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1) Why is the language situation so chaotic from Hungary to Alaska? How did these stranded language groups come about?

2) Does Siberia have the most extreme Mongoloid flat faces, or are these tribes often mixed with European genes
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3) Does anyone else think that Russia doesn't "deserve" Siberia? They didn't have to work for that territory, Russia just happened to be the last European country with no neighbour to the East
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>>3331648

Everyone in Russia pretty much speaks Russian. Maps like this greatly exaggerate the reality of the situation. Even in a place like Chechnya you're more likely to come across Russian speaking people and Russian language media than Chechen.
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>>3331648
Eastern-Siberian and central Asians have quite a lot European admixture afaik.

Hungarians adopted nomadic culture from iranians and Turks and joined the western migration of nomadic tribes from the east, raped everyone they found in the Carpathian basin and pretty much disappeared from the gene pool afterwords, only their language remained, so there's that. Bulgarians did the same, only they totally lost their original Turkic language and adopted Slavic, Hungarians were more stubborn.
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>>3331724
*Western Siberian
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>>3331724

Other way around.

The original population of Western Siberia and Northern Central Asia was West Eurasian but not European and contributed to Europeans
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>>3331724
>Hungarians adopted nomadic culture from iranians and Turks and joined the western migration of nomadic tribes from the east, raped everyone they found in the Carpathian basin and pretty much disappeared from the gene pool afterwords, only their language remained
any source on that?
>inb4 your ass
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>>3331794

He's BSing. Up to 8% of Hungarian males have Asiatic paternal lines according to the Hungarian Y-DNA project on FamilyTreeDNA.

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hungarian_Magyar_Y-DNA_Project?iframe=yresults

Although I should note that Hungary and Romania were both popular cumming spots for Eurasiatic males for up to 1500 years before the Magyar invasion and only 2% of Hung males have distinctly Ugric related Y-DNA, but there is no reason to assume the proto-Magyars had 100% of it.
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>>3331817
>Y-DNA
that doesn't tell anything, we need autosomal dna and full genetic makeup of original magyars and compare it with modern hungarians. But i agree with the part that he's bullshitting.
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>>3331648
1) It's not at all chaotic, actually it used to be pretty standard everywhere until a lot of diversity was lost due to Empires consolidating and homogenizing huge areas of land. Since Siberia is so isolated, that just didn't happen until Russians showed up. You could also add the lack of research and resources that would help establish possible connections that might exist between those languages.

2)Siberia actually used to be much more Caucasoid. People with European features lived as far east as Yenisei and Altai, until they were assimilated by the Turkic migrations. Siberia is also the home to some of the most extreme Mongoloid features in Asia. Pic related, the Nganasan are the northernmost population in Eurasia.
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>>3331850

East Asian mtDNA gradually increases in West-Central Siberia starting about 10000 years ago.

The preceding population could have not looked tropically Mediterranean like modern Europeans due to long adaptation to some of the coldest temperatures on Earth.

Corded Ware migration brought Mediterranean and Caucasian physiognomic types to the region around 2500 BC.
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>>3331866
>Corded Ware
>mediterranean
>caucasian
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>>3331901

Yep. Sintashta was 45% Anatolian derived(ENF) and 25% Caucasus(CHG). This was noted in their cranial variation. Northern European Corded Ware was slightly different and less heavily ENF.
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>>3331656
Are you dense? Russia conquered most of that land ffs
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