How did Turks become the most powerful people in the middle east?

Constantinople was impregnable until the invention of sophisticated cannons, this probably played a role allowing the city to build up significant wealth and power

barbarian horse archers who were already assimilated into the culture of the area they were conquering

>>3354402

The Turks were OP long before 1453

wikipedia says nobody knows how the early ottomans were able to dominate their neighbours

>>3354402
>>3354434

>everything I know about Turks is only related to Byzantium

Military slavery cause arabs and Persians didn't want to be in armies
The caliphate from like 630 to 950 is like the whole rise and fall of Rome sped up

>>3354437

and you believe the rise of turks is not related to byzantium? how could it not be?

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>>3354342
They were originally slave soldiers (Mamlukes) to the different Persian states that had arisen after the fragmentation of the Abbasid Empire.

And as the story goes the Ghaznavid Turks of the Samanid Empire rebelled against their masters and conquerer their territories in modern Central Asia.
At the same time the Seljuks, who were still loyal towards the Samanids rebelled against the Ghaznavids and took over their territories. But because the Samanid leadership no longer existed they would claim leadership in their stead and set their sights to conquer Buyid lands and secure the remaining Abbasid rule of Baghdad.

And with controlling the "Center of Islam" with the Abbasids as their puppet and all former Persian lands it was easy to get the rest to fall in place, minus the remaining Shia lands of Fatimid rule.

>>3354445

The Turks literally had to conquer their way all the way across the Middle-East before they even shared a border with Byzantium. The Ottomans didn't even exist until centuries after the Turks had overrun the Middle-East and kickstarted the Crusades.

>>3354342
>for ottomans
They already controlled the North and by proclaiming the caliphate titles they had the bedioun niggers swear allegiance to them voluntarily so basically they had everyone else in the middle east cornered

>>3354342
Turks are the Germans of the Islamic world, judge it as you want.

>>3355640
>and by proclaiming the caliphate titles they had the bedioun niggers swear allegiance to them voluntarily so basically they had everyone else in the middle east cornered
It's more complicated than that. They basically swooped in when the MENA world was extremely fragmented and united it.

In that point in history zealots like the Crusaders were capable of ripping open a path right through the Caliphate despite it being one of the most powerful 'powers' in the world back then. Every king back wanted nothing more than for his rivals to be weakened. And every time a local leader tried to organize a concerted response to the invasion, he would get assassinated by a Crusader state allying with a native rival.

Flash forward to this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nur_ad-Din_(died_1174)
Who's basically like "Why the fuck are we ripping each other apart? We should create a real 'ummah' and take down those guys instead!". He was mostly successful but it would be Saladin who actually fulfilled his dream a few decades later.

>>3354342
>Turks

Turkmen*

>>3355770
lol
get the fuck outta here, turkmens are russo-mongolian rape babies. they did not embrace islam.

>>3354342
Manzikert was a gigantic clusterfuck for the Byzantines, the majority of the army which consisted of mercenaries deserted the battle and the Turks took advantage of it. Unbelievable how a simple mistake like that could enable the Turks to establish dominance in the area.

>>3355770
well technically this but i think we both can claim seljuks as our own
>>3355838
what the fuck are you talking about wh*Te falseflagger subhuman