When did Roman Empire actually fell? 476, 1453, 1806 or 1917 AD?

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>>3316126
>Roman Empire
>Fell

17 AD

>>3316126
476, but the First Roman Empire died in 68AD.

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>>3316158
>implying

1453

>>3316126
Fourth Crusade. It was then re-established and fell again in 1453.

>the l*tins destroyed rome
Ironic, isn't it?

>>3316220
>>3316213
kys greekniggers

>>3316223
What claim do ottomans have to Rome

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>>3316126
>1917

>>3316299
Tsarist Russia was a Third Rome, which means that Roman Empire fell in 1917.

480, with the death of Julius nepos

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>>3316315
>Tsarist Russia was a Third Rome

>>3316126

476

Even as far back as the civil war of the five emperors, the east was culturally becoming its own thing. They were not Romanized in the least.

A Roman empire needs three things: a Republican legacy, a cultural link, and holding the city of Rome itself. No one does this except for Italy.

>>3316126
Define "fell"

>>3316126

The Roman Empire never fell, it has slowly rotted away in the 4-5th century.

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>>3316322

>>3316204
No one's ever going to accept Roman Cockroaches.

>>3316204
>w-we wuz romans n shieeet
kys

>>3316126

The Western Roman Empire fell in 476 AD. The Eastern Roman Empire fell in 1453 AD.

>>3316315
Finland never fell.

>>3316220
If we can't be Romans, no one can!

T. Latin

>>3316431
The Western Roman Empire wasn't Rome. It was the unprofitable, barbarian infested wasteland that the Roman Empire divested itself of in 285, and LARPed around for a couple hundred years before all of the political infrastructure finished rotting away without Roman support.

>>3316126
Couldn't the Holy Roman Catholic Church be considered what's left of the Roman Empire?

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>>3316495
t. Greek larper

>>3316126
Republic of Finland is still independent

>>3316499
Let's see.
Emperor, Pontifex Maximus, to Pope, Pontifex Maximus.
Senate to College of Cardinals.
Throne in Rome to Throne in Rome.
Praetorian Guard to Swiss Guard, eventually.
All roads lead to Rome, to Rome, the eternal city
Submit to us or die, to submit to us or die.

Sounds about right.

>>3316510
The what now?

>>3316541
>child molesters to child molesters

You forget this

>>3316558
Good call.

Built vomitoriums, to became a vomitorium.

>>3316126
Turkey is still here anon

>>3316567
WE

>>3316567
And Islamic as fuck.

>>3316563
You don't know what a vomitorium is do you

>>3316663
You don't know what the color blue is, do you.

>>3316543
after the fall of the Eastern Roman empire, the Byzantine royal family moved to Moscow and declared it the third Rome. Finland is the only successor state to Tsarist Russia, as the commies didn't take it in the Russian Revolution. Therefore, the Republic of Finland is the only true successor to the Roman empire

>>3316694
No they didn't. Andreas Palaiologos sold his royal title and imperial right to the king of France (and then again to the kings Aragon and Castile because he was poor as fuck). Ivan III was married to Andreas' sister, but that meant nothing. Third Rome was a political concept of Russia fulfilling Byzantium's role as a hegemon and protector to other Orthodox nations, not in any way an official transfer of power.

>>3316694
You know the EU is reconstituting the HRE, yes?

>>3316158
unironically this

>>3316126
>1806
>HOLY

>>3316738
>ROMAN

>>3317129
>empire

>>3316738
>>3317129
>>3317133
Found the reddit

>>3316126
>when did the roman empire actually fell
your terrible grammar aside, you won't get a definitive answer. any argument made that the roman empire lasted beyond 476, no matter how articulate is just met with accusations of being a greek LARPer, any argument made that the roman empire fell before or at 476 is met with a wave of byzanboos posting pictures of justinian.

all in all, this was just a bait thread, especially when you sneakily added the dates where the holy roman empire was dissolved and the ottoman empire was dissolved.

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476, then second rome only lasted 2 years.

>>3317162
>Kaiserboo

>>3316204
AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA

>>3316126
(((fell)))

West Rome=>France=>British=>USA
East Rome=>Ottomans=>Muscovy=>Russia=>USSR=>China

>>3316274
>>3316414
>>3317352
The Eastern Orthodox Church recognized Mehmed II as Holy Roman Emperor and he was related to the Byzantine Emperors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodora_Kantakouzene_(wife_of_Orhan)

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>>3319052
>an organization under military occupation by a heathen foreign power "recognizes" that power at gunpoint

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>>3318626

Roman Empire - Italy
Byzantine - Greece/Turkey
3> - Germany

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>>3316204
>Constantinople looks like a 3rd world shithole now
lmao turk niggers can keep the city

>>3316322
But West Rome didn't hold Rome in 476

>>3319371
Such a shame.
Constantinople/Istanbul would've been the Paris (or Rome, lul) of the East had it not fallen to the L*tins or if the Ottofails even bothered to keep the architectural standard up.

>>3316126
Rome fell with Lucius Tarquinius.

>>3317133
>>3317129
>>3316738
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
UPVOTED
LE VOLTAIRE AMIRITE XDDDDD
LE SPOOKS Xd

1806 of course

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dUQWCQKJBsc

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>>3316126
>falling for the "Roman Empire" meme

>>3316587
That doesn't matter. Rome's original religion was Pagan. Christianity is just as alien to the ancient Romans as Islam.

>>3319513
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

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>>3316204
Used to be the most beautiful city in the world and now it looks like shit... And people think racial superiority doesn't exist.

>>3319069

Apart from the "foreign" part that sounds like most Roman successions desu

The Holy-Roman Empire was built over the structure of a german state, the reason why it should not be considered actually roman. Indeed, the last traces of Ceasars state felt in 1453. (Also, sorry for the bad english).

>>3316126
1453, real answer.

>>3319922
Its not shit

>>3316323
Ceased to exist
Became an ex-empire

>>3316126
1461
everyone forgets that Trapezunt was as much a heir of the Eastern Empire as the Nikaia Empire, and that Trapezunt only fell in 1461.

>>3319932
It's the same reason the HRE isn't considered a continuation of the Roman Empire.

>>3319506
This.

When Caracalla gave everyone citizenship. 212 CE.

>>3319506
/thread

>>3322572
>When Tarquinius Superbus was run out of Rome
FTFY

>>3322832
>waiting until the fall of some etruscan monarch
>not realizing that the whole idea went to shit after Romulus was abducted by aliens

>>3316716

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

mfw