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How accurate is Kingdom historically?

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How accurate is Kingdom historically?
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>>3326607
Well, most of their equipment is completely fabricated. But I guess it's more about stylisation than anything else.
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>>3326613
What about the idea of cities that are just square blocks in the middle of nowhere?
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>>3326620
How about lifting a carriage with your penis? That was probably in the actual Chinese texts.
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>>3326620
The cities were giant squares with big walls, but with farmland outside.
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>>3326607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_city_wall
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>>3326797
Oh boy, it looks so fucking retarded. No wonder that they were captured, I guess architectural autism and nice looks are far more important, than actual defensiveness.
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>>3326607
Well for starters, not everyone was that heavily armored.

Even during the height of the Warring States period, the average infantryman of the times is a cunt with a shield, a sword, and some polearm, armored in a leather lamellar cuirass. Elite units got the helmets and were more extensively armored.
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>>3327872
Though there was some pretty interesting discoveries like the Chu Panoply, whose existence was discovered in an dig in 1974-78 though that too was leather. Even the helmet.
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>>3327861
Not really. The Zhou Dynasty - whose architectural ideas remained influential well into the warring states- was fond of grid patterns to maximize transportation and the flow of goods from countryside to market. So having square grid cities was important to them.
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>>3327872
Do they have extensive archaeological finds outside the Qin state?

Would be interesting to see what sort of armaments the northern polities of Zhao or Yan used.
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>>3327896
If there are any, I imagine they would be hard to find, considering the Qin emperor wanted to destroy any history he didn't like.
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>>3327908
>considering the Qin emperor wanted to destroy any history he didn't like
Are you referring to the burning of books and scholars? Because that was pretty much proven to be post-Qin propaganda.
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>>3327896
From the tail end of the Cultural Revolution's climax to the present day, yes. Which was great because Pre-Imperial Shit was spared the retardation of the Red Guards.

Hell it dates back to the mid 60s, beginning with the discovery of a tomb from the Chu Kingdom along with the monumental find of the King Goujian's Sword. Qinshit only began in '74 when some peasants stumbled into the Terra Cotta Army.

Knowledge of Ancient China really is just modern. Prior to it the Chinks totally had no idea what life looked like and only had records of historians to know. Like there are 50s and 70s movies in Taiwan ROC set during the warring states but they're wearing stuff from the Song Dynasty because they have no idea what material culture looked like until the discoveries of 65 to the present day.
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>>3327872
>>3327880
>leather
how does that work? people told me you can't make armor with leather.
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>>3327872
WE
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>>3327924
Yea,I'm aware of excavated swords and the such,armor seems to be much rarer though.

>Like there are 50s and 70s movies in Taiwan ROC set during the warring states but they're wearing stuff from the Song Dynasty because they have no idea what material culture looked like until the discoveries of 65 to the present day.
This probably has to do more with the sort of aesthetics classic late Ming woodblock prints have in mind(phoenix winged helmets combined with cataphract armor while the infantry are a mix of Song and Ming styles).

Unfortunately,modern films are probably worse when it come to historical accuracy.

>>3327927
Rawhide lamellar? iirc armor made from rhinoceros hide was prized above their metal counterparts.
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>>3327861
Cities are usually zoned on defensible territories. On chokepoints between major cities, between two rival territories, natural borders, etc.

The build of the cities, the planning of the cities were done mainly for military considerations.
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>>3327927
Such people are idiots.

In any case the Warring States period's histories state leather was the armor of the day. Metal armor was known to the Ancient Chinese and suits of bronze existed, but these were very expensive and limited only to members of the nobility. The Ancients were far more concerned with fielding bigger and bigger armies as the Warring States ratcheted up in violence and so pretty much thought most of the bronze ought to go to weapons production, not armor.

The average warring state's leather armor was basically sheets of leather riveted together and dried to form a thicc scale. Then these scales are laced to to form a lamellar armor of some sort.

There's even a style of Warring States period armor where leather sheets are pressed into a wooden scale instead. Essentially forming a lamellar armor composed of tiny shields.
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>>3327927
Chinese leather was often made with Rhino (yes a motherfucking rhino) and buffalo hides. They mass produced to such an extent that rhinos became completely wiped off the east.

If you've a seen a well treated cuir bouillon, it's enough to stop a heavy poundage long bow and better yet, Majority of cutting and thrusting weapons used in the warring states era.
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