thread talking about Japanese indigenous people "Ainu"

>>3340375
looks like a mixed race with white people

>>3340375
What's there to discuss about? Do Japanese people even give asingle fuck about Okinawans or "Ainu"?

Do they have any specific rights as a result of their cultural heritage? Like the casino thing among native Americans or herding reindeer among sami people.

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>>3340375
Caucasian were raped by Japanese monkeys

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>>3340399
>They Wuz Caucasian and shiet.

Ainu were austroloid brainlet.

>>3340389
The Japanese are a very oppressive people. The Ainu would have no specific rights.

>>3340381
>>3340399
Ainus are pale abbos

>>3340389
There is no such thing.
Rather, they are abused by the Japanese government.
They got mixed with the Japanese monkey and the unique culture was lost.

>>3340406
Abbos are much older then the Jomon, ancestor of the Emishi, ancestors of the Ainu.

Ainus are basically Jomon people that were driven off into the North when Proto Korean and Chinese settlement came in.

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>>3340404

Ainus are almost the same as japs but with much more inbreeding and a little more eastern siberian ancestry.

>>3340423
>Hairy arms
>absolute fucking meme t shirt.
>shaved moustache.

Goddamn. Honestly her appearance wouldn't be as half bad if not for the retarded shiet.

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>>3340404
Are they close to the natives of Aussie?

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>>3340433
more natives of Taiwan. Papuans are noongas real brothers

>>3340423
i want passionate f**k while discussions about indigenous peoples problem

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>>3340423
The old Ainu had make-up like a monster.
It seems like it will not be raped by Japs

>>3340375
I have heard that they have the same genes as Tibetans

>>3340496
same major patrilineage (Y-haplo D) and almost the same otherwise

>>3340473
>brought a bear cub and now my mum needs to breastfeed it

LOCK ME UP

>>3340473

wtf i hate girls now?

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>>3340384
Probably not. My friend's family comes from Okinawa but she never appeared to have "Ryukyuan Identity" or something like that. She says that they came from Okinawa just like an American says his family comes from Florida. Her father is also a turbo Japnazi.
She says her parents speak Japanese at home and that she learnt some phrases to speak with her grandparents, but obviously what they speak is some kind of Ryukyuan language. She didn't even know Ryukyuans were different from nips until I told her.

So, no, they don't give a sod about the other folk and I imagine it's the same with Ainu. It seems the Japanese succesfully erased these people's heritage. [spoiler] It's kind of sad, really T.T [/spoiler]

Also, has anyone heard about Shakushain? Pic related is a GT I got from the archive.

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>>3340375
I have been to Japan, but there was only plain face ugliness.
Where do i go in Japan, can i meet like this?

>>3340589
Rip. I actually liked reading about the little flairs of those seperate cultures.

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>>3340616
It 's easy, just go to the anime world.
Have you ever been there?
There are plenty of beautiful girls:D

>>3340430

Not him but i think she's really beautiful

this topic that is likely to go crazy when Japan's alternative right wing.
They seem to want to declare that there is no Ainu

>>3340589
Half Oki here, my mom never taught me hogen, but from listening to her speak it with family, and from what my older brother tells me, its relationship to Japanese is similar to that of English and Old English. Your friend is why we get looked down on by full Nips and Okis btw, she should be forcing her parents to try and actually teach her about her culture, I've been doing that for the last couple years, it's been interesting.

>>3340711
science fears the samurai?

>>3340724
There's clearly a relationship between these languages. They're a part of the same family, after all.

>she should be forcing her parents to teach her about her culture
That's where the problem lies, friendo. Her relatives don't see themselves as Okinawans, but rather as Japanese that speak a different language. I already told her to do that but she's the laziest person alive. I guess it doesn't matter for her. She doesn't see herself as Japanese or Okinawan, but as a [MY COUNTRY]-an anyways.

>>3340375
Top left looks like Pinoys

>>3340423
>Che
Fucking cringe

>>3340430
>>Shaved moustache
There's nothing that indicates so in that picture.

>>3340404
>Hairy legs
Whiteness confirmed

>>3340375
>having no knowledge of their ancestry.
I was talking to this person I know who grew up in Hokkaido and likes to think she is pretty smart. When I asked her about the Ainu, she was who, what, no that's not true, never heard of it.

>>3342765
Tbf she's probably pretty smart, it's just Japanese nationalistic autistic propaganda means everyone must be the same, and there's no way Japanese people can be genetically or culturally distinct from one another no matter what actual history says

>>3342778

Yeah some Ainu lives matter social movement would really improve this rotten, homogenous society.
*happy merchant face*

>>3342796
>facts are jewish
Lel, that's exactly why the Nazis weren't able to get the bomb
back to /pol/ nigger.

>>3342778
Yeah well, at first I just thought it was some dodgy history book that I'd read when I first mentioned it to her but have since seen other references to it. So now I am just assuming that it is ignorance. Not ignorance on her part but ignorance based on her just never, ever having learned about it. She would of gone through her entire school education, again in Hokkaido, and never heard a single reference to it through the Japanese education system nor through community based cultural events etc.
Thank god for western historians sticking their noses into places where they dont belong in order to avoid cultural cleansings.
I know this other Japanese person at the moment, I might ask her if she has ever heard of them, even though she is from Nagoya and would be less likely to know. But still educated in Japan though more recently. So might be able to see if their education system has changed over the years. We shall see.

>>3342808

Factually Ainus are basically completely assimilated both culturally and genetically. Another factoid: dividing the Japanese society along the borders of guilt ridden, retro active identity politics would do it no good.
Keep that splendid practice to your American wonderland.

They look like japs mixed with sea niggers

Why can they grow a beard while normal Japanese can't?

>>3342866
>acknowledging historical fact is akin to divisive identity politics
2 nukes weren't enough hirohito or autistic 4th gen Jap

>>3342913

Fuck, forgive me for addressing the implications and undertones of your post, Shelly.

>>3342933
>implying criticism of autism tier Japanese nationalism that denies facts is an attack of all nationalism
>I can't into nuance
Pick two

basically they are big nose, hairy and faint.
looks like caucasian,Also looks like nigger.

>>3342904
Ainus are of Caucasian race.

>>3340448
Ami have ancient australoid Gene found in Highland Papua New Guinea

>>3344358
Nope.

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>>3344322
yeah,i think so too

>>3342778
>>3342826
honestly the nips have pretty much obliterated any distinct Ainu culture so they pretty much warped reality to match their larping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_language
>only about ten native speakers left
>all over the age of 50
They also got caught up in WW2s after math with the Ainu in the Kurils and Sakhalin getting deported

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it is certain that is some kind of mixed race

>>3344322
Cuckasians aren't the unique ones to grow beards did you know?

>>3344378
looks like Pinoy

>>3344408
Fucking everything looks like pinoy because they're a bunch of mongrel rape babies.

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Are they fuck'n nigger?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronislaw_Pilsudski

>the older brother of the Polish interwar dictator was an Ainu researcher
>married an Ainu woman and had kids
>the only descendants of the Pilsudski family live in Japan

kek tbqh

>>3344456
AINU'D

>>3340589

My aunt is Okinawan, and from what I remember she doesn't like being called Japanese.

>>3340616
Hokkaido mostly I believe.

>>3344456
>>the only descendants of the Pilsudski family live in Japan

Male line descendants maybe, Józef Piłsudski had a couple of daughters and their descendants are around (all were either architects or psychiatrists last time I checked).

>>3340423
>>3344378

Ainu culture or ethnicity is just larping at this point of time. Sorry folks.

are the matagi japonicized ainu or japanese influenced by ainu culture

>>3340375
Ainu have more Jomon mixture than regular Japanese do. The Jomon era was when Japan was inhabited by Hunter Gatherers prior to agriculture. brought by the Yamato Japanese.

>tfw no jomon or ainu gf

>>3340423
>che
into the gas chamber

Why aren't there any jomon or ainu javs

>>3347225
14,000 years of history in Japan and all you want to know about the Ainu is whether their women fuck on camera?

Me too

>>3340430
>>3340691
She's an old hag

>>3344363
That's a black and white photo, on the dark side.
Of course it says 'black and white'

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>>3344469
Yep, there are exceptions, of course. Does your aunt still live in Japan? I think that for Ryukyuans still in Japanese lands the sentiment of belonging to another culture is still strong, because the conquest of Ryukyu was not long ago.

I heard something about a separatist movement from the Ryukyuan islands but I'd really like to know if it has popularity there (nip anons help me). 「Pic related」

>>3347790
The vast majority of the public don't care about independence but the base issue there is bringing more attention to it.

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>>3340375
>but unofficially is estimated at 200,000 due to many Ainu having been completely assimilated into Japanese society and, as a result, having no knowledge of their ancestry.
Then they're not Ainu

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I'll post some Ainus

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>>3349574

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>>3349577

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>>3349583

>>3342778
I don't know, anon: I had asked my fiancee (who is from Hakodate) about Ainu related stuff after discovering the manga "Golden Kamuy", and she told me they did learn about then. Not extensively or anything, but they did visit a museum about Ainu culture with school. But maybe that was specific of her school or more of a personal initiative from her teacher.

I don't know if she identifies with them at all, though, though she does like their art, especially the motifs. I'll have to ask her.

>>3347225
IIRC, most of their contact was with Japan (to whom they sold animal skins). After Russia annexed Kurils, they fled to their relatives in Japan.

If you look at the population today, it's mostly Ukrainians or someshit like that. All settlers.
Kind of sucks that their homeland also happens to be the only source of some of the rarest minerals on Earth extremely important in the production of military shit. Russia is never going to give that shit back.

>>3349585
i want to see young ainus

>>3350383
Look at >>3340375

>>3350397
more please?

>>3350400
I am also looking for it on the google, but the young Ainu's image is few for some reason.
Children's images are more fewer.

>>3344378
>>3344396
>>3344447
>>3344363
>Hispanic
>race

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>>3350383
There aren't many pics of young ainus, but I will post some

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>>3351408

>>3340375
You need to understand Japanese population data here, they don't give a shit about ethnicity (officially), if you are born in Japan you are Japanese, it's how they keep up the whole homogeneous country meme into the modern day

>>3340423
>those yellow teeth
Jesus christ

>>3351415
but that's not really true anon, you're acting as if Japan is obfuscating it's homogeneity via statistics

It's over 95% ethnic Japanese anyway you slice the cake

>>3342826

You could say the same for American education is also super shit, we just learn wether that country was evil or good and if we won. Then they're like white people were bad then now were ok, ok class dismissed.

>>3351449
>you're acting as if Japan is obfuscating it's homogeneity via statistics
It is, officially anyone born in Japan is Japanese regardless of skin color or any other stupid meme shit, it's a civic nationalists wet dream

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>>3351458
>>3351415
You're full of shit, Japan is under strict jus sanguinis, and doesn't even accept dual citizenship. You can be born in the middle of the imperial palace, if one of your parent isn't Japanese, you're not Japanese. And if one of your parent is Japanese but the other isn't, you have to choose between the two nationality at adulthood.

>>3351419
Why are Americans so freaked out about yellow teeth? It's perfectly natural for people to have slightly yellow tint.

>>3352106
Slightly yellow, sure, but not cheese colored like hers. To get that, she has to be a smoker or barely take care of her teeth.

>>3340406
why? whats wrong with them?

are they finno-ugrics or turkish?

>>3352106
Why don't you non-Americans take care of your fucking teeth?

>>3352286
You're not supposed to bleach your teeth to pearly white, it's completely unnatural as well as actually damaging.

>>3352298
You don't need to bleach them to have white teeth, man. I just brush mine everyday and have a nice white.

>>3344358
Don't tell me nope pleb

It's alleles but it's mentioned in the new book Early Exchange between Africa and the Wider Indian Ocean World which states that it's a South to North migration.

>Certain alleles are common to both the Ami of Taiwan and population groups in the PNG Highlands and Australia (ibid: 235, 242)

>>3344362
>>3352944
This adds Credence to the belief by Taiwanese Aboriginals that the island was inhabited by farming Negritos before their arrival.

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>>3340375
There is a fatal mistake in this image.
The lower left is not Ainu .
It is a Japanese singer from Osaka , Ken Hirai.

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>Depending on the classification system used, Ainu could be considered a moribund language or a critically endangered language. As of 2016, Ethnologue lists Ainu as class 8b: "nearly extinct." It has been endangered since before the 1960s. Most of the approximately 15,000 ethnic Ainu in Japan speak only Japanese. During the 1980s, in the town of Nibutani (part of Biratori, Hokkaido), where many of the remaining native speakers live, there were 100 speakers, of whom only fifteen used the language every day. Today, there are only around ten native speakers remaining, all of whom are at least 80 years old. There are also some semi-speakers who are at least 60 years old.

Why must the fate be so cruel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJhRtXq30Wk

>>3353699
fucking depressing how many languages are dying

>>3347790
There's a bit of a conspiracy theory that a lot of the independence movement folks are Chinese plants because they specifically use old Chinese terms for Okinawa, but it might just be the age old "call them Koreans or Chinese" tactic.

https://youtu.be/K_EBZC0TYLA
They have beautiful music

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>>3353160
Yeah, this is real Ainu, Tsuyoshi Ukaji. He is an actor. Young Ukaji was really handsome. Today he is still a nice guy.
宇梶100回倒れた話題腹筋CM https://youtu.be/PpBrhiQYG0w

>>3347790
I'm not sure where she lives thes days since she divorced my uncle long ago (not that I blame her, she put up with him much longer than I would've). I should note that techically she's my great aunt, so she's in her late 70s. He came back home with her after Korea I think.

>>3354324
I doubt it. I know it was on Anthony Bourdain's show of all things, but it's not a lie in the Okinawa episode when the Okinawans he was talking to would rather have the marines around than what they would be replaced with, Chinese tourists. And that's even after all the shit marines have done there.

>>3354834

Chinese tourists are the new "ugly Americans", I don't blame them.

>>3354648
That's also true for Okinawa!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=36NolVPEvTA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uS72NswPJLw