Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor

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Fuck that nigga.

>>3265883
nice bird!

>>3265891
greedy pope bastards wanting to crusade while he made deals with muslims for free passage of pilgrims?

whats the point in war if the same outcome has been peacefully achieved

>>3265883
>tfw descendant of Frederick II

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>>3265883
rightful german kaiser coming through, wilhelm is a cuck and should have never been made kaiser

>>3265883
>german
>emperor
stupid fucking anglo

>>3265883
do you know about this?
"Rather than exterminate the Muslim population of Western Sicily, he deported them at Lucera. Not least, he enlisted them in his Christian army and even into his personal bodyguards."

A further example of how much Frederick differed from his contemporaries was the conduct of his Crusade in the Holy Land. Outside Jerusalem, with the power to take it, he parleyed five months with the Ayyubid Sultan of Egypt al-Kamil about the surrender of the city. The Sultan summoned him into Jerusalem and entertained him in the most lavish fashion. When the muezzin, out of consideration for Frederick, failed to make the morning call to prayer, the emperor declared: "I stayed overnight in Jerusalem, in order to overhear the prayer call of the Muslims and their worthy God".

>>3268529
>spends his entire life making a united Germany
>it all violently crashes once he dies
Lmao

>>3265897
Unless he won Jerusalem itself, it's not the same outcome

>>3268784
>>3268774
fun fact: After the French got hold of Apulia, they exterminated the Muslim population.

>>3268785
Today in people spouting memes on /his/:

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>>3268788
>>3268774
One of these was the right thing to do, and a German didn't do it

>>3268774
i've heard that he was so kind with muslims that the pope excommunicated him 4x and called him the anti christ

but i didn't know about this

also he became a legend after he died. the general populace kept saying that he was in a far away mountain waiting till the time was right to set things straight

>>3268784
he really was a great man. he was a christian who saw the value in peace and made good deals with those who shared his God.

I wish there were more emperors like him, he was a literate, rational peacekeeper

>>3268799
>i've heard that he was so kind with muslims that the pope excommunicated him 4x and called him the anti christ
It was more about the fact that he was a dick.
>he was a christian
Wrong

>>3268794
cheeky bastard

>>3268801
He was a christian, it's just that he was open to the other major abrahamic religion of Islam

>it was more about the fact that he was a dick
no...
the pope wanted a united europe so he gave them a common enemy, this increased his influence and riches, since middle eastern cities were very rich. also by controlling Jerusalem and other coastal cities you not only control pilgrimage but also trade. double the moneys. because frederick had a better deal than the pope, he was fearing he would become irrelevant, hence the excommuncating

>>3268812
He was probably evil.
>he gave them a common enemy
Papa didn't do that, Mohammad did. When they took Egypt and Syria and every other Christian country they could, they made themselves the enemy of Christendom.

>>3268818
there had been peace established by the time Pope Urbanus called everyone into crusading. also, the Byzantines were orthodox, an enemy of catholicism. do i have to mention the Fourth Crusade?

>>3268824
>there had been peace established by the time Pope Urbanus called everyone into crusading
There will never be a truly lasting peace when someone still has half your shit. Plus, the Crusades were initially called, because Turks apparently didn't hear about that established peace.
Also, the Fourth Crusade is a lot more complex than memers would have you believe. There was trickery afoot.

>>3268831
well since muslims were sworn enemies of christendom, the ottoman empire taking chunks of AH was completely justified? also just admit that the Fourth Crusade was a huge christian blunder and that it was the event that set the stage for the Ottomans to deal the finishing blow

>>3268847
What do you mean, AH? Austria Hungary? No, the Ottomans taking anything is disgusting. The fact that Anatolia is currently recognized as Turkey is disgusting
>also just admit that the Fourth Crusade was a huge christian blunder
It was more like a giant series of blunders that set the stage for the Ottomans. Nobody's denying that.

He made us a kingdom, so he was cool i guess

>>3268787
but he did, literally crowned "king of jerusalem" there

>>3268884
Well, yeah, fuck him still. King of Jerusalem should be some kind of nonfaggot, like French or possibly Breton. Look at where peace got him. Where's Jerusalem now?

>An experiment allegedly carried out by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II in the 13th century saw young infants raised without human interaction in an attempt to determine if there was a natural language that they might demonstrate once their voices matured. It is claimed he was seeking to discover what language would have been imparted unto Adam and Eve by God.

>The experiments were recorded by the monk Salimbene di Adam in his Chronicles, who wrote that Frederick encouraged "foster-mothers and nurses to suckle and bathe and wash the children, but in no ways to prattle or speak with them; for he would have learnt whether they would speak the Hebrew language (which he took to have been the first), or Greek, or Latin, or Arabic, or perchance the tongue of their parents of whom they had been born. But he laboured in vain, for the children could not live without clappings of the hands, and gestures, and gladness of countenance, and blandishments.

what the fuck was his problem?

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>>3268894
Probably caught Satanism from the Mohammadians. He probably prayed the rosary backwards to Termagant

>>3268894
mutliple kings did this shit. i heard one did it but because the kids could hear sheep, they started to bleat

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first and best kaiser

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imagine being the pope, spent years trying to get jerusalem with thousands of soldier and still failed to kick the ayyubids out for the long ass time and then this fucking guy you just excomunicated just came there by boats and had a nice talk with the ayyubids sultan and the sultan decides to hand over the whole jerusalem because he thinks youre a cool guy and he likes birds too. achieving peace, safe pilgrimage routes and being crowned king of jerusalem by theorder of the ayyubids sultan himself all without a single blood being spilled.

imagine the absolute butthurt state of the papacy just then

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Pietro della Vigna did NOTHING wrong.

6th crusade is the best crusade desu

>>3268921
right? lol
>a-antichrist!!!

>>3265883
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