What ancient-to-medieval armour was the most evil looking?

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>>3302819

Probably the Teutonic knights with their horned helmets.

>>3302819
Those roman-byzantine masked helmets could get creepy.

>>3302852
I don't think they wore such helmets to battle.

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Tibetan

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>>3302819
No, but it was the most metal.

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Savoyard armour with gnarly face visors.

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>>3302890

You are a cͬoͤoͭlͣgͬuͩy

> 400 BC you athiest faggot

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BEHOLD

>>3302852
bagina :-DD

>>3303714
wtf

>>3302883
Talk about nightmare fuel.

>>3302890
inb4 some smartass points out that 16th century armor used the most metal.

>>3303735
lol

>>3303802
Blacksmiths were still working out the kinks in armor production in the early bronze age.

>>3302819
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary#/media/File:Knight_of_black_army.png

>>3302890
lol this pic is such an extreme generalization

>>3303855
>Hungary cuts taxes by 80%
>they have to disband the army
>less than a half century later they are literal slaves of the Ottomans all because they wanted more "economic freedom"

why does anyone take libertarianism seriously?

whatever the frog wore

>>3303875

Yeah holy shit, greece to rome to iberian(?) to norman...

>>3303980
dude it wasn't real capitalism lmao

>>3302878
Great helms weren't work while fighting, but during the charge to protect against projectiles. They would wear a bascinet underneath and ditch the great helm once they got in combat

>>3303664
Did someone trigger you or something?

>>3303802
Looks like one of those mycenaean panoplies

>>3303827
>inb4 some smartass points out that 16th century armor used the most metal.
>not15th
the 16th century guy only has a cuirass and helmet, pseud.

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Blackened gothic armor looks pretty badass. I don't know how historically accurate these are though, these are just reproductions.

>>3304606
Batman?

>>3304714
Bane?

>>3304561
1500s is the sixteenth century u mongloid not the 1600s.

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>>3302819
Minimal armor. They either are really good at fighting and require little or are savage enough to not fear death

>>3303714

WITH MY SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET!

>>3303714
Bronze age EOD specialist, wear big armour, poke it with a stick

>>3304606
Probably scared the shit outta the opposing peasant levies when they showed up cresting the ridgeline.

>>3303714
SHOO SHOO SEA PEOPLE

>>3305175
i'm sure this was actually a pretty significant aspect of why it would be worn

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dismounted cataphracts

>>3304795
>15=16

Retard detected

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>>3303980
>why does anyone take libertarianism seriously?
Hardly anybody does. They're like, less than 1% of all right-wingers. In the carnival that is Big-tent conservatism, they're the freak show.

Sometimes conventional right-wingers have dalliances with libertarianism, but when the next big right-wing fad comes along, they'll go back to being useful idiots among the yuppie class while all the grown up conservatives focus on their core demographics of religious voters and people in government uniforms.

>>3305117
I'd say a little bit of both anon

>>3305334
What about the time between 0-100 AD?
Checkmate

>>3305690
0

>>3305690
It's the zeroth century, bruh

>>3303714
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE

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>>3303980
> current year
> thinking developed nations are going to go to war with each other

>>3305240
i mean i know historically dismounted cataphracts were a real thing across multiple cultures but it is still so damn strange to think about. also on that topic (sorta), I'm surprised that the West didn't really take to the cataphract style of heavy cavalry much, what's up with that? am I overestimating how tactically useful cataphract style cavalry would have been in ancient/medieval armies? it seems really really useful in certain crucial scenarios in battle to potentially drastically reduce casualties when charging

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Roman Arcani

>>3303980
>slaves
>not valued citizens

>>3302890
Not even High School level.

>>3305787
>Praetorians

>>3305777
Heavy armored cavalry or infantry only develops if the economic situation is correct, like feudal landlords amassing lots of wealth

Dark ages Europe couldn't do that.

Yes dark ages, 500-1000 you faggots.

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>>3303714
bronze age was some mad max shit

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>>3306008
What makes iron superior to bronze?

>>3306036
It's cheaper

>>3306036
Iron is stronger.

>>3304606
I remember mattys interviewing the guy from the armor collection, and at some point he says black armor were quite common in some period

>>3302883
Dope

>>3304719
For you?

>>3305334
That's not how that works bud...

>>3305777
Didn't Rome and Byzantium have them?

>>3305994
What about them?

>>3306037
>>3306038
I think he was being sarcastic guys

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>>3306038
As if.
Iron is much more brittle than bronze. The only benefits pure iron has against bronze is that it stays sharper longer and that it's cheaper (as >>3306037 already pointed out). That's why bronze weapons only dropped out of use after steel, which is superior to both, was invented.

>>3306036
While >>3306037 and >>3306038 are both true, they forgot the fact that because it's a simpler process, you're less subject to economic disruptions. Part of the bronze age collapse had to do with disruptions in tin mining.

>>3305175

>tfw nilgaardian knights genocide your village for the 10th time that year

>>3306038
>"no."
Steel certainly is far superior to bronze in just about every way, but the only real edge that plain old iron has (aside from being a little lighter) is that it's far, far more common. Bronze is an alloy of tin and copper, which are almost never found in the same place, while iron needs no other mineral and can be found all over the place.

>>3305787
>2 swords

>>3307677
The Dimachaerus did that, they were a kind of gladiator than fought without shield and two swords.

>>3304503
Ditch it where? Did They just drop it on the ground, or hook on their saddle?

>>3303714
When I'm reading the Iliad and it says things like Achilles' armour was so encompassing that nobody'd be able to tell it was Patroclus wearing it, is this the shit I should've been picturing?

>>3307827
well, you'd also have a hard time telling who it is under a greek helmet, but yes.
This is also why people like Achilles and Hector used chariots. Big heavy armour.

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>>3302819
This shit

>>3307857
Where is this from? It makes me think of that weird Mexican la Muerte stuff.

>>3307896
german ritter savoyard helmet

>>3307857
I was just trying to find a pic of this. The absolute GOAT

>>3307812
Most depictions show them hanging by straps while in a fight, so either makes sense

>>3304606
>>3306054
Black armor was common in the 16th and 17th century because the armored warriors of that period didn't have retinues of servants to polish it. Its blackened to prevent rust.

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>>3306008
This

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>>3305787
I don't know what's shitter about that picture: the history or the art. Why the fuck would you post some lame shit like that?

>>3307742
They were a novelty gladiator, not particularly common

Gladiators were an investment which their pit bosses would have been loath to send hundreds of miles away to go die in a field. At the most, the army would use them to train legionaries in swordsmanship. 1v1 is totally different beast from a pitched melee

>>3305187
underrated

>>3305138
Hahahahaha my man

>>3302878
Psychological effect. Very important if you want to break open a spear wall.

>>3308024
30 years war?

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some of the stylized samurai masks are pretty spooky

>>3306036
Iron is more plentiful. Bronze requires copper and tin together or long trade routes.
Iron can be sharpened. Last I read, if your bronze sword was blunt, you had to recast the damn thing.

However, Iron is prone to rust. Bronze is not.
Bronze can be cast. Iron cannot.
Bronze looks nice.

Take what I am saying with a grain of salt because I am likely mistaken.

>>3305524
was Stalin a right-winger anon? because he was in some ways very conservative an as authoritarian as the very nazis.

>>3305787
>hey titus, why does mom let you have TWO swords?

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>>3309891
By the 1930's the entire socialist/communist movement had been taken over by ultra-nationalists posing as leftists, both in Germany and in Russia.

>>3310099
So Stalinism can be considered as "left fascism" because I seen many lefties said nationalism is related to "Idpol" therefore national identity is reactionary and fascist.

>>3302883
That's some prop armor for a Chink movie, idiot.

>>3304561

>calls others pseuds
>doesn't know how dates work

Pottery.

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>>3302819
ANGER

>>3304606
>>3306054
>>3308881


Black armour was around but probably not THAT black. This is a chemical process that uses modern materials to stain the metal. You can heat treat metal to make it blue and there are ways of leaving it black from the forge and then polishing and waxing it, but it's not quite the same. The guy who brought Toby Capwell's famous black English armour had it polished up to plain, white steel again because such a finish isn't authentic.

>>3309945
My sides

>>3305117
Or they're just broke

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>>3302819
**THROAT SINGING INTENSIFIES**

>>3311883
Holy shit

>>3311883
You have a point there

>>3312130
buh dum tss

>>3306036
stronger, lighter, more abundant, easier to maintain, literaly everything.

>>3305138
>spear and magic helmet

Ayyy

>>3307677
Dimachaerus were a thing anon, also not farfetched that some dude praetorian knew how to fight with two swords

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>>3304606
Hey, I remember that guy

>>3315055
*glorp*

>>3305761
But anon, what about North Korea? Surely nuclear war is on the horizon

>>3305777
Rome used cataphracts.
Later medieval Europe used knights.

>>3315055
Heh, I remember that comic.

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>>3302883
>Tibetan
Tibetans used lamellar/mail not the abomination you posted.

>>3315379
>lamellar
What do you think that "abomination" is?

>>3311119
How do they polish it back to plain metal? I thought the blackening process was permanent.

>>3305240
are these roman?

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>>3316281
>Are cataphracts Roman?

>>3311883
so how exactly did this help with hunting bears? did it keep them from mauling you cause they didn't want to poke their paws on the spikes?

>>3303714
KILL THE WABBIT

>>3316884
kek

>>3316281
Seleucid, notice the anchor on the shields

>>3305524
That comic has a huge jump from the 2nd to 3rd sentence that libertarians don't make, so I'm not sure what its point is.

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>>3318334
Most libertarians are opposed to the idea of a union, at least one which uses the state to coerce industry into hiring union labor, but any other kind of union is effectively toothless.

So if a libertarian society were attempted, they would necessarily need to use their state to reign in trade unions.

And the vast majority of right-wingers have essentially banished anyone who wouldn't use the state to control immigration

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>>3303714
>Over protective armor
>No shoes
why

>>3302926
Can you imagine getting your dick pinched between those two thigh pieces?

>>3318334
Libertarians can be against abortion and still be libertarian. They're against murder after all.

I came to join the revolution, not to kill the Cambodian people. Look at me now. Am I a violent person? No. So, as far as my conscience and my mission were concerned, there was no problem.

Pol Pot

>>3311883
When Hellraiser cosplay becomes a national sport.

>>3315328
ah now I remember, even before the West/East split, Trajan founded the first Roman cataphract unit supposedly. also interesting to see that knights wouldn't start heavily armoring their horses til many centuries later

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>>3305138
fucking killed me

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>>3315944
>What do you think that "abomination" is?
Unlike the prop,Tibetan lamellars opened from the front.

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>>3302890
>Le 1600s Armor example is always the infantry half armor.

>>3307347
this

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its fake, but id shit myself if this guy was coming at me.

>>3319184
Like any Sigmar fearing man, for that matter.

>>3304606
Nilfgaard

>>3316844
well duh

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Cataphracts, I mean look at those fuckers

>>3302883
Except that's Chinese.

>>3319791
No it's not. Chinese lamellar is bound very different to Tibetan lamellar.

>>3319796
No, it's from some Chinese movie.

>>3311883
I love this.

>>3311115
Is this a reconstruction of Tang or Song dynasty armor? Pretty cool.

>>3311883
This isn't real. It's part of an art exhibit in the Menil Collection called Wunderkammer. It would be impossible to hunt a bear in this type of armor.

>>3319826
Disappointed but not surprised.

>>3319798
That's fucking worse. I hope they step up their game.

>>3319815
Song Dynasty. Check out Dragon's Armoury.
http://dragonsarmory.blogspot.com/

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>>3303714

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>>3302819
Wearing no armor at all.

>>3319867
what the fuck is their problem

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I've always had a thing for mail aventails and coifs that cover the face.

>>3319870

Romans fear the penis warrior

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>>3319881

>>3302852
Fpbp