>implying he wasn't the best thing to ever happen to Russia

he ended existence of russian state so i guess yeah

>>3316483
Well yeah he basically killed Russia for good.

He had great intentions. The russian monarchy was extremely oppressive to peasants, he wanted to make life better for them.

Did he really commit any atrocities like Stalin did anyway?

>>3316480
>hates Russia because it's a medieval shithole and wants to brute force it into modern age
>single handedly manages to drag it's dying carcass and shape it into one of the greastes super powers on the planet
>retarded Russians autistically screech and turn it back into a medival shithole again

Slavs are subhuman and didn't deserve him.

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>>3316514
>The russian monarchy was extremely oppressive to peasants, he wanted to make life better for them.
>takes all their food to feed city people

>>3316523
Source that Lenin actually did that and not Stalin?

>>3316514

>The russian monarchy was extremely oppressive to peasants

The Russian monarchy was already out of power in October 1917. Lenin didn't overthrow the Czar. He overthrew the Duma.

>>3316514
>be red
>bomb the shit out of russian villages, genocide the upper class of peasants and erase them from history
>civil war ends
>"See? Russian peasants had it really bad under the tzar, all were serfs, lived in mudhuts and starved to death! We wuz liberatorz of opressed classes"

>>3316542
Yup, Russia went from constitutional republic to socialism

>>3316535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_communism

>>3316480
It is good that he essentially ended aristocracy and feudalism, even though Russia had been making strides in that area anyway. Shame that he instituted a gommie state that killed millions.

>>3316514
>Did he really commit any atrocities like Stalin did anyway?


One thing that was more positive about him when compared to Stalin was shorter lifespan.

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>Paved the way that could have transformed Russia into a modern constitional monarchy, liberating the common folks while retaining the nation's heritage and traditions
>Decide to kill him off anyway just before reforms creating a more supressive and conservative monarchy

Bravo commies

>>3316480
compare the death counts in 19th century and 20th century Russia

>>3316518
>single handedly manages to drag it's dying carcass and shape it into one of the greastes super powers on the planet
That was Stalin tho desu

>>3316480
terrible for Russia, great of the United States...he did more than any one person that the US would not have a serious rival as super-power.

>>3316480
there could have been better

>>3316690
>Bravo commies
Commies didn't exist at that time.
Interesting that most acts of terror in 1900-1917 were committed by members of Socialist Revolutionary Party,
socialist bourgeois party which controlled the government after February Revolution and was overthrown by October Revolution.
Socialist Revolutionary Party now would be called western liberals, not communists.

>>3316480
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was indeed the best thing to happen to Russia because he created the world's first socialist state, a revolutionary state that wasn't backed by foreign credit or run based on selfish financial interests. From 1917 until the late 1980s, the USSR had no Rothschild bank in control of the country.

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>>3318417
But they don't look very liberal like to me anon

It will be said, "Patriotism has welded mankind into states, and maintains the unity of states." But men are now united in states; that work is done; why now maintain exclusive devotion to one's own state, when this produces terrible evils for all states and nations? For this same patriotism which welded mankind into states is now destroying those same states. If there were but one patriotism say of the English only then it were possible to regard that as conciliatory, or beneficent. But when, as now, there is American patriotism, English, German, French, Russian, all opposed to one another, in this event, patriotism no longer unites, but disunites.

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>>3316480
I think not.

>>3316480
>kill 10 million people in your autistic desire to force your retarded ideology upon the country
>start a five year war only months after greater men have achieved peace
>doom 200 million people to struggle under a totalitarian dictatorship
>great

Hello leftypol

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>>3318443
Do you think liberals can't be extremists?

>>3318489
Communist took power very quickly and never lost control of Central Russia.
It were anticommunists who started the war.

>>3316542
>Lenin didn't overthrow the Czar. He overthrew the Duma.
Russian Provisional Government, not Duma.
One of the most incompetent governments Russia ever had.
Maybe only Seven Boyars from the Time of Troubles were worse.
When Kerensky (head of the government) died in emigration, the Orthodox Church refused to perform funeral ritual for him.

>>3316514
>Did he really commit any atrocities like Stalin did anyway?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
>estimates anywhere from 10 000 to 1.5 million.
They pretty much killed off the upper class, upper middle class, middle class and the educated.

You didnt have to have said or done anything, just being from a well off family made gave you the death sentence. It was the same shit Pol Pot pulled back in the 70's but nobody talks about this because LENIN=GOOD STALIN=BAD

Watch the Chekist (1992), a great film about the production line fashion they killed everyone they thought a threat to the new russia.

>>3318429
Uh Bolsheviks were financed by Wall Street guys.

>>3318527
>It were anticommunists who started the war.
You're an idiot.

>>3318590
No, you are.
Reds were the government, Whites were rebels.

>>3316514
He was a fucking lower bourgeoisie autist who hated the peasants and people richer than him. His only ambition was power

>>3318298
The NEP would have done the same thing but stalin was a even bigger control freak and collectivized everything

>>3318577
>estimates anywhere from 10 000 to 1.5 million.
Wtf, that's a huge difference. Which ones would be the least manipulated sources? I mean, no pro or anti soviet propaganda.

until he died with out ensuring that someone other than Stalin took power.

inb4 slavboos suck Stalin off by talking about how he took a backward nation and made them a world power. Anyone could have done that with the power Stalin had. they also coudl have done it with out slaughtering their own people.

>>3318298
No the Russian empire was industrializing especially during ww1 when the factories were expanding. The communists halted the growth of Russia by 30 years

>>3318763
>slavboos suck Stalin off

Any Slavs besides institutionalized Russians that di that?

>>3318819
do

>>3316480
He was literally an agent who was propped up and supported by a foreign government with the sole intent of destabilizing Russia and causing havoc. That's like saying ISIS in Libya is the best thing to ever happen there.