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Obscure civilizations

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I'll start with the patrician connoisseur choice: the Jiroft civilization, it developed in Eastern Iran and Afghanistan around 2500 bc, it's one of the oldest civilizations in the world and it's contemporary to Sumerians, the Indus valley civilization and Egypt, it seems to have had contacts with both the IVC and Sumerians
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Weird symbols, writing?

We do not know
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They also had a huge step pyramids bigger than all contemporary Sumerian ziqqurats
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Fuck...
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Fuck me in the asshole this shit looks so good
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Fuuuck the hell is this?
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Fuck!
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While i appreciate the ancient archeology, the continuing statements that these are "first human civilisations" are grossly untrue. Evidence of human art and impact are found 72,000 years old in Australia.....just because a culture decided to look after the environment and learn to live with it, istead of destoying it, does not make them any less a civilisatikn. Indigenous Australians today are often more creative with resources than any Aryan....and didnt have to murder millions or steal countries to do it. just saying.
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Lost ones that have been found after clearing the amazon rainforest
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>>3252537
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There were many now lost in the jungle.
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>>3252537
...DATING???
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>>3252530
This is probably bait, but google the archaeological definition of a civilization if you don't know it.
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>>3252550

Why does it matter?
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>>3252550
Probably when the spanish came. Remember that near 90 percent of natives died due to all the diseases.
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>>3252530
>and didnt have to murder millions or steal countries
The noble savages, living in peace with mother nature, never killing or hurting each other, never fighting. Truly, they are the superior human being, we should strive to be more like them.
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>>3252558
ARE YOU JOKING?

IT IS VERY RELEVANT
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>>3252564

I don't get it. Why?
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>>3252563
Why do you have to fall for his bait and ruin a good thread?
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>>3252537
>>3252541
>>3252546
Does that mean the Amazon rainforest is only few centuries old?
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>>3252611
Rainforest is 55 million years old, amazons learned how to cultivate the acidic soil through blending charcoal and waste into the ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta
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>>3252667
But there were cities? They obviously didn't build cities in the jungle, right?
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>>3252697
The diseases killed 90% of the people. We don't know if they had cities, the oral tradition remnants say that there were a kind of aristocracy of a huge population near the Amazon River.
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>>3252697
Just stop for a second and consider this.

>Centuries, if not millenia, ago humans cleared an area of forest
>They constructed buildings there and lived there for however long they did
>For some reason, they were wiped out or chose to migrate, abandoning their cities, towns or villages
>Gradually the forest reclaims the area that was cleared
>In 2017, an anon finds it difficult to understand how this could possibly happen
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>>3252426
God damn, don't get me wrong I'm a massive byza and civil war-boo. But these ancient civilizations have always fascinated me, totally want to know what happened in the bronze age.
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>>3252737
>Centuries, if not millenia, ago humans cleared an area of forest
So the rainforest in these "areas" is just few centuries old.
And since
>>3252710
>The diseases killed 90% of the people
we can assume these "areas" were pretty numerous. Right?
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>>3252770
>the rainforest in these "areas" is just few centuries old.
Who said this? I've got no fucking clue where this archaeological site, nor the details of it. It could be a ruined military base from the Finno-Korean Hyper War for all I know.

The implication of the OP was that it was pre-Colombian, which means that, at the very least, the site is something like 500 years old. I don't even know why you're so hung up about the age of the forest.

>The diseases killed 90% of the people
The guy meant 90% of Native Americans, across both continents.

You're overcomplicating this so much.
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>>3252843
I looked it up and I couldn't find a 90% figure for North American, but the Meso/South American figure is 90% wiped out due to disease.
"La catastrophe démographique" (The Demographic Catastrophe" from the French history magazine, "L'Historie".
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>>3252923

You ok?
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>>3252843
>>3252923


stop posting like a retard

t. guy who didn't read the thread at all but saw these posts on the front page
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>>3252829
>I don't even know why you're so hung up about the age of the forest.
Because the amazon rainforest is supposed to be a primary forest, which is apparently not the case at least in these areas. It could mean that the rainforest during precolombian era was not much extended.

>The guy meant 90% of Native Americans, across both continents.
>maths
It also implies 90% of the rainforest natives.
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>>3252530
Abos destroyed much of the prehistoric Australian megafauna and tribes genocided each others with abandon.
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>>3252564
There was a recent article that discussed Amazon civilisations and jungle civilisations in general, I might look it up but will not promise anything.
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>>3252440
There's also a fuck huge zigguart in Iran as well.
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>>3252530
Stop trying to derail
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There was a Brythonic-speaking civilisation in the south of Ireland until around the 9th century. The Irish called their language "iron speech" because of how unpleasant it sounded.
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test
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That oughta do it
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>>3252983
18 bobs 2 jeffs

17 bobs die, 1 jeff dies.

10% of bobs and jeffs remain.

5% of bobs remain

50% of jeffs remain.
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>>3253438
>>3252983
9.4%*

Anyways. Yeah. Whether or not it's right. You're wrong here.
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>>3252495
Hottie
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>>3252495
THEY WERE BLACK
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>>3253405
The Tiwanako en Bolivia
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>>3253450
>>3253454
She looks like the alien singer from the third element
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>>3253405
How are the olmecs and the indus valley civilization obscure? Even calling urartu obscure is a stretch. Someone unaware of the indus valley civilization most likely doesn't know about any ancient civilization that isn't egypt, rome, etc.
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>>3253469
It's hair dude.
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>>3252530
you faggots are ruining this board, can't have one nice thread without you fucks coming in trying to bait
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>>3252486

For ~2500 BC that's impressive
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>>3252495
>muh dick
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>>3252537
>>3252541
>>3252546
Actually kinda creepy that something like this is just buried in shit trees.
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>>3252757
What do you mean what happened? You mean bronze age collapse? Or just what kind of porn was available?
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>>3253444
He's just looking for an excuse to deforest the Amazon.

hurr iff tribals did it 500 years ago that means it must be okay to clearcut today rite/!?!??!
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>>3252426

3500 years ago isn't ancient,
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>>3253405
>tfw shitty monitor I cant read these on.
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>>3252530
>decided to look after the environment and learn to live with it, istead of destoying it, does not make them any less a civilisatikn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming

>Indigenous Australians today are often more creative with resources than any Aryan....and didnt have to murder millions or steal countries to do it. just saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization
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>>3252495
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Nuragic is prolly my fav, just something you'd never learn about normally unless you were taking a high level course in college
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>>3252551
Defined as "The Art of living in Cities".
Anything other than this is projecting.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Chico_civilization
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>>3253803
That's 4500 years ago and what do you means it's not ancient?

Romans are classified as ancient and their empire ended 1500 years ago
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>>3252440
the thumbnail looks like a weird bathroom scale
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>>3252464
its my dick in a basket?
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>>3252495
what kinda stone is that? must have taken months to carve
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>>3252570
Not him, but I'd like to know too.
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>>3253791
i also sniffed out that same impression
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>>3253087
More info please?
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>>3254027
Yeah they really left behind a lot of monuments
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>>3252530
0/10 bait
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>>3254164
Nice
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>>3252564
>>3253037
Might not be exactly what you look for but here you go:
http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/summer-2017/article/humans-have-been-altering-tropical-forests-for-at-least-45-000-years
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