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believe it or not, Stalin was considered a moderate among the

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believe it or not, Stalin was considered a moderate among the old Bolsheviks, the question is: what if Stalin was killed or ((((died))) between 1917 and 1924, (((Sverdlov))) or (((Trorsky))) were the strongest candidates to lead the USSR, would the USSR have become any better, peaceful or stronger under their leadership? would socialism still have influence today?
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>>3345592
>would the USSR have become any better, peaceful or stronger under their leadership?
No, STalin was the only thing that prevented (((them))) from taking the power and ruining everything.
>would socialism still have influence today?
It still has.
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>>3345592

Trotsky was a major fanatic of the "permanent revolution" and wouldn't stop until communism is the only form of government in the world. Under him USSR would fund communist uprisings (the same way Russia now funs extreme right) in Europe.

World War 2 would still happen but now instead of "everyone vs nazis" it would've likely been "capitalist sphere vs communism sphere".

Germany would've likely been full communist with Nazis being the main underground source of resistance and fascism would've been a much stronger as the western Europe would've likely gone full Mussolini as reaction to the commies.

Ironically chances are the world war 2 would've been even bigger, bloodier and all around worse if Trotsky was at the helm of the USSR.
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>>3345809
stop it, I can only get so erect.
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>>3345809
>Russia funds extreme right uprisings in Europe
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>>3345592

>Germany would've likely been full communist

Most of German commies leader were already killed by freikorps patriots in 1919, before the Trosky-Stalin feud.

The German communist party was still big, but without leaders to make it effective, so a revolution is still a difficult scenario.
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>>3345809
>Under him USSR would fund communist uprisings

Are you saying they didn't do that under Stalin?
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As bad as Stalin was, I genuinely think he was the leader the USSR needed during WW2
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>>3345592
>>3345679
Just say the Jews. Be honesty about your absurd preoccupation. Be proud anti-semites.

Your persecution complex is deluded, and causes people to take you less seriously.

In fact, go out into the streets and preach.
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>>3346502
>Purge
>Trusting Hitler
>Invasion of Finland and Poland
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>>3346521
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>>3346545
> Be honest and proud.

>Le ur a screaming jew maymay

oi vey lad
that's the spirit
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>>3346538
Exactly. He beat hitler but not without weaking his own country. It was a win-win for the rest of the allies
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>>3346538
He didn't trust hitler if I recall. In fact, he intended on betraying the non-aggression pact faster than hitler.

(I'm assuming you're talking about the non aggression pact)
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>>3346563
>He didn't trust hitler if I recall. In fact, he intended on betraying the non-aggression pact faster than hitler.
Where did you heard that? Only thing that comes close is one of Zhukov's plan on preemptive strike against Nazis, but that was denied as soon as it got to Stalin.

>>3346554
The success of German Zerg rush-can be attributed to Stalin fucking up command structure and no preparing for a potential Greman attack.
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>>3346563
>posting geralt while talking about russia
heresy
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>>3346484
Depends where. When Greece was occupied by the Nazis, the communist resistance group, which was under the orders of Stalin, attacked the republican resistance group instead of the Nazi occupiers. That changed when Germany launched Operation Barbarossa though.
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>>3346659

>spanish civil war
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>>3346627
Ah, it was Zhukov
misremembered
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>>3346627
> Zhukov's plan
Stalin didn't refuse it, I remember I did read he accepted it in May and even talked to other Politburo members about it, but there was no time, the Nazi invasion was executed within a month
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Just say Jews, faggot.
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