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why Japanese emperor living now?

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I'm Japanese.27years old.
I knew why Japanese emperor living today and I heard Douglas MacArthur and Japanese emperor have a good story for Japan
He decided not kill Japanese emperor.
I wondered how many American know why Japanese emperor living now.
How many American people have a proud to Douglas MacArthur decided not kill Japanese emperor?
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>>3327636
Obviously not Japanese but that aside it was one the main conditions of the surrender that the emperor remain in his position but he had to give up claims of in some way being divine and iirc Hirohito was largely uninvolved in the war
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Thanks your relpy. I'm Japanese.
your opinion is right. he have not authority for Japanese army I think already he is symbol.
what is iirc? sorry I don't know that,
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>>3327669
>iirc
I I remember correctly
And no I don't think Hirohito swayed the army much as it largely acted independent of the government and often conducted whatever it wanted without government orders
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Japanese army is sometime independent decision to attack. if emperor said "please save my life" to Douglas MacArthur. I think he kill emperor.
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Thank you for telling me "iirc" mean.
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>>3327636
Douglas MacArthur didn't kill the emperor because he thought the Japanese had a slave like mentality and that if they didn't have an emperor, they would go communist.

He not only allowed a war criminal to escape while innocent Japanese soldiers were hung, he and that pimple on his ass, Edward Almond, actively sought to cover up his crimes, and censor those Japanese who would question why someone responsible for so much suffering had a right to still be on the throne.
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>>3327735
Oh, and just in case it wasn't clear, I think MacArthur was one of the most deeply shameful characters in American history.
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Why shameful Characters?
I know he have not good personality. but he is good commander at WW2 except Philippines.
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>>3327636
They would never have done anything to the emperor. They would have had nationalist rioting in the streets and a full on revolt on their hands.
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天皇陛下万歳!
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what do you think Emperor System? so many Japanese don't care for emperor now.but I think almost Japanese doesn't want that abolition emperor system. Are you American?
What do you think emperor system? I just wonder how feeling nothing that system country people.
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>>3327807
Why don't you at least consult your dictionary?
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Why is Japanese broken English so cute? I want to keep OP in my house
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>> They would never have done anything to the emperor. They would have had nationalist rioting in the streets and a full on revolt on their hands.

ooh. Ohh that makes sense.

>> 天皇陛下万歳!

ありがとう。 私は天皇陛下は好きだけど万歳ではないよ。
I like emperor but not adored emperor.
Instead so many Japanese soldier want to save their family.not emperor. I hope almost soldier thinking same.
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OP are you that Japanese girl who was answering our questions about Japanese history a few weeks ago?
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no. not that girl. but my question is my wife question. Her english is more bad my english.
we talk to world history this afternoon.so my wife want to ask to that question to American.

>>Why don't you at least consult your dictionary?

sorry just I wanted to talk directly.
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>>3327849
Damn your wife sounds cool.
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>>3327849
But your English is horrible. It's not polite to ask something in an American board. You can use translation service site, too.
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>>3327854

haha.
yes my wife is cool(^^).
She want to talk other country people for understand different way of thinking.
my wife said "all reply guys is pretty good. Thanks using your important time".
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>>3327870
No bully, pls. He just wants to learn
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>>3327849

I’m terribly sorry. I should using polite English.
Thanks tell me my english is no polite.
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Hm. Subaru, what part of Japan are you from?
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>>3327890
OK. I love you now.
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>>3327903

from Kanagawa prefectureYokohama city.
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>>3327910
>>3327883

My wife feeling very glad to talk to guys.
She said all guys have a humanity(Japanese said humanity="NINJO-人情" NINJO is difficult to description. but very good means.
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>>3327916
Interesting. How do you feel about the current Emperor abdicating his throne, instead of dying in power like the others?
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>>3327636
It's not accepted in american culture to ask questions in broken english. You are being very rude, you should apologise and leave as soon as possible
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>>3327951
>It's another episode of an AmeriFag thinking he owns this website

wew lad
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>>3327955
OP specified that he adressed his question to americans, begone europoor
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>>3327951
Fuck off, cunt. He's trying his best and we can understand what he's saying just fine.
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She said "It is good things.Please rest fully."
He already too old and he have been working hard last 29 years.(Japan era 29 now. 平成29年)"
Start new Japan era when abdicating his throne.
She looking forward to start new japan era.
Many Japanese guess new japan era.
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>>3327951
Can we start picking apart your English language skills as well? Your last post had tense inconsistencies and was missing a full stop. Also you used the Queen's English-spelling so I'm going to assume you're not even American? Bit weird bruz.
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>>3327951
you are in america
a good portion of people in this country barely speak english, you HAVE to be cletus the third living in selma alabama if you take offense to broken engrish, youve never been to the outside world. YOU are the shameful one, never daring to experience the cultural diversity (no memes, its the reality) of this great country. kill yourself
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>>3327976
I'm as american as apple pie
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>>3327962
>>3327976
>>3327976
t. butthurt weebs eager to defend a jap
Go hug your body pillow
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>>3327981
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>>3327985
>t. assdamaged egocentricfag
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>>3327985
This image board website is a weeb board entirely from the start. It was created by a weeb boy and is managed by a Japanese guy now.
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>>3328002
Not an excuse for you to be a weeb
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>>3327981
Not gonna lie, an American spelling apologize with an 's' seems exceptionally retarded.
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>>3328008
Except it literally is
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MURICA
FUCK YEAH
GONNA TEACH THE JAPS A MOTHERFUCKIN LESSON
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>>3328012
What's your favourite colour?
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>>3327636
From what I understand, Japanese were ready to go really far to protect their emperor, and letting some puppet called emperor survive the war while stripping him of all power wasn't an expensive price, especially when Soviet were invading manchuria at an incredible speed.
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>>3327785
Aside from covering up Hirohito's crimes, MacArthur has a long history of wrongful and criminal behavior.

Do you know how he got the command of the Philippines? During the great depression, veterans from the First World War protested outside the capitol, hoping to get their pensions early, for fear that they would starve before they'd receive the pension. MacArthur was tasked to maintain order, and all on his own, he declared the soldiers to be a dangerous communist insurrection, and dispersed them with force, including the use of tanks, against crippled, old, unarmed veterans. After that, he was sent to the Philippines where it was thought he wouldn't make much trouble (and took bribes from the Phillipino government).

He was never a good general, only winning when he had overwhelming advantages. In Korea he showed this, when he was badly beaten by the Chinese, who were a second rate army.

MacArthur was never a good general, he was a corrupt, rightwing politician who collected a general's salary. He would have fit in fine in Japan during this period.
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Japan's decision to go to war with the US was the biggest gamble, and completely retarded. I'm not sure you can completely blame the emperor for Japan turning it's back on democracy and embracing madness. Americans don't give a shit about monarchs as a rule. I personally find it creepy that a foreign figurehead gets lots of prime Tokyo real estate, tax money, his own government agency, and death cult surrounding him.

I haven't studied MacArthur in Japan enough to comment on him. I do know he was fired because he wanted to Nuke the border between North Korea and China during the Korean War.
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>>3328026

Thanks your reply.
I almost understood. but
>>Letting some puppet called emperor survive the war while stripping him of all power wasn't an expensive price.
sentence is don't understand quickly.
(google translator is return bad Japanese.)
I try understand your reply. maybe ask my friend s tomorrow. she is speaking fluent English.

Soviet is very important why living emperor.
US Government fear Japan would go communist.
>>3327735
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>>3328060
>>Letting some puppet called emperor survive the war while stripping him of all power wasn't an expensive price.
権力を剥ぎ取られた天皇という名の操り人形を生かしておくことはたやすいことだった
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>>3328040

ohhhh. you reply is very useful for us.

I know MacArthur want to be president, but didn't to be that. He little bit overestimate himself.
He is very popular in japan 1945 -194x.then he misunderstood "I'm popular in USA",
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>>3328092

ohhh. I got it. Thanks!
It is interesting.
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>>3328104
日本語でおk
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>>3328106

まじか。きれいな日本語だと思った。
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>>3328096
I find it kind of odd how fast the Japanese changed their opinions about America after the war.
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Thanks guys.
My wife understood "Why Douglas MacArthur is not popular in USA history.
She thinking "60-70 years ago Japanese people think Douglas MacArthur did good things for economy and food and more" but it is japan story.
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>>3328117

yeah it is odd. GHQ education is big part.
my wife said "
She thinking many Japanese women adore American culture. and Japanese education didn't teach hate other country. That's why almost Japanese didn't hate USA and other country."
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>>3328043

Thanks your relpy.
Your message is interesting for us.
Japanese emperor is just symbol now.but my wife feel like parent. if emperor is gone,she feel sad but not strong need emperor for her life.
really emperor position is odd.
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>>3327681
huh always thought it was "if I recall correctly". Not that it makes much of a difference.
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>>3328188
just like the royalties in european countries
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But the Showa emperor is kill
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>>3327876
>She want to talk other country people for understand different way of thinking.
That's nice. I also want to know other cultures opinion, what do you think about this image? It is the most accurate depiction of an american "person"
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>>3327870
>american board
>america
>history
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Why do Asians never practice their English? I've never seen a Chinese exchange student once attempt to speak English to me, while every student from South America, Europe, and the Asia beyond East/South East Asia, are more than willing to speak.
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Hey OP

how much do the Japanese know about the bad things they did in World War 2?

For example Germany has it taught to them almost too much about their war crimes, but because Japan signed a good treaty i think they don't learn about the bad stuff as much.

Do the Japanese learn a lot about the Rape of Nanking the bad stuff to Koreans?
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>>3329348
They don't try to socialize outside of their group because they know that they will be ridiculed. Hence why they never speak english
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>>3329375
They're ridiculed for speaking broken English because they literally do not try, yet want to study in an English-speaking country that only offers degrees in French and English.
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>>3329382
Not only that, asians are being ridiculed for being nerdy and having weird habits too.
They don't bother practicing the language since they know that their uni will have enough asians to form a group and communicate within that group
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>>3329405
But they need to communicate with their professors. My university is very small, so one answers to them. They have to be able to write in English (most cannot.)

It's a serious problem. Most of them cheat on their TOEFL.
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>>3327636
To be honest I think it would have been an immense tragedy for the oldest institution on the planet to be destroyed. He probably wasn't even guilty of propagating the war, though it's also possible the Americans covered it all up.

Punishing war criminals is a meme anyways though, just a way for the victor to justify themselves-- plenty of Americans committed crimes worse than anything the Emperor ordered. Even if he was guilty of war crimes the best option was the one McArthur took-- pardon the Emperor, stabilize Japan, and end the war without more bloodshed.
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>>3327636
I knew the Emperor survived the war and the position is still in place today. Although we were enemies back then, vicious enemies at that, the war was decided. A surrender is a surrender and to continue killing Japanese would have made us the same as the enemy we fought so hard to destroy
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>>3328664

Hello
I am his wife.
Thank you for answering a lot of my questions
I do not have good English as he said and I will use google translation

He and I also learned a lot by asking questions
I am very happy

I also want to know other cultures opinion, what do you think about this image? It is the most accurate depiction of an american "person"
I think that discrimination is not good
But there is discrimination even among Japanese
Japanese do not say discriminatory ideas much, but I think that they discriminate in the mind
That's why I felt it was a very straightforward expression when I saw the image
I think that it is very sad to judge people and judge people in the country
I'm more glad if everyone gets along
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ching chong (͠≖ ͜ʖ͠≖)
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>>3329348
I am sorry that my English is not good
I think that English that is learned at school is very low and that few people can conduct everyday conversation is not good, including me
Moms who have been learning English since now were more now than years ago
From now on, it is necessary for more Japanese to become international
I think that there are still many immature Japanese, including me, but I will do my best and I will study, so please let me know if I'm wrong

I will do my best as I can answer accurately if I heard the way first!
Thank you
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>>3330171
Just a little tip, when giving your opinion on things (like your experience of being taught english) the words "Good" and "Poor" are usually used instead of "high" and "low"
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It was for the best, if we killed him at the time it would've been the equivalent of committing deicide, and as we learned from Jesus bad things happen if you kill the guy people believe is god.
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>>3330171
It's extremely difficult to learn any language in a classroom, because of the high degree of practice required.
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>>3330171

American here, I've heard that you guys teach english like we teach Spanish. Badly.

We teach spanish really badly, no immersion, force it on elementary children that don't want to learn it.

Best way to learn english would honestly be to read english forums. I wish my Japanese was good enough to read 2ch.
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>>3327642
>iirc Hirohito was largely uninvolved in the war
That's actually pretty hotly disputed
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>>3327642
I don't think he was uninvolved, but I think Tojo was mainly calling the shots
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>>3330171
many americans know that macarthur was a flawed commander in later years, but on the whole was a great leader.

>>3328040
historical revisionism
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>>3330171
Another american here.

How do you guys handle working such long hours? Working 12 hour shifts and then having to drink with your coworkers seems crazy to us. I can't imagine my childhood without spending time with my Dad after he finished working.
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>>3327849
Can you post pics of wife wearing an octopuss as a hat?
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>>3328188
>>3328464
As a brit, I can confirm. I'm not going to charge into an American trench swinging a claymore any time soon, but the Queen is well liked and I would hate to see the monarchy go given how integral it is to British history.

James I is my waifu
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>>3329349
Because I am stupid, I did not see the textbook properly because I slept even though I went to school
That's why I think I have to become an adult properly and I study and ask questions here

I asked my husband
Japan was saying that he was studying bad things that was a war at school
I am a student who can not study but I understand that Japanese also had plenty of bad things and rude things in war
sorry

Recently I often see news of comfort women issue in Japan
So I think students also learn at school and think about even on television
Japanese are supposed to think that what the Japanese did about the comfort women issue is not good
In my personal opinion I do not think that I can heal my heart by handing money but Japan thinks that I correctly admit my guilt to Korea properly

However, since the thing of seeing the comfort women problem on TV is increasing, Japanese people are dissatisfied with how much they compensate to South Korea
It does not mean that it does not do bad things
But I think Japanese have something to think about agreeing with South Korea
I think that it is not saying that you are forgiving me
Japanese people think that it is dissatisfied there because there are many people who cherish promises or cherish it

There are people who do stupid things, as well as now and now, among the Japanese
Japanese people who go to your country and do something rude think it is a shame
sorry

I'm sorry if I did not answer
Thank you
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>>3327681
>And no I don't think Hirohito swayed the army much as it largely acted independent of the government and often conducted whatever it wanted without government orders
This. The idea that Hirohito was in control is ridiculous when even the government wasn't in control of the army.
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>>3330283
>Can you post pics of wife wearing an octopuss as a hat?

I'm her husband.why octopuss hat,that is famous japanese anime charactor?
Maybe can't upload pic and we don't have a as octopuss hat. she is very shy.
I just working now(japan time is am 10:42) then instead my wife try reply.
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>>3330343
Do you know about the Nanking massacre?
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>>3330283
Rabbit is not octopus but is it okay?
It is our family.
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>>3330343
My parents are both South Korean immigrants, and I know that I don't speak for all Koreans here but they don't seem too concerned about it. There really is no need to apologize for what your grandfather or your great-grandfather did in the war. Really the only concern here is that instead of denying or apologizing for what happened, we all accept what happened and move on.
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>>3330380
>There really is no need to apologize for what your grandfather or your great-grandfather did in the war.
This. The idea that individuals should suffer for the sins of their grandparents, or their nation, or their race even, is a very evil idea.
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>>3330343
Hey there anon, I just wanted to thank you for coming to the board and being so polite with your questions, even if your English isn't the best it could be. I hope you have a wonderful day and it's always interesting to hear from people in other parts of the world!
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/his/ - International Exchange & Pretending to be American
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USA ist kacken
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If OP still comes to this thread, what do Japanese people think of Portugal? Do they know Portugal was the first western nation to stablish contact with Japan?
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>>3327636
MacArthur is my hero
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>>3330571>>3330571

Hi. I'm here.

Yes I know. Portugal is very important country,talk to about 1500-1600 Japan.
Portugal give many new stuff and new culture,religion to japan.
Maybe I remember Portugal people came to Tanegashima island.
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>>3330597

haha. Really(^^)?
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>>3327739
You and every other libcuck salted because gooks had to get hurt.
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>>3330363
>Nanking massacre

Maybe she know Nanking massacre.
but I thought she didn't know detail information.
Nanking massacre is very sad event. I thinking more or less many people died in Nanking(by Japanese army and other group or army). but we can't do not know the exact number of people now.
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What do the japanese think/know about tibetans and their weird magic buddhism?
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>>3330240

Hi everyone.
Japanese people can understand easy English.but Almost Japanese is very shy and don't like say wrong word and not polite English,so they are didn't speak to English.
I know my English is still bad,but I had a good chance to make a Canadian friends,so I can try to make a relationship English speaker.

I'm very happy to tell me my english is not polite and rude,a person who tells wrong things is important.
At least my wife want to discussion to other country.
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>>3330778
English speakers are not offended by bad English, we're used to it from TV shows and movies.

I am flying to Japan today, in about 5 hours, I don't speak ANY Japanese, how much will i struggle to get around Tokyo?
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>>3330820

Really? It's so nice,we are very glad to heard to that.

>> I don't speak ANY Japanese, how much will i struggle to get around Tokyo?

Don't worry. I think so many English sign board and English food menu here.
But Tokyo subway is very difficult for other country people,It is like a labyrinth.
Please don't hesitate ask to Japanese if you lost here.
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>>3329455

pardon. Pardon is very important things in the world.
Even if US goverment just took advantage of emperor for occupy Japan.
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>>3330861

People were giving you shit about your english just to be assholes, don't worry about them.
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>>3330246
Absolutely and Hirohito wasn't blameless as he ordered the suicides at Saipan but I feel he mostly uninvolved because even the government was barely controlling the army
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>>3327636
We live look forward to the day that your emperor is restored to his proper place.
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>>3330699
No, moreso the fact he was a self-grandiose asshole who always shit up politics between the army and the government. On top of wanting to start nuclear war for no real reason.
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>>3327980
Hey man, Cletus the 3rd from Monroeville, Alabama here. I used to work at a Chinese restaurant and a notable amount of people would come up and complain about my boss's poor understanding of English and her Chinese business ethic, but even then nobody was rude enough to say anything to her directly about it about it so you're only half right.
This guy >>3327951 is truly a pissbaby
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This thread is nice.
Subaru-family, how do you feel about modern china?
I ask because my girlfriend is from Tokyo and she thinks Chinese people are trying to take over Japan. Do all Japanese people feel this way about China?
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>>3327642
>but he had to give up claims of in some way being divine

If I recall correctly, it was pointless anyway. He announced that his family wasn't divine in a radio message to the people but he used a form of Japanese that the majority couldn't understand.

It would be like the Queen of England making an announcement to her people in Latin today (although it's a little different since people nowadays could just google it and find out what she said) but you get the point.
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>>3331036

proper place. I think present emperor position is proper.
if he or she have a more authority, I think that some friendly feeling for the Emperor decrease.
My wife opinion is might different.I will ask to her when go back home.
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>>3331198

China have a lot of potential.
If japan continues procrastination,China be able to take over Japan soon.
I think middle age and young Japanese have a not confidence to Japan and their future. Japanese salary is not increase recently.
I think at first Japanese should be agree to china have a power,then we consider what we should to do. We have to stop see chinese bad point.
Sense of superiority is the most scary emeny.

It is just my opinion.Other Japanese and my wife have a different opinion.
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>>3331024
Japanese military was just a fucking mess, period. So much infighting it's a wonder they managed to do joint operations at all. Which is not to detract anything from the Japanese soldiers themselves.
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Subaru-san
Subaru-sama
I just wanted you to know that you're a bae and your husband is cool too.
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>>3329422
I think it's because they are afraid of people making fun of them. I'm French and I studied in Ireland for a year, yet it was hard in the begining for me to speak because I know my accent is shit
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>>3330343
I have never met a Japanese tourist that wasn't respectful. The Japanese are a very respectful society
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>>3327636
...is it just me or was kim jong il's getup eerily similar to macarthur's?
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>>3327636
I don't think executing the Emperor was ever on the table, what the Americans probably wanted was to force him to abdicate, or even end the monarchy
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What do the Japanese people think about North Korea? There's a lot of scare mongering by the U.S. media about North Korea, but what do the Japanese think about the issue. Do you see North Korea as a real threat? Do you think North Korea bombing Japanese soil could really happen?
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What a strangely wholesome thread.
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>>3331095
MacArthur was a cunt, pure and simple. So was Patton, but Patton was at least an outstanding commander, MacArthur was middling at best. I wouldn't say he was incompetent or even a "bad" general, but he was a cunt, and I think that colors the way a lot of people see him today.

I'm biased personally, of course, because I know several men who served in Korea and still despise MacArthur with a passion to this day.
>>3330369
>mfw
Goddamnit, that's the cutest thing I've seen all day.
>>3327951
This guy's a cunt too.
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>>3327636
Why is this thread so god damn human?
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>>3327981
So you're actually West European (apple pie) and Central Asian (where apples came from)?
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>>3331378
The edgelords fear the samurai warrior
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Thanks so many reply.
I'm on the way to my home.
I will try reply your questions and opinion.
Little bit surprised what many people interesting this thread(*0▿0*)
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>>3331445
What part of Japanese History or any history in particular do you like most?
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What a comfy thread.
My little brother used to be really into WW2 Japan when he was young, he used to draw the Japanese war flag a lot, he also drew the japanese fighter planes and such.
Are kids in Japan allowed to draw such things? Like Japanese WW2 era weapons, flags, uniforms, tanks, planes...
Or is it looked down upon?
I'm from Finland and people generally think it's normal for kids to be into soldiers and army stuff.
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>>3331445
How is ancient western history - like the greeks and romans and the bronze age stuff - seen in Japan? Do universities have chairs or faculties for Ancient Not-Asian History or is it just some stuff people only briefly touch upon in school and don't really care about at all?
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>>3330343
I'm Australian and what your jap fathers did in the pacific was fking discusting you and your nip fathers can get fucked up the ass good day when North Korea finally nukes you so then we can nuke them too!!!!!!!
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>>3331445
Get fucked up ass you nip you worse then German ww2 no joke worst people war crime and murder ww2.
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Kill kill kill all japan ww2 know I never post only read but Japan ww2 pure evil in pacific .
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>>3331413
I think you may have spoken too soon...

>>3331562
>>3331578
>>3331587
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>>3331593
It's just Australians being Australian, we have to respect their culture.
Just a lil' bit o' banter mate.
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>>3331593
They killed and starved people worse then German did absolute devil the memories of my people that had fight this monster japan ww2 now we help them from North Korea haha weak japan scum I speak broke English so you hear me and learn ww2 japan pure evil I love we nuke you .
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>>3331601
The Anzac live on through me die die die japan
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This what alive person lucky after war lucky they not dead no look up japan ...... Picture evil ww2 scientist dissecting ALIVE war prisoner not dead person alive!!!!!
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>>3331601
No banter involved mate these cocksuckers are literally the worst on earth they continue to plague Australia when no cunt wants them here we won't forget our fallen to these no remorse no mercy scum of the earth .
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>>3330776

She didn't know tibetans and their their weird magic buddhism.
I think that to not popular in Japan.
but I know that.
The Japanese people are non religious.but Buddhism and Shinto events are naturally held in our lives.
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>>3331562
>>3331578
>>3331587

I know Imperial Army had many bad things at ww2 and some country don't like Japan.
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>>3327951
shut the fuck up.
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Apologise for Nanjing
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>>3331883
Don't listen to em Subaru. At least people acknowledge the crimes. As long as that's remembered, and learnt. It's good enough for most of us.
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>>3327636
>How many American people have a proud to Douglas MacArthur decided not kill Japanese emperor?

I'm pretty happy he didn't since the peace process worked out rather well. Killing him would have probably raised a ridiculous amount of bad blood between Japan and the USA. That's not the kind of relationship a superpower would want with one of its largest trading partners and allies in the pacific.

People here have a bit of a hateboner for MacArthur but I'd say pre-Korean war he was pretty damn good and handled occupation far better than what could have been.

As for the Emperor himself, he seemed a bit weak to be honest. The army being allowed to hijack the country like that did happen under his reign.
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>>3331318

We can't say 100% nothing North Korea bombing to Japan.
Japanese education is not fight not kill people. Japanese do not want to start war.
North korea is like a 1939 Japan(ABCD encirclement).
The Japanese do not think North Korea is a threat.because the life of the Japanese is as usual.
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>>3327642
>one the main conditions of the surrender
No, the surrender was unconditional, as per the American demands. The Japanese had issued terms for surrender several times previously in the year that included that condition but they went ignored. It was only after the surrender that the decision was "made" to allow the Emperor to keep his position (truth is MacArthur planned from the outset to keep him seated because it would make the populace more accepting of occupation/reconstruction, which was his primary goal)
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>this thread
So wholesome :)
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>>3331545
Ancient western history is interesting.
Maybe Medieval Europe is most popular,because many TV show and movie.
Napoléon Bonaparte and Jehanne Darc is popular in Japan.
1950-1990 Japanese think that longing for European and USA life.
That life style and culture is shining.but so many other county people like Japanese culture now.It is interesting.
In the near future, China and other countries may be subject to admiration.
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>>3332071
what other countries do you mean Mr Japanese man?
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>Euro schoolday ends, thread goes to shit.
Like pottery
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>>3332078
I think that all countries have that possibility.
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>>3332086
more like
>americans wake up on a holiday
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>>3331474

My wife said "Currently the many things are happening and it is interesting."

I think that opinion is right.

My favorite part of japan history is 1869 to 1960.
I feel proud in Japan trying to challenge a variety of things.
I am interested in the results of my grandpa generation making efforts and grasping it.
I think that it is an adventure of a small outdated country.
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>>3332224
What do you and Japanese as a whole think about foreigners marrying the japanese? And does it vary depending the sex of the japanese person in question?
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>>3331519
Yes. Though it's not as popular as before, WW2 weapons' plastic models are still popular among boys. None of imperial Japanese designs, songs or books are forbidden. For example, rising sun flag is still used for the official Japanese SDF flag. For it would be censorship. Japanese constitution strictly forbids censorship.
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>>3332317
It's totally OK. Few people are Japanese supremacist like white supremacist in USA who opposes race mixing. Nowadays International marriage (国際結婚) is not so rare. Many men and women marry foreigners from western or asian countries (3% to 6% of newly married couple is international marrieage). But foreigners, especially western people are still minorities in Japan. So what's called "half" kids are often bullied in school because their looks are different.
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>>3332485
Actually the rising sun flag, which is used by the Navy, at least the one where it is off-center, has its colour changed to a much brighter and vivid red.

Or so I am being told, there are five, if I am not mistaken, official shades of red that can be used for the flag, but the national flag that is.
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>>3329349
Of course we learn about Japanese war crimes in school. Massacre of Nanking, Manilla, Singapore, Unit 731 etc. They are horrible and atrocious. They are favorite theme of tv and mass media. Japanese historian especially likes to study IPJ war crimes. Because most social science teachers are leftist. Also we learn that most of the war criminals are persecuted including prime minister (except unit 731 bastards) and Japan apologized all the known war crimes and concluded a peace treaty with allies.
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>>3332071
Japanese aesthetics and philosophy of aesthetics are top tier. I absolutely love Japanese sense of design and architecture. Both the west and Japan can learn a thing from each other.
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>>3332558
Thanks. I didn't know there were several designs. It's interesting. Rising sun flag is often associated with Japanese militarism abroad. But we have loved this design for long time and you see numerous companies and organizations still use it in Japan. Even the most leftist news paper company in Japan uses it as their symbol mark. The name of the company is "Rising sun news paper"(朝日新聞).
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>>3332606
We are also fascinated with foreign culture. I like Japanese traditional designs too. But our modern cities and buildings are ugly af.
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>>3327807
definitely keep your monarch, having multiple executives is dope af.
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>>3332521
Cool beans.

Thanks for replying, Subs, and thanks for making your hubby make a comfy thread, Subaru-chan.
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>>3328040
He also had the jap general who beat him in the philipines killed
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>>3332835
Everyone in the Philippines wanted Homma dead and also Yamashita. Alongside other officers for warcrimes.

t. Flip.
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>>3330778
Your English isn't rude in the same way as lacking 尊敬語 and 謙譲語 in Japanese. A lot of Americans just get uppity when foreigners don't have perfect English. It's honestly unrealistic when it comes to people trying to learn.
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>>3330820
Luckily, in Tokyo, most people in the service industry has workable English, and don't worry too much about the trains since the ones in large cities like Tokyo are very foreigner friendly
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>>3327636
MacArthur did nothing wrong. Only fat virginal autistic aimchair generals fault him for his imagined and liberal mythology reinforced sins
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>>3331519

Yes. No problem.
Japanese culture is very open weapon and national flag.
We are not interested in weapons etc during the Second World War.
Young people also enjoy animation and anthropomorphization.
Do you know 艦これ(kancolle)
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki.
Actually my wife collecting ww2 battleship plastic model. Most favorite battleship is Nagato. Taisho era Japanese felt very friendly that ship worked for the Kanto Earthquake.
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>>3331367

Thanks!! Upload cute pic.
Is that your dogs?
Dogs clothes is so cute and funny.
My wife is so laughing when see that,and she immediately download her cellphone.
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>>3332818

Someone kindly wrote that reply.
Thanks anonymous Japanese.
I think that it is an explanation of knowledge and a neutral position.

Children of international marriage do not count towards bullying when they are very young. However, becoming an adult often makes it impossible to envy from around. I think this is related to the social nature of the Japanese.
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This is a cute thread. It is nice when someone goes against the usual poisonous irony and cynicism of this site. Thank you subaru, made me happy.
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Subaru & wife

What is the japanese consensus about this man? And in your eyes was he just a LARPer (basically a faker like don quioxtie) or a hero for Japanese culture?

Further, how do you guys feel about the aging population you guys have? I have seen a video by Caspian Report saying that to solve it basically Japan needs to go full automation or start allowing chinese-korean-other immigrants to come. Is the second option even possible?
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>>3330778

we dont find it rude, we find it endearing (likeable or sweet)
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>>3327636
American here. I am proud of how well MacArthur handled post-war reconstruction in Japan. Japan got a good, modern constitution, better than our own in some respects. We successfully re-established stable government and the rule of law in Japan. And of course I am happy that today are countries are close allies, militarily and economically.

I wish our efforts since had been handled as carefully. We have failed to establish peaceful, successful countries in South America, Central America, and now the Middle East. I believe this is because we do not treat the locals with respect and only consider our own short-term goals, with no understanding of how or why to create stability. But MacArthur did it right.
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>>3328040
Lies and slander
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I've actually heard that Hirohito was far more moderate than actually believed, and was mostly pressured by the more radical and militant politicians. Is this true?
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This is such a nice thread

Reminds me of what I think the early internet communities interactions between people from different parts of the world must have been like, seeing how other cultures view things.

thanks OP
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>>3331562
>straya cunt
>discusting

checks out
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>>3334433
We don't care much about Mishima. He is a crazy extreme right who committed sudoku and nobody reads his works now except some weirdos. I'm one of those weirdos so I like his early novels but have no sympathy for his ideology. Murakami is far more popular. I think Mishima was never even a hero of right wing. But he is somewhat popular among gay and artists.

Aging population is a big problem we've been procrastinating since 90s. Apparently, we will need automation or immigrants if we would keep our standard of living we enjoy now. But we also have this strong xenophobia inherent in our DNA. So it's not likely we will accept large mass of immigrants from abroad. Personally, I don't think we can replace all jobs with AI or robots. I'm for immigrants but they should be white collars with education like engineers or scholars. If we accept a large number of blue collar immigrants, the prejudice based on jobs will be associated with the prejudice for foreigners and will cause a social problem of discrimination.

Fortunately, China will develop more and more economically in the future. If we make use of it correctly, we can improve our economy and at least slow down the speed of population decline. Anyway, China and other developing Asian countries is our hope not only for Japan but for world economy.
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>>3334716
>loved confessions of a mask
>am a gay artist weirdo
yep, checks out
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>>3328040
The Chinese were very well led and disciplined but Macarthur was an arrogant hack
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>>3334748
After all, Mishima was a gay artist. Monarchy was totally out of date even in the 1970s. But he was so talented and had so strong masochistic tendency that his life long dream was to die for some sublime being. He didn't believe in God, so the sublime being should be Emperor. Being killed by beautiful boys was an extra bonus. Did you read The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea? The very sailor must be his ultimate Marty St.
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>>3327890
lol, I read everything he says in voice of that Jap guy from Breakfast at Tiffany's
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>>3330694
That's nice. Did you watch the movie Silence? If yes, did you like it? How was it received in Japan?
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>>3334433

The current Japanese don't care of Yukio Mishima.
I think he is little strange way of thinking and sensitivity than other people.
I wonder he could have been a romantic who kept pursuing his ideals.
He just favor beautiful stuff.If beautiful, do not care about sex.

I do not know much about Yukio Mishima so I can't to say deeply and correctly about him.
Absolutely my wife doesn't know about to Yukio Mishima detail information.
I think he is already the forgotten man.

There are friends with many populations like India and Southeast Asia.
In Japan, the population is decreasing and the land near Tokyo will also be cheaper.
I believe that instead of accepting immigrants, foreign companies should advance laws that make it easier for foreign companies to enter Japan.

I think that Japan needs a little patriotic education.
The school did not tell me the value as a Japanese.
For that reason, I feel uneasy about the sinking Japan.

I think that the time has come for education to think about what young people do with their own country.
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>>3334716
>fortunately china will develop more and more economically in the future

Isn't that a really, really bad thing for Japan considering that those two nations have a searing hatred that has been alight for decades? Chinese dominence in Japan might be an inevitability, but considering what happened in the Eastern block I would hate to see you guys under that particular imperialism. In fact a chinese-dominated japan would probablly turn out like Jin-rho only with slightly more marxism.
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>>3335146
>searing hatred

Maybe you should read more than just what the CNN tells you
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>>3335125
It's strange because in the West we always considered Japanese education to be more patriotic than Western education
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>>3334785
>The very sailor must be his ultimate Marty St.
at the time that i read it i didn't know much of anything about his politics or personal life, but in retrospect that totally makes sense
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>>3334454

That’s so thoughtful of you.
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>>3335159

Really? I asked my coworker "Have you ever feel patriotic education your school life?"
He said "no". his is 38 years old.I'm 37 years old.almost same generation.
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>>3327636
>27 years old
>wife
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>>3335233

yes. my wife is 27 years old.
I'm 37 years old.
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>>3335276
I'm 32, I pretend to be 25 and my gf is 19. Looks like I win.
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>>3334510

Thanks reply our question.
your opinion is very important.
someone didn't like MacArthur, Someone admits him.
It's important to see things from a different perspective.
If I want to improve my life and around enviroiment, learning various knowledge,different perspective, experience, history will help judgment.

Many of the US occupation policy failed.
But currently, Japanese do not have a negative image about the United States.
MacArthur has done a good job for America.

Different perspective is interesting.
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>>3328040
>how dare he do what he was tasked to do
>how dare he lose against a force that used human wave tactics
Please kill yourself bleeding-heart liberal retard
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>>3334716
>We have this strong xenophobia inherent in our DNA
Jap Anon you're the same human as an American or any other Asian. You're xenophobic due to your culture and being a closed nation that hasn't experienced any real mass immigration or settlement of other cultures/people.
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>>3327870
>American board.
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>>3327636
The Emperor of Japan was just a figurehead by the time the war ended. He had no real power and there wasn't any need to kill him. It proved a good idea to leave him be, too, because when he tried to resign from emperor the people wanted him back. Morale boost after the war to rebuild what was lost
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>>3332844
desu the mor ri read about him the more it seemed like he was one of the few sane IJA commanders but ended up paying for the crimes of the people around him

t. another flip
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>>3332485
>Japanese constitution strictly forbids censorship.
What about mosaic in adult videos?
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>> 3335086

Sorry at least I did not know that.
However, I was interested that movie.I might read the original novel "Silence by Syusaku Endo".
My wife's religion is Catholic, but she is not an avid Catholic. I remembered that she was usually wearing a St. Mary's medal necklace.
I like Shinto's way of thinking.
Shinto accepts and fuses various religions and does not deny other religions.
That's why I prefer Shinto.

There are various religions in the world.
I have Muslim friends and Christian friends.
I wanted to know more about them, so I read books of about those religions.
To be honest, I do not remember much content.

I think that it is important to try to know different values, different religions, different countries.
Even if I do not understand all.
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>>3335480

>What about mosaic in adult videos?

haha. Those who can't see it all are drawing up imagination.
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>>3334716
Like, why don't you just fuck each other more?

Run a government campaign to encourage fucking, give rewards to parents of multiple kids, all that shit. Can't be that hard.
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>>3327807
>What do you think of the Emperor system?
As a European, I find it pretty cool.

Monarchs in general aren't needed nowadays but they are culturally pretty significant (like a festival, it's not venture to advance the economy, merely to entertain people and let them enjoy something different) and the modern ones usually help their countries and the people living in them. They are kind of like extremely rich people, but unlike those, they have to keep up a public image and can't go around flaunting just how rich they are.

>>3335673
>Run a government campaign to encourage fucking, give rewards to parents of multiple kids, all that shit. Can't be that hard.

They don't have a problem with going at it (and the innumerable amounts of love hotels should have been a dead giveaway), they just can't have kids unless they accept a pretty shitty life. By the time they get a decent enough salary to feed a family, they are already starting 40s and long after the time when having kids is easy or recommended.

This situation developed because of the need to keep up the economy after the crash had happened. Obviously, you can see that it's the government itself that opted to arrange things this way and as such, they are in no position to start diminishing their workforce and straining the social system further.

Though hearing Abe talk about their plans to stabilize the coutry at 100 million people is a bit sad, given that he basically says there are currently 27 million Japanese who have no right being there and they'd be better of if they had never been born in the first place.
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>>3335717
Well i think it will be fine, population issues usually work themselves out
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>>3335146
China had been our role model for a long time. Our letters, religion, political system like emperor, all came from China. Japan always likes to be friends with the most powerful country. 1st China, before ww1 it's UK. During the ww2, it's German ( or we thought so at that time) after ww2, it's USA. If China surpasses USA in the future, and it's highly likely, we will not hesitate to be friends with China again.
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>>3335159
It is a misunderstanding. Sorry for [spoiler]reddit [/spoiler] link.
Japan's history textbooks, according to the scientific study by the Stanford University, are more factual and less nationalistic than even America's.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3ofnqi/south_koreas_government_has_announced/cvwszuz/

"Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added."

I myself didn't have any patriotic education throughout my school years. Of course we human are naturally patriotic more or less. But I believe the Japanese are the last people to fight for their country. Because mere thinking of war is, in a sense, a taboo in Japan. We invaded Asia, we commit horrible things to Asian people, we are nuked. War is a bad bad thing. You should never think about it. That's basically our history education in school. Pic related.
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>>3327951
You're on a Japanese website
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>>3330261
>facts i don't like are wrong because they hurt my feelings
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