What are the benefits of the past 60 years of sex education?

They've triggered the average /pol/tard

>>3340664
This. A worthy achievement in and of itself and ample reason to continue with it.

>>3340472
The benefits are clear, a better world.

>>3340664

fpbp

>>3340684
Another unfunny poltard aberration.

/thread*

>>3340472
>they teach teenagers that phallus goes into orifice in middle school therefore 8 year olds in drag and anti-slut-shaming marches!
this is your brain on /pol/

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good looking traps

sadly they're a very very very small minority and the rest are hideous monstrosities

rest of it produces distasteful faggotry

>>3340664
lmao /thread

nothing. just cultural marxism trying to subvert the west but people are waking up to its bullshit

>>3340717
I think you need to make another tinfoil hat, yours is already deteriorated.

>>3340720
actually i just made a new one last week cultural marxists arent going to use radiowaves to program my head

>>3340720
>strawman as an argument
typical

>>3340747
>a delusion as an argument
Typical.

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dis gun b gud

>>3340472
People actually know how to have sex now. And the number of STDs decreased by a lot.

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>>3340717

>>3340967
Well not in the gay community buddy.
And its completly fucked what they deem "normal" and "healthy" now. Its not ok to flaunt around an 8 year old as drag queen, as if the little lad can make a well thought out decision on that. Its just his parents virtue signaling.
Its a sign of a sick society, nothing more.

>>3340472
>university of Waterloo

Fuck..

>>3340994
Because the actions of one parent has an academic cause, alright.
>tips tinfoil-hat

>>3340472
It's interesting to see the differences between the boards.
On /pol/ this thread would have reached post limit and been archived hours ago.

>>3340994
>And its completly fucked what they deem "normal" and "healthy" now. Its not ok to flaunt around an 8 year old as drag queen, as if the little lad can make a well thought out decision on that. Its just his parents virtue signaling.
>This is brought about by sex ed.
Ok buddy

>>3340472
None. Abstinence only sex education is horrifically counter productive and creates all the degenerate shit you see in your image.

>>3341017
Where did I say something about academic cause?
>>3341039
Not sex ed in general. thats fine. I was talking about grooming 6-8 year old boys to the point they think they are trans. Its fucked up.
They put 12 year old kids on hormone blockers and shit for christ sake.

It depends on the school and the curriculum. Generally, research has shown that teens who'renot only informed of sex but also who discuss sex in a relatively safe environment, are less likely to view sex in a negative and taboo way. Less stigma and more discussion.

>>3341079
Sex education is based on academic studies.
Sex education is what the poltard OP is chimping out about.

Aaaand, you just posted a case where you don't support parents actions in a thread about Sex education.

Got it already?

>>3340664
kek

>>3341097
Yeah got it.
Well the amount of batshit insane liberal types at schools has skyrocketed in the last 15 years, at least here in Germany.
They teach more promiscous retarded stuff.
And this swaps over to general population.
I mean I come from the gayest city on earth, Cologne we have like 100k gays in a city of 1 million. I dont have a problem with all that stuff. But somehow the US took a wrong turn somehow ( even in the academic sector with all the fucking gender studies etc) which is dripping into the general social life of the people.
And a lot of the shit that these types deem "normal and healthy" are infact destructive to society.
And before anyone says it, no im not a naziboo no i dont go to pol often just for lulz sometimes and no I dont vote Afd.

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>>3340717
Those marxists ruining everything!

>>3341110
So you admit you were criticizing academia.
>destructive to society
More destructive than oppresing women and gender-different people for centuries? I don't think so.

>>3340472
Better usage of condoms and more abortions helping to check population growth.

>>3341134

You are retarded, the main point of cultural marxism is that they give you a code of ethics that seems irrefutable but you don't know that those ethics actually make the world shittier

You don't realize you are actually fucking everything up until it's too late

>>3341160
>gender-different people
No such thing existed before the later half of 1900s. Polyqueer 5-dimensional transautismo is a modern invention.

>>3341160
>gender-different
Wew lad

>>3340472
Sex ed and abortions stops poor people from shitting out babies that clog and hordes welfare system.

That's a fact.

What we really need to do is encourage middle class and upper class couples to have more children.

>>3341179
>>3341185
>chromosomes
>no such thing existed in 1000AC
Hmm...

>>3341160
>>3341160
women oppresing - yes. But gender-different people aren`t so significant and value part of population.
*other anon*

>>3340472
Having a hideous dyke explain sex to you probably encourages abstinence.

>>3341160
Somehow I doubt brainwashing kids "to be who you want to be :)" from a very early age in state-sponsored schools and kindergartens is more preferable to a more traditional approach.

>>3340967
Rates are up like 60% since 2007

>>3340472
More like the free enterprise of letting Jew owned media and entertainment companies push their ideals for profit is what caused the degeneracy that is talked about today.

>>3341201
You meant germaphroditism, yes? Becouse from point of vision of genetics, there is only two gender.

>>3341169
How come there's reports about how Europe and Japan need immigrants if governments are trying to check population?

>>3341214
>hermaphroditism
fix

>>3341203
They are people, enough reason to do it.
>>3341206
You keep showing cases of practical use of academia knowledge. As expected you know nuffin.

Keep it on. I wonder why all these kids keep answering with the same irony format text...

>>3341214
The point is the following: the year of the studies are irrelevant.

*sips tea*

>>3341216
It's a ponzi scheme called the welfare state, you need to import low IQ manual labor and pay them below minimum wage to support the retirement plans of the aging natives.

>>3341227
>They are people,
They're mentally ill people who suffer from a mental illness called gender dysphoria. They should not be enabled.

>>3341239
So you disagree with the gender variation studies but agree with the woman sexual liberation, right?

>>3341227
>They are people, enough reason to do it
yes, but their oppresions isn`t so destructive for humanity as oppresion of main and traditional part of socies.

>>3341244
What do you mean by woman sexual liberation? Do you mean the writings of de beauvoir and the garbage ideology it spawned? The "liberating" act of acting like a total slut and choosing not to have kids? Absolutely not.

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>>3340991
This

>>3341239
Nah they should just keep age restrictions on when people can "transition". Past societies had eunuchs and buttfuckers and prohibiting it would go against what has been practiced for centuries and unlike slavery isn't socially oppressive.

>>3341257
*starves internally*

>>3341247
I don't see how it is so destructive for humanity. If anything they are oppresing the former oppresor mechanism, not the individuals.

>>3341251
So you don't know about the sex education and academic implications.

Dumb brainlets.

>>3341258
What the hell are you talking about, eunuchs didn't choose to become eunuchs you retard.

>>3341266
>So you don't know about the sex education and academic implications.
The hell is that supposed to even mean? And you dare call me a brainlet?

>academic implications
That doesn't mean anything!

>>3341257
>family structure
um excuse me True Communism™ has the commune as the family, babies are swapped at birth so nobody knows who's they are raising ensuring all are raised well like how Herodotus described some North African tribes :-D

>>3341267
You mean trans and gay people don't chose to become what they are. The difference between now and then is its potential for growth like everything else in a post-industrial world.

>>3341279
Sure they chose, nobody's forcing them. Back then if you were captured you'd get castrated regardless if you suffered from gender dysphoria or not. Are you so fucking retarded you can't distinguish these two different situations?

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>>3341258
>comparing deluded trannies to slaves castrated under restraint
>using this as a precedent
back to /lgbt/ you loon

>>3340472
Theoretically speaking, it was supposed to reduce teenage pregnancy and STDs. As it turns out, sexual education is useless at that.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1612/S00201/comprehensive-sex-education-a-failure.htm

Sex education, in general doesn't work because:

1- Abstinence sexual education fails because you have one discipline saying students should not be having sex out of wedlock, while at the same time you have the whole media saying the opposite, sending to young people the message that they are failures if they are not having sex out of marriage.

2- Comprehensive sexual education tends to teach hedonistic sexual ethics (they basically teach "have sex, as long as it is consensual and safe"), which increase promiscuity. So the reductions in pregnancy and STDs due to people using condoms are nullified by people having sex more often. It also has the other harmful effects that a hedonistic sexual ethics has.

>>3341244
"Sexual liberation" was a disaster. You can't even call it liberation, since it turned a large amount of people into slaves of their bodies.

>>3341298
>So the reductions in pregnancy and STDs due to people using condoms are nullified by people having sex more often.
then how come states with abstinence sex education have higher rates of teen pregnancy?

>>3341298
>The Association degrades our sexuality by promoting sexual perversions such as masturbation
Is this nigga serious?

>>3341307
>1- Abstinence sexual education fails because you have one discipline saying students should not be having sex out of wedlock, while at the same time you have the whole media saying the opposite, sending to young people the message that they are failures if they are not having sex out of marriage.

Who do you think they will listen to, "their boring teacher" who gives then one or two hours per week of sexual education or super cool movie stars and magazine writers?

>>3341307
Probably has higher % of niggers?

>>3341269
It's simple. This thread is about sex education AKA, academic basis of such education. Go make another worthy question, brainlet.

>>3341304
Where is the proof of your statement?

>>3341319
So it's benefitial to society then.

>>3341320
>Where is the proof of your statement?

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2014/12/is-sex-necessary

http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

>>3341320
Is english not your first language? Otherwise you have no excuse.

>>3341312
Masturbation today is very harmful with a lot of people doing it 2 times every day or more, negating the meme muh prostate argument for it as beneficial.

>>3341329
Unlimited masturbation and porn use are causing a lot of problems.

I remember reading a paper that has shown that the brains of habitual porn users was not very different from that of drug users.

>>3341324
So you don't know about the content of sex education and its academic implications?
If this isn't english, then english might be the most brainlet language if I created a completely different one in one moment.

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>>3341331
Yeah fapping too much destroys your grey matter or something like that, spooky stuff. The internet is a blessing and a curse.

>>3341331
shit. Aren`t some cure?
*6-year long porn user*

>>3341291
>all eunuchs were war booty
wew lad

>>3340472
That it works, but damn Americans don't know moderation

>>3341340
Stoicism/Buddhism/Catholicism

>>3341331
>I remember reading a paper that has shown that the brains of habitual porn users was not very different from that of drug users.
Complete bullshit, there is no mechanism through which porn would destroy your pain. If there are any similarities it would either be because the people who tend to become drug addicts are the same type of people who tend to become porn addicts or gambling addicts or anything addicts, or because a lot of porn users are actual drug addicts.

>>3341323
>happiness reports
>more oppresed
Nope.
>if sex liberates what it liberates from
Simple, the choice of women to engage in casual sex with whoever she desires if the other person wants too.

>sexual liberation was a disaster
Sexual liberation freed women from an oppresive social spectations.

>>3341357
*pain
brain, clearly porn has destroyed mine

>>3341291
>>3341296
I bet you also think families in the paleolithic consisted of a stay at home mom who suckled the babies and a father who went out with the rest of the tribe to endure the weather in their hunt for food to bring back to the camp, setting the precedent for the modern nuclear family.

>>3341331
but anon traps are a gift of God

>>3341339
I can assure you shitposting and browsing trashy social media all day has a greater impact on your cognitive faculties than fapping 2 or 3 times.

>>3340664

savage

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>>3341376

>>3341373
What is this irrelevant thing you're raising out of nowhere, was it another talking point on your gender studies course laddette?

>>3341361
>Nope.

Why not? It is not because something goes against your priors that it is wrong.

>Simple, the choice of women to engage in casual sex with whoever she desires if the other person wants too.

Not all choices are equally good. Becoming a promiscuous person, a pleasure seeker is bad for your well being. It also makes you a less reliable spouse.
What we have now is a kind of societal ideology leads to more people doing bad life choices.

>Sexual liberation freed women from an oppresive social spectations.
Every society has its expectations. And a society that values chastity and temperance will lead to happier and healthier people than a society like ours, that values promiscuity and over indulgence, who teaches people that happiness is found on material goods and your genitals?

>>3341397
i don't really care if it's gay i just care that it makes me diamonds

>>3341380
My neurons are on fire from the stimulating discourse ITT pal don't know what you're talking about.

>>3340664
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>>3341388
samefag

>>3341406
It's a fairly generic post as well, not a fan of this cancerous "fpbp" shit that arose like a year or so ago. Ironically it seems to have come from /pol/ / reddit.

>>3341400
>happiness reports
The same that confirmed the oppresion and how they didn't have a social acceptance when engaging casual sex?
Nope.
>Not all choices are equally good
Literally the same argument of communism. The later sentences are based on this simple fallacy you spout.
>chastity and temperance
You mean oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs?

Sexual revolution was obviously a consequence of the past society.

>>3341424
>The same that confirmed the oppresion and how they didn't have a social acceptance when engaging casual sex?
>Nope.
How is this supposed to be an answer to what I have written?

>Literally the same argument of communism. The later sentences are based on this simple fallacy you spout.
I don't know exactly what the communists believe about this, but they are not the only ones that believe that "not all choices are equally good". And which fallacy are you talking about?

>>chastity and temperance
>You mean oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs?

No, chastity and temperance.

>>3340664
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>>3340705
>>3341424

Then you guys tell me communism brainwashing is CIA/Right-wing propaganda. You are the living proof that the demoralization process has happened effectively.
You people are think exactly like Michel Foucault and J.P Sartre.
The only solution is another world war where people will have to work 12h a day for a meal. Then people won't have free time to read communism and be brainwashed like you are.

>>3341178
And by your standards the world is shittier now than before... I mean, a lot of the changes in society came from neoliberalism, specifically what /pol/ calls degeneracy, and that isn't "cultural marxism"

>>3341468

Are you a real person?

>>3340472
>haha dude just stop having sex, the old ways are better!

It's like you don't remember that time when Europe had so many children out of wedlocks. Freud said it was because of lack of sexual freedom. It might sound stupid but maybe he was right, look now, there are way fewer bastards in first world countries.

If you want to see old sex education at work go to any third world country and ask people how many of their grandfathers had bastards.

>>3341451
It's simple. Reports have the same validity as charts, which means nothing, even less when we are talking about "happiness". However, the social oppresion of women is pretty well documented.
>not all choices are equally good
It's simple. I mentioned the fact that they don't have social oppresion restricting them to have casual sex. Then, either you support that action, or you want to change the social POV of that topic, which would oppress women again.
>"chastity and temperance" which lead oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs
or
>sexual liberation
The answer is simple

>>3341489
>women love to act on their lust so once they are free to act on it it will be healthier for everybody

>>3341501
If you don't type your "thoughts" don't expect others to take your delusions seriously.

>>3341084
yes, I bet there is a lot of discussion before a girl goes on tinder or gets to take the pills that her parents love to get for her

>>3341298

This.

Sex education is piss in the breeze trying to fight the hypersexualisation caused by amoral capitalist media propaganda. Sex sells so it benefits companies to activate a childs sexual mind as early as possible in order to sell them a myriad of different products.

>You need new clothes to impress the boys and be like Slutty Mcslut the famous singer/actress
>You need that latest phone for above reasons
>You need to slather yourself with cosmetics as soon as possible or boys will think you're ugly
>Keep buying our music records with music videos that teach you how to be a slut

>>3341307

Teen pregnancy will be epidemic with either sexual education or not when the culture hypsexualises children

>>3341504
>only women

Guess who have sex with women. People are more moral nowadays, even in shit like sex. Before it was extremely common to lose your virginity at 14 or 16 years with a prostitute. Go to a third world country you shitty sheltered first worlder and see how your glorious sex abstinence-based education works.

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>>3341298
Teenage pregnancy has plummeted (in America at least).

>>3341490
>It's simple. Reports have the same validity as charts, which means nothing, even less when we are talking about "happiness".

Why?

>It's simple. I mentioned the fact that they don't have social oppresion restricting them to have casual sex. Then, either you support that action, or you want to change the social POV of that topic, which would oppress women again.

That is in no way an answer to what I have written. And do you think that "ending oppression" means "saying that whatever any woman has ever done is good, because any criticism is oppression"?

>"chastity and temperance" which lead oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs

How so?

reminder that nobody cares about your feeling and that
-men love to overestimate their performance in bed
-men love to be praised by any woman
-men love to underestimate the lust of women
-men love to underestimate the boredom of women
-there is nothing more boring to a woman than to be fucked over and over by only one man
-men love to think that women love men like women love children
-women are in heat all year long
-women see no reward for faithfulness
-women see the reward for sleeping around
-women see no reward for their virginity
-women do not desire to have only one provider for sex
-women do not desire to stay virgin
-women do not know how to stay virgin
-women do not desire to be prude
-women despise ugly asexual men
-women fear of being asexual

>>3341532
>Guess who have sex with women.
No.
I will wait until the people having sex with women tell me what gender they identify as.

>>3341489
>It's like you don't remember that time when Europe had so many children out of wedlocks. Freud said it was because of lack of sexual freedom. It might sound stupid but maybe he was right, look now, there are way fewer bastards in first world countries.

I don't remember Freud writing about this and even if he did he was pretty much wrong about everything he ever said. The percentage of children born out of wedlock is very high in first world countries. In some countries like Iceland they are the majority.

>If you want to see old sex education at work go to any third world country and ask people how many of their grandfathers had bastards.

There was no sexual education in the old times. And if you look at data, you will see that sexual education doesn't work.

>>3340664
first post
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>>3341560
Simple. Charts show differences when people feel happy or not before a terrorist attack and after it.

>any criticism is oppresion
Criticism of the choice to do something is literally criticizing the freedom this person has when it comes to society. It's pretty simple, do you agree with women having choice socially or not?
>How so.
Well you implied "chastity and temperance" happened, meanwhile "oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs" is a historical fact.

As I said before, do you know about the academic basis of sex education and sexual revolution? If you don't know anything about that and are just complaining you aren't getting laid, then this argument ends here, sorry.

>>3341532
The number of lifetime sexual partners increased for most of the last 100 years and only declined this generation.

Many 3rd world countries are very hypersexualized. And we also tend to have "progressive sexual education". I don't know where you got the idea that we have abstinence education. This is pretty much only in the US, which is not a 3rd world country.

>>3341567
They have a penis, that's all you need to know. Are you trying to troll me?
>>3341575
I don't remember it too so google it.
>In some countries like Iceland they are the majority.
Lmao. Anyway, I don't know about statistics in the third world but I can assure it's way higher. The difference is that in the first world I can just go to a bar and pick up chicks. In the third world this might be harder yet it can be done, and people look for it.

>no sexual education
What? Also, which old times? In the Medieval yes you are right. In the 19th century? There was but only anatomy and "where do babies come from" was taught to an extent.

Keep in mind all of this are from cities, in the countryside everything is different. My great great grandmother (third world) didn't know what was a penis until she got married.

>>3341590
>They have a penis, that's all you need to know.
Are you saying that it isn't sex without a penis? That lesbians can't have sex?

>>3341585
>we
>progressive sexual education

That's because you have internet therefore I assume you live in a city with somewhat high quality of life. I too live in a city like and the "progressive" part of sexual education was that there were ways not to get pregnant and have sex. That's all. OP's pick is only taugh in certain first world schools.

This doesn't count if you are brazilian or argentinian since they have some schools with low countries' tier sexual education.

He's saying that when it comes to children out of wedlocks, it takes a vagina and a penis to make one.
Are you that retarded?

>>3341600
can you procreate without normal penis and vagina?

>>3341623
Is it no longer sex if the woman is on birth control?

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Passive population control. That's why the UN desires these as global norms.
In addition it unleashes hypergamy and the haremization of the sexual marketplace. In other words free market pussy means consolidation of sex with the oligarchy ie chads and the pauper-ization for the plebs ie normies. Before modern norms, any taxpaying upstanding male could find a chaste mate. However, this has not persisted because working women killed the one paycheck and taxpayer family.

>>3341623
Is that a real question? Apparently you failed sex ed.

>>3340664
It offends r9k more directly than pol.

>>3341649
Why? is that not true?

>>3340472
That's my school. So this is what my $14 every term is going to.

>>3340991
then why did he shill so hard for autistic twelve tone music?

>>3341581
>Simple. Charts show differences when people feel happy or not before a terrorist attack and after it.

This is not an answer to my post.

>Criticism of the choice to do something is literally criticizing the freedom this person has when it comes to society. It's pretty simple, do you agree with women having choice socially or not?

I repeat: in your view unless you think any choice a woman ever makes is good, you are oppressing her? If a doctor says fat people should make a diet, is he oppressing them? If I say smoking crack is bad, am I oppressing crackheads because I disagree with their choice?

>Well you implied "chastity and temperance" happened, meanwhile "oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs" is a historical fact.

No, I said that a society who values promiscuity over chastity and over indulgence over temperance will be unhealthier and unhappier.

>As I said before, do you know about the academic basis of sex education and sexual revolution? If you don't know anything about that

I posted a meta analysis and a text by Roger Scruton.

>complaining you aren't getting laid

Nice argument, mate. I'm saying that promiscuity is bad.

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>>3340664
it triggers me too and I'm not a /pol/tard in any way. I just don't like sexual decadence and moral decline. It's a sad state of affairs when fucking /pol/, the damn naziboard is the one who defends values like common decency. Stop giving /pol/ the moral highground and acknowledge that this is a problem within our society that has to be dealt with. Do not allow fascism and nazism to become the only solution left for those who want to defend traditionalism and conservatism.

>>3341506
>Men run the risk of impregnating a woman every time they have sex
>Women can go weeks of fucking everyone they want between pregnancy risks
>In an early human tribal society, women would have gone months between ovulation cycles and been infertile for years after giving birth
Inb4 "scarcity doesn't exist and humans should be having babies at least once a year for their entire lives" or "people should only have sex 2-5 times in their entire life, only when they're intentionally trying to have babies"

>>3341590
>Lmao. Anyway, I don't know about statistics in the third world but I can assure it's way higher. The difference is that in the first world I can just go to a bar and pick up chicks. In the third world this might be harder yet it can be done, and people look for it.

Statistics say otherwise.
Asian countries and Muslim countries have very low rates of out of wedlock pregnancies. Latin American countries have high percentages, but they are also very sexualized societies.

>What? Also, which old times? In the Medieval yes you are right. In the 19th century? There was but only anatomy and "where do babies come from" was taught to an extent.

Someone mentioned in the times of our grandparents, so in the 30's/40's. There was no sexual education in that era.

>>3341607
I can't say anything about Argentina, but in Brazil, sexual education IS progressive sexual education.

And everyone in the lower classes watch Rede Globo, that spreads a very libertine kind of sexual ethics to people.

>>3341664
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility_clinic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_insemination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogacy

Never mind that you're dodging the question of whether sterile people, homosexuals and so on can meaningfully have sex.

>>3341716
>Perversions aren't meaningful

>>3341698
What's your point?
Do you believe humans cannot change over time and adopt other traits?
Paleo-psychology is pseudoscience did you know that?

>>3341707
>Asian countries and Muslim countries have very low rates of out of wedlock pregnancies

Islam actually works, who would know. Catholicism doesn't it seems, latin america is very sexualized yet people still go to church and pray. Only the protestants (mostly evangelicals) don't do that but they tend to be hyper sluts who got tired of their lifestyle so they even the statistics.

>30's 40's

I used to have a sex education book from the 30's, it had lots of things and even drawings of men and women having sex. I don't have it right now but it was a thing. Read more. Of course this wasn't widespread and wasn't part of the school curricula.
>>3341715
I know that's why I said that.
>spreads a very libertine
People want to fuck all day, the only way to reduce unwanted pregnancy is sexual education and sports (since you got things to do you don't have sex that often). Sexual abstinence based ed is not a solution.

>>3341724
Who are you quoting?

>>3341692
Traditional values are good for individuals and society. Eventually people will rediscover this and find out that Greco-Roman philosophers were actually wiser than... Marcuse...

If /pol/ is the only entity defending traditional morals, guess who will be strengthened when people find they were right all along on this issue?

>>3341683
Oh yeah they do. As I showed you an example how a chart depends on how the person feels at the moment to a certain degree.
>any choice a woman ever makes is good
So you agree woman should have the choice if they want to engage casual sex or not?
>No, I said that
And as history demonstrates, oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs happened when those "values" were active.
>meta analysis
Which doesn't criticize the basis of sex education but showed charts and a "possible" explanation of the consequences.

Go on.

>>3341734
All sterile sex is perversions even oral. Can perversions be meaningful is the real question.

>>3341739
Outside of your twitter bubble a lot more people care about Greco-Roman (or Chinese) philosophers than some literally-who boogeymen.

>>3341732
Progressive sexual education doesn't work either. What could work is a culture change.

You can't expect a country dominated culturally by Rede Globo, who tells people what they should believe to not have high promiscuity.

>>3341753
A question you're dodging, yes.

>>3340472
we are breaking cultural boundaries and norms like weve never seen before I bet in 30 - 40 years pedosexuality will be a thing

>>3341764
What's your take, the postmodern ie contemporary approach is that is just as valid as fertile sex and I don't agree. It is less than.

>>3341771
*tips tinfoil-hat*

>>3341771
This
I only support this since its a big fuck you to conservative boomers and larping nutjobs

>>3341745
>Oh yeah they do. As I showed you an example how a chart depends on how the person feels at the moment to a certain degree.

Out of curiosity, do you believe the sustained, decades long decrease in female happiness is only a statistical artifact?

>So you agree woman should have the choice if they want to engage casual sex or not?

You didn't answer my point. Is disagreeing with someone's life choice oppressing that person?

>And as history demonstrates, oppresion of choice and alienated treatment of women needs happened when those "values" were active.

What would be oppression of choice and alienated treatment?

>Which doesn't criticize the basis of sex education but showed charts and a "possible" explanation of the consequences.

It criticized the Sexual Revolution.

>>3341771
If you were actually paying attention you'd notice it has been regressing hard. Rape will be legalized first.

>>3341757
Most people don't even know what a Plotinus is. And Marcuse is very influential on society.

>>3341788
How? Homosexuality isn't that far removed. Pedophiles are just age-fluid faggots. Pederasty is Vogue among homosexualists, Brian Singer, Milo and George Takei all say it's part and parcel of real gay culture.

>>3341792
>Out of curiosity, do you believe the sustained, decades long decrease in female happiness is only a statistical artifact?
Statistical charts are basically non-rigurous, even less rigurous when it comes to "happiness".
>Is disagreeing with someone's life choice oppressing that person
That's irrelevant, as I said before they have the choice to do or not do it. If you disagree with their choices, be it. If you disagree with them being able to choose, that's the matter we were discussing over here with sexual liberation.

>oppresion of choice
Literally the fact that society had reprended and punished with many ways anytime adultery happened, or just premarital sex happened, even then the female preferences were eclipsed by the parental will, handicapping them compared to other women.
>sexual revolution
The arcticle doesn't criticize the basis of sex education as we were talking about. You criticized sex education >>3341110 but you keep talking about this chart and posting current events with ignorance.

As I said before, if you don't know anything about that and are just complaining you aren't getting laid, then this argument ends here, sorry.

>>3341811
>gay=pedophile
Nope.
>celebrities
Typical poltard "argument".

>>3341257

"Communism"

http://www.henryflynt.org/economics/premises_for_communist_economics.htm

http://www.henryflynt.org/economics/comtotal.html

"Lessons from history

Given a schematism of “political power as a class dictatorship,” it would be perfectly exemplified in practice if

a revolution that transferred sovereignty from one class to another were made by a hegemonic insurgency fighting the established regime with a dedicated insurgent army.

But when we consider historic revolutions, matters are not this neat. The American and French revolutions advanced the interests of the bourgeoisie under the slogan of the equality of all men.

In fact, it is possible to argue that the net result of the American revolution was to institute a bourgeois sovereignty under the cloak of a revolution in political form. The revolutions depicted themselves as revolutions in political form. The French revolution did not have a hegemonic insurgency or a dedicated insurgent army.

We spell all this out in detail in an appendix.

What the American and French revolutions created (as opposed to transmitted) was entirely political. As we say at the end of the appendix, in America, substantial men were divided between capitalists and slaveowners. The feudal estates were back in Britain. The Constitution was a compromise between capitalists and slaveowners; the 1776 revolution would not end slavery. The Revolution did not create an economic system.

The French case saw sovereignty pass to an economic class that had not held sovereignty before. But the revolution did not create that class or its economic activity. It was rather a matter of the class appropriating real sovereignty to itself.

Thus, the eighteenth-century revolutions did not create any mode of economic activity, although they certainly enabled it to burgeon."

>>3341853
"But there are easily three catches.

—In reality, bourgeois economies can be depressed or desolate. Whether the society is “viable” or desolate may depend on “social measures” which obstruct the sought-for efficiencies.

—Whimsical gratification may be available only to the superior competitor who has stolen everybody else’s lunch (the plutocrat).

—There is a side of life, of human possibility, which is not available even to the superior earner, because the mercenary imperative extinguishes it. An “authentic quest” is not possible to anyone in bourgeois society, except a person who drops out and agrees to be called a failure.

Once these axioms are marshalled, if one can read high-level abstractions closely and understand how they filter down to observable situations, the shape of contemporary Western society becomes predictable."

>>3341858
CONT.
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>>—There is a side of life, of human possibility, which is not available even to the superior earner, because the mercenary imperative extinguishes it. An “authentic quest” is not possible to anyone in bourgeois society, except a person who drops out and agrees to be called a failure.
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>>3341842
>Statistical charts are basically non-rigurous, even less rigurous when it comes to "happiness".

Why are they non rigorous? Charts are just a way if presenting data.

>That's irrelevant, as I said before they have the choice to do or not do it. If you disagree with their choices, be it. If you disagree with them being able to choose, that's the matter we were discussing over here with sexual liberation.

Of course it is relevant. The sexual revolution was a change of morals not a change of laws.

>Literally the fact that society had reprended and punished with many ways anytime adultery happened, or just premarital sex happened, even then the female preferences were eclipsed by the parental will, handicapping them compared to other women.

I asked you to define two terms, not to complain that adulterers were punished.

>The arcticle doesn't criticize the basis of sex education as we were talking about.

A meta analysis has shown sexual education to be useless.

>As I said before, if you don't know anything about that and are just complaining you aren't getting laid, then this argument ends here, sorry.

I'm complaining about the results of the Sexual Revolution. Why are you trying to say that I'm complaining about not getting laid.

>>3341877
>non rigurous
Because they depend in a limited population representation of a much larger group of people.
Even more non-rigurous when it comes to "happiness".
>laws
It's simple. Social revolution tried to quit the disadvantages the commom families put on women who didn't want to do what their parents wanted. Society and family relations affect people, anon. And these women have been under the constant obligation of following a social model that, didn't they obey the plans, they would get punished economically, their dependence and job applications damaged for the influence of such people...etc.
>adulterers were punished
Way to trivialize all the struggle women were living.
>useless
Nope. They have the choice now. The rest is irrelevant.
>results
Without knowing an inch of the content of the theory sex education is based on.

Go on.

>>3341844
More pedos have homosexualists background then their share of the population. They are disproportionately more likely to fiddle kids the way dindus are more likely to do nuffin.

>>3341900
Where is the link between all homosexuals being more pedos than heterosexuals.

>>3341903
>This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

Its been reproduced and other studies will rehash the gist.

>>3341893
>Because they depend in a limited population representation of a much larger group of people. Even more non-rigurous when it comes to "happiness".

Nice. After complaining about charts you are complaining about sampling. This does not make you a critical thinker. This just makes you someone who is completely ignorant of statistics.

>It's simple. Social revolution tried to quit the disadvantages the commom families put on women who didn't want to do what their parents wanted. Society and family relations affect people, anon. And these women have been under the constant obligation of following a social model that, didn't they obey the plans, they would get punished economically, their dependence and job applications damaged for the influence of such people...etc.

You don't even know about the history of the Sexual Revolution you are defending.

>Nope. They have the choice now. The rest is irrelevant.
What in the hell this has to do with my point that sexual education was shown to not work on its intended purposes?

>>3341938
I didn't ask you if pedophiles are x. I asked you to give me the lonk between homosexuals and pedophiles.

I'll give you correlation example you would understand. There are more non black criminal people in USA, does it mean non black people commit more crime than black people?

>>3341298
>they basically teach "have sex, as long as it is consensual and safe
Could you cite an example of this?

>>3341943
>charts and samplings have no relation in this matter
Except they do.
>history of sexual revolution
All that I mentioned was commom. After sexual revolution it decreased over time.
>purposes
The purposes were that women had choice.

Way to go, go on.

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>>3340991
Explain this then

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>>3341542
Because if birth control you moron, the sexual perversion still continues m8.
>Dude just fuck whoever you want, if you catch something and strain our already over bloated and failing medical infrastructure then fuck it
>Lmao

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>>3341257
>>3341134
>>3340991

>>3341542

Mostly because of things unrelated to sex education.

1. A kid, in America, costs much more to raise over its childhood (0 - 18) than a century ago.
2. Cheap availability of abortion and birth control pill
3. The haremization of society which has many factors playing into it. Pretty much all the girls get fucked by the same minority (as in numerical, not racial) of men (who presumably demand protection from knocking up a chick).

Sex education doesn't work because "education", as in the Prussian style classroom, does not negate the immense influence of peers, who probably watch degenerate shit and listen to degenerate shit. Instead, teens use it as an example to boast and heckle.

It's like drug education. I didn't know what a crack pipe was until I watched a DARE cartoon, featuring a stupid junkie guy in a bunny suit. But it's even worse now because teens have access to porn, the "cool type of sex".

>>3341983
>Sex education doesn't work because "education", as in the Prussian style classroom, does not negate the immense influence of peers, who probably watch degenerate shit and listen to degenerate shit. Instead, teens use it as an example to boast and heckle.

Yes. Teen Vogue, a magazine for girls, recently had an article normalizing anal sex.

>>3342024
>Teen Vogue, a magazine for girls, recently had an article normalizing anal sex.

I can envision a strategy where some slut gets her ass reamed for years and then she finds a beta to "give her virginity" to. Obviously slurping up semen and shitting cum farts don't count as having sex. Obviously.

>>3342024
Wasn't anal sex normal since the beginning of western civilization?

>>3342046
owo

>>3340664
why are u samefagging

>>3342064
t. subhuman

sometimes I have forgotten why the earth should be destroyed...

>>3342086
For the poltards infestating this board? I think that's a bit too harsh...

>>3342092

the OP image naturally

>>3342093
If you don't want poltards to post such images, why don't you keep insisting though?

What exactly is the problem with people knowing how to have sex in a safe way? Why would knowledge of sex be a bad thing? You should be more concerned with teaching decent values as well. Moderation, for example. Knowledge won't make you 'degenerate', poor ethics will.

>>3342093
What's wrong about it? Better than having kids think they'll get pregnant from blowjobs.

>>3341981
Leftypol is completely right though, you guys do ruin every board. At least I barely see leftypol screaming their idealogies here quite unlike you guys. Get off this board right now.

>>3342128
>think they'll get pregnant from blowjobs

Redditors earnestly believe that kids can't get an accurate of understanding of sex and its procreative effects before even reaching puberty with only the internet nowadays.

You've become the party pleading for "thinking about the children"

>>3342128

kids think you get pregnant by kissing

>>3342127
They don't teach anything, they just embarrass themselves and everyone else in the room. That said I don't think it's causes any problems beyond that.

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>the goal of sex ed is to reduce premature and accidental pregnancies
>let's teach kids about the existence of homosexuality, transgenderism, and a good many of things that don't pertain to copulation at all

>>3342186
They're doing well on the "reduce premature and accidental pregnancies" bit, and are now adding on "reduce teen suicides and bullying of teens with non-normal sexual identities".

>>3342178

nah, when I was a kid I knew roughly what sex was and that sex is how children are made. I did however think that you would get a kid every time you had sex so my parents had done it twice.

>>3342186
>let's teach kids about the existence of homosexuality, transgenderism, and a good many of things that don't pertain to copulation at all
my sex ed did not have this. the closest to homosexuality in our sex ed was having to see a bunch of pictures of dicks with STD's

>>3341468
Or I can just sit back and enjoy your socialist state collapse over and over and over again, with you not realizing that it is the system itself that is flawed so you'll jau continuously spout "muh not real communism" and die a broken man

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>>3342193
>"reduce teen suicides and bullying of teens with non-normal sexual identities"

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for the formet affirmation, but I'd like a source of this. I don't concieve of a school turning kids who are natural bullies away from harassing others on any grounds.

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>>3342193
>There are actually people like this that browse this website
Maybe a place like tumblr would be more your speed

A vast decrease in teenage pregnancy, for one thing.

>>3341972
Google tells me that this is a tiny militia (20 people) who tried to join the war against ISIS. Completely unrelated to Adorno.

>>3341692
>the board full of useless NEETS continually blaming women for their misfortune because they can't summon up the courage to talk to a girl, who fap to hentai and traps and worship the nazis, the biggest degenerates in world history, are the ones who want to defend "common decency"
/pol/ is nothing but degenracy

>>3342193
>>3342238
Sexual education doesn't work in reducing teenage pregnancies.

>>3342260
You are looking at it the wrong way.
If the "useless NEETs who masturbate to anime" are the last line of defense in favor of traditional values, how degenerate the rest of the world is?

>>3342244
So, this bunch of literal fags are not marxists?

>>3342289
They're anarchists, so not Marxist but still far-left. I can at least appreciate them fighting ISIS.

>>3342283
>Implying internet warriors are in the lines of anything but their insulin queue

If stormfags were your last hope... lol

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>>3340472
lol

>>3342283
>are the last line of defense in favor of traditional values
This is the dumbest thing I've read today. There's thousands of other, smarter, more qualified people defending whatever things you probably consider "traditional values". For example, the entire conservative portion of the United States, which makes up almost all of the Republican Party and a majority of the Democrat Party.

You have such a severe savior complex that you've convinced yourself a bunch of shitposting cryptofascists are the sole bulwark against the forces of evil.

>>3342312
Go to your facebook and say you oppose sex outside of marriage and gay marriage. Then, after a while tell me the results.

>>3342323
I don't have a facebook, because unlike you I'm not a normalfag driven insane by their own insecurities.

>>3342271
Okay. We'll just ignore the directly correlated data between sexual education and access to condoms and teenage pregnancy across the developed world. The average age of pregnancy is getting older and older for no reason at all.

>>3342312
>conservatives
>conserving anything
lmao

>>3342381
See the meta analysis >>3341298
Sexual education doesn't work.

JUST fuck my culture up

>>3340472
Fatherless children, rampant STDs, pedophilia normalization, homosexuality paraded through Main Street, and the utter degradation of women via the slaughter of tens of millions of their unborn children.

>>3342460
An interesting paper, but not entirely convincing seeing as the authors conclusion is 'give them more condoms'. If anything, this seems to be critical of schools not taking a direct enough role in aggressively pushing birth control on their students.

>>3342491
Culture is progressing, like it or not.

>>3342511
>An interesting paper, but not entirely convincing

This is a Cochrane Foundation meta analysis. This is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to scientific knowledge.

>seeing as the authors conclusion is 'give them more condoms'. If anything, this seems to be critical of schools not taking a direct enough role in aggressively pushing birth control on their students.

I think the conclusion was weak, but the data is good and it shows that sexual education does not work in reducing pregnancy or STDs.

>>3342513
>Culture is progressing, like it or not.

Progressing is not the correct word. That would imply culture always change for the better.

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>>3342312
>For example, the entire conservative portion of the United States, which makes up almost all of the Republican Party and a majority of the Democrat Party.

>>3342559
Oh yeah, that's what I meant.

>>3342582
Yes, the correct would be to say that culture always changes. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.

I don't think the current hedonistic norms will last forever.

>>3342593
>lasting forever
Still better than the predecessor values.

Jeez. You leftynigs have the whole other world to agree with each other. Can you debate for a sec before calling everyone a nazi?
I am against this shit from a leftist, economic point of view without appealing to 'muh 50's wonderland'.
Lets start. My points.
Sexual revolution destroyed traditonal homes, blurred gender roles and fucked up the job market, fucking up the average worker in the process.
Sex ed enforced in first world countries and having effects like an declining population unable to support the amount of old people while 3rd world countries have populations going through the roof is idiotic and brings major imbalance in societies
Gay lgbt bbq rights activists and all distract the left from actual problems of wealth inequality, poverty and elitism in our countries.
Discuss

>>3342619
Sexual Revolution didn't destroy job markets, capitalism just took advantage of it to do so.

Declining population is a huge issue with no clear cause/answer outside meme stuff like turning the clock back to the 50s.

Totally agree about #3, bunch of bullshit.

>>3342619
The third one is actually right. The rest is poltard delusion.

>>3342164
>/pol/ ruins every board
>but /leftypol/ is okey no criticize comrade :))))

fuck off leftypol, you're fooling nobody
You're both cancer upon /his/

>>3341811
>>3341903
>>3341938
>>3341956
Pederasty is the traditional manner in which homosexuality is expressed. Basically every gay man you've ever heard of throughout history has been attracted to boys around 10-15. The meme of love between adult men as equals only dates back about 50-60 years. It was invented to make gay rights seem more respectable to the public. Same with anal sex, actually. Until recently, it had no particular association with homosexuality, but it was shilled to make gay sex (traditionally involving mutual masturbation, oral, and thrusting between the legs) seem less foreign to penetration-obsessed heterosexuals. It's actually a common historical theme for people to say "yes, of course we love young boys, who wouldn't? But over the river there, those faggots fuck kids in the ass."

>>3342618
>Sexual Revolution didn't destroy job markets, capitalism just took advantage of it to do so.
how did you arrive at this conclusion

>>3342659
>>3342635

>>3342618
>Dude, a stable family?
>Fuck that, I want to die out within a generation and extinguish my entire bloodline
>Woah bro so edgy and radical

>>3342652
Delusion after delusion...

>>3342668
>oppresing women
>better than giving them choice
It's pretty obvious.

>>3342669
Go on, prove me wrong.

>>3342635
>capitalism just took advantage of it to do so.
What did you expect it to do? Its the economic theory that says 'see that, son? You can make a profit out of it'. When half the population was at home tending to their bussiness and suddenly the workers doubled of course the corps would take advantage of the limited positions by blackmailing workers into overqualifyining and working for scraps, two feats of the current job market
>no clear cause
Again. If people spend their entire 20's-30's, their most fertile years, studying all day for degrees that will get them nowhere (im not talking just for memes like gender studies. Organic Chemistry major here and its hell. All the other stem people i know have the same issue) while having meaningless day to day relationships and fucking around with absolute disgust to the idea of kids its expected that the population would drop.

>>3342659
I'm not sure whats so complicated about it. Wages are depressed to as low as capitalism can get them, supply and demand among other standard robbery. When your wage has to support two kids and your wife, you fight for it. Dual income families have had their wages depressed pretty severely compared to the buying power two men would have had in the 50s. Why would I blame women when I can just uproot the actual problem taking advantage of their entry into the work force to depress wages?

>>3342673
>Giving women a fullfilling relationship, children and happy family life that they agree on is literally rape

>>3342683
>making women marry whoever the family wants
>the woman is forever jailed inside home
>the woman has no choice but bear with the one she doesn't actually want until she dies
>anything she does opposing this she gets punished socially, economically and the people involved make her life a living hell for the rest of her life
Yep.

>>3342674
That's not how it works over here. You have to prove your delusions first, then we can argue.

>>3342675
I didn't mean it in the sense it didn't have clear contributing factors, but theres so many no one cause is 'the cause'. Obviously, unreasonable education standards in NA is part of it. Hedonistic consumerist culture contributes. The fact that some people just don't want kids and don't need them to support their old age helps. In the end, having a kid is a huge financial negative over your entire life that'll never pay itself back in hard cash. Some of this is capitalist exploration and some of it is just fucked up modern culture. But the causes are not simple, and impossible to entirely wrap up in 'sex ed'.

>>3342700
I'm afraid you don't understand the way burden of proof works. You didn't challenge the factuality of my statements, you just made a claim that I am deluded. Now it's on you to back up your claims.

>>3342694
Dude. You need to stop watching all that tv. It wasnt slavery, you know?
>making women marry whoever the family wants
Families simply set up dates that sometimes worked, sometimes not
>the woman is forever jailed inside home
Yeah, there are swingin' 50's chrome chains in museums to back you up, oh wait, that wasnt nearly the case
>the woman has no choice but bear with the one she doesn't actually want until she dies
Or you know, get a divorce? My grandma did it
>anything she does opposing this she gets punished socially, economically and the people involved make her life a living hell for the rest of her life
Jeez. Life isnt your bdsm fantasy, man.

>>3342618
The current norms are awful, some of the worse ever.

Hedonism is not something that leads to a happy, fulfilling life. It is better to be chaste without understanding why than it is to be promiscuous.

The best, when it comes to morals is Stoicism.

>>3342736
>Oh yeah, just go and marry the first member of the opposite sex you see
>You can always just get a divorce if things go poorly
Wew lad

>>3342707
>But the causes are not simple, and impossible to entirely wrap up in 'sex ed'
You are right. The premise of the thread is kinda off, should have been the sexual revolution.
SR was a leftist meme gone wrong by capitalism, kinda like Che shirts.
The hippies pushed it and once capitalism saw a profit to be made they pushed it to the end. Its no marxist conspirancy or some shit. Theres just profit in it so they push it.
I dunno but i think we are reaching a singularity. There is simply so much people can take. To get a job you need 6+ years of school and owe your ass if you are murican or leech from your parents for food if you are a yuropoor. And Work refuses them to make children, one of their most primal instincts.
I hope people just snap one day. Its really, really sad

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>>3340472
>lactatia

>>3342736
>slavery
The thing is that the commom case had 2 or 3 events I mentioned at the same time.

The point is that the society limited women's choices. Of course not marrying was looked down.

I think you need to ask women what happened instead of talking about tv and stuff.

>>3342742
The thing is that these people put all the studies and propositions in a single packet called "cultural marxism", the typical tinfoil-hat wordplay. Yet all of those topics and each "problem" they get buttblasted about is actually mentioned in some books about gender ideology, others are propositions without including promiscuity, etc...

The thing is that women have choice without most past social repercusions. That was the goal, goal accomplished.

>>3342754
Again, these 'dates' didnt result in marriages 100%. You talk like couples first saw each other in the chapels.
Also, men had to adhere by this too as well as women so pulling up ye olde victim card doesnt really work.

>>3340664
This

>>3342767
Also this >>3342772
Goes to you too but i didnt see your post in time.
Also, source is relatives. Thought thats a bad and a good thing. Good cause its first hand opinions from people who lived this period and bad cause i have a limited supply of people to ask so it could be worse for others, i dunno

>>3341415
>Actually thinking /pol/ is the source of this Reddit rot
Lmao /GoT/ generals and the Fappening would like to have a word with you. Also why would the infamous Nazi board attract Redditards? It seems to me that underages would avoid 4chan specifically because of that, as they don't want their parents finding out they associate with fascists that jerk off to Hentai

>>3340472
Aren't teen pregnancies on the decline? That seems like good news. Sex ed varies so much sate to state in the US though, so it's hard to talk about it as one thing.

>>3342164
>At least I barely see leftypol screaming their idealogies here quite unlike you guys.
>What is spook-posting
>What is German-hate posting

>>3341692
>>3341468
>>3340717
>Teenage pregnancy, STD transmittal, and sexual abuse among young people is declining

But have you SEEN some of the RAP VIDEOS that our CHILDREN are watching? It's absolutely VILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>3342164
>I barely see leftypol screaming their idealogies here quite unlike you guys
fuck off leftypol shill
>Get off this board right now.
why do you want an anti white want an anti white safespace?

>>3342646
>The rest is poltard delusion.
this is what brainwashed leftypol shills actually believe

>>3342758
I always find it funny modern society is basically slowly ostracizing men from it with downright harmful ideas like patriarchy theory, and thinking that's sustainable. A giant stew of unmarried and angry men is just textbook grounds for a revolution, it's the demographic western society was founded on getting rid of with monogamy. I detest the fascists over at /pol/, but I don't blame anyone for being mad about the state of affairs.

>>3342164
This.

>>3342767
>The thing is that women have choice without most past social repercusions. That was the goal, goal accomplished.

People being able to be immoral without having social repercussions is not a good goal for morals. Morals should be about helping people lead better lives. That's why the ancients considered ethics the most important area.

And promiscuity may not have many social repercussions nowadays, but it has other repercussions that make it bad, both for women or men. If you are a super hedonist who believes sexual pleasure is super important for a good life and you have sex as much as you can... you will not really find happiness. You will have tons of pleasure. But not true happiness.

And our current mores push people to believe that happiness is found on pleasure and to be promiscuous. You have the television calling people who opt to stay virgin while unmarried "weirdos".

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>>3342831

>>3342220
Fuck dude, I went to highschool in Hongcouver for 2 years and we had to take some stupid course that I forgot the name of which had a sex-ed component. We had to watch that stupid Bruce-Jenner coming out video

>>3342843
>the leftypol subhuman has no argument
not a surprise

>>3342805
>Aren't teen pregnancies on the decline? That seems like good news. Sex ed varies so much sate to state in the US though, so it's hard to talk about it as one thing.

see >>3341298
Sexual education does not work in reducing teenage pregnancies.

Other factors, such as education, lead to a reduction in teenage pregnancies.

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>>3342842
>casual sex is being immoral
>meanwhile womanizer men is tolerated more than women with lots of casual sex
Hmm...
>>3342847
>subhuman
>says the "white" """"supremacist""""

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>>3342857
>the leftypol subhuman hate the white race

why are you so brainwashed?

>>3342857
>casual sex is being immoral
On the traditional way of seeing morality, it is.

>meanwhile womanizer men is tolerated more than women with lots of casual sex
Promiscuous men are as bad as promiscuous women.

>>3342832
Look. I dont approve of it either but if you think /r9k/ will do a glorious revolution you need to take some time off the chans to get a view of the real world again.
I dont think there is a way to turn back now. Every discussion about it is turned down by immediately assuming the person talking to them is an incel idiot.
The media glorifies this way of life which is considered the norm now.
Even the most radical person cant go out and say stuff like
>You've seen gays and people who fuck around? Yeah, if you elect me we'll, like, turn them into christian good bois.
Its kind of blackpill-y but just, ride along. There are forces that cant be reckoned with at stake. Play the role society wants you to, fuck some girls/dudes and end up a miserable 40 something parent that hates his/hers wife/husband that you had to settle with because thats the best you could do in that age.

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>>3342863
>you are a leftist!
>you hate whites if you aren't a white supremacist like me
Hmm...
>>3342868
>On the traditional way of seeing morality, it is.
You said it.
>Promiscuous men are as bad as promiscuous women.
Except the social repercusions of men doing the same as women were pretty much unequal.

>>3342857
>meanwhile womanizer men is tolerated more than women with lots of casual sex
Only in modern society. Men have to actually work to get some. Women literally need to just spread their legs to the first guy they see and like.
On the contrary, in traditional societies, men who slept around were badly shunned as much as women who did the same

Teenage pregnancy has dropped dramatically.

>>3342879
>being a white supremacist is bad
why should I be an anti white cuck like you, leftypol?

>>3342879
>peruano
Nope, eurangutan subhuman.

>>3342850

>Sexual education does not work in reducing teenage pregnancies.

You have no evidence and your "source" is some christian fundamentalist bullshit. the bible belt which practices abstinence still has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the US.

Violent crime, rape, teen pregnancy rates, and STDs are all down. You are looking for a reason to be deppressed

>>3342887
You aren't getting another answer unless you are explaining all the garbage you have on your brain.
>>3342881
>On the contrary, in traditional societies, men who slept around were badly shunned as much as women who did the same
Au contraire, men who lived a bohemian life or just gained lots of money could marry later, as opposed to women who didn't even had the same economic status by themselves, and depended more with the heritage and conections with their relatives.

If you ask women from the era, you will get this answer, I wonder where do you get this info.
>>3342892
Stop shitting up every thread, then.

>>3342911
>not being an anti white cucks is "garbage you have on your brain."

why should I hate my own race, leftypol?

>>3342901
>Blaming black promscuity on christfag sex ed class

>>3342916
Why do you think I am anti-white?

>>3342917

>coming up with absolutely any excuse

>>3342922
because you're from leftypol

>>3342927
Why do you think I'm from leftypol?

>>3342930
You aren't getting another answer unless you are explaining why you are anti white

>>3342926
but blacks are on a group level more promiscuous and are more populus in "muh buy-bull" belt. Does corellation only equal causation when it advantages leftist worldviews? There are many confounding factors INCLUDING Demographics. Blacks have been sexually liberated for the long in the states and have the illegitimacy rates as bona fides.

>>3342911
You do realize what you say works on both sexes right? Separating them to give women special status is kinda cheap.
However rich you were, if you had the reputation of a pump and dump guy, no self respecting woman would marry you, because it would affect her reputation too.
Also
>Au contraire
Oh lawd, french. Im so scared now! You are clearly an enlightened individual unlike the plebeians in this Cretan cheese rounding forum

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>mfw the cowardly leftypol shill is too scarfed to tell me why he hate white people

>>3342931
So you refrain to explain your accusations but demand me to explain them?
>>3342939
>this entire part
>Oh lawd, french. Im so scared now! You are clearly an enlightened individual unlike the plebeians in this Cretan cheese rounding forum
Are you, for a chance, USian?
>You do realize what you say works on both sexes right? Separating them to give women special status is kinda cheap.
However rich you were, if you had the reputation of a pump and dump guy, no self respecting woman would marry you, because it would affect her reputation too.
Then I think we disagree with this part. My granma had a brother that had traveled to Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina, Chile, Mexico...etc, he had lots of bastard sons, it was a simple thing that the guy married a medium class woman and had lots of children then settled with her. Meanwhile a woman couldn't do the same thing, they received constant social pressure accusing her about such things and even having disadvantages with her potential jobs, relations, even their own families.

>>3342958
you're the one who wants to kill white people, you need to explain yourself

>>3342962
Nobody wants to kill white people lad, contain the paranoia.

>>3342969
leftypol does, and you're leftypol

>>3340472
To show how badly you need islam

>>3342958
Im sorry your uncle was a manwhore, anon.
Meanwhile, my gramps bff was practically unmarkettable after knocking a woman up by accident, and this coming out to the public for people to gossip.
Look. Personal accounts like mine and yours take us nowhere. There were a lot of different cases just as they are now, that have a lot of different factors than just what you think sex roles were.
Also, im not murican but i assume you are, or you wouldnt have to brag for knowing an expression or two in french

>>3342901
>You have no evidence and your "source" is some christian fundamentalist bullshit. the bible belt which practices abstinence still has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the US.

The source of that website was a Cochrane Fundation meta analysis, you ignorant fucktard. Cochrane Fundation meta analysis are pretty much the pinnacle of scientific knowledge in the world.
Sexual education does not work.

Why are you feminists so fucking ignorant and so fucking arrogant?

>>3342911
>Au contraire, men who lived a bohemian life or just gained lots of money could marry later, as opposed to women who didn't even had the same economic status by themselves, and depended more with the heritage and conections with their relatives.

Promiscuous men were considered effeminate and weak, since being promiscuous means you let your irrational side conquer your rational side.

>>3342981
>manwhore
Which proves right, the social difference of social treatment he got comparing it with women.
>brag
I thought it was actually well known, movies and cartoons mentioned that phrase sometimes, where are you form? I'm not american.
>>3342987
Irrelevant as their treatment differed a lot to women. My uncle was a boxer. Nothing effeminate about him.

ITT: Virgins

lmao

>>3342992
>Irrelevant as their treatment differed a lot to women. My uncle was a boxer. Nothing effeminate about him.

Promiscuous men were considered as bad as promiscuous women, if not worse.

Manliness has nothing to do with being a boxer. Manliness is about being rational. Your uncle would be considered as effeminate as some guy dancing on a pink tutu in a gay pride parade.

>>3342996
>ITT: Virgins
Only a whore uses virgin as an insult.

>>3343007
>Promiscuous men were considered as bad as promiscuous women, if not worse.
I disagree.
>Manliness has nothing to do with being a boxer. Manliness is about being rational. Your uncle would be considered as effeminate as some guy dancing on a pink tutu in a gay pride parade.
Manliness is different than responsibility. I think the cultures are different.

>>3343009
we are not women, virgin

>>3342992
>Which proves right, the social difference of social treatment he got comparing it with women.
Your unca was just lucky to find someone who accepted him/ didnt know.
It wasnt the phrase that struck me the wrong way, im just used to smug leftists spilling their pseudo intellectual spaghetti everywhere.
Im from german colony 4719642 a.k.a Greece.
Also >>3343007
Im kinda interested in what you say. Would a Promiscuous hetero man be considered weak and effeminate too?

>>3343039
>Your unca was just lucky to find someone who accepted him/ didnt know.
He actually didn't have that much struggle. He had money and a pleasantly enterprising personality.
And her wife knew about their bastard sons all over the subcontinent.

I think there was a difference, but it changed on some class status and families though, now that you mention it.

>>3343039
>Im kinda interested in what you say. Would a Promiscuous hetero man be considered weak and effeminate too?

Yes.
At least in the Ancient era. Being a hedonist was considered weak.

>>3343034
>we

you sound ill tho

>>3342996
Exquisite post. The only one worth reading in this whole thread

>>3342879
>that screenshot
if this is one of those guaranteed replies kind of thing where is the gay porn tab

>>3342810
I doubt the sort of madness in the OP is responsible for these positive changes. Contraceptive tech and the internet are huge influences. The beginnings of feminism and sex ed. But just looking at the current frontiers - this is new "degeneracy". Not the stuff that got us here.

Besides, don't you think a society that manages lower pregnancy rates WHILE promoting decency would be better off?

>>3342879
Is gunbound back on the rise? This is the fourth time i've seen a post like this after getting back into it.
And I got back into it after being reminded on 4chan some time ago.

>>3342885
Not due to this shit it hasn't.

>>3341692
explain to me how sex education is "decadence and moral decline" telling teens how to have safe sex measurably reduces teen pregnancy rates

>>3344369
>rise
There are always players, but there aren't that many.

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>teens can figure out smartphone
>teens can't figure out how to put on fucking condom

Libtard logic

>>3344512
That's because teens were raised using smartphones practically from birth. If we did the same thing with sex, maybe they'd be more competent.

>>3344522

>teach grade schoolers about sex

Careful, you're drifting into otaku territory

>>3344533
>teach grade schoolers about sex
Hah!

No, of course not. I'm talking about letting grade schoolers practice sex.

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>>3341501
>>3341698

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if the republican school taught sex, people would not discover sexual empowerment in the woods

The West unironically deserves every 1.2 birth rate and immigrant it gets.

>>3342901
only liberals claim that teen pregnancies are bad

>>3341340
Stable relationship with frequent sex. But I only masturbated a couple of times a month while I was single so take my advice with a pinch of salt.

>>3342996
Non-virgin detected

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>>3342694
Monogamy is a spook

>>3340671
>>3340664
Sooo edgy! What's ur name?? :)