Just found out that eastern Ukraine literally is Russian soil.

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>>3268323
Cossacks were a warrior class in eastern Poland, consisting mostly out of Ruthenians, followed by Poles and Lithuanians, but also Scots, Dutch and Russians (migrants in Poland).
Chmielnicki was a Polish noble (from his fathers side) and a hetman, he went to Ukraine*, Cossackified himself and became a rebel.
Many people that traveled to the Dzikie Pola (Wild Fields) were outcasts or bandits from all over the PLC running away form the law because that part of Poland was the least settled and patrolled due to constant Tatar raids.

Ukraina: U+kraina - U kresu krainy - U krańcu krainy Korony Królestwa Polskiego, Rzeczypospolitej Obojga Narodów.
Ukraine: At+borderland - At the borderland of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

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>>3268323
>Just found out that eastern Ukraine literally is Russian soil
But, anon, everything is Russian soil from ancient times. They beat Napoleon and Hitler and will beat even Washington.

>>3268337
>>3268323
Only orange and yellow is actually Ukrainian
Lwow and Galicia are Polish, Crimea and the blue are Russian

>>3268323
>being this fucking spooked
Holy fuck, OP, if we went by your logic the only "real" "Russian" territory would be the city of Moscow.

>>3268323
Someone's been watching a lot of RT...

>>3268337
Cossacks became a bonafide warrior class during the Wild Fields eras, when they were conveniently employed that way by more organized Slav states.

But they started out as runaway serfs and outcasts, pioneers, adventurers, etc. Southern Ukraine was a no-mans land subject to Ottoman slave raids and various Mongol bands roamed through raping and pillaging. It was a dangerous place, but Cossacks built forts and did some of their own raiding. The balance started to turn, around the late 1600s. It was because of this relative stability that more northerly Slavs could settle it en masse.

(Cossack is Ottoman Turkish for "the free ones", the same origin for the ethnonym Kazakhs)

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>>3268342
>They beat Napoleon and Hitler
they did though

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>>3268347
Poland can have Lviv and Galicia once it returns Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia.

Even when Lviv was under Polish(-Lithuanian) rule, Poles never formed the absolute majority. This part of Ruthenia was culturally a little different. Greek Catholics (lolwuts?) were everywhere and cultural/political sway was as often as not more towards A-H, Hungary or Romania.

>>3268659
>Even when Lviv was under Polish(-Lithuanian) rule, Poles never formed the absolute majority
Wrong.

>>3268672
Nope, right. Poles formed, at best, about 50%. During WW2, as Jews were removed, the proportion of Poles increased to form an overall majority for the first time, but that was temporary...

'Ruthenian' Ukraine was really sort of Catholic Russians. Certainly influenced by being under Polish domination, but they viewed themselves as distinct from both Russians and Poles.

Over time they took a different character, their language (dialect if you must) was different, and they were influenced more by western Europe than more northerly Slavs (Moscow-based) were. They joined with the Cossacks and "New Russia" and Ukraine was born.

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>>3268323
>What should Ukraine's borders actually look like?

1654 borders. They really do not deserve that land.

>>3269340
t. a russian swinedog
take your meme picture back to /po/

>>3268645
They didn't beat the Finns.