The ghetto in America

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I'm personally biased, but 70's NYC was the worst

90's LA was kinda the heyday of the whole "dope slinging gangsta" meme, but if you avoided certain neighborhoods you'd be relatively alright

80's Miami was only dangerous for cokeheads or people who asssociated with them

D.C. when crack was happening in the 80's deserves honorable mention for fucked upness

But 70's NYC was fucking Gotham City without the Caped Crusader

New York is fucking Disneyworld now

>>3265084
That's because new york has gone full dystopian police state. I shit you not the projects look like they are being occupied by a military force, moblie observation post, constant patrols and flood lighting make it look like something out of a movie.

>>3265312

pics please

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>>3265317

>>3265312
That's what it takes

Rudy Giulianni brought peace and prosperity to his city

>CRUSHED the Mafia once and for all
>Sent the police out in outright "gang removal" operations
>Stop & Frisk
>First time offenders are also last time offenders
>Serial killers were hunted and purged
>Constant surveillance and patrols
>Destruction of old buildings and dens of degeneracy like porn theaters

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>>3265317

>>3265388
Say whatever you want, but Harlem is so peaceful these days even middle class non-blacks are moving in without worry

>>3265505
As a provincial who has been to New York many times, this anon is exaggerating. The "ghetto" has been pretty much purged under Guilianni. In the 70s and 80s you could walk down 5th Ave and see hookers and buy hard drugs in the street.

>>3265364
>>3265388

thx. I've only ever seen stuff like that during terrorist threats

>>3265084
D.C. Was that bad?

>>3265649
It earned the nickname "the murder capital" in the nineties because the city briefly held the highest murder rate amongst large cities. I recall also that mayor Marion Barry got done for smoking Crack in his office, was sent to prison and was still re-elected

>>3265649
it's still pretty bad in some ways. For instance, the HIV/ AIDS rates here are fucking crazy. 1 in 13 people are infected

>>3265009
Miami, it had the worst murder rate in America at that point. Even to this day it remains a shithole while NYC is completely different.

>>3265755
In The world actually
And Miami isn't not that bad now
It's not New York but it's not that bad

>>3265749
No way it's that serious

>>3265871
Miami is one of the worst cities in America, crime rate is 3rd world tier, it's full of Dominican and Haitian boat people who can't speak English and purchasing power is lower than in Detroit, it's poor as fuck.

>>3265084
after vice city and san andreas. i think 70's NYC seems like a good plot for the next GTA

>>3265959
You've never heard of GTA III, the game that started open sandbox shooters?

>>3265959
Driver:Parallel Lines is exactly what you're looking for. It's like if Taxi Driver and all other cliche 70s movies set in NYC were a video game.

>>3265009
I believe New Orleans in 1994 has the record for major american cities murder rate with 424 murders for a rate of about 85 per 100,000. Early 90s DC is a close second.

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shitcongo

>>3265009
>Why do American cities degrade to 3rd world conditions?
Because they come to be inhabited by third world peoples. Blacks in america have pretty much the same murder rates as blacks in africa and just so whites have similar murder rates as whites in europe.

>>3265710
That sounds like Rob Ford

>>3266411
This desu
Whether biological or cultural, blacks shit up any city they inhabit in large numbers
Example: Detroit

Based on just reading on wikipedia I would think the NYC in the 70s was the worst. It was really Detroit-tier.

>>3266007
>forgets GTA 1 and 2 existed

>>3266204
Can confirm. New Orleans outside of Downtown and French Quarter is basically Liberia.

>>3266411
This is also true.

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Miami had the most aesthetic societal collapse

>>3266468
>forgets quarantine existed

>>3266495
>TV shows = reality
Oh you're one of those brainlets.

>>3266545
Is he wrong though? Miami is aesthetic as fuck

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>>3266580
>Is he wrong though?
Yes.

>>3265009
>Why do American cities degrade to 3rd world conditions
Because America is a oligarchy, has been for a very long time. It's no different from a Banana Republic

>>3266411
As someone from St. Louis, I can confirm this. Hoodrat niggers here even brag about this city having a high murder rate.

>>3266610
I'm from Columbus and it's the same in our ghettos. Niggers even began to call it "Killumbus" with pride.

>>3266610
Fello St. Louisan here. We do have a high murder rate but the hype is overblown. It's mainly ghetto blacks killing each other rather than them invading the civilized areas. The scariest it was after Mike Brown but even that blew off fairly quick.

>>3265009
NYC, LA and Miami have real economies today.

Detroit is dead, Chicago too, St. Louis falling.

Midwest didn't have a good economy in a long time.

>>3266411
>Blacks in america have pretty much the same murder rates as blacks in africa and just so whites have similar murder rates as whites in europe.
I believe you but can I have a citation?

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>>3266731
Not that guy, but anon delivers.

>>3266411
>le race and crime meme

I've lived in Los Angeles Chicago and Detroit.
The primary issue is the exploitation of people in need.
People are promised housing and jobs under contract and then those contracts are only partly fulfilled.
This leads to poor conditions and the creation of gang activity.
Often minority neighborhoods are targeted first for this type of exploitation.
Later service providers that are supposed to alleviate issues in a neighborhood instead and up exploiting minority groups for their ability to be used to access public funds.

>>3266810
>Detroit
>minority neighborhoods
I hope you realize it's the whites who are minorities in Detroit. Also almost all important Detroit politicians for the last few decades were blacks, so they cannot blame wypipo.

>>3266651
>The North raises taxes on buisnesses to support their welfare state.
>Businesses and the Upper class run to the hills with their money taking all the jobs with them.
>They all move down south were they aren't taxed and don't have to deal with unions.
>The South starts booming as more and more businesses and rich people move to the south.
>Northerners stay mystified as to where all the jobs and money went as hood rats shoot up the inner cities.

Antebellium 2: Electric Boogaloo here we come.

Also
>mfw the south has better race relations than the north ever did.
>Roof shoots up the church in Charleston.
>No riots and Al Sharpton gets kicked out of town when he shows up to try to stir shit.
>This happened right after Charlottsville
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/secessionists-black-community-leaders-stand-together-to-denounce-violent-protests/article_863b1bfc-81e8-11e7-a716-1ba06a5c1f50.html
>Richard Spencer speaks at a University in Virginia,
>Police enforce "No Mask" policy set by the mayor, confiscate weapons and arrested anyone that tried to pick a fight.

>>3266651
>Miami
>real economy
Really now?

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>>3266828
>he thinks the South was richer/more developed than the North during the antebellum
When will this idiocy stop? It was a feudal shithole.

>>3266825
They are still a minority in the state and they are still a minority in the country and have been exploited via unfulfilled contracts for the last 50 + years. This is just an absolute fact. It doesn't matter the size of the community as long as the size of the community is still significantly smaller than the majority surrounding them who obviously have complete or at least more control of the economic situation various areas.

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>>3266828
Forgot my face
>>3266835
I never implied that it was. Then again we did produce 75% of the world's cotton supply by the end of Antebellum.
We were better off then most parts of the world except for the North and Britain at the time.

>>3266614
ill never understand why black people love when a place has a high murder rate. That just means that they have a higher chance of being murdered.

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>>3266370
>crime drops off around 2 decades after abortions skyrocket

>>3266845
You're an idiot. Detroiters have only themselves to blame for electing ridiculously corrupt niggers who ended up embezzling public funds. Kwame Kilpatrick ring a bell?
t. Troy

>>3266450
Well could it be because outsourcing of the American heavy industry destroyed the American worker.

>>3266920
American heavy industry collapsed in Pittsburgh too yet Pittsburgh isn't a shithole like Detroit, they simply diversified their economy, invested heavily in education and attracted large tech companies. Probably has something to do with the fact that Pittsburgh is mostly white, unlike Detroit.

>>3266793
>being this delusional

>>3266774
This also includes Hispanics, who commit more crime than non-Hispanic whites. It would be interesting to see how low the homicide rate would be if we excluded them. My guess is it would be even lower and probably comparable to western countries such as the UK and France, though it's hard to say without any data.

>>3266878
>all black people are edgy poorfags

>>3267506
They are

>>3265312
If people didn't act like degenerates and control themselves you wouldn't have had this happen. The people of New York have only themselves to blame.

>>3266828
Last time I checked, the South is still a shithole.

>>3267506
Pretty much are

>>3265009
Ghettos are basically dead mmos

>>3266928
Detroit was all about autos

>>3266867
>We were better off then most parts of the world except for the North and Britain at the time.

Aw hell no cletus. Poverty was extremely rampant and heavy in the south and it basically was feudal. The majority of the whites who were poor only had the fact if black being under them protecting them from the full impression of the southern gentry.

>>3266774
Too bad stats in international settings use entire nations instead of cherrypicking demographics

>>3267978
The south is nice kys

>>3269475
The south is shit. The big cities are either glorified ghettos (Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Charlotte, Richmond) or cucked liberal cesspits (Nashville, Austin, Raleigh). The rural areas are all povertyland.

>>3269496
>>3269496
The great smokey moutians, Southern cooking , hospitality and colleges offset that. Houston and Atlanta are not terrible (New Orleans is shit I'll Give you that )The Midwest is the worst shit hole in America. The east coast is heroinland and the west coast is shit.

Have you been to America?

>>3269509
The Northeast is and always has been the most developed and culturally elite region of America.

>>3269567
And filled with the rudest assholes in the country.

>>3269567
And is crowded, dirty and filled with miserable people. The Northeast sucks which is why half of them have been moving to South Florida and shitting up our highways.

>>3265009
Murder rate was a higher in the 90's/late 80's including the Midwest. DC and New Orleans competed for the most murderous city back then.

>>3269509
West coast is methland.

>>3269679
We don't like everyone else is a slow fuckwit who needs to make small talk when all I fucking want is my fillup and a pack of cigarettes.

>>3269891
Crowded? Yeah why not.
Dirty? Most environmentally friendly than suburbia.
Filled with miserable people? Yeah why not.
But there's nowhere quite like it. Atlanta is a quaint little town compared to New York.

>>3267417
Actually some hispanic communities have lower crime rates than many white majority communities. The murder rate in black communities doesn't compare to anything else. Also the most murderous cities tend to have lower rape rates and those with the highest rape rates are often predominately white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

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>>3265755
>>3265871
>>3265896
Miami is terrible now. I grew up as a white kid there and it's really sad to see what Miami has become.

We never really recovered after the recession and we just keep sinking. We're going to be America's next Detroit.

I really wish there was a way to fix it but I don't know how honestly.

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>>3270017
>now
When did you grow up there, in the 50's?

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>>3266651
>>3266830
What fucking economy does Miami have?

Everything went belly under after the housing crash.

The only thing we got is cocaine and illegals selling oranges on the side of the road.

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>>3270036
>I have no debate for my incestual propensity.

>>3270036
And some more data.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

The surge in the interest in controlling immigration isn't about crime but in stopping the democrats from gaining cheap votes and pushing gun control and misandry.

>>3269509
This and New Orleans is only shit because of corrupt federal politicians.

>>3270050
wow its almost as if these states are plagued by structural, centuries-old societal problems which cause them to be less developed.

>>3270092
so what you're saying is
>DA NORTHERN MAN BE KEEPIN' US DOWN
>WE WUZ CONFEDERATZ N SHIIIIET

>>3270092
The South didn't industrialize when the North did or as much. I think Max Weber also attributed the problem as he did other places to an attachment to the "traditional" way of life which in his terms meant the life that is not adapted to capitalist society.

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>>3270027
From the late 90s till 2015. It was pretty comfy in the 00s, but after Obama got elected crime really went up.

We got our car jacked twice and house burglarized twice too

>>3270186

THANKS OBAMA

>>3265312
>That's because new york has gone full dystopian police state.
There's nothing dystopian about nyc at all. It's pretty much the only liveable large metro area in the united states. Every single city should follow Giuliani's model it would probably even turn Detroit into an okay place.

t. born in 1985 lifelong new yorker

>>3265009
New York was the worst. It had no appeal besides being a 'no good monies' region. It means cash ruled. Majority of people earned income illegally besides those that worked for hospitals, media, utilities or fortune 500s. Many businesses were money laundering schemes. The subways were a grafitti heaven. People dried their clothes in the streets. Shoes hung all over.
Miami wasnt that bad most crime was instigated by media to make awareness of 'coke' smuggling routes. But it was so calm old people moved their. It was going through a political and economic change but thats another topic. The miami politicians political state of mind is to exagerate to get what they want from the fed, money. The most fascist state is Miami. LA was the better to be in. Around this time I have friends who moved from Miami, NY to LA. There was said to be more job stability. Ofcourse there were stay out zones. But it was more visually appealing than NYC.

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>>3270262
>the most fascist state is Miami

I'm from Miami and I don't understand this statement. I live in NYC now too and I would find NYC more "fascist" in terms of law enforcement.

What makes you say this?

>>3270251
NYC has many virtues but livability isn't one of them, except maybe if you are very rich.

>>3270295
It's worth it desu

Do you know what the rest of the cities in this country are like? Look at a place like San Francisco. No "dystopian" police anywhere, naked mentally ill roving the streets 24/7 shitting themselves, AND rents are still more expensive than nyc

Fuck that.

>>3267506
Those who aren't are irrelevant stadistic oddities.

>>3270305
SF is an overpriced shithole but I live in the Philly area and I'd take it over New York any day

>>3265009
Name/type of gun?

>>3270330
I also live in the Northeast and think the West coast is more scenic. Sucks that there are fears of it being irradiated from nuclear testing and Fukushima.

>>3266928
Pittsburgh's leadership did what they had to do to diversify the economy. Cities like Detroit and Camden NJ(which used to be a rich middle class/ upper class city too) had corrupt and incompetent mayors who did jack shit except skim off the top while the 'white flight' took all the money out of the economy.

>>3270305
I'd take the transient citizen exercising his freedoms over some mandyke Newyorican cop telling me what to do.

>>3265505
That's called gentrification.

>>3270330
I live in New York and it's pretty comfy as long as you don't live in an upscale neighborhood 15 minutes from the city. I'd never live in Philadelphia.

>>3270186
What part of Miami did you live in?
I've lived in Little Havana, Allapatah Coral Gables, Brickell and Hieleah and the only area that's ever given me problems was Coral Gables. Maybe you and your family aren't street smart and lack common sense

>>3270619
Not that anon but

>Living in a place where you have to be street smart as to avoid having your car stolen.

Why do people in this thread act like you either have to live in a large city or rural bum fuck as if theres no in between.

I live in Columbus GA, right outside of Ft.Benning. It's pretty comfy for the most part.

>>3270448
Giuliani letting the NYPD go full police state is the root of all gentrification.

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>>3265009


>ywn be an Miami PD officer with an M16A1 with an M203 grenade launcher

feelsbadman

Why would cops be allowed to have 203s anyway? Isn't 40mm HEDP a little overkill?

>>3270835
Those weren't cops it was the military by the time shit hit the fan during those riots

>>3270835
40mm launchers are used by the police all the time. I'll give you that they typically aren't used in a 203 under-barrel configuration, but they fire tear gas, rubber/bean bag projectiles, stun grenades, and all kinds of crap for crowd control

>>3270677
Fuck you

Uncle Ruddy was a saint

>>3270991

I thought 37mm was supposed less lethal and 40 was lethal (buckshot, explosive etc.)

>>3265009
>Why do American cities degrade to 3rd world conditions?

Automobiles

http://iqc.ou.edu/2014/12/12/60yrsmidwest/

>>3270906

Caption when I backsearched the pic said Miami PD

>>3266450
Even Chinese prisons have a hugely disproportionate amount of blacks, despite the relatively low population of them.

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>>3265009
Detroit:
Crooked mayors who get in because "we beez black"
Auto industry not only stagnating but changing very rapidly right after
Flight of middle class into suburbs after race and labor riots
Little development of the inner city for entertainment, and once population fled so did much of the entertainment
Shitty public transportation because in Motown you should own at least three cars yourself... and lease another four more
Increase in flight traffic over the decades brought down the number of people crossing the Canadian border by car and ferry

Only within the past three years has it started to bounce back as edgy, "adventurous" people gentrify neighborhoods

>>3271374
I think the white trash in Detroit is almost as bad as the other ethnic groups.

>>3269496
What about Dallas?

>>3271374
People don't move to a shitshow unless there is opportunity. White yuppies freshly minted out of college need professional jobs at mega corps.

I'm planning to buy up all the property in detroit and gentrify it myself

>>3270998
Where did I imply he wasn't?

>>3271374
Detroit ain't getting revitalized dude

It's literally a post-apocalyptic hellscape with some trust fund hipsters huddling in high class security apartments and periodically getting mugged & raped

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>>3270336
M16 with a M203 grenade launcher

>>3271497
Good luck nigga

There's literally packs of maneating dogs roaming around

Police won't respond to calls after 4pm

You best have a small army with you

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>>3271587

>A2

It would have to be an A1. This photo's from 1979 and the M16A2 didn't enter service with the US Marines until 1982, it took even longer to enter circulation with law enforcement.

>>3271652

why is it when the grenade launcher is attached it has the bigger barrel shroud?

>>3266825
detroit currently has a white mayor

>>3270251
>pretty much the only liveable large metro area in the united state
>t. life long new yorker
Gee, how did we know?

>>3266007
myabe because it doesn't happen during the seventies, retard

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>>3269509
>colleges
Outside of Vanderbilt, southern colleges are the shittiest in America.
>Houston and Atlanta are not terrible
Who are you kidding Jamal? See pic.
>Midwest is the worst shit hole
Top kek.
>Have you been to America?
Have you? South of Tennessee America basically doesn't exist, it's all Brazil.

Crime has never since been as bad as it was in the 70s.

>>3273476
>outside of Vanderbilt
Literally, unironically, kill yourself. You clearly don't know anything about the South you stupid piece of shit.

>>3273476
Emory
Texas A&M
The Citadel
Duke
UNC

But on the whole, the South does indeed have lower quality secondary education. All the good schools are either in California, the Northeast, or Chicago.

>>3266928
The problem was Detroit was built entirely around putting all its eggs in one basket.

>>3265542

I stayed at this AirBnB in Harlem back in 2015. There was a good reason for the police presence. Dudes were fighting each other over petty shit, often under the influence of something (booze, maybe). I guarantee you things would have gotten messier if the police had not intervened

>>3270448

Thank God for it, too. Harlem needs either beautification or gentrification. Since no one wants to help with the former, the latter takes place.

Marcus Garvey Park in Harlem was one of the shittiest """parks""" I ever had the misfortune of visiting

>>3273937
Harlem is like 40% gentrified already. In a decade, it won't even be recognizable in its current form.

>>3271426
Detroit is only 7% white so whatever the whites there do it's barely noticeable.

>>3273836
>claiming fucking Texas Ass to Mouth as a top university
At least say UT Austin. A&M is shit.

>>3273854
>>3268647
Same with Pittsburgh and steel.

>>3271722
Yeah, since 2013. Coincidentally a year into his term the murder rate started going down.

>>3273816
Fuck off sambo.

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>>3265009
> Detroit and other Midwest cities are going through it now.

“Now”? 50 years old metro Detroiter here, and the city of Detroit has been a shit hole since I was a kid.

The collapse of Detroit began with the 1967 Riot but it eally kicked in with the election of Coleman Young in late 1972, whereupon there was an immediate mass migration of Whites out of the city into the suburbs and in less than 10 years, the city of Detroit was an official 3rd world ghetto and remains so to this day.

>>3273836
As a Citadel grad, even I say Texas A&M is a joke.
VMI is a better example.

You also have USC, and Alabama

>>3270050
I wonder how much farm subsidies impact this? I know rural areas can be pretty poor and eat up welfare dollars but I also know commodity crops are fixed at artificially low levels to prop up our strange food industry.

>>3271426
White kids in Detroit just break shit and periodically throw shit at strangers & cars for fun

Black kids get their kicks from kidnapping & murder

>>3265896
I live in Miami now, and have lived in Miami for all my life.
It's not that bad, stop tripping.

>>3266878
those kinda places are more fun
t. half black

>>3274301
Exact same pattern in Cleveland.

>>3270668
you know car thieves can roam right?

>>3274688
>lived in Miami for all my life
So you have nothing to compare it to.

>>3273836
>Listing TAMU as a top southern university
>Not listing UT Austin

>>3274436
>USC and Alabama
>good

>>3265009

>Why do American cities degrade to 3rd world conditions? Detroit and other Midwest cities are going through it now.

Because of full force capitalism

>>3270017
Miami will not become Detroit because of the weather and the social scene

t. Detroiter

>>3276264
>capitalism invented niggers
Fuck the bourgies

>>3270251
Detroits problems lie in both legislators, enforcers of legislation, and the Auto Corps having a weird relationships with unions. The Ilitch's and Gilbert's do more with their bullshit.

>>3265379
Crime was already on decline before he took office

>>3271715
The regular A1 triangle handguard doesn't have mounting options for the M203.

>>3273476

>>3265896
>Miami
>not filled with Cubans

Most of the white people there are Cuban after all, it's interesting that you left them out. Cuban detected.

I will never shit on Chicago and Detroit too heavily because they gave us house and techno music.

>>3276523
No, Europe did that. (like pretty much everything you yankee mulattos overseas love)

>>3274301
>shittiest house by far survived
How did this happen?

>>3276798
Techno was born in Detroit

>>3276894
Kek, the american delusion. No it wasnt little one.

>>3276898
Yes it was you dick in the booty ass nigga

>>3276898
The Electronic music the influenced the folks in Detroit came from Europe. The sub genre of electronic music known as techno originated in Detroit.

>>3276898
Fuck off mehmet

>>3271300
Article really pulsates my pulsars

>>3266411
>>3266450
>>3266610
when did /pol/ invade /his/?

>>3266845
Maybe if they stopped murdering each other for drug money they could improve their own situation, but that's racist.

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Detroit has actually improved in recent years. The idea of renovating cheap properties has become self-fulfilling prophecy, the more people who do it, the higher land values rise.

>>3265084
You forgetting the German tourists getting killed in Miami rental cars.

>>3265312
Yeah well you need that with niggers

>>3277236
No anon you should take the word of some teenager who has never been to Michigan: Detroit is FINISHED

If you so much as step a single TOE in the city limits you will be raped to death, it's L I T E T A L L Y an unlivable hellhole

>>3270013
Rapes are committed mostly by Hispanics but are considered "white"

>>3270050
What a stupid chart. You do realize Republican voters are the Majority tax payers? That 47% stat Romney took fire for was 100% spot on.

>>3266793
Not a Meme. Rich niggers commit more crime than poor whites

>>3277206
Reality is /pol/

>>3277280
If you have autism.

>>3277265
reddit sarcasm

>>3270013
These days rape is getting a girl drunk and fucking her. If that's considered "Rape" then i'm a serial rapist.

>>3277291
Not really.

>>3277236
Its still shit.

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>>3271715

It's a heat shield that helps keep the launch secured to the rifle and prevent damage from excessive firing. Sadly the A4 no longer uses it, the M203 is instead secured with an underbarrel Picatinny rail system, which although it's lighter, creates it's own host of problems.

>>3265312
Police state > post-apocalyptic ghetto warzone. I don't even like NYC that much but clearly what they've done worked perfectly as intended and made the city livable again.

>>3277691
thus spake virginthustra

>>3277691

>then I'm a serial rapist

No, you're an asshole. May your dick fall off from the incurable syphilis. Amen.

>>3279157
>>3279149
Not even him but you guys never fucked a drunk girl?

>>3276798
Are you serious?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno

I expected you Brits to know better, considering how Jack Your Body was the first house song to top the charts in England. To make it more painful for you, it was created by black Americans, and a good chunk of them were faggots.

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>>3277691
If you were drunk too, then you're alright in my eyes. If you were completely sober, you took advantage of someone who wasn't.

>>3270097
It's not surprising that the south wasn't able to make a speedy recovery after the central force of their economy was destroyed

>>3265364
Bitch they have these in walmart parking lots here in America

It's just a way for security guards (rarely actual cops) to scope out potential car thieves

>>3266793
>a blatantly fucking true, and statistically backed truth
>Meme

>>3269567
>culturally elite
>Yanks
Nope

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Bumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qymOSNhI8Y0

>>3270017
I live in the southwest area and been around most of the county. Only parts to avoid are NE and NW areas, aka niggaland

>>3265379
are there strip clubs there?
Are asian massage places popular?

>>3277279
>>3267892
>>3267987
>>3277247
the average isn't responsible for those crime rates. Those are subgroups that have different sizes and the difference in size determines likeness. It doesn't magically equal most are responsible for it.

>>3266928
piittsburgh is a massive shithole
yeah, there are a slightly more engineers than detroit, but it's still a rust bucket.

>>3279954
And who is the culturally elite then, Cletus? Can't be a bunch of tailgating rednecks who smoke crystal and drink PBR.

>>3282192
New York strip clubs are the worst. Last I heard they're not allowed to take their bottoms off. No.

Miami has the best in the US

>>3265379

Turns out the Dredd protocol actually works.

>>3277267
Not true see link.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43
>inb4 fbi is Jews and whites can't rape people

>>3266411
blacks in america have higher murder rates than blacks in poor ass africa(where the population is younger, which further inflates the stats)
whites in america are more criminal than whites in europe as far as murder is concerned

>>3279388
>you Brits
>every European is British
American education

>>3265312
can confirm. Went to New York and saw police with m4 rifles and full armor and it was normal! Also the cop car sirens sound like the combine from Half Life 2. Never seen such a thing in my native LA.

>>3282491
What about Magic City? When looking at Backpage the Northern California Bay Area had the highest amount of ads in North America along with Toronto and the largest US cities.

>>3282549
NYC has probably the best counter terrorism and intelligence/counter intelligence agency in the world, if I weren't an autist constantly wracked with anxiety I'd love to work for it. If a civil war ever engulfs the usa I truly hope nyc goes full blown city state like Singapore.

>>3270084
>The surge in the interest in controlling immigration isn't about crime but in stopping the democrats from gaining cheap votes and pushing gun control and misandry.
this is so very correct
hispanics are far more comparable to white americans than to black ones

'the surge' of course is of a different nature as far as your polfags is concerned, since hispanics look slightly different :(

>>3282561
I loved the no standing and no spitting laws however! Police were standing at all the spots undesirables would usually loiter. The citywide culture and pride that New Yorkers had really impressed me. That strong sense of unity and local culture despite the "disneyfication" might help strengthen a potential manifestation of a NY city state during the much talked about coming Balkanization of the US.

>>3282549
New Yorkers like being imprisoned by trading security for freedom. These same people also support fag gun control. A wall needs to be put up to keep transplants from emigrating out.

>>3282579
Overall I feel equally safe in my home city without the paramilitary occupation.

>>3282555
Magic City in Atlanta? Black strip club. Disregard.

>>3282579
I agree about the wall because if I have to hear another New Yorker talk about pizza I will hang myself

>>3265896
Have u even been there ive lived there my whole life and its not that bad at all

>>3282491
Strip clubs are shit here because they're crawling with sexually repressed Arabs and Puerto Rican drug dealers who lose their shit everytime they see a pair of tits. The borderline criminal black and Slavic bouncers they hired are always wayyyy too aggressive too. Also a lot of nyc girls got into the habit of going to strip clubs here for a girl's night out for whatever reason (I shit you not).

I'd call an escort in nyc wayyyy before I'd go to a strip club in nyc. Biggest and most crigniest waste of time ever.

>>3282647
>Also a lot of nyc girls got into the habit of going to strip clubs here for a girl's night out for whatever reason (I shit you not).
Women do that. In Miami they typically don't allow women into the club without men though. Shit in Miami I don't even start tipping until she starts showing her pussy. Fucking one is expensive and more of a hassle than backpage but I've gotten robbed on backpage twice so I don't fuck with that shit anymore.
I fucked more strippers than girlfriends desu. And they all ask me why I don't have a girlfriend too. Sad

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>the quality of east coast hip hop has drastically declined with the rise of the NY police state
Fuck you uptowners.

>>3282614
Yeah the city is famous for it.

>>3282680
oh no, how will i find edgy music to rebel against my square middleclass parents if niggers aren't rapping about killing and stealing

>>3270084
>>3282568
>immigration isn't about crime at all
why would it depend what hispanics do? that's a different ethnic group than mexicans. Mexico literally has double the murder rate than nigeria

>>3282666
>thread about the culture and decline of large urban areas
>mfw no gf
At least this inescapable hell hole provides me with good laughs.

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>>3282647
>go to nyc strip club
>standing area only sitting areas require you to buy a bottle of bottom shelf liquor marked up to $250
>drinking whiskey sour I'm on my fourth
>black stirpper makes eyes with me
>"Hey sweetheart do you want a lap dance?"
>"n-no thanks."
>Dominican stripper makes eyes with me
>"Hey sweetheart do you want a lap dance?"
>"n-no thanks."
>Slavic stripper makes eyes with me
>"Hey sweetheart do you want a lap dance?"
>"n-no thanks."
leave me alone roasties I just want to get drunk I'd rather spend money on a bonafide hooker instead of a shitty milquetoast stripper I don't want to pay your student loans I want to support a struggling mother with a cocaine problem by dicking her reeeeeee

>>3282710
large portion of hispanics are mexicans, your distinction is correct and meaningful though

>Mexico literally has double the murder rate than nigeria
lol, that's misleading on many levels
firstly, a lot of the murder in nigeria is unreported
secondly murder in mexico is mostly cartel wars and it is a war, with literal armed to the teeth former soldiers involved
thirdly, mexico is not yet in the US, though the war does spill over and it isn't entirely mexico's fault

anyways, racially chileans are about the same kind of native+euro mutts,also in terms of proportion, with a murder rate of <4, so that's your absolute minimum for mexicans

>>3282710
Wut?
There's also Central America where there was a spike in arrivals from there in recent years while Obama was president. There are also a few countries is LatAm with the highest murder rates in world. Again I think crime was just a usable excuse for the campaign compared to other reasons.
In Maryland about two years before the general election, perhaps the toughest gun law passed yet in the country might have cost the former governor's endorsement candidate the election in a strongly liberal state. Also since it is one of the four states with around or above a 30% black population I doubt it was due to his skin color.
The dnc could sweep the elections if they became pro-gun and perhaps the gop if they became pro-welfare and enviroment or something.

>>3282768
>firstly, a lot of the murder in nigeria is unreported
how much? Why isn't this the case for Mexico?
>secondly murder in mexico is mostly cartel wars and it is a war, with literal armed to the teeth former soldiers involved

So without all the violence, mexico wouldn't be violent and would be more like this outlier country? Even with countries like Honduras and Elsavador with similar ancestry?

>>3282871
>how much?
who knows
>Why isn't this the case for Mexico?
because mexico is more developed than nigeria
you'll notice the more developed the african country is, the higher the murder rate - due to higher rates of murders being reported and hopefully investigated

>So without all the violence, mexico wouldn't be violent and would be more like this outlier country?
you are not understanding the argument
it means honduras and salvador can aim for the same figure, because we've seen it in chile

chile isn't an outlier in the sense that the people are vastly different - and that would be an important way to be an outlier and it would make chile unusable for this sort of argument
mexico is already like this 'outlier' in a way that matters - population composition
so chile's murder rate is an upper bound for the lowest possible crime rate for murder rate in mexico (upper because chile might lower it further, who knows)

use your small fucked up brain to understand you moron, really you might learn something

>>3283172
That wouldn't stop crimes from going unreported in mexico.
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/crimes-mexico-unreported-inegi
Is this >>3266774 a totally accurate stat then or not? Why do you think so many of these people violent in the first place regardless of country?

>>3265009
Detroit is actually getting much better, especially downtown. It's past it's worst state.

>>3269567
As a Vermonter I am sadly agreeing with you. And we have nothing. New England>California>New York>Blacks in America>The South

>>3265649
Yes. It really is and to this day the Southeast area of DC is still really bad.

>>3265009
>no Baltimore

>>3283172
>you'll notice the more developed the african country is, the higher the murder rate

Not really. The more developed parts of Africa have a huge history with slums and crime in general. South Africa is exceptional because of how it's cities developed and government polices at various levels helped cement it (similar to Brazil).

>>3282237
Anon, he said "Yanks" not "Yankees". On top of the cultural jab, I'd reckon you're dealing with a yuropoor here, not a southerner.

>>3282539
Even if you're not British, you're very clearly ignoring the fact that he proved you wrong about the origins of house and techno music.

>>3282619
This. Hell, extend it to keep out northern New Jersey too, they have the same unwarranted sense of arrogance regarding pizza. I have a friend from Newark who literally reeeeees if anyone mentions liking, or worse eating, deep dish.

>>3265379
god damn

>>3277206
t. Sheltered surburban faggot

Keep crying

>>3276811
looks like the strongest structurally/easiest to repair

houses like the one on the left decay quicker I think

>>3270028
Are you literally retarded anon

Along with New Orleans, its America's main port to Latin America

>>3265312
So you're saying that if we treated war on crime like an actual war/occupation it'd work huh? Cool because I've said the same thing.

>>3284059
Idk. I've been told Detroit is a shit hole 1000 times but I've never been there so never say so myself. That dude has probably never been to Miami and thinks it's a run down shit hole lacking an economy.

>>3266828
>He thinks that the South has any possibility for growth

fuckin good one m8

t. Floridian

>>3279604
>DEY TOOK OUR SLAVES
>FUCKIN GUBMENT

>>3266370
Wow american police departments are really violent huh

>>3266580
>Miami is aesthetic as fuck
has to be bait

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>>3265009
idk about individual cities, but violent crime in America was fucking nuts in the early 90s, so I'm going with LA in the early 90s

>>3282211
But the klan and ted bundy = whites

>>3285167
Out of cities with a population over 500,000 it was D.C. and New Orleans that had the highest murder rates. New Orleans reportedly had an even higher murder rate in 2007 at 90 per 100,000 but with a smaller population after Hurricane Katrina.
Only some much smaller localities may have surpassed those rates in places like East St. Louis and Opa Locka.
The worst part of LA had a murder rate of 79 per 100,000 just a bit lower than DC's worst city wide. Compton is also directly South of South Los Angeles so that's an extension of the violence.

>>3285173
Klan barely did anything, they're a meme.

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>>3274936
>>3273970
>Going to a smaller, poorer, younger school and wearing burnt orange
Oops.
Not our fault you fucked up and went to the wrong school.

>>3274436
We commission almost the same number as you do but we get to drink heavily and date non-cadet women.
Kys.

>>3285290
TAMU is shit m8, check any relevant rankings.

>>3265379
Fuck we need someone like him in LA. Too many pussy liberals though. Just need a strong arm to whip niggers and spics in line.

>>3270835
So much more aesthetic than today's tacticool soldier.

>>3270835
Watch Cocaine Cowboys

>>3282573
>I loved the no standing and no spitting laws however!
Reminds me of Singapore where they have a death sentence for spitting gum on the street.

>>3285334
One of the best agricultural schools in the entire world.

>>3284059
Miami is not a major port. Canal trade goes to Houston. Charleston and Savannah process more containers than Miami for some perspective on how busy the port is there.

>>3285290
>Smaller
>Poorer
>Younger
>Still consistently ranked higher than A&M

Feels good man

>>3266433
Rob Ford was the Leafistani Marion Berry.

>>3266433
That was Rob Ford before Rob Ford

>>3285187
>Only some much smaller localities may have surpassed those rates in places like East St. Louis and Opa Locka.

East Palo Alto, CA had an insane murder rate of 172 per 100000 in 1992, right in the middle of silicon valley, of all places

>>3283588

Columbia Heights could also do with a good napalm strike, too.

>>3270013

that's because whites think breathing in the same room is rape

>>3270013
To be fair, whites probably have a higher report rate for rape. Especially if those per-capita rates are factoring in illegals living there. Some of the migrants I've met rather perform home-surgery than go to a hospital if they think the docs'll make a police report.

>>3288236
Really you thought the inbred label was just a meme.

>>3287072
PG County averages 100 murders a year 150 in 2005. This is even mentioned on an episode of The Wire.

>>3266614
Lol columbus is so non threatening and even our worst areas arent that scary

>>3277206
AS racist as they might sound, are they wrong?

>>3270674
Because theyre sheltered uppermiddle class urbanfags, they dont understand the worlds outside their termite colonies

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>>3285415

It's not tacticool, it's tactishit, more costly and less effective than what it replaced in virtually every way.

>>3287072
I was around there over the summer and it seemed relatively gentrified

>>3266204
can also confirm. New Orleans is a 3rd world warzone.

>i unfortunately live there

>>3276430
Yeah but no one like mentioning that at all unfortunately.

>>3266204

My mother was seriously considering moving to New Orleans before I was born. She said the murder rate put her off.

>>3270050
Republican states have to pay for niggers.

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>>3295837
>refute claims that there is no white poverty
>proceed to claim only niggers are poor
bigot logic

Just gonna put this video here
https://youtu.be/rHXAYddPLsM

>>3279645
Why is america such a shithole?
No way you would ever need that in australia, i don't even lock my doors and the only cops i ever see is the odd faggot holding a speed camera.

>>3296763
Blacks.

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>>3296763
IT was the first of it's kind anon.

>>3267978

Yes, it fucking sucks.

Plz stay in your great state.

>>3270835
>M16A1
>Clearly a M16A2

>>3295888
White poverty is ignored because the confronting it would mean people who shit on non whites would have to acknowledge poverty in their communities and other demographics and the issues similar and unique between each

>>3296763
Our country is full of dangerous, low IQ barbarians. Our cities are the toilet of the world.

>>3266007
GTA III, the game that takes place in the year 2001 about thirty years after the seventies ended?

>>3296850

It isn't a Miami PD officer either.

>>3296869
>Our cities are the toilet of the world.

Now that I think about it, this is probably true.

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>>3296763
>Why is america such a shithole?
It's a complete mystery.

Protip: my dad lives in a 99% white town in southern Idaho. Never locks his door, never got anything stolen.

>>3296864
White poverty is ignored because our public consciousness is created by professors at Harvard and Stanford, Hollywood liberals and Jew York City corporate execs. These people have literally never been to Appalachia or Oklahoma, they are mentally incapable of comprehending that a white person can be poor.

>>3297023
No not at all. Academia actually studies it often bit the politicians of those places don't do jackshit at all.

>>3297037
Yet it was the academia coming up with nonsensical concepts like white privilege.

>>3297047
No its because white Americans don't care about poor people duh. America has no class consciousness or empathy for the poor.

>>3297052
Nobody cares for the poor people, has nothing to do with whites. Blacks who get rich (athletes, artists) typically aren't going out of their way to solve poverty, they post pictures of themselves with money stacks on instagram and call poor people peasants.

>>3297059
>Blacks who get rich (athletes, artists) typically aren't going out of their way to solve poverty, they post pictures of themselves with money stacks on instagram and call poor people peasants.

Actually many do donate to good causes and charities or Gove back in someway like many well off folk. Don't know why you had to bring up rich blacks though.

>>3297062
Because you made it sound like hating poor people is something exclusively to whites.

>>3297062
>Implying the rich don't donate to charity for the tax breaks