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Night of the Long Knives thread

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Discuss consequences of it and everything related, including actual National Socialism.
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>>3315471
What is some recommended reading that discusses pre-war, non-Hitler National Socialism?
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>>3315479
/his/ recommended me several books by Strasser/about strasserism, here is one of them:
https://archive.org/details/OttoStrasserSocial-nationalism
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>>3315471
Redpill me on the Night of the Long Knives
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>>3315504
>Redpill me on the Night of the Long Knives

Goebbels and Himmler convince Hitler that the people calling for a 'second revolution' within National Socialism are a threat to his power, and that he should get rid of them. Simultaneously, Himmler convinces Hitler that the SA needs to be gotten rid of, and uses this to make the SS more powerful.

Himmler is full on autism, and started the holocaust.
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>>3315527
>started the holocaust.
lel
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>>3315482
Interesting, thanks for the link. Seems pretty obvious that Hitler betrayed workers and the party's ideals in order to gain favor with industrialists and aristocrats. wtf I hate Hitler now
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>>3315504
>using the word redpill on /his/

/his/ is not /pol/ and /pol/ is not /his/, stop trying to make the entire website the subject of one board you bumbling faggot.

This thread is already a lost cause, anyway, thanks to OP's image.

If you want to know about NatSoc, read Aqeites Buch and Germany Reborn by Hitler and Goring and then read Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer and Behemoth: The Structure and Practice of National Socialism by Franz Leopold Newmann.
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>>3315654
>Denying that the term red-pill is now part of common parlance
How does it feel to still live in 2015?
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>>3315654
Why are you anti white cucks so triggered?
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>>3315654
>/his/ is not /pol/ and /pol/ is not /his/

But leftypol in /his/ is ok, right?
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>>3315527
Hitler didn't need any convincing. The SA from the beginning was almost impossible to control and never fully loyal to him. This was especially so before Rohm but the problem didn't abate with his appointment to lead it. Goebbels and Himmler certainly benefitted from episode but Hitler knew for a while of the SA threat to his absolute power. It was in Hitler's nature to procrastinate though so he only took action when had festered to a critical point.
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>>3316087
>anti-white

why do /pol/tards have such a victim mentality? are you that jealous of minorities and gays?
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>>3315471

STRASSERISM IS NOT NATIONAL SOCIALISM, BUT COMMUNISM UNDER THE GUISE OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
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>>3315527
>>3315544

It kinda was in that Hitler carried out brazen acts of murder without the slightest bit of due process and got away with it.

It also showed the SS would obey any command given to them, including killing their own comrades. From that point on, getting them to kill Jews, Gypsies and other perceived racial enemies was easy.
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>>3315471

How many of the killings were carried out in a publicly visible setting (the victim is shot dead in their office, home, on the street etc.) as opposed to be arrested and then killed out of sight in a prison?

On television and film, they tend to show the victims being killed in their home or at work rather than in prisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-A4gLFwKs8

There's even an Italian movie where SS men in full uniform armed with MP40s kill dozens of SA men attending a party in broad daylight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qywfTjNBejk

I'm curious to know if there's any truth in these portrayals (SS men in uniform killing the victims in full view of the public) or if it's just a bunch of overdramatic crap.
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>>3317764

It depended on the area. Generally if it was a small European village, you could depend on them being pretty racist and they murdere them in public view. There are a bunch of accounts of small towns in Lithuania tried to help and making a huge spectacle of watching nazis kill people. Cities on the other hand were more cosmopolitan, so nazis often had to forcibly remove the Jews from the city to a rural area before killing them. Here's an account below, from Kaunas in Lithuania, then a village.

"A young man – he must have been a Lithuanian – with rolled-up sleeves was armed with an iron crowbar. He dragged out one man at a time from the group and struck him with the crowbar with one or more blows on the back of his head. Within three quarters of an hour he had beaten to death the entire group of forty-five to fifty people in this way. The young man put the crowbar to one side, fetched an accordion and went and stood on the mountain of corpses and played the Lithuanian national anthem. I was informed by bystanders that this was the Lithuanian national anthem. After each man had been killed they began to clap and when the national anthem started up they joined in singing and clapping. In the front row there were women with small children in their arms who stayed there right until the end of the whole proceedings."
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>>3317676
it's national bolshevism, cuck. communism unironically been tried
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>>3317764
strasser and von schleicher were killed on the spot
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>>3318066
hasn't been tried
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>>3315654
stop falseflagging
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>>3317676
Communism entails socialism.
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>>3318016

I was referring specifically to the Night of the Long Knives, at a time when Hitler still had to nominally res the rule of law (lest he earn the ire of President Hindenburg).
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>>3316464
>nazism and communism are the only possible options hurrrr
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>>3318066
The Strassers have been appropriated by natbol schizophrenia
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Strasser did nothing wrong
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>>3315527
This is wrong on all accounts. Goebbels was initially a strasserist and only much later defected to Hitler. Himmler was indeed a complete cock mongler, but he alone wasn't behind the purge. It was the industrialists, the military brass and the Junker noblemen who felt the socialist wing of the NSDAP was a threat to their existence, so they basically gave Hitler an ultimatum, either he purges the socialists, or Hindenburg will call for martial law and depose Hitler.
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>>3315544
Hitler wanted to do something about the Jews. Himmler proposed that bullets are cheaper than tickets to Madagascar or Palestine.
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>>3321186
>Goebbels was initially a strasserist and only much later defected to Hitler.

Goebbels was a Strasserite for like a year in 1925, after that he jumped on board with Hitler and undermined Strasser from the late 20s until his death.
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>>3318139
You are both politically and linguistically illiterate.
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>>3321189
Ironically in the end Himmler wanted to save his ass and stopped the Jew transports in direct violation of Hitler's orders and tried negotiating a peace treaty with the Allies separately from Hitler. This infuriated Hitler so much he immidiately declared him a traitor and ordered him arrested.
I have no fucking idea how people who praise Hitler can praised Himmler too.
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>>3321295
He's correct, even though he doesn't mean it.
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>>3317764
IIRC Rohm was executed in the hotel where they found him
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>>3317676
>2017
>not being a Strasserite
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