Gothic Armor or Milanese Armor?

>>3326865
Gothic because it looks lighter and a little bit more advanced.

Aesthetics Wise: I love the Gothic Armor Design, but the Italian Helmets are Very Pleasing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciPu4DnKBuM

>>3326865
The Milanese helmet looks cooler but gotta agree, the gothic armour looks less clunky, and more well-fitted.
Also, just look at the milanese's boots compared to the gothic's

>>3326883
just face it, you love the Big Black Gothic helmet you whore

>>3326897
Lol Nah dude, I Would Wear the Gothic Armour and Swap the Helmets!

>>3326894
>Thistles
>Celtic knots
That's a bit on the nose isn't it

>>3326912
that's what they all say, when you go big black armor you never go back

>>3326865
Milanese are "mass" produced exports while Gothic armours are tailored. practically they both do the job well but Milanese armour might be a bit clunky while the gothic is tightly formed.

Gothic armour has ridges that strengthen the surface of the armour as well as articulate as sabatons and hand armour. It's also more flexible near the shoulders.

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If you guys like some more input, there's this awesome youtuber that brings up some good points about this debate.

https://youtu.be/Jxh2vU72Irs

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Milanese is more aesthetically pleasing to me.

Gothic, hands down, more sophisticated in every respect of its function and ergonomics.

>>3326974

he teaches language right? yet I heard him say "undistinguishable"

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Greenwich armor

>>3327163
>Can't see shit

GOTHIC STYLE ARMOUR IS EVIDENTLY BETTER THAN ITALIAN STYLE ARMOUR, BOTH AESTHETICALLY, AND TECHNICALLY.

GOTHIC STYLE ARMOUR IS AKIN TO SUPER SKINNY STRETCH WAXED JEANS.

ITALIAN STYLE ARMOUR IS AKIN TO RAW DENIM STRAIGHT CUT JEANS.

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>>3326865>>3326873
>a little bit more advanced
That shouldn't come as a surprise because this type of Milanese armour is an earlier design. The German contemporary of this sort of armour was not Gothic but Kastenbrust armour.

Didn't anyone else make distinct types of armor besides the germans and italians?

>>3327159

And? It's a perfectly cromulent word.

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>>3327184
Tobias Capwell formulated the thesis that there was a type of English armour which he based on effigies that clearly showed certain patterns that were unusual or unique in comparison with continental pieces. No suit of that kind survived though, just a bunch of select armour pieces.
However, armour was mostly made in the alpine regions of Italy and Germany (including Austria), which probably had logistic reasons.

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>>3327204
I should add: a distinct type of English armour before Greenwich, which obviously was distinct in its own way.

Transitional.

>>3327211
So what part makes this its own style? The angled waist, the fully articulated thighs, or not having a pointy shoe?

>>3327285
It depends on what you are referring to by "this". The earlier English style? If so, you'd have to look at the work of Toby Capwell. In general, English armour tended to be more symmetrical, like German armour, rather than asymmetrical like Italian armour. But less pointy (albeit not as round as Italian armour), often featuring "leafy" shapes. It was also optimised for combat on foot as English knights were often fighting in such a fashion. The suit you see in >>3327211 however is a much later English style from the 16th century. It still looks somewhat distinct, but during the 16th century the styles kind of merged and continental Italian or German armour would be basically composed of the same components and be similarly proportioned.

It's such a shame that the coolest sets of armor came about when armor itself was becoming pointless.

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Am I the only one who really prefers the armet and close helm to the sallet?

>>3328698
>>3328672
>ywn literally shit yourself as this fully armored brute on his fully armored horse charges you down to hack you to bits and trample said bits into the mud

Why even life?

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This is my dream armour right here boys, what style?

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>>3328851
For the more opulent anon

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O R I E N T A L

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>>3326865
Whichever has the larger brayette.

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Milanese - good tier
Gothic - top tier
LATE 16TH CENTURY FULL PARADE ARMOUR - DIVINE GOD TIER

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>>3328775
Armets are too mainstream. Burgonets are the really rare ones. Although I think they were rarely used with full plate armor at this point, this might just be a replica.

>>3328851
Unfortunately this style of armour dosen't have any spesific name like "gothic" or "maximilian". The closest you can come is "parade armour" because many of them were highly decorated. However it's misleading since many of them were used in battle and tournaments.
Maybe you can call them "gendarme armour", since it was worn by the gendarmes?

>>3328998
Does anyone know about a particular castle in Austria with a ton of armour on display, including a gigantic set (clearly intended for a 7-8 foot man) with a schlong sheath of equally disproportionate size? Visited it as a kid and haven't managed to figure out what castle it was since.

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>>3329077
I think the burgonet was more popular together with the three quarters armour, like the distinctive savoyard armour

>>3327163
How exactly do you see in those things

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>>3328945
QINGZ are aesthetic.

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Fuck Metal.

>>3329167
Was this actually worn? If so, by who?

>>3326865
Gothic because his kicks match his top

>>3329183
Normans, but who knows?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/pin/182255116142247121/

>>3329212
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>>3329183
This is just some fantasy shit. Would have been expencive since leather, yet flimsy and way inferiour to metal or even a gambeson

>>3329228
Leather + a chainmail and ur sorted.
Fuck nobles and knights.

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>>3329167
>use shitty material
>put big gaps between shitty material to make it even easier to kill you
This is why fantasy armour designers deserve to be slapped repeatedly

>>3326865
gothic, I'm a sucker for that Salet.

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>>3329251
We're talking about armor designed by same people who think that weapons like this are a good idea so slapping them might be too gentle of an approach.

>>3326865
>gothic
thin
>milanese
THICC

>>3329243
Simple plate tended to be less expensive than chainmail lad.

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Maximilian best style

>>3329167
People have put metal underneath leather, stupid %)

>>3329109
I've been there recently! That is the castle outside of Innsbruck. I am almost certain on this! There were many interesting things to see there as well.

>>3329489
I multiply this.

>>3329505
Cheaper to spend more on metal then on losing weight I guess.

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>>3329505
God damn it, my namesake.

>>3327171
The tripfag likes skinny jeans, what a surprise.

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Superior.

>>3329613
>>3329617
lmao, all that effort to armor plate the limbs, yet leaving the torso exposed to leather only.

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>>3329617
>>3329613
That shit is Super-Special SCA Ren-Fair Gay.

>>3329505
THICC

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So why are the majority of surviving suits 16th century ones?

>>3329767
Europe was peaceful enough to not have to keep using those armors anymore. I bet a lot of chainmail and plate armor kept being reused for hundreds of years and just wore out completely.

>>3329640
Are you retarded?

>>3327163
>mfw i have no face

>>3327163
>Can´t see shit
>Gets maced in the head
>falls inconsciently
>enter in coma
>war ended
>I am alive
>Bestarmor.jpg

>>3328669
Aliens in middle age

>>3328857
If I saw a fag with this in the middle of the battlefield I would immediately go after him

>>3329120
naive armor

>>3329309
>weapons like these
>post awesome weapon

Just imagine lifting the 40 KG weapon and swinging this piece of shit while you gets killed by a bowman or simply by a guy with a butter knife while he hits your neck

>>3329505
>Nicholas the war tank

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BRIGANDINES MOTHERFUCKER

>>3329640
You're an idiot.

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Korean cloth armor.

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Tibetan, possibly Bhutanese or Nepalese.

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Sindh armor.

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>not fighting naked

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>Unironically defending anything except Greenwich

>>3331536
That's not a Greenwich suit in your pic though. It was made in Augsburg.

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Savoyard armor.
And I'm not saying that because I'm a heavy cavalaryboo.

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This is my favorite.

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>>3331547

>>3329767
Rich guys kept their armor safe and secured. Preserving it for centuries.

>>3328976
what is meaning of this circle symbol on helmet?

>>3331597
It's where his waifu kissed him. See the hearts

>>3331600

Kawaiii.

>>3331597
Breathing holes.

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>>3331579

Why?

>>3331606
I agree with him. I really like tabards, because they break up the monotony of the metal

>>3331613
Basically this, I also like the look of open faced helmets more.

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>>3331613
>>3331630

Metal monotone you said?

What exactly do you prefer about open helmets? Aesthetic or practical properties?

>>3329309
>Double-double-axe
>Quad-axe
We have reached peak Fantasy.

>>3331660
Let's be honest here that's not an average suit of armor. But I mostly like the aesthetics, obviously covering more of your head is better. But I also feel like being able to see is pretty important as well.

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>>3333066

Painting plate seems to have been pretty common due to archeological evidence though. And if we are talking about one*favorite* armor set, of course we are looking at an outlier one way or the other.

For better vision you can just open the visor.

>>3329675
That honestly looks like a downgrade

>>3333117

The artistic choice of making the non lorica segmentata guy look like an unshaven homeless guy didn't help lol