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Romans --> Italians
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>>3349287
t. Terrone
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Illyrians --> Hercegovinans
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>>3349312
HERCEGOVNO !!!
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>American

Hmmmm
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>>3349287
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Canaanites --> Hebrews

Hebrews --> Jews
Hebrews --> Samaritans
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>>3349340
I thought the Jews were supposed to eradicate the Canaanites?
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>>3349353
Yeah, they didn't consider themselves Canaanites, but they categorically were.
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>>3349340
>>3349353
>>3349368

It's important to distinguish between the Hebrews and the other regional natives called Canaanites, in Jewish and Christian biblical history. Going far back enough, yes, they could have emerged from the same stock, but there were enough differences already by the time the Hebrews had disputes with the people referred to as Canaanites.
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'This is what the Sovereign LORD says to Jerusalem: Your ancestry and birth were in the land of the Canaanites; your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite.'
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>>3349557
>>3349340
Jews saying they're not Canaanites would be like Poles saying they're not Slavs. They can believe what they want but facts are facts.
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>>3349557
> It's important to distinguish between the Hebrews and the other regional natives called Canaanites
The only difference was religion, ethnically and linguistically they were exactly the same. Yahwism was just a Canaanite cult based around the Canaanite deity Yahweh. The reason the bible says they are different is because the Jews wanted to disconnect themselves from child sacrificers, even though they used to worship Moloch as well.
>Going far back enough, yes, they could have emerged from the same stock
Nope. They objectively did come from the same stock. Hebrew is a Canaanite language for fucks sake. The Edomites, Ammonites, and Moabites all spoke Hebraic-dialects.
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>>3349323
Fuck off
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>>3349568
>like Poles saying they're not Slavs
poles are the most slavic slavs in the world.
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>>3349568
>Jews saying they're not Canaanites would be like Poles saying they're not Slavs.

This.
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>>3349655
jews are the most canaanite canaanites in the world. they especially are considering they are the only canaanite population that preserved the canaanite language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_language
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>>3349287
Germans --> Wisconsinites
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>>3349655
You're a very bright person with a very bright future.
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>>3349683
Fuck how did Germans grow black skin
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>>3349287
t. """"""""it*lian""""""""" amerimongrel
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>>3349710
germans were always black
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>>3349287
There's no such a thing as an "italian people", Gennaro. That's how I know you are a dumb diaspora terrone who believes he's italian out of his own misery and failure as human being.

Italy is an artificial country and italians are an artificial people.

t. Actual "italian"
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>romans
what makes a lombard more roman than a person from andalusia?
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>>3350231
>what makes a lombard more roman than a person from andalusia

Rome, Italy
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>>3349287
Grey Aliens ----> Argentinians
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>>3350236
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Medes --> Kurds
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>>3350236
This country is garbage. Pls nuke it.
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Hittites ----> Turks

Cavemen --> wH*tes
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>>3350243
Nothing worse than a self hating cuck.
I can go fuck your women if you feel unworthy. It's ok. You can watch.
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dacians ---> romans ---> dacians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Densu%C8%99ianu
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>>3349287
Ancient Egyptians ----> Copts
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>>3350262
WE
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>>3349710
Germany was black-majority before/during WWII.
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>>3349287
>>3350266
Egyptians ---> Egyptians
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>>3350267
WUZ
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>>3350272
No, Arab/Muslim Egyptians are distinct from Copts and Ancient Egyptians.
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>>3349340
>Hebrews --> Jews

More like Khazars --> Jews
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>>3350272
Egyptian as a Nationality is a colonial invention. Before that, the Arabs identified as Arabs, the Nubians identified as Nubians, and the Copts identified as Copts. Egyptian Arabs are the equivalent to Mestizos with Arabs and Egyptians, while Copts are equivalents to the full-blooded Indian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaonism
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>>3350304
i want to fuck their dirty assholes and watch my cum mixed with their shit come out
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>>3350287
more like Khazars ---> milkers
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>>3350287
How do you believe this, if this isn't b8. It's gotta be one of the most retarded genetic theories i've ever heard. Especially considering Jews are by far the most tested people genetically in the world.
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>>3350313
>Reverse psychology

You're still Khazars, (((Anon)))
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>>3350344
You are the one repeating a Jewish theory thought up by Judah halevi, and has since been pushed solely by Jews. I care about historical truth, not ridiculous theories with no evidence.
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>>3350375
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/scientists-reveal-jewish-historys-forgotten-turkish-roots-a6992076.html

Ashkenazi Jews are objectively Khazars.
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>>3350263
>argentinian women
That's how I know you are a brownskin
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>>3350379
>Elhaik's study was criticized for its use of Armenians and Azerbaijani Jews as proxies for Khazars and for using Bedouin and Jordanian Hashemites as a proxy for the Ancient Israelites.

Armenians... as proxies for Khazars..
Bedouins... as proxies for Israelites..

>Azerbaijani Jews are also assumed for the purposes of the study to have Khazarian ancestry, when Mountain Jews are actually descended from Persian Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Jews

This is why he had to backtrack and claim the original Ashkenazim were Iranian-Slavs.

>The decision to cast Bedouin/Hashemites as "proto-Jews" was especially seen as political in nature, considering that both have origins in Arab tribes from the Arabian Peninsula rather than from the Ancient Israelites, while the descent of the Jews from the Israelites is largely accepted

>The study was also criticized as interpreting information selectively—The study found far more genetic similarity between the Druze and Ashkenazim than the Ashkenazim and Armenians, but Elhaik rejected this as indicating a common Semitic origin, instead interpreting it as evidence of Druze having Turkic origins when they are known to come from Syria.

There are so many holes in this dudes argument. The fact that so many /pol/tards and left-wing Palestinian pseudo-activists love to quote his studies is hilarious to me.
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>>3350388
>buttblasted apegentinian
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>>3350263
>argentine (((((women)))))
Yes goy, yes. Argentinian who- I mean women are the definition of feminity. Take with you all you want, you won't be disappointed :^)
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>>3350409
>deluded brownskin
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>>3349287
Il terrone ameriCANO, signori
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>>3350268
That's a german american tho
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>>3350423
>feminity
Only weak pussies care about that. I will pump and dump your women with my big Colombian cock, I won't care if they are whores, better for me.

Expect me... I'll be going there this december. You can watch me fuck your qts and lick my semen dripping out of their pink little assholes after Im done :^)
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>>3350427
Monkey, there is nothing worse than a self-hating cuck. I've made an observation and there is nothing more than hate, coming from you.
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>>3350435
>IL TERÙN, SIGNORI
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>>3350344
I'm a Russian who lives in Kazan and virtually all of these guys look like a bunch of Tatars, so maybe there is some truth to the Khazar hypothesis
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>>3350500
>they look like ___, they must be ___

Russian logic at it's finest.
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>>3350399
>while the descent of the Jews from the Israelites is largely accepted
WE WUZ HEBREWS N SHONG

Nobody consider Jews as Israelites
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>>3350543
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groups_claiming_affiliation_with_Israelites
>It is accepted that the Jews and the Samaritans are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
The only people who contest this are WE WUZZERS
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Israelism
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Israelism
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Israelism
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-Jewish_common_ancestry_theory
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
WE
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Kashmiri_descent_from_lost_tribes_of_Israel
WE
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>>3349710
>>3350080
get volk
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>>3350554
>It is accepted that the Jews
WE WUZ HEBREWS N POO

>Samaritans are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
Nobody claimed that they weren't Hebrews, aside from the LARPers know as Jews
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>>3350543
I'm sorry, but you are retarded if you think Bedouins are a good proxy for Ancient Israelites but Jews & Samaritans aren't. You are retarded if you think Mountain Jews and Armenians are a good proxy for Khazars.
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>>3350235
>implying Rome is in Lombardy
>implying Rome was part of the Lombard kingdom
???
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>>3350567
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans
>Genetically, modern Samaritan populations are found to have "much greater affinity" genetically to Jews than to neighbouring Palestinian Arabs.

This kills the LARPer.
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>>3350279
>>3350304
Not enough to make a difference lel.
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>>3349287
Pre-Indo-Europeans --> Sardinians
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>>3350584
Indeed
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>>3350570
It is (((You))) that claimed that Samaritans were Assyrian colonists

The Samaritans kept their Paleo-Hebrew Alphabet, their Patrilinear System(as in the Bible), they kept their Torah and added no books as for (((You))) you changed your alphabet to the Assyrian Alphabet, your system is Matrilinear, and you added dozens of Books to the Torah.

At this point i don't think you're related in anyway to Hebrews


>>3350575
>much greater affinity" genetically to Jews

Jews does not cluster between themselves evenless with Samaritans
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>>3350638
>It is (((You))) that claimed that Samaritans were Assyrian colonists
I never claimed anything. Collective guilt is immoral.
>The Samaritans kept their Paleo-Hebrew Alphabet
No they didn't. That alphabet is fairly recent.
>At this point i don't think you're related in anyway to Hebrews
This is literal bait. There are Jews who have been in Canaan since Biblical times and they cluster very close with Jewish diaspora groups.
>>3350638
Your unsourced study proves nothing. Here's a sourced study, done in a Lebanese university (Lebanon, that country that definitely wants to prove Israeli narratives). Pic related is an actual study, which is actually sourced.

Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316
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>>3350638
>tell him he has no connection whatsoever to Hebrews
>simultaneously blame him for Ezra's opinions on the origin of Samaritans

Which one is it? Why are stormfags so logically inconsistent?
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>>3350681
>Your unsourced study proves nothing

Pic related is from "Genetics and the history of the Samaritans: Ychromosomal microsatellites and genetic affinity between Samaritans and Cohanim"

Samaritans kept their purity til the end, Jews are just a mixed race with a wewuzing-fetish


>>3350712
Ezra never existed, he is the product of the Rabbis
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>>3349323
>1/8th of the good parts of italy are austrian
lmao
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>>3350757
>Samaritans kept their purity til the end, Jews are just a mixed race with a wewuzing-fetish

You are clearly trolling. Middle Eastern Jews are just as pure as any Samaritan.
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>>3350777
>ignoring the ENORMOUS gap between Hebrews(Samaritans) and Goyim(Jews, Bedouins, Druzes, and son)

Samaritans practiced inbreeding to the point they developed several genetical disorders. What about you ?
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>>3350236
>>3350238
AYYYYY LMAO
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>>3350828
>a study of 238 people
Nice study.

Proves nothing. Doesn't disprove any of the recent comprehensive studies. Why do you have to ruin a good thread with your pseudo-history? How do you discount all the linguistic evidence? How do you discount all the archeological evidence? How do you discount all the genetic evidence? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>3350828
You do realize the Samaritan split happened because Assyria occupied the Northern Kingdom and renamed it Samaria, right? Samaritans don't even identify as Samaritans, they see it as a colonial name.
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>>3350263
>diaspora
She doesn't counts mate. Diaspora people are garbage
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>>3349312
HerceGOVNA
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Phoenicians --> Lebanese Maronites
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Franks --> french
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Egyptians --> African Americans
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>>3350857
t. LARPers

I have countless studies that prove that you are just LARPers
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Minoans---->Cretans
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>>3350857
Friendly reminder that Jews are just a bunch of Arabs, Italians, Berbers, and Greeks LARPing as Hebrews
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Greeks --> Greeks
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Greeks --> Turks
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Iron Age Britons --> modern Brits
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>>3349287
Ancient Mesopotamians ---> Modern Assyrians
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Phoenicians -> Cypriots
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>>3350266
>>3350879
>>3351566
Based Christian Middle Easterners
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>>3351413
>Neglecting the contribution of Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Normans and Vikings to modern Britain's genepool
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>>3349287
Mongols ---> Russians
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>>3349287
Italians weren't originally all Roman. There were different ethnic groups living in Italy well before the Romans conquered the entire peninsula.
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>>3351566
Cherrypicker
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>>3352025
Fuck Shitalians
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Angles > British
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>>3351566
No sweetie

Ancient Mesopotamians --> Kurds
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>>3352091
But why?
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Turks --> Greeks
Arabs --> Egyptians
Khazars --> Jews
Mongols --> Chinese
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Koreans --> Japanese
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>>3350638
Ashkenazi, Sephardi Jews (North Africa), and Mizrahim all descend from Khazarian merchants that traded across the silk road.

The high frequency of haplogroup G attests to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_with_Haplogroup_G

>>3350968
Cross Berbers and Arabs off that list.
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>>3353044
>The high frequency of haplogroup G
J2 = 20%
J1 = 19%
E1b1b1 = 19%

J2, J1, and E1b1b1 show up twice as much among Jews than G. Please take your pseudo-history to >>>/pol/
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>>3353044
>Sephardi Jews predates the existence of Khazars
>Mizrahi Jews predate the existence of Khazars
>Italian Jews predate the existence of Khazars
>Romaniotes predate the existence of Khazars
>Somehow they descend from a group they pre-date

Babylonians descend from African-Americans. See how retarded that sounds?
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>>3349287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trBxPFLq__g
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>>3353626
J1 and J2 are both markers that peak in the Caucasus.

>>3353658
>He thinks the Jewish communities that came from there today are the ones that lived there all those years ago.

Nearly all significant Jewish communities were formed during the Khazarian khanate. The roman era ones assimilated.
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Atlantis=Uralic Tribes>Scythia>White Serbia>Serbia
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>>3353711
>Nearly all significant Jewish communities were formed during the Khazarian khanate.

You can't be this retarded. Sephardic Jews are the ones who made up the idea of the Khazars even being Jewish. Judah HaLevi forged a letter supposedly from a Khazar king, that's somehow in perfect Hebrew with no turkic influences whatsoever with clear Ladino influences.

Middle Eastern Jews predate the Khazars existence by thousands of years.

> J1 and J2 are both markers that peak in the Caucasus.

This is because haplomemes prove very little. Genetics is what matters, and genetics show all Jews (except Yemenites and Ethiopians) tracing most of their ancestry to the Levant. I don't get why you like to ruin these threads, you clearly have no clue how genetics or haplogroups even function.
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Greece.
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Gaul -> French
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>>3349340
I hate how the Canaanites got shafted in the Bible,and made out to be villains, culturally and religiously. El dindu nuffins.
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>>3349287
not true. The italian peninsula was depopulated during the justinian war and subsequence plagues. There are lombards langobards and other barbarians.
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>>3354038
>Italians aren't Roman
>Rome is literally in Italy

Why is /his/ filled with so many brainlets?
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>>3349287
t.errone
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>>3354038

Not true, while many territories lost population, the same had happened before in history, and rather it was more that the depopulation of the cities accelerated as the economy collapsed.
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Ruthenians -> Belarusians, Ukrainians
Ruthenians + Kipchaks, Cumans -> Ukrainians
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>>3354099
>Italians all live in Rome
>All Italians come from Rome

Why are you such a brainlet
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>>3351638
>phoenicians
>Christians
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