How would you fix this?

All states with oceanic coasts must leave the union and form their own United States of retardistan, and leave us reasonable people alone

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>>3314435
what about greenland?

>>3314435
>Let's compress New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, three states of 19.75 million, 8.9 million and 12.78 million respectively into a megastate of 41 million for whatever reason
>but North Dakota and South Dakota can stay separate, that's fine.
>California's too big, break her up
>but Texas is fine as it is.
>Also let's throw Nevada into the state with a Mormon name even though less than 7% of the state is Mormon
The fuck is this map?

>>3314435
>Maine not in New England

DELETE THIS

>>3314487
>>3314435
oh hell, I didn't notice that the Empire State also includes Maryland and Delaware, for a grand total of 48 million souls all in one massive administrative unit. Empire State indeed.

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>>3314435
>Artistically split New England for no real reason

It's shit.

>>3314435
>that flag
grimey

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>>3314431

>>3314515
>>3314487

Britain has 65 million in a smaller area.

>>3314550
Britain is also its' own country.

>>3314558

England has ~55 million in a MUCH smaller area.

>>3314565
Ahem. Might I repeat:

IT'S ITS' OWN FUCKING NATIONSTATE THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN ELECTORAL COLLEGE BASED ON STATE POPULATION.

Thank you for your attention.

>>3314565
It doesn't change the fact that the Empire State is easily the largest state in this nation, having one and a half times the population of Texas, the second largest state. You could put together Deseret, COlorado, Midland, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Both Dakotas and Montezuma and you'd still have fewer people, and yet the Dakotas are separated for entirely unknown reasons.

>>3314529
Didn't expect to see a crimsons skies fan here. You play the original PC game or the meme xbox arcade one?

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>>3314431
Stop the hate, separate.

>>3314435
>getting rid of Ohio
Ohio has the most aesthetic borders

East of Missipi goes to Spain and West of it goes to England

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Because nobody has posted a genuine answer

>US never establishes itself as a single country

>only as the "Union of America", in the way that the EU operates

>each of these 20 "states" operate as an independent, semi-autonomous nation

>functions akin to something inbetween a modern US State and a small European nation, with travel, trade, culture and so on equally as median

>i.e. travel is relatively free and easy if you have the proper papers, the trade is relatively straightforward with perhaps more stringent negotiations, and so on, and your nation governs in a more Westphalian sovereignty kind of way


Now maybe you could take pride in where you come from, feel akin to your neighbor

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>>3314431
Metropolitan statistical areas. All regions which form a cohesive metropolis get to legislate together without influence from or involvement with unconnected locations because of obsolete land title deeds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

>>3314456
Don't mix Danish clay into the shit show that is Northern America.

>>3314431
Make ALL THE STATES INTO SQUARES!

>>3314604
This. But give them the coasts too.

>>3316343
Scioto represent

>>3316343
Salt Lake here, though the place I work would be Rainier I think...

>>3314529
shouldn't "appalachian territory" actually include all of appalachia?
well over half is missing.

>>3314629
The only serious separation movements in North America are Quebec and Texas. The rest are meme tier especially bullshit like Cascadia

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>>3315177
>Huron owns traditional Iroquois land
How about no?

The only problem with the United States is that the Delmarva peninsula isn't its own state. Feels bad.

>>3316343

>Tampa Bay
>all that land

aw shiet nigga we empire now.

give it Canada

>>3314435

the great state of Pennsylvania rejects your terms

>>3314487
Its a troll map man, dont think about it to hard.

>Three british colombias
>Florida creeping north
>Whatever the fuck is going on with Illinois

>>3314435
*collapses economically*

>>3316343
>Allegheny with Pittsburgh as the capitol

almost perfect map desu, 9/10. Condence Yerba and Buena, make Hawaii and Alaska independent and its exactly as the US should be

>>3314435
I feel like this (and most other maps) shift shit around just for the hell of it.

>>3314529
way underrated game

>>3316343
Fucking disgusting.

>>3315183
Straight outta the UN Agenda 21

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search your heart, you know it is the answer

>>3317777
>muh tanks
also
>jEW1zyv

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>>3317777

>not wanting to live in a post commie failure America.

>>3317777
Damn, as someone in Washington I would be so stoked if our state was replaced with Cascadia, it sounds way cooler and makes more sense.

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Oldie but goodie

>>3314435
It's an absolute kind of disgusting

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>>3316343

> Hawaii belongs to Oregon
> California chopped up into little pieces
> States named 'Firelands', 'King', and 'Big Thicket'
> No north/south bullshit

Very nice.

>>3315183
>LA annexing Vegas and the Central Coast

Disgusting

>>3317972
The midwest and florida voted for Trump. BTFO

>>3314629
>Quebec
>Prairie province

>>3316596
Even Texas is pretty meme-tier, the only one to gain any traction in recent decades has been Quebec.

>>3316343
I am a proud canavral man
Hail disney

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>>3316343
As a resident of the Ozarks, I've always hated this map. Pic related is the Ozarks, not whatever shitfest that map uses our name for.

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>>3316343
>Columbia
>my home city is the capitol
This pleases me

>>3318279
also, just for laughs lets find out which color has the most /his/ users.

im VA so red

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>>3316596
L O FUCKING L

Vermont was a country longer than Texas dude.

Nice try

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>>3318284
>>3318279

Piss yellow PAfag here

>>3318279
Stone gray disney lad here

>>3314572

England is not a nationstate you dense faggot.

>>3314578
>It doesn't change the fact that the Empire State is easily the largest state in this nation, having one and a half times the population of Texas, the second largest state.

So?

>>3318539
England is a nation state. UK is not.

>>3318561
>England is a nation state

No, it isn't. It's a nation WITHIN a state, it is not itself a state. It doesn't even have its own legislature, something Scotland DOES have.

>>3314435
>Upstate New York and most of Pennsylvania go to New England
>Florida gets split between South Dixie and a single state for the Caribbean islands
>DFW, Austin, and New Orleans break off into a separate state
>Dakotas get merged
>Quebec gets nuked
Fixed.

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Fixed.

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>>3318671

Template

>>3314431
Nuke everywhere that isn't Montana

>>3314435
>Kentucky
>Dixie

Enough of this meme

>>3316343
The color is so similar, I can't tell if New York City is part of Throg's neck? If not, then the whole fucking country consists of Stamford, Bridgeport and Westchester and I want to kill myself. If yes, it also include Yonkers and NYC, and I REALLY want to kill myself.

>>3317972
>Man, I can't understand why they still don't vote for us!

>>3316596
You've never heard of the EZLN, have you?

>>3316343
I would be okay with this if only to say that I live in the firelands, cool fucking name. decent wow raid.

>>3314435
>restore original borders of Acadia
>call it terra nova instead of what it is

>>3318671
I'd push the split west using the plains as the natural division.

>>3317972
>why won't those fucking racist hick flyover redneck ASSHOLES vote democrat? what a bunch of retards. also all white men should be killed

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>>3314431
Here you go

>>3314431


By correctly showing that the lower 48 includes territory north of the 49th, which is not currently reflected in the picture.*

*Said territory is that of the northernmost county in the United States.

>>3315177

>t. I have never read the Federaist Papers

>>3316797

Pennsylvania is not a state.

>>3319165
Awww man not Louisiana...

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>>3319182
>Pennsylvania is not a state.
You can really claim anything nowadays huh kiddos

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>>3316343
>the great State of Gary

>>3319194

>he doesn't understand

Keep digging the hole.

this place is a gold mine interesting thing happen when you ask such a simple yet complex question

also to hell with cascadia like hell i am gonna merge my state with the shit hole that is California to form a country also i love the train wreck that is america there is nothing to fix riots and sjws terrorism who care i like to enjoy my self

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Reinvent the empire

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Here's North America in my alt-his.
The US succeeds in 1812, and releases Quebec as an ally, giving them a bit of What's now Maine and New Brunswick in exchange for St. Pierre and Miquelon, which France gifted to Quebec upon her independence. The US and the UK have a deal regarding Newfoundland, where they rule it jointly.
At this time, also, slavery is outlawed in the US, and slaves are moved to Britain's Caribbean colonies. Later on, other Caribbean colonies of other countries are united as one black country, and nearly all blacks in the Americas live there. Other countries own much of the land there, but it's all officially under its own rule. Named Afrocaribbia, speaks Arabic.
Soon after Texas joins the US, civil war breaks out over something else. Maybe regarding being allied with Britain. Quebec betrays the US, take Ontario, and the CSA successfully secedes. All three make a deal regarding the land to the west of the Mississippi, and that land becomes a new country for Indians.
Also, the CSA eventually changes its language to German, to completely cut ties with the USA, and because of its huge influx of Germans. The CSA and USA change their names to The Confederated American States of Dixieland, and The Republic of the United American States of Yankeedom, respectively. Quebec is just Quebec.
Cont

>>3319208
The Indian country, I'll call it Plainsland for now, has a deal with its neighbors, where it will rent out land to them, which they rent out to any of their citizens who want to live over there and farm, log, mine, Etc. It has about an equal number of Indian citizens, and white non-citizens in its borders.
California secedes from Mexico, and gets hold of all of the land currently Yellow or Tan. The Tan land gets filled with Mormon-like people, and secedes from California to become a Theocracy.
Plainsland has no official language, California speaks Spanish, Deseret speaks some made-up language, Alaska speak Russian. The latter three are all white, with California the least so.
Central America stays united, and wins some land from Mexico. Cuba and the Bahamas, as it is know, unites somehow.
Mexico loses many of its influential white Spaniards to California, and, spurred by its recent humiliations, has a nationalist revolution. It changes its language to some Aztec one, and becomes a monarchy. Soon after, Central America changes its language to some Mayan language. Cuba stays Spanish-speaking.
Lastly, Alaska and Hawaii. After Britain lost Canada, Russia took even more land, not fearing losing it to Britain. But during the Russian revolution, the next in line to the throne is in Alaska. He forms the Tsardom of Alaska, and gets an influx of Russian monarchists. The Kingdom of Hawaii takes over most Pacific islands, with support from Australia, which becomes Britain's biggest colony after losing Canada, and take the US' place in opening Japan.

>>3319209
Also, Cuba and the Bahamas gets Bermuda from Britain, Greenland stay Danish, and Yankeedom holds onto even more Virginia in this one.
And that's just North America.
Even if it's kinda stupid, just look at those sexy borders. And tell me you don't like the idea of more languages on the continent.

>>3314593
Played the Xbox version first, before finding out about the PC one.

I MUST HAVE MY GROß-CASCADIA

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>>3319212
Slightly fixed version.
Pleas rate.

>>3318284
Navy blue.

>>3314431
Split the big cities off into their own districts.
Now they are fixes

>>3315177
This was tried before. It sucked and states nearly went to war with each other. It was very quickly replaced with the union.

>>3316343
FIRELANDS BOYS

>Combine the Dakotas
>Combine the Carolinas
>Combine the Virginias
>Combine NM & AZ
>Combine Wyoming and Colorado
>Combine Connecticut and Rhode Island

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>>3314435
>tobasco

>>3316343
M A M M O T H
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>>3314431
Like this dont mind the autistic name "Greater NAZI Reich" Man in the High Castle gived to the 3rd Reich also all reds here GTFO i dont want to see Red america !!

>>3319105

Mississippi seems like the natural boundary, a line thru the plains is asking for generations of conflict.

>>3319190
>Oh no! My disease-infested literal swamp is gone!

>>3320300
Man in the High Castle is retarded and you should feel bad for liking it.

>>3315183
I don't think you've ever been to these places, they're not a continuous urban zone. There's literally miles upon miles of cornfields between Indianapolis or Chicago and miles upon miles of desert between LA and Las Vegas (what the fuck, how are they in the same zone to begin with).

>>3320528
>I don't think you've ever been to these places, they're not a continuous urban zone.

You obviously can't read, so let me explain: REGION does not mean URBAN.

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>>3314431

I made a /his/ poll to find out what state yous are from
Because it sounds like a lot of you fuckers are from Ohio
https://www.poll-maker.com/poll1861572xad386AE8-50?s=res

>>3316343
>the year 2017
>not living in Mesabi

>>3314431
Wisconsin owning the UP, for one....

>>3315214
only good answer

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Go

>>3321658
God save the Queen*

>>3319177
Federalist Papers are a huge meme. It's literally people jerking over Athenian trade supremacies and autistic screeching at imperial powers absorbing smaller ones. Democracy is only very rarely mentioned.

>>3314435
>Loyalist C*nadians taking Maine from New England AND thinking they wouldn't get anschlussed

>>3316343
Who here /shiprock/?

>>3317777
>no American Socialist Republic of Gary
D R O P P E D
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>>3314431
Why do most people want the US to balkanize without a proper understanding of it and how the Americans rely on one another to survive and stop shit wars from breaking out all the time?

>>3320528
Yeah but they'd make an ideal contingent since they share similar cultures and political ideals. I guess just like less populated states atm the smaller metro areas would have less electoral power. Right now we have situations where rural areas are subject to the urban centers' will or the state has to provide funding for distant communities. Like this people people would be more naturally grouped together instead of some by old land deeds. The consequence may be for communities that rely on the support of the urban centers but it would probably be for the better if communities closer to them could rely on eachother more and make their on political decisions.

>>3323092
Oh, I only post in these threads because I find it an interesting idea, plus, I like nice-looking maps.
I'd never really want us to balkanize.

Join the US and Canada and remove all subdivisions

>>3320300
>no frog or spanish on that map
Truly the best timeline.

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>>3317777
>tfw hate socialism
>tfw quads
>tfw live in a place now called "paine"

why kek?

>>3318094
It's just a name man, most of illinois isn't right around the illinois river.

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>>3314431
I have properly fixed the United States.

>>3320774
How is Vegas the same region as Los Angeles? it literally makes no sense to put them together, you might as well throw Phoenix in the mix.

>>3323094
>cultures and political ideals
They honestly don't. Especially not places like Florida.

>>3323149
>>3323149
South Florida seems to lean in a particular direction and the same can be said for southern Cali and the Northeast. There are plenty of communities not in urban and financial cores that are tired of being subject to the state government's whim. If an outlying community wants to join a particular region they could be allowed the choice to democratically elect to do so.

>all this flabbergasting over Vegas
Their existence is literally dependent on transplants, celebrities, and tourists from Cali and elsewhere.

>>3323207
>Jacksonville: anglophone, protestant white+black, overwhelmingly Republican, generic deep south/dixie culture
>Miami: hispanic, liberal as fuck, mostly catholic, Cuban/Dominican/Haitian culture
>Tampa: nothing but corn fed midwestern transplants
Tell me again how Florida forms one block culturally and politically.

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>>3323216
Florida may be the one exception to the rest of the US and even then all those communities may still economically connected. In any case if union is that much of a problem they can remain in their respective metro areas.

>>3323092
Probably because, from their perspective, it looks like everybody in the US hates each other and the want to speculate on what things would look like when said people have enough and split from everyone else.

>>3321756

t. I have never read the Federalist Papers, or if I have, then I have misunderstood their historical and philosophical significance because I got stuck aroun that bit in the middle

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>>3314431
>tfw Berzelius Windrip won't give you your $5000

>>3323092

Because most people in the world are not Americans, and so they perceive a diminution of American power as being advantageous to themselves.

Further, they have not read and properly understood the Federalist papers, as I have stressed and continue to stress.

>>3323477
>Further, they have not read and properly understood the Federalist papers

That's not saying much. Most Americans today haven't read, nor properly understand the Federalist papers.

>>3323125
Lol

>>3323469
No, I stand by my point. Federalist papers glorify local power over far flung powers. If said local powers are democratic or not however, is the least of their worries.

>>3315183
yesssss girlllllll

>>3323216
:C some transplants are from new york.....and cali........and other places

>>3323440
You can't have parts of Florida underwater when you did nothing to the coasts of any other gulf coast state