who was the most talented nazi

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>>3324144
Albert Speer
Good architect + actually having talent unlike the rest.

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>>3324150
This. He had balls to disobey Hitler's orders of scorched earth policy, meaning post-war Germany wasn't as much a desolated wasteland as Hitler wanted it to be.

>>3324159
germany would literally be north korea today if he did. thank god he didn't.

Define talent

Goebbels obviously had a talent for deception and propaganda, Hitler had a charisma for enchanting people

>>3324165
Like Drumpf?

>>3324165
What talents did Himmler and Hoering have, besides sycophancy?

>>3324174
Himmler i believe was a pedant administrator, despite being an occult-obsessed freak

Goering... he had flying talent i assume? He was a WW1 fighter ace

>>3324150
>>3324159
>only nazi to plead guilty at Nuremberg
>got 20 years of being mocked by the rest of the Spandau 7 instead of a rope like everyone else who was found guilty of charges 3 and 4 (except Konstantin von Neurath for some reason)
5/5 bretty gud

>>3324174
they were really good at fucking things up and being autistic

>>3324144
Herman Goring. He could fly planes.

>>3324194
>Herman Goring
yeah wasn't goring in the same squad as the red baron

>>3324190
He didn't plead guilty. If he did he would be sentenced to death right away.

>>3324208
Yeah but only for a short while. He only scored one victory under him. But overall he was a really good flyer.

when did this board turn to shit

>>3324215
admitting a crime lessens the punishment idiot, at least if there is no doubt you did it

or else people would have no incentive to do it

>>3324229
He said not guilty because the trial used the British system. He played a remorseful nazi but he had to say he was not guilty at the start of the trial or it would be over for him as he was tried for all four counts.

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Based Reinhard coming through.

>reichsmarine
>schutzstaffel
>luftwaffe
>headed gestapo
>excellent violinist
>role in final solution
>cool nicknames (blond beast, evil genius...)

>>3324244
>capped by the Czechs

>>3324251
Hey everyone has to do at least one relevant thing during the war.

>>3324174
Goering was the only Nazi with any modicum of popularity with the general populace or the kind of talent that he could have had a real political chance outside the Nazi Party.

He also had a realistic assessment of Germany's capabilities on the workd stage, and what a shitshow Nazi Germany was.

>>3324301
Goering was quite realistic, from what I've read. Of course the unfortunate drug addiction crippled his relevancy.

>>3324327
If by realistic you mean fat opportunist who used Nazi Party to get rich and powerful then yes he was. But then again in that regard every high-ranking Nazi was realistic because every single one of them got rich thanks to Nazism. Hitler became a multi-millionare solely from sold copies of Mein Kampf.

His behavior shortly after his surrender to Allies shows how detached from reality he was. He seriously believed that he would be able to reach an agreement with them by which they'd let him stay in power.

>>3324244
>defeated by a Japanese high school student
lmao

>>3324244
reinhard was a fucking loser tho

>>3324144
Hjalmar Schacht

>>3324679
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht#Miscellany

>>3324657
>Japanese high school student
?

>>3324671
>a fucking loser tho
great insight

>>3324701
There's a Japanese visual novel about a group of immortal demon Nazis led by Heydrich who start killing people in modern day Japan before they're inevitably defeated by the protagonist who's a Japanese high schooler because two nukes were definitely not fucking enough.

>>3324701
the man was the only high ranking nazi who got shot by resistance fighters. If I recall correctely their weapons didn't even work properly, still managed to get himself killed. What a loser.

>>3324712
I see you are man of culture aswell

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Decent aesthetics

>>3324716
it's fairly acknowledged he could have been more careful, but he did get hit by a fucking bomb and still went after them
calling him a loser for dying in that particular way and ignoring past achievements... sounds pretty retarded, anon

>>3324718
>>3324712
>chuunishit
>culture
Heh

>>3324244
>cool nicknames
>moses

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>>3324144
His propaganda was groundbreaking

Leni Riefenstahl was good at movies.

Goebbels was good at propaganda.

Albert Speer was smart and a good architect.

Hjalmar Schacht saved Germany's economy.

Hitler was talented at oratory.

Julius Streicher was good at being a degenerate.

They all were decent at something.

>>3324150
Albert Speer was very talented and smart and finished his PhD at a young age, he could have been some great engineer or scientist if he hadn't turned into a brainlet shill to hitler the manlet

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>>3324144
Speer, Rosenberg or Schirach.

>>3324183
Ernst Udet was a much better pilot than Goering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2CBx7x5GCI

>>3326767
>Blows his brains out on the phone to his gf
>Molders dies in a plane crash on the way to his funeral
Much better than Gorings suicide, more impactful

>>3326750
>a Nazi named Rosenberg
hmmm

Manstein and Guderian were very talented generals.

>>3324679
This, though he wasn't really a Nazi.

>>3327218
This is the reason why I decided against naming him. Though he was their associate.

>>3324244
>cool nicknames: jew

>>3325135
>doesn't like magic tricks

>>3327269
You either don't like Jews, in which case he was clearly against them. Or you do like them, in which case he was a very successful one.

People keep saying Speer was a great architect, but most of what I've seen just seems pompous and overdone.
Do I just have shit taste?

Goebbels created the perfect propaganda machine ever, so good it's still used today

>>3324171
This meme needs to die at the heart of the meaning of the thing

>>3324244
cool nickname: Jewish Mongoloid
t. Canaris

>>3324244
>>3324251
>>3324657
>>3324671
>>3325135
>>3327269
>>3327425
All these butthurt Jews.

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>>3327437
your idol looked like a mongrel jew

What do you Speeraboos think about Adam Tooze's 'wages of destruction?

He tears Albert Speer a new arsehole

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>>3327446
He has a straight roman nose, not a curved Semitic one. His hair is fine, not curly, he has a strong chin, none of his facial characteristics are Semitic.

>>3327461
he literally looks like a jew mongoloid. what the fuck are you on?

>protruding ears
>squinty small eyes
>high forehead
>shitty hairline
>ape lips
in no way he looks nordic

>>3327465
t. jew who wishes he looked half as good

>>3327461
"""Roman""" nosei s literally the Jewish one, Kraut Kikes just did not wanted to admit it.

>>3324716
>survives an car bomb
>comes walking out shooting a pistol at the partisans
>survives that encounter
>collapses from blood loss
>loser

Eh, he schemed his way to a high ranking position so I wouldn't necessarily call him a loser. Still careless though

>>3326786
You do realise surnames with Stein and Berg are Germanic in origin, correct?

>>3327474
i would be an ugly inbred mothefucker if i looked half as "good" as he does
>>3327493
germans and jews are the same people

>>3327490
>comes walking out shooting a pistol
>at the partisans
>blood loss
stop getting your info from Reddit pls

>>3327496
Can't tell if you're trying to troll or if you're retarded

>>3327494
>germans and jews are the same people
So Jews are illegally and incorrectly occupying Palestine and need to return to Germany?

Someone call the UN, anon has figured out the Middle East crisis.

>>3327496
none of these things happened senpai

>>3327507
meant for
>>3327500

>>3327515
Would you care to source that claim then?

>>3327524
i cant give your a source for a thing that never happened

@@3327529
Oh, so you're baiting. Carry on then.

>>3327535
1. autist forgot to put magazine into the gun, so he couldnt shoot
2. comando paratroopers arent partisans
3.he died of poisoning
try harded burger

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>nazism is said to be the least philosophical ideology and even takes pride in this itself

>has literally Heidegger and Schmitt

Turns out nazis were shit at the things they wanted to be good at and good at the things they detested.

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>>3324244
>cool nicknames
>mongoloid kike

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>>3324144
>who was the most talented nazi

Wernher von Braun?

>>3327715
Not a nazi

>>3327738
Woops
Guess he was

My bad

>>3327591
>>nazism is said to be the least philosophical ideology and even takes pride in this itself

Where are you getting this from? National Socialism had a bunch of philosophers. They even had one in the party, Rosenberg.

>>3327453
yeah, waht about that, curious to hear /his/torians bout that

>>3327715
He openly admitted most of his work was based on Goddard. He said if not for Goddard, he wouldn't have been able to do his own work.

>>3327591
While they both supported the Nazis, they weren't really Nazi philisophers.

There was a big group of intellectuals and philosophers in Germany called conservative revolutionaries. Some of them supported the Nazis, others were against them, but national socialism is essentially a very simplified and vulgarized version of their ideas.

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>>3327461
Straight roman nose huh

>>3324208
>>3324194
I was at the Verdun War memorial museum this summer and they actually had Göring listed as one of the top 20 aces in WW1. Somewhere near spot 15-20 IIRC