*blocks your empire* Psshh, nothing personnel

>>3287589
how do they do it? america the 3rd one in a row now

>>3287594

They live there.

>>3287589
>Nothing but dusty mountains and desert ooga boogas
No one wants it t b h. If it weren't for the poppy fields I don't think anyone would care

>>3287594
Extremely mountainous and remote, difficult to access inland, no sea port to serve as a base for an imperial power, very ruralised, no single capital or centre of control, local people are extremely warlike and have ancient warlike traditions, mountainous environment makes it difficult to hold areas to command and project control from, also difficult to carry out search and destroy operations because of huge mountains and caves network.

Basically a guerrilla fighters wet dream and an occupiers nightmare. Like Vietnam, but replace jungles with mountains and caves

>>3287616
>cross roads of empires
>not wanting to control trading posts to India, Russia, and china
>not caring about prized precious gems like lapis lazuli

>>3287589
>Who are the Persians?
>Who is Alexander the Great?
>Whi are the Persians again?
>Who are the Mongols
>Who are the Persians again?
If anything Afghanistan is a door mat for empires.

>>3287629
Afghans are Persians dummy. Half the dynasties that controlled Iran were from Central Asia:
>parthians
>timurids
>afsharid
>qajar

The only actual ethnically ""Persian"" dynasties were the Achaemenids, Sassanians and Pahlavi, and they conquer Afghanistan

>>3287589
Afghanistan being the bane of empires is a modern meme. Before they decided to do a beta uprising and get an empire for themselves around the 18th century the region was a hooker that empires passed to each other constantly.

>>3287657
Afghans are not persians dude what the fuck. Like, it's only the native language for half the country and within this group you have guys like mongols who speak persian for whatever reason. Not to mention that afghan was just pashtun before the age of modern nationalism.

>>3287657
>Afghans are Persians dummy.
Speaking a lingua franca =/= you're that ethnicity

>>3287616
>No one wants it t b h.
nobody wants to let go either
>Brit
>Rus
>US
OP says *blocks your empire* but it could as well be *blocks and destroys your empire because you just can't let go and leave*

>>3287657
Afghani Pashtuns are the Scots to the Persians' British. They've been dominated by the Persians for thousands of years.

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>>3287589
Hmmmmmmmm pic related really makes you go mmmmmmhhhmmmmmmm doesn't it?

>>3287833

Wow. I wonder why they don't just buy the opium crop from them for pharmaceuticals like they do with the opium crop from Turkey.

>>3287706
>>3287718
>>3287819

If you're talking about Persians as an ethnic group, then most dynasties that governed Iran weren't even Persian. The only truly ethnic Persian dynasty since the 700 AD were the Pahlavi dynasty, and they never conquered Afghanistan.

Every other dynasty has been Turkic, Azeri, Kurdish, or some other mixed form of central Asian.

Even today's supreme leader Khamenei is Azeri Turk, not ethnic Persian

>>3287843
It's almost like a certain government in the world is in control of the drug trade...or more specifically a certain government agency. It's almost like they are involved in smuggling illicit drugs into their own country or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

>>3287594
>Geography
>Ethnic, linguistic, religious and tribal variation rendering the populous wary of foreigners and distrustful of each other.
>No concept of a central government and how such a thing should function.
>Conflict is pretty much a means to alleviate boredom.

>>3287844
To be quite honest with you, you can say that about a lot of european nations as well.

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MY PASHTUN PRIDE I WILL NOT HIDE
>Afghan AMA
>>3287718
I'd say we're more like "eastern persians" which isn't really a thing but could be good descriptor

>>3287946
You could do this picture with literally every country. And the Hotaki were fucking afghans who were literally conquered by foreigners. What the fuck.

>>3287962
t. paki
Fuck you
Have fun watching your women get COLONIZE'd

>>3287858
If we don't do it, someone else will, so :^)

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>>3287858
Your link doesn't even support your theory that the CIA is smuggling drugs into the US. It said their paid man in Afghanistan had allegations that he smuggled to the Mideast.

American illegal heroin comes from Mexico and Columbia. Afghani illegal heroin goes to Europe. See pic related.

Big pharma gets their poppies from licensed growers in India, New Zealand, and other countries that are not Afghanistan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium

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Sup Afghacucks

>>3287946
Tajiks and Pashtuns are both ethnically Iranian. Tajiks is literally just a synonym for Persian

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>>3287594
America is doing fairly well in Afghanistan. When was the last time Taliban/al-Qaeda made it into the big bold headlines since 9/11? Since 2001 they have lost 90% of their fighting power and with Trump's new strategy they are certain to be completely erradicated from the face of the Earth. The only two things that are making this slower are, firstly, Pakistan's non-coperation. The war is being fought mostly on the northern part of the border with Pakistan, and at the present moment it's believed most of the remaining Taliban are in Pakistan not Afghanistan. Secondly, the Taliban can just kind of sit out and hide. All things considered, America has practically won this war.

>>3287706
>just pashtun
We actually don't know where Pashtuns come from. They themselves don't know because of being an illiterate gypsy culture, but they have varying claims to be the lost tribe of Israelites, Arabs, Greeks, but also real Aryans in the same breath. The first unambiguous mention of them is by Babur pointing out that none of them yet live in Kabul or the north and all of them live in the south. As we know it, even Hazara have been there longer and been assimilated, hence why they speak the native language. We know Tajiks are the oldest people in the region and descendants of the Bactrians and Soghdians.

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>>3287589
Why, despite inbreeding and poor health, are Afghans so aesthetic?

>>3287589
> Persians
> Scythians
> Greeks
> Indians
> Kushans
> Arabs
> Turks
> Mongols
> Timurids
> British
hmm

>>3289137
Our superior genes

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>>3289201
>British
Cry more

>>3289583
Why do you keep posting that stupid shit?

>>3289137
natural selection

>>3289137
He's tajik tho

>>3287616
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?mcubz=3

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>>3289665
When I said Afghan I meant in general Afghan citizens, I wasn't referring to Pashtuns only

>>3287624
also missed huge disunity between tribesmen/different ethnic groups/language groups that make picking a tribe to back an imperial power locally, help run a puppet government or help you fight isn't even going to work

>>3289137
Andronovo Nordic influence.

>>3287589
It's the Vietnam of the Middle East

>>3287844
You are literally retarded.

>>3287844
Your Turkish "history" lessons are pretty awful, most dynasties that ruled Iranian lands were natively Iranian.

Also Iranian Azeris are genetically Iranian still despite their language being Turkified unlike Azerbaijani Azeris who are mind-controlled a century ago into thinking they are native Turks. Stop being a dumb shitter.

>Medes
>Achaemenids
>Arsacids
>Sassanids
>Buyids
>Samanids
>Safavids
>Pahlavis

Also Kurds are Iranian as well.