist of fate, it was Yezhov who eventually fell in the struggle for power, and Beria who became the new NKVD chief.[21]
>Well acquainted with the typical Stalinist bureaucratic precursors to eventual dismissal and arrest, Yezhov recognized Beria's increasing influence with Stalin as a sign that his downfall was imminent; and he plunged headlong into alcoholism and despair. Already a heavy drinker, in the last weeks of his service, he reportedly was disconsolate, slovenly, and drunk nearly all of his waking hours, rarely bothering to show up to work. As anticipated, Stalin and Vyacheslav Molotov, in a report dated November 11, sharply criticised the work and methods of the NKVD during Yezhov's tenure as chief, thus creating the bureaucratic pretense necessary to remove him from power.
I TRIED SO HARD, AND GOT SO FAR

>On November 14, another of Yezhov’s protégés, the Ukrainian NKVD chief Alexander Ivanovich Uspensky, disappeared after being warned by Yezhov that he was in trouble. Stalin suspected that Yezhov was involved in the disappearance, and told Beria, not Yezhov, that Uspensky must be caught (he was arrested on April 14, 1939).[22] Yezhov had told his wife Yevgenia on September 18 that he wanted a divorce, and she had begun writing increasingly despairing letters to Stalin, none of which were answered.[23] She was particularly vulnerable because of her many lovers, and people close to her were being arrested for months. On November 19, 1938, Yevgenia committed suicide by taking an overdose of sleeping pills.
>At his own request, Yezhov was officially relieved of his post as the People's Commissar for Internal Affairs on November 25, succeeded by Beria, who had been in complete control of the NKVD since the departure of Frinovsky on 8 September.[24] He attended his last Politburo meeting on January 29, 1939.
>Stalin was evidently content to ignore Yezhov for several months, finally ordering Beria to denounce him at the annual Presidium of the Supreme Soviet. On March 3, 1939, Yezhov was relieved of all his posts in the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, but retained his post as People's Commissar of Water Transportation. His last working day was April 9, at which time the "People’s Commissariat was simply abolished by splitting it into two, the People’s Commissariats of the River Fleet and the Sea Fleet, with two new People’s Commissars, Z. A. Shashkov and S. S. Dukel’skii."[25]

>>3356956
Beria wasn't Jewish

>>3358654
>thus creating the bureaucratic pretense necessary to remove him from power
Ah yes, one little insult of many totalitarian systems, added to all the major insults... a person can't just openly be pronounced a threat or inconvenience to those in power and executed, there must be a whole elaborate pretense first.

>>3356144
Every ideology, no matter how good it claims to be, will eventually become perverted by bad people.

>>3358694
it's funny as hell desu
> By the most likely account, Khrushchev prepared an elaborate ambush, convening a meeting of the Presidium on 26 June, where he suddenly launched a scathing attack on Beria, accusing him of being a traitor and spy in the pay of British intelligence. Beria was taken completely by surprise. He asked, "What's going on, Nikita Sergeyevich? Why are you picking fleas in my trousers?" Molotov and others quickly spoke against Beria one after the other, followed by a motion by Khrushchev for his instant dismissal. When Beria finally realized what was happening and plaintively appealed to Malenkov to speak for him, his old friend and crony silently hung his head and refused to meet his gaze. Malenkov pressed a button on his desk as the pre-arranged signal to Marshal Georgy Zhukov and a group of armed officers in a nearby room who burst in and arrested Beria.[39]

>>3358721
>Beria was found guilty of:
>Treason. It was alleged, without any proof, that "up to the moment of his arrest Beria maintained and developed his secret connections with foreign intelligence services". In particular, attempts to initiate peace talks with Hitler in 1941 through the ambassador of Bulgaria were classified as treason; no one mentioned that Beria was acting on the orders of Stalin and Molotov. It was also alleged that Beria, who in 1942 helped organize the defense of the North Caucasus, tried to let the Germans occupy the Caucasus. There were allegations that "planning to seize power, Beria tried to obtain the support of imperialist states at the price of violation of territorial integrity of the Soviet Union and transfer of parts of USSR's territory to capitalist states." These allegations were due to Beria's suggestion to his assistants that to improve foreign relations it was reasonable to transfer the Kaliningrad Oblast to Germany, part of Karelia to Finland, the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic to Romania and the Kuril Islands to Japan.
>Terrorism. Beria's participation in the Purge of the Red Army in 1941 was classified as an act of terrorism.
>Counter-revolutionary activity during the Russian Civil War. In 1919 Beria worked in the security service of the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic. Beria maintained that he was assigned to that work by the Hummet party, which subsequently merged with the Adalat Party, the Ahrar Party, and the Baku Bolsheviks to establish the Azerbaijan Communist Party.

at least the communist total perversion of justice runs both ways?

>>3358694
because according to the structure of the party at the time he had more power than khrushchev and Zhukov

a senator couldn't just overthrow the president or a member of parliament the pm

>>3355700
Is there any proof for these claims? It sounds like bullshit made up during de-Stalinization t b h

>>3358721
>>3358747
>All this and they didn't just call him out on the rape
It's never going to go away. Rapists are going to be embedded in every power structure on the planet, forever.

I just got done reading about the Pictairn Islands, which was discovered in 2004 to have been an Overseas British Territory that revolved around rape for like 200 years.

>>3356144
I think the seductive quality of Communism is that you are punishing people for something they have done in their lifetime. E.g. Hoarding wealth and exploiting their workers. Everyone is one bad boss and firing away from having some sympathy for the cause. That's why it will always be more politically correct than movements that attack people for things they couldn't control at birth. e.g. race, mental health issues etc.

However, communists having no uniting ethos besides punishing those with wealth and prestige will never achieve what it supposedly sets out to. And in terms of gaining power in the West, they generally abhor guns and would need a miracle to stop from splintering apart on ethnic and cultural lines.

>>3358618
>hurr durr everyone who doesn't have my political system has severe mental issues!
this is the reasoning of somebody with a childish view of the world desu

>>3356189
True
but Tito and Castro were undeniably alpha tho

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>>3358846
>After Stalin's death from pulmonary edema brought on by the stroke, Beria's ambitions sprang into full force. In the uneasy silence following the cessation of Stalin's last agonies, Beria was the first to dart forward to kiss his lifeless form (a move likened by Sebag-Montefiore to "wrenching a dead King's ring off his finger"[35]). While the rest of Stalin's inner circle (even Molotov, saved from certain liquidation) stood sobbing unashamedly over the body, Beria reportedly appeared "radiant", "regenerated", and "glistening with ill-concealed relish."[35] When Beria left the room, he broke the somber atmosphere by shouting loudly for his driver, his voice echoing with what Stalin's daughter Svetlana Alliluyeva called "the ring of triumph unconcealed."[26] Alliluyeva noticed how the Politburo seemed openly frightened of Beria and unnerved by his bold display of ambition. "He's off to take power," Mikoyan recalled muttering to Khrushchev. That prompted a "frantic" dash for their own limousines to intercept him at the Kremlin.[26]

>>3356128
Those are some amazing legs for her age.

>>3356929
Wrong.

He was of the same petty NKVD breed that had enacted mass murder over past slights and imagined threats. He was effective with spies, and that's the only reason he survived Stalin. His character shows through and through as a coward and snake, incapable of the burden of leadership.

Khrushchev turned the Soviet Union from a macabre parody of chaotic evil, into a powerful and respected run-of-the-mill authoritarian regime, no longer wiping out whole sections of society over hypothetical disagreements. He was the only good leader to emerge from the pit of Stalinism.

>>3359570
>Falling for the stocking jew

>>3358618
Like when Iraq armed all of those Mexican Aztlan terrorists and then bombed us when we tried to defend ourselves, taking all of our oil and gold, then installing an Iraqi puppet government and rewriting our laws to serve their corporations. I can't believe those commie tyrants still have bases in our country.

>>3359677
Nice meme. Kruschev still continued the gulag system and used it to persecute religious minorities. He also started thr practices of labeling dissidents as mentally ill and locking them in mental hospitals and of nailing dissidents with unrelated made up criminal charges. Convinient way to stop having political prisoners; just label them rapists or embezzlers instead. Also the siberian exile of certain ethnic groups such as crimean tatars also continued thru out kruschevs time.

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>>3359718
>t. read Solzhenitsyn once

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>>3355700
Beria rape meme needs to die

>>3359950
Montefiore's own works are all founded on what he got out of reading the memoirs of the children of the men in Stalin's court, and interviews with them.

I don't know if you can trust the word of children that much, but it isn't all anedoctal evidence.

>>3359964
it literally is

>>3356149
>>3358696
>democratic capitalist countries
>powerful people have to get consent or do it in secrecy

>communist shit holes
>totally-not-nobles can literally just put a gun to your head and rape you to death

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Sebag_Montefiore

>Simon Montefiore was born in London. His father was Stephen Eric Sebag Montefiore and his brother is Hugh Sebag-Montefiore. They are descended from a line of wealthy Sephardi Jews who were diplomats and bankers all over Europe and who originated from Morocco and Italy. At the start of the 19th century, his great-great-uncle, Sir Moses Montefiore, was an international financier who worked with the Rothschild family and who became a philanthropist.[3] His mother, Phyllis April Jaffé, comes from a Lithuanian Jewish family of scholars.

Hmmmmmmm...

>>3359994
Why is /pol/ always right? it's frankly unnerving

>>3359981
>raping or killing someone is ok as long as people dont know about it

>>3360050
How is it not OK if nobody knows about it forever? Unless you're a conscientious person with proper moral codes, but then you wouldn't do that in the first place if you are.

>>3360009
/pol/ is always claiming that the Jews ruled the USSR. How does claiming that Beria raped people fit into the supposed Jewish agenda?

>>3360091
more than that, by 1923, Lenin already declared Trotsky as his successor but Trotsky refused because he didn't want the world to believe the propaganda that communism was a jewish conspiracy

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>>3356116

>>3360091
Stalin purged the Jews from the Soviet Union though, he was their enemy

>>3355789
He got off easy, honestly

>>3355700
So are mods going to do anything about these shitty leftypol shill threads or what?

>>3359964
>stories told by people
>not anedoctal

>>3360781
>thread exposing the Soviets for the horrible people they are
>/leftypol/ shill thread
You are one of the smart ones right?

>>3360795
every soviet in existence hated beria including his boss

>>3360826
lol /thread

>>3355700
We are not degenerate

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>>3359964
Well in the case of Beria his son, Sergo, wrote a book praising his father to the high heavens, even saying that he actually didn't die executed but straight up killed in his office after Stalin's death.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a-son-emerges-from-the-shadows-sergo-beria-comes-out-of-41-years-of-anonymity-and-tells-andrew-1411967.html
He goes on to say that it was Kruchtchev that built up his image as a monster and rapist, which is entierly possible if we consider that Kruchtchev was making shit up and lying constantly. If we consider that Montefiore probably based his research upon kruchtchev's era documents and entourage, no wonder he always depicts such grotesque scenes and allegations on all the Soviet leaders
So i don't know who is pulling garbage out of their ass the most but at least Sergo was there and witnessed the events
And as far as i know, nothing supports at all the allegations of rape, of Stalin calling him is "himmler" or any witness in how his execution underwent
My guess would be that Montefiore is the biggest meme master of Sovietology

>>3360050
>I have to rape and kill infants in secrecy or else the public will lock me in a cage forever
versus
>I can rape and kill you and there's nothing you can do you about

>>3360826
>have boss that everyone hates who won't stop raping
>can't remove him
Communism

>>3362322
My bad he didn't say he was killed in the office, just captured pretty brutally 6 months before his alleged execution.

>>3358618
>Clinton's foreign aid to 1990s Russia.
>implying it was of any relevance
>implying Chechen radical mudslims didn't receive more to destabilize the situation

>>3362322
you wouldn't want to know your father was such a piece of shit either so you'd try to make yourself believe he wasn't

>>3362410
And because a british Historian during the cold war always speaks the truth and has no agenda or intrest whatsoever right ?
The son lived in annonymity for 40 years, if he was so ashamed he could have stayed that way

>>3362410
this, I wouldn't trust any book written by a notorious leader's son, the daughter of himmler was the same afaik

>>3362322
i love when people posture like they're being skeptical about something in the most naive way imaginable

>>3358857
>Rapists are going to be embedded in every power structure on the planet, forever.
you label a man as a rapists it can destroy his reputation forever.

>>3355986
He got off easily for all that he did

>>3356144
Not real communism

>>3364864
It's easy to be sceptical about some anecdotal stories.
It's like with other war crimes. Sure, the Germans gassed millions of people, there is evidence of this, documents, hundreds of witnesses and so on. But some guys said that German also trained dogs to rape women. There is no evidence of this except like two guys who obviously hated the Germans. It's easy to be sceptical about things like this.

>>3364958
what? he was executed. that's the most severe punishment you can give someone, unless you're suggesting its ever even slightly okay to be sadistic and torture people for literally no other reason than to make you feel better.

>>3364976
>being skeptical about something very natural and commonplace (men abusing their power to exploit women) is exactly the same thing as being skeptical about a completely nonsensical tall tale

>>3358857
A whole rape ecosystem.
Yeah it's pretty vile. The fucking Anglos have been doing it to each other for years (Westminster pedophile dossier, Yewtree etc.).
And in the US Epstein, Podesta, Alefantis.
In Australia (and elsewhere) the Catholic clergy.

>>3365003
>men abusing power to exploit women
I'm not defending him, he was a monster, but I'm sceptical about those stories. They all came from his enemies. And I know how the Soviet system worked.

>>3365010
>Podesta
Isn't this a conspiracy theory?

>>3356144

These kind of psychopaths can be found even in systems outside communism, they are not particular to it. In any kind of system in times of crisis a leader will most likely put in power a an extremely immoral person that is also very effective, in Nazi Germany that guy Richard Heydrich, in SU it was Beria. There are also similar guys like that in that in the CIA that wreck entire nations with the outcome of millions killed and they don't break a sweat.

>>3365046
It's a conspiracy theory with enough circumstantial evidence to probably be true.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611

>>3365638
Maybe, but I don't believe in anything regarding some alleged occult ceremonies and similar crap. Conspiratards went full retard when they started blaming Marina Abramovic for black magic rituals and similar nonsense.

Why were the heads of the Soviet secret police completely irrelevant after Beria despite everyone knowing Yezhov and Yagoda?

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*authorizes your execution*

>>3365638
Daily reminder that Pizzagate was literally created by /pol/ as a joke. I remember being in the fucking thread where the idea was first thought up

>>3365919
Rly? I remember being in 8 chan when they started digging

>>3365769
whose signatures were these beside Stalin?

>>3365974
>TOP SECRET

>From the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to comrade STALIN

>In the NKVD POW camps and in the prisons of the western oblasts of Ukraine and Belorussia there is currently a large number of former officers of the Polish army, former Polish police officers and employees of intelligence agencies, members of Polish nationalist c-r (counterrevolutionary) parties, participants in underground c-r rebel organizations, defectors and so on. All of them are implacable enemies of Soviet power and full of hatred for the Soviet system.

>POW officers and policemen located in the camps are attempting to continue c-r work and are leading anti-Soviet agitation. Each of them is simply waiting to be freed so they can have the opportunity to actively join the fight against Soviet power.

>NKVD agents in the western oblasts of Ukraine and Belorussia have uncovered a number of c-r rebel organizations. In each of these c-r organizations the former officers of the former Polish army and former Polish police officers played an active leadership role.

>Among the detained defectors and violators of the state-

>(Signatures: In favor - Stalin, Voroshilov, Molotov, Mikoyan)
>(In margin: Comrade Kalinin - In favor. Comrade Kaganovich - In favor.)

>>3365919
More to the point, what does that matter if the evidence points there?

>>3365987
thanks but why would Stalin need their approvals anyway?

>>3366043
the soviets were enamoured with pointless bureaucratic formalities

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>>3364864
>every person of power is of course abusing their power and raping everyone
Ok
The sources that Montefiore uses only seems to be the files from his "trial" after Stalin's death under Kruchtchev, and again, he was a master of making shit up about all of his ennemies. Kruchtchev created the myth of Stalin being a dullish brute with no intellect and this has been debunked by Service and many other historians.
And the other convenient thing is that those files are unnavailable for examination up until 2027 or something.
And since he litteraly has NO OTHER SOURCES, as of right now everything he wrote is purely faith based, and most of it is completely annecdotal, like some reported comments or conversations that just seem to come out of nowhere.
So pardon my "naive" Skecpticism for not beliving some fantasy tier historical writings.
What is the obsession with dildos anyway ? if they were alive today would all soviet leaders browse 4chan and collect dragon dildos ?

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>found drawers full of used panties in his room before his execution

Was he /our guy/?

>>3355789
Die like a man

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This guy personally executed tens of thousands of people in the purges and 7,000 at Katyn alone, making him the most prolific mass murderer in history. The Soviets were metal as fuck

>>3360786
What the fuck do you expect from a biography? A statistical double blind study into how many people Beria rapes?

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>>3370062
> Blokhin was forcibly retired in 1953 following Stalin's death that March, although his "irreproachable service" was publicly noted by Beria at the time of his departure.[9] After Beria's fall from power in June of the same year, Blokhin's rank was stripped from him in the de-Stalinization campaigns of Nikita Khrushchev. He reportedly sank into alcoholism, went insane, and died on 3 February 1955, with the official cause of death listed as "suicide".

>>3370094
>official cause of death listed as
heart attack

>>3370238
Karma only exists in Russia

childhood is idolizing Khrushchev
adulthood is realizing Beria makes more sense

>>3370062
>most prolific mass murderer
You are wrong.
Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/murder)
Executions were done officially by decision of tribunal.

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>>3370296
WTF I love communism now

>>3370324
Wait, who's that on the left? I don't recognize him

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>>3370296
wtf i love executions now

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>>3370247
He died at age of 60 and it was actually average life expectancy for man in USSR at that time.

>>3370333
Molotov

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>>3370344
:^)

>>3365080
Psychopaths are subhuman vermin and should be exterminated the second they're first spotted.

>>3370062
Sorry, dude. But the record belongs to unknown gas chamber operator from Nazi death camps.
In Auschwitz the four largest gas chambers could each hold 2,000 people at one time.

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Beria and all the other defendants were sentenced to death on 23 December 1953. When the death sentence was passed, Beria pleaded on his knees for mercy before collapsing to the floor and wailing and crying energetically, but to no avail.[40][not in citation given] The other six defendants were executed by firing squad on the same day the trial ended.[41] Beria was executed separately. He was shot through the forehead by General Pavel Batitsky who had to stuff a rag into Beria's mouth to silence his bawling (his final moments bore great similarity to those of his own predecessor, NKVD Chief Nikolai Yezhov, who begged for his life before his execution in 1940).[42] His body was subsequently cremated and the remains buried in a forest near Moscow.

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>>3370703

on one hand, it feels extremely satisfactory to read that mass murderurs like Beria, Yezhov and Yagoda died begging for mercy at the hands of the ones who moments ago were terrified of their names

but on the other hand, I feel sorry for them, they didn't create the system, they were brought up into it and they simply exploited it by their ambition to rise to the top, if they were in the US now, they would have become successful bankers or entrepreneurs, they simply followed the system to rise to the top and the system was communism with all its brutality and ruthlessness since 1917

>>3370785
see
>>3359558

It was fairly obvious he had to be killed just to avoid a total out of control power struggle. Maybe Beria's version of the USSR would have been more interesting than another 40 years of geriatric troglodytes though, might even still be around today

>>3370703
Considering there are some serious doubts even about the time and circonstance of his death and if he was even still alive during his trial, this little sensational piece is to be taken with a grain of salt

>>3358618
>Arguably, the same can be said of Clinton's foreign aid to 1990s Russia.
>Never make deal with tyrants and corrupt autocrats. They are all psychopaths waiting to stab you in the back when the wind changes.

Loving every laugh.

>>3355700
>In 1949, when we went to maximum power [soviet atomic project], came Kurchatov and Beria. To our laboratory. Beria then was nothing like today portrayed. All were tortured, not enough sleep, red eyes, bags under eyes, a bedraggled cloak, not very rich. Work, work, work. Us beauties, did not even look at. The first day I arrived, got out of the car and rubs the ass: "What you have lousy roads!" Another day comes – lame: went to sleep, and underneath the mesh fell through the bed. And no one was arrested. And then one day passed in socialist town... Because Chelyabinsk-40 is the towns Tatis and Tech, ancient Russian settlements, among them a number of kilometers. And here for Tech pass the first wooden theatre. All gathered: free-walking prisoners, prisoners under escort, engineers, guards, Muzrukov and Beria himself. His driver is dormant and bedraggled cloak of Beria, the same in which he first came, it's in the car. The celebration was over, Beria returned to the car, and no cloak, stolen by someone. And also no one was arrested. The impression that he generally didn't care about anything other than work

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I'm surprised Stalin didn't have him killed earlier considering how much he apparently was frightened by the possibility of Beria raping his daughter. Was Beria really good at his job or something? He seems terrifying.

>>3359964
does this guy know russian at least, or is he just another british 'historian'

>>3372396
Stalin obviously found Beria was too efficient to be dead, he was as efficient as Dzerzhinsky yet with no conscience like an animal, exactly the kind Stalin liked

>>3364976
>Sure, the Germans gassed millions of people, there is evidence of this, documents
2kk soviet pows die in captivity, USSR consides the reason for that starvation, deceases and overall intentional neglect. Some people die, suddenly it was scheme to kill them all. We even got evidence from survivors that were moved from camp to camp for years during ww2. And survived. I do not even doubt whole holohoax thing but why do they always feel the need to add layers of bullshit?

>One of his rape victims recalls during an interview that everyday he received, while on his summer house, what seemed to be a random prisonner from the gulags near moscow. He would lead him inside into his "reception room" as he called it and violently stab the prisonner multiple times. Then when he finished his gruesome work he would extract the liver and heart of his victim and eat then later during dinner in a very respectable manner. "I much prefer the children's" she recall him saying "They taste much better although they are quite smaller". These allegations were corroborated by the proofs layed during his trial shortly before his execution in december 1953.

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>>3372787
I almost believed it

>>3372787
hmm

>>3360091
The Jews ran the USSR up until Stalin took over, then nominally, then almost not at all after the purges. They retook power after Perestroika while that drunk Yeltsin was in power doing whatever Clinton wanted. Why do you think kikes like Hannah Arendt have such a hate boner for him, comparing him to Hitler?

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>>3372497
Anon you have to remember that people who suffered under their tormentors tend to be emotional as fuck. Many of them won't care about being intellectually honest, not to the extent that academics and students who lived more comfortable lives do.

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>>3355700
this thread is too good to die

>>3356929
>A sociopathic rapist may have been the best choice from a utilitarian standpoint.

Your notion of utilitarian benefit is taken from the Western point of view. The Russian people were better off without any such compromise: the fall of USSR starting from the '60s is only a proof of that.

>>3359950
Found this in another thread, didn't check the links but seems intresting:
His main sources about the rapes are from Larisa Vasilyeva "Kremlin's wifes" which is a book writen by a feminist and is based upon "the author's own interviews, research and guesswork" (i.e bullshit). He cites Deriabin about Beria getting syphylis, which is pretty funny considering he doesn't source this claim and he was a defector that joined the CIA in 1954.
Finally his main source are the Plenum of the central committee and the documents from his trial. Now, all of those were complete nonsense. First the main accusation that was made during the plenum against Beria was that he was an Imperialist agent for wanting a "unified and neutral germany", which is a nonsense accusation since a lot of his accusators held this view a few months before and even Stalin himself
Here is some documentation about that:
http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/111311.pdf?v=d5cacca16257c82fe29d816ff31da934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_Note
https://monderusse.revues.org/pdf/14

Now about the rapes themselves, there isn't much to say, this is very obscure since they are all based upon allegations and supposed testimonies. For exemple the fact that Beria brought in his appartement some girls everynight is testified by W. Averell Harriman who worked at the us embassy that was supposed to be close by. This is dubious at best.
There is of course Vasilyeva but i already talked about her. And then mostly there is this famous "list" of mistresses that he supposedly had and testified against him during his show trial.
About this there is a very intresting study made in Russia about some claims made by Beria's son which showed that this list was the same list as some other guy's supposed mistresses too. I don't know about the credibility of this investigation but it is worth a look:
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/17027

>>3376589
so what about the corps of young girls they found in 1990s when his house became the Tunisian embassy?

>>3376802
Holy shit, seriously?
>tfw Beria actually existed