Pig history, Pig culture

We've learned that pigs are much friendlier and form little family units when given plenty of room to run around.

Americans are pretty alright until you get them started on foreign policy.

>>3226956
>friendlier
Pigs are disguisting omnivores, they even eat humans when they get the chance.

>>3226950

Pigs are efficient in turning any kind of waste into meat
They have lots of young, moreso than chickens
They are excellent at wooden enviroments, because rooting through woody soil is their thing
More resilient than cattle
More prone to parasites that also infect humans
Like mud

It's only desert-dwellers that dislike pigs, and that's because the nastiest parasites live in those climates, while mud is scarce and forests the same

Geography being the mover of destiny yet again

>>3227484
>nastiest parasites live in the deserts
Really? What parasites inhabit, say, saudi arabia?

>>3227490
arabs

>>3227494
I knew that was coming kek

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have a bump with this one

Why do Pigs have big balls and why do they turn me on???

>>3227574
Because you like big balls?

Pigs can also have 30 minute long orgasms

>>3226956
Bet at least one of those pigs has bite marks on it and they go apeshit at eachother whenever food is introduced

>>3227582
That usually happens due to stress induced by cramped living conditions. For example, sows are far less likely to savage their own young in free range conditions where they have the space and means to build furrows of their own.

The cutting of the pig or "ignat" is a pre-christian Romanian tradition where the whole family takes part in killing and butchering the pig.
Spiced mulled wine or warm tuica(schnnaps) is served during the process.
After the end a "pig's wake" is had where fresh pork is cooked in an iron pot (ceaun) with wine and spices then served to the family and helpers alongside polenta and salted cheese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHw1596lfNU

>>3226950
Sausages are tasty as fuck.

>>3226950

Pigs are exceptionally intelligent,more so even than dogs. They do provide an economic benefit in their use hunting truffles, but their main ability is to turn inedible crap like leftovers and acorns into delicious pork.

Jews don't eat them because the Canaanites were famous pig breeders, and the new Israelite religious movement wanted to define itself in opposition to the gentiles. It was further cemented in Jewish law during the Babylonian Captivity, when fierce adherence to dietary laws served the purpose of preventing the Jews from being able to share meals with other peoples, thus greatly increasing the Israelites resistance to becoming assimilated into the cosmopolitan culture of their conquerors, as so many other peoples were.

Muslims ban pork because Mohemmed started his grift by pretending to be a prophet of Judaism, and by the time he turned on the Jews after he failed all their tests of prophethood and were shunned by them, the Mosaic dietary laws were already baked into the new religion he had shat out.

>>3227484
>It's only desert-dwellers that dislike pigs, and that's because the nastiest parasites live in those climates, while mud is scarce and forests the same

This is a myth, pigs were domesticated in the middle east and their meat is no more prone to parasites and disease than that of other mammals, less so even given how easily pork can be preserved. Modern desert dwellers shun pork for purely religious reasons.

>>3227639
And how did the religious reasons come about?

>>3227601
It's tipical of Spain and I bet any civ than doesn' hate piggies, La matanza del cerdo is a good reason for city dweller to return to they ancient town and make merry while slaughtering a pig and make delicious stuff like blood sasuages or chorizos.

>>3227760

I heard its because pigs in the desert have to be fed using the same food that humans ate, and so keeping pigs was the same thing as enriching yourself with fancy pig meat while your fellow man died of hunger that you could have helped feed.

Translated to internet-speak, "those rich guys with pigs are being such jews".

Do all domesticated pigs descend from a single pair of pigs?

>>3227850
It seems they were domesticated a few times over, or the domesticated breeded with feral ones to such a way than isn't easy to pin it down if it was the case.

I read that the medical health craze of the 20th century ruined the genetics of american breeds so that all you're left with is ultra lean tasteless pig breeds.
Interesting topic honestly.

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>>3227901
It ruined the majority of races, thanks good in my country we revere those fuckers or good pork would be incredible hard to find.

>>3227633
interesting story, didn't know mohammed was jewish

>>3226950
There's been recently a study which proves pigs were traded between Sicily, South Italy and Sardinia as far back as 1600 bc

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306345788_Like_a_pig_out_of_water_seaborne_spread_of_domestic_pigs_in_Southern_Italy_and_Sardinia_during_the_Bronze_and_Iron_Ages

My only question is how the fuck did they do it, wouldn't the pigs bite them?

>>3227984
What's with Sicily/Sardinia and retard posters.

>>3227984

How? it would take years to get to Sardinia at the time because of the shitty boats.

>>3228014
Years? It wasn't possible back then.

>>3228003
You need non coastal navigation which was discovered by Portoguese to do that

>>3227471

Pigs only eat flesh when starved.

>>3228014
They subsided on the pigs during the voyage, retard.

>>3228251
Wrong, I've kept pigs and if you throw them a bone with some flesh on it and some regular feed, they will prefer to chew the bone.

>>3227984
I don't think Sardinia existed in the 17th century.

>>3228285
This. If you stick your finger through the fence to scratch them they will bite it if their head is anywhere near it. I've even seen them cannibalize their freshly born young.

>>3227598
I have worked with pigs all my life, they are cunts, they're fucking stupid too and never learn what an electric fence does

>>3227832
Probably also the possibility of parasites such as Trichinosis before international health agencies where around to eradicate and treat such outbreaks.
Afro-Asiatic people all seem to also share some kind of fish taboo which probably comes from their roots as a pastorialist people who would prefer meat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_drink_prohibitions#Fish

>>3227832

You heard from an idiot, then. Pigs were literally domesticated in the middle east, you think this happened with nothing to feed them on? The prohibition on pig meat was intended to keep the Israelites from mixing with the local Canaanites, who were proverbially famous pig breeders.

>>3227951
>HURR

Reading is hard, huh? Fucking simpleton.

>>3226950
Got any oats, Brother?

>>3228477
NO OATS

>>3228486
>>3228477

AM I NOT A BROTHER AND A PIG?

The only interesting pig history I can think of is the Scottish Pork Taboo. Scotland had a Semite-style taboo on pork up until 1800.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_pork_taboo

>>3228489
NO OATS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhSyvkkdZA

>>3226950
that's a big pig

>>3230443
For ewes

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Are there mentions of sexual encounters between pigs and human? And then how do you explain Slavs?

King James Bible

Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

Is it true that pigs are descendants of prehistoric carnivores?

>>3226950
May i have some?

>>3227901
It's more factory farming led most farmers to only breed a few kinds that are good for their business demands. I really need to find local farmers and specialty guys or start doing it myself.

Spanish pigs caused immense local damage on the islands of the Caribbean and wherever they were introduced on the native populations. They were big hulking brutes that would trample fields and charge at the Indians that would try and disperse them. Communities would starve due to the breadth of damage those piggies could cause.

Pigs were also good for their Hardy nature. You could let then feast in the forest until winter and then have hunts to catch them and then carve up the ones that wouldn't survive and pot the meat to preserve it.

>>3230764
Why wouldn't they be? Pigs are carnivores/omnivores. They regularly eat children and sometimes full grown people who fall into their pens.

>>3227471
They don't eat people generally.

>>3232301
>generally
It's only because they "generally" don't get the chance.

>>3226950
Nilo-Saharans brought a small black light into the Congolese rainforests from the Nile River.

>>3230500
>humans will never domesticate giant boars and ride them into battle

Porkers are friends not food

>>3232382
>This kills the Magna Graecian

I enjoy eating pig.

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What's going on here?

>>3230500
ok camera tricks aside how big do you think that hog is?

>>3232333
Hey, hey YOU!

Ask me about the transmission of Nile Valley Pigs to Central Africa please

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>>3231131
Lies and slanders, do you think this cutie could bully big, burly Indians?

>>3232598
Finish the story you lazy asshole.

>>3226950
> An animal that gives heavy ecological pressure in places with not much water and arable land
> Gets forbidden in desert cultures because it puts too big of a strain on agriculture
> muslims think this is because the sky angel told them so through a scizophrenic pedofile

>>3232612
Are there pigs in central africa? how and why would pastoral nomads bring them there if there is little to no land for pasture on the trail

>>3226950
OATS
BROTHER

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>>3234855

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>>3227577
>Pigs can also have 30 minute long orgasms
Is it possible to have a transplantation of pig genitals?
f-from a historical point of view of course

>>3230500
forced perspective, is anyone gonna believe him when he shows this picture back home?

>>3234864
>Are there pigs in central africa?

Yes
>how and why would pastoral nomads bring them there if there is little to no land for pasture on the trail

It happened before the end of dessication occurred and the swineherds were pushed out more and more by Muslim cowherds and Farmers.

>>3227571
I bet she(?) is soft. Are they hostile?

>>3227901
All meat is awful in America. I can't even eat it when I go south, even at 'good' restaurants. I'm not paying a fortune to get a meal at an 'amazing' place, just to get decent meat.
Even cheap pork is good here when cooked properly. Then there's beef. Prime rib here is so fatty and rich, that a well-done steak is still incredibly moist and tender, moreso than pork.
Wild elk is still the best, though, but so easy to ruin.

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>>3234855
that's rich coming from a schizo pedo neet

>>3227951
Judaism wasn't uncommon in pre-islamic western Arabia.

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Wonder who's behind this thread...

>>3237626
>the eternal gaul
t. Caesar

>>3228361

It's more likely from the association of eating fish with the coastal peoples, who were also the ones continually invading the pastoralists and farmers of the interior for slaves.

>>3230500

Humans and pigs aren't "compatible", the pig penis is very long and curly. But I'm sure some humans have raped pigs from time to time, just like they do other domesticated animals. Just they'd have to stick to ass-fucking it, and giving but not receiving.

>>3228530
Could someone please explain this OATS-meme to me? I've never understood it.

>>3230764

They're ungulates related to bison, elk, camels, and whales. Some ungulates are carnivorous or omnivorous but they started out as grazing herbivores.

>>3232418
>>3226950

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cUX-prmAx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssqFwebypAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdY1QqbbqSE

The Carolingian era Franks loved eating pork.

>>3234855
>animal is unsuited to the environment in which it was first domesticated

Obviously some Bedouin camel herder isn't going to be breeding pigs, but Arabia is not a monoclimate and there are plenty of parts with very reliable year-round water and plenty of inedible stuff for pigs to eat.

The reason muslims don't eat pigs is because Mohemmed copied over the Jewish prohibition, and the reason the Jews don't is because their neighbors the non-Israelite Canaanites bred pigs, and by banning pig for Israelites the priests ensured the small Israelite population did not mix with the larger gentile population and become assimilated.

>>3234864

Pigs do extremely well in jungles.

>>3237757

There are some oats. A brother wants said oats. BUT THERE ARE NO OATS.

>>3237780
>French have always been cannibals

Figures.

>>3237780
>
Everyone but Ayyyrabs and jews loved pork, the chinks consider them a signg of wealth, papuans tend to pay blood money with pigs, Iberians loved porc so much you can find statues from them in some of the anicent cities and fall short of worshiping the iberian pig.
Pork is love, pork is live.

>>3226957
Oh you.avi

>>3237786
The Pig was a taboo in desert cultures (e.g. Egypt)long before the jews

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Were boars Gallic deity, or a symbol of poer/military might?

If they had a boar deity, what was its name?

>>3237847

Aristocratic Egyptians did not eat pig, for unknown reasons that are as likely cultural as they are taboo (there's no evidence that the Set Animal is a pig, it's just a monster of some kind) but pigs were raised and eaten by the Egyptians in great numbers right down to the Muslim takeover.

>>3237848

They were symbolic. Celtic clans often had what you might call a totem animal, apparently the wild boar was a popular choice. But Celtic deities were humaniform for the most part, they didn't go in for animal gods or the kinds of hybrids the Egyptians loved. There was Kernunos, the god of the Hunt, who wears antlers, but this could be representing a shamanic crown of some kind rather than being meant as literal horns.

>>3227490
Really?

>>3228260
What about water, you mean water more than food

>>3228285
>>3228338
Now could you list all other variables involved and why were you scratching pigs

>>3237899
>>>3228285
>>3228338

I've worked with pigs in the lab, they're extremely intelligent and gentle creatures and it broke my heart every time we vivisected one. If a pig tried to bite you, I'm guessing you're the kind of asshole who deserves to be bitten by a pig.

Anyone got a source on this "Canaanites loved pigs so Jews were autistic contrarians" thing?

>>3237911
>Isaiah 65:3-4
>"A people who continually provoke Me to My face, Offering sacrifices in gardens and burning incense on bricks; Who sit among graves and spend the night in secret places; Who eat swine's flesh, And the broth of unclean meat is in their pots"

This is Yahweh's verdict on the Canaanites, note the importance placed on the use of pigs as sacrifices to their gods.

>>3232598
d u k e

>>3237942
That says nothing about why the Jews don't eat pork though. Just that pigs are unclean.

>>3237969

Officially it is chukim but the historical facts of the the early Israelites being Canaanite converts lead by a sect of Egyptians makes it a very (((useful))) mitzvot, and this passage in Isaiah both attest to this interpretation of the origin of the practice.

>>3237865
Can't eind thé source now, but i read and Oxford article on Pig taboo in ptolemaic Egypt, and People who kept P
Pigs where Often looked down upon for the ecological strain they put on the land, it also mentioned that desert nomads despised other nomads who kept pigs because they would ruin much of the scarse pasture they needed, so no sky fairy, but geography and culture

>>3227471
>they even eat humans
How dare they? What did we ever do to them?

>>3237789
Well not entirely. Their is a pig killing disease in most parts of Africa's rainforest. These pigs in northern DRC we're in the drier woodlands.

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Brother..

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>>3237819

PORK, it's the meat of kings,
It's made from pig - try it with onion rings.
PORK sure goes with everything, 'cause
It's made from swine that's why it sure tastes fine.

Just bring some to the picnic, baby,
You know you wanna stuff it in my hamper;
But please put it in some Tupperware,
'Cause I don't wanna be a PORKy chancer!

Let's talk about PORK,
Converse about meat,
Veggies need wedgies
'Cause meat can't be beat!

Ham and bacon - you should taste them;
I know it's surprising but it's so appetising!

>>3238709

NO OATS

>>3226950
The oats brother...

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>>3227760
>And how did the religious reasons come about?

Because the Jews were goat herding desert nomads while pigs were raised by sedentary farmers, so the pork taboo was a way to Jews to differentiate themselves from others and maintain control over the tribe.

Same goes for circumcision and the taboo against shellfish.

>>3238754

Kind of but not really. Circumcision is an Egyptian custom, Moses brought it with him. Shellfish were eschewed for the same reason as pig, because they were the chief food of a major rival (in the case of shellfish, the Philistines), and by banning Jews from eating them Moses and the Levites made it next to impossible for Jews and non-Jews to share a meal, which in turn makes it impossible for Jews to assimilate into the non-Jew majority.

>>3238719
>It's made from pig - try it with onion rings.
I've up untill I read your post always heard it as:
>It's made from patriots with onion rings!

>>3238774
Pork taboo also was Egyptian. It was seen as rather unclean. Fish taboo of Egyptian priests came as a semi-taboo of many kinds of common fish found in the Nile like catfish.

>>3238794

Egyptians bred and ate pigs. Egyptian upper class apparently looked down on them and did not eat them, certainly possible Moses (himself an Egyptian) held a cultural bias against pigs before he founded his cult, but the chief reason he made pig an absolute taboo was to keep his small-ish band of followers from mixing with the locals. This was doubly important because only Moses and the Levites actually came from Egypt, the other tribes were all native Canaanites who converted to Judaism and became the Israelites.

>>3238774

Jewish myths (cooked up in the last century) are not historical evidence, it's far more likely that the pork-shellfish taboo was a simple way for tribal priests to keep the nomadic desert Jewish tribes separate from the coastal sedentary farming peoples.

Though now that I think about it, I do remember reading something that circumcision was picked up from the Egyptians.

>>3238910
>nomadic desert Jewish tribes

No such thing. The Levites crossed a desert t reach Israel, the other tribes already lived in Israel when Moses arrived.

>>3238794
>>3238825
>>3238910
As I understand it, the problem with pigs is that they can eat garbage and survive, so most people fed them garbage.

This resulted in them being unsanitary, so ancient religions had to include specific provisions against eating that deadly shit.

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>>3228519
We are a lost tribe of Israel

>>3238952

No. Pigs were the main animal bred for food across the middle east before Islam, and Islam bans pigs because it copied from Judaism. It's not "ancient religions", it's ancient religion singular, ie, Judaism.

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>>3238931
>>Jewish myths
>The Levites crossed a desert t reach Israel, the other tribes already lived in Israel when Moses arrived.

Like I said...

>>3238972
>Pigs were the main animal bred for food across the middle east before Islam,

Well, pigs were raised in agricultural-urban areas but for most of the MidEast, it was sheep and goats, which is why the Jews had a taboo against pigs; only city slickers ate pork.

>and Islam bans pigs because it copied from Judaism.

True.

People hate pigs because they remind them too much of themselves.

We're all just a bunch of pigs that learned how to talk, pretending to be primates. Oink oink.

>>3238910
Another reason could be the harmful bacteria that starts to form once they are dead and there are also other types of poisoning from shellfish.

>>3238671
kek

>>3238688
>The Aryan master race

>>3239869
t.George Orwell

A thread about pigs is much better than 10 nazi/africa/communism threads combined

>>3240945
Leftist and rightist are subswines

>>3237757
It's a stupid robot meme, it doesn't have to make sense

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>>3237819

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>>3238966
>>3238966
Tbqh.

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>>3237778
free the pigs! (then eat them)