Why is it that some sects in Western society presumes that progressivism, particularly as it relates to gender identity and gender roles, is inherently right? I'm not discussing equality of opportunity, equal pay, etc. Obviously everyone deserves a right to these things.
I'm asking whether the "elimination" of gender roles is, in actuality, the incorporation of women into a modified, male gender role, and what purpose that ultimately serves. Qualities which exemplary progressive women exhibit - independence, intelligence, developing a career, and sexual freedom - are all qualities we traditionally associate with the male gender role.
It's as if we said, "Feel free to play ball, but by our rules." And those rules happen to play into the capitalist system and male identity within it.
>>3283071
>inherently right
there is no inherently right
and answer usually boils down to muh feelings
>>3283071
>I'm not discussing equality of opportunity, equal pay, etc.
those things imply the things you are discussing
and they literally cannot overrule biology - women are women and men are men
men and women have the same rights, as they should, but there are biological realities we can't change, gender roles cannot really be eliminated other than in the minds of polfags and tumblr whales, where it's just wishful thinking to be proven right
women nor men will never ever do something that's biologically or naturally prohibited, outside of their potential or the like
we can discuss how to put things around within that framework
my problem with the current framework is - im not getting laid, so i think people(females included) might be having too much sex and should stop immediately
>>3283071
HURR DURR ROASTIES STAY IN THE KITCHEN REEEEEEE
>>3283071
Because business need more hands to exploit. you now, to get more profit.
>>3283071
in the 20s they said it was about voting
in the 40s they said they wanted to smoke and work
in the 60s have sex, work, smoke, use drugs and dress like they wanted
in the 80s they were still not happy and continued to blame white men for problems with modern society
Everything is not enough to communists and progressive people
>>3283071
They have an inferiority conplex over the natural conditions of the relatives strengths of their sex and the unequal burden of childbirth. It leads them to try to femminize men and masculinize women because they are misogynists with deeply internalized self hatred.
Ask yourself why it needs to serve a purpose at all.
>>3283071
> I'm asking whether the "elimination" of gender roles is, in actuality, the incorporation of women into a modified, male gender role
That's actually the funniest part about the feminism that is rampant in the West. Those women don't aim to equality. They "want" to be men.
The matriarchy they glorify has nothing of matriarchy but it's just a very masculine patriarchy with women instead of men.
Whether this is random or intentional, I don't know.
Economics
As technology progresses to the point where much of the work force needn't be physically competent or coordinated while also not having super high mental standards it makes sense economically to encourage the Economy to access the huge pool of women for labor, which to do effectively you need to promote them as the social equals of men
Early feminism in the 1960s was very socialist and communist.
They realized that the root of all problems was the capitalist national security state.
So the CIA unleashed Gloria Steinem on them because we can't be having them there ladies trying to smash capitalism and the ruling class.
Same with the Vietnam War protestors and LSD.