They are underdeveloped because they have no access to resou-

>>3215955

Literally all of those are controlled by foreign corporations now, and prior to that, they were controlled by foreign governments.

So they have one of each item?

responding to your own strawman in the OP should be a bannable offense

>>3215955
aint got time fo dat cracka shit

>what is the resource curse

>>3215955
They're underdeveloped people of

1. Population boom caused by advancing medical care
2. Being the cold wars unrecognized playground for Capitalist-Communist ideological wars
3. Being absolutely fucking exploited to shit by corporations
4. Trying to go from being undeveloped to developed in the same length of time as Soviet Russia or Communist China but without gigantic reforms and 5 year plans and larger than life dictators controlling most of the continent

>>3215976
Actually they were controlled by their own government. Nigeria's government was the same as England's government, for example.

>>3216031
They were undeveloped way before then. Face it, sub-saharan African "civilizations" are like the retarded, deformed baby that everyone is just supposed to pretend is cute even though the babbies around it were building cathedrals, castles, and universities many centuries before anything of note in Africa.

>>3216070
>many centuries before anything of note in Africa.
>centuries
Wow it's fucking nothing, it took humanity existing 190,000 years before we had any civilization, so you can forgive africans for being a bit behind given the impassible desert between them and where it developed and spread from.

>>3216070
Literally the only time they were majorly exposed to trans eurasian trade routes which leads to the exposure of complex ideas was through colonization, which then was replaced by the cold war. African's haven't even had a chance to develop yet until now with China actually investing in something besides resource extraction

>>3216070

>Europe before the Romans.

>>3215955
whenever they try to use those resources for themselves some (((westerners))) get assblasted that they don't get a cut for no reason so they send in men with guns to overthrow whoever had the spine to try to actually look after their people and replace them with cronies and gangsters

>>3215955
Do people on /his/ really doubt that Africa is a shithole mainly because of what Africans are like? I thought we realized that, we just differ from /pol/ in that we don't think it's ok to treat those below us sociopathically and we don't think fascism is a good idea.

>>3216118
>Minoans
>Mycenaean

But let me guess, dey wuz kangz?

Kill yourself you pathetic negrophile

>>3216165
Are they shit people because their countries are shitholes, or are their countries shitholes because they're shit people?

The answer is complex, but the parallel experience of Australia, as an equally isolated part of earth, lends credence to the idea that civilization is a gradual process taking root over millennia, and that the geographical isolation of a region from more dynamic parts of the globe can slow development to the point where cultures become nearly unrecognizable to more advanced parts of the globe.

TL;DR niggers

>>3216179
>implying Minoans and Myceneans were white

>>3216109
>Transeurasian trade routes is why they couldn't invent the fucking wheel
lmao

Also they had trade with both Europe and Asia through the Indian Ocean and Mali respectively

>>3215955
Niggers, niggers, niggers, niggers, niggers, nuke them all.

>>3216193
Hmm almost like I predicted your retardation
>>3216179
>But let me guess, dey wuz kangz?

>>3216195
>don't need wheels to do hunter-gatherer shit
>don't build wheels

It goes farming, then all the cool shit.

>>3215955
>they have no capital to develop these and most that are developed are owned by foreign interests

>>3216212
So which is it, they're undeveloped because they didn't have contact or because they didn't need to?

>>3216185
It's not that they're shit people, and I have no negative feelings towards them. I wish them the best and I hope that they figure their problems out. I just think they're worse in abstract thinking and long-term planning than whites on average, and that makes an enormous difference. I'd rather not that it were so, but the fact that there are probably 100 times more significant white scientists and inventors than black ones makes it hard to doubt. That's not to say that there are no genius-level Africans. I'm just talking about averages. I mean, I guess we could say that their circumstances have retarded their development, but for most of its history Europe was a disease-ridden shithole full of small nations fighting each other while believing in various absurd religions, yet Europeans created modern civilization.

>>3216237
>but the fact that there are probably 100 times more significant white scientists and inventors than black ones makes it hard to doubt. T
How is this a valid point in any way? You make no logical sense. OF course there are more white countries scientists, whites are more developed than black countries, you can't just have scientists pop up from a fucking undeveloped country.

>>3216246
> you can't just have scientists pop up from a fucking undeveloped country.
but they did in Europe

>>3216212
>never develop beyond hunter-gatherer societies
>Everyone else is at fault

>>3216070
*revisionism intensifies*

>>3216195
You do realize that the wheel has been thought to be invented only twice. Once in the new world, and once in the old world. It spread really through, you guessed it, trade, conquest, and diffusion. It's the same shit with writing, tl;dr most people copy, they don't invent themselves

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>>3216193
They had the same DNA Greeks had today.

>>3216247
Not quite. Scientists in Europe came from the more developed countries. Albania, for example, has negligible scientific output and always has had.

>>3216247
Which was a literal 400 year process from the development of the scientific method to Industrialization and imperialism. It's ridiculous to expect them to be on the same level as Euros in only 60 years, especially for most of those 60 years they've been under the mercy of Neocolonial interests.

Why do people act like ~50 years of independence should have been enough for Africa to develop itself?

They spent the last century under foreign occupation and millennia before that effectively isolated from the wider world in tsetse hell with no access to most cereal grains, no tractable livestock and few navigable waterways. On independence most of them were left with fucking nothing. You could count the number of college degrees Belgium left the Congo on one hand (which is just as well, because Belgium also only left them one hand). What the fuck do you niggers expect them to achieve in less than a century?

>>3216259
I mean originally, in the first place. Europe wasn't that developed in the 5th century BC, when Greeks created their intellectual revolution... and it wasn't that developed in the 16th century AD, either, when the Renaissance got going.

>>3216259
Nope. Scientist came from all over Europe.

>>3216271
Why weren't they on the same level as Europe to begin with, when the first contact began between sub-Saharan Africa and modern Europe?

>>3216271
Cont. 15th AD century Africa wasn't even as intellectually developed as 3rd century BC Europe.

>>3216247

How even is a scientist is born, what is he going to do if he is dirt poor?

It took europe hundreds of years to reach a capacity inwhich scientists are generated.

Africa barely transitioned from hunter gather to an agriculture society.

>>3216298
Why were those regions so dirt poor that scientists could not exist in them?

>>3216294

Europe had a frame work from the greek and romans.

Which in turn they had a frame work from the early civilizations in the middle east.

Africa didn't even have a contact, plus agriculture is hard due to climate.

>>3216247
What? European science took thousands of years to develop, with many setbacks, from the initial inquiries of a bunch of Greeks who were mostly making shit up. That was only possible to begin with because they lived in a part of the world rich in food to keep them alive and with high stone walls to protect them while they drew their circles.

If a fucking Bantu nomad sat down to draw a fucking circle he would get eaten by a fucking lion and his family would die of starvation because they had no high yield crops. How many scientists are they supposed to produce?

>>3216308
Why did Africa never develop its own framework?

>>3216311
>le "nomads have it harder than seditary farmers" meme
Already disproven.

>>3216254
>most people copied the wheel, therefore Africans are not stupid for not being able to invent a fucking cylinder with a hole

>>3216306

Because scientist need funding and alot of funding can be used for better purposes.

Plus schools were probably damaged due to the civil wars that happened.

>>3216294
Because they were isolated from Greek intellectual tradition which spurred the renaissance due to the fall of constantinople to the muslims and the fleeing Greek refugees. This wouldn't be an issue if like I said originally, they were more integrated with the world trade network.

>>3216311
It's not like Europe was a paradise before Europeans civilized it. It's not like high stone walls were just sitting around before Europeans built them. And it's not like Europe was rich in food before Europeans innovated new food gathering and farming techniques. Maybe a bit more rich than Africa, but it was no land of milk and honey.

>>3216314

crops in Africa were shit compared to the ones Europe got from the middle east.

>>3216319
We're talking about many hundreds of years ago.
>>3216321
Why did they not develop their own version of the Greek intellectual tradition?

>>3216318
Europeans never invented agriculture or writing, they imported it, by your logic does that make white people retarded too?

>>3216247
>but they did in Europe
Except they absolutely did not. You're equating medieval or early modern with undeveloped. You're confusing lack of modern technology with undeveloped.

Development refers to the level or organisation not whether you have an iphone.

>>3216314
there a great deal of reasons but i feel like the reason your inching for is "dey inferior to da white man"

>>3216328

They did not have a high enough population density or funding.

>>3216336
I already said earlier that I believe Africans to be on average less intelligent than whites. I'm not inching toward it. I'm not saying they're inferior - that's a separate matter. Inferior in intelligence? Yes.

>>3216329
>Europeans imported it
From whom? The Middle East doesn't exist. It was a construct of he British empire in the 19th century. Mediterranean people invented both the wheel and written language.

>>3216328
Lack of writing, which was imported by the greeks, from Mesopotamian civilizations to record old modes of thinking. Which would be less of a problem if THEY WERE MORE INTEGRATED IN GLOBAL TRADE NETWORKS like I've been saying you dense fucking mong.

>>3216274
It's not that they've failed to develop, they've actually regressed.

Watch empires of dust

The people claiming its BECAUSE NIGGERS always have absolutely no idea how states development or how civilization works.

They expect the black man to spontaneously create a modern infrastructure and also scientists from a state of tribalism.

>>3216346
From fucking Israel.

>>3216311
>part of the world rich in food
Zimbabwe was the fucking breadbasket of Africa.

kys cucky

>>3216350

>Focuses on the worst country as an example for the whole continent.

Do you have any proof than 1 documentary

>>3216324
Europe had grains which literally never reached sub saharan africa. They had many navigable rivers to facilitate commerce. They did not have vast death zones of tsetse flies. The Mediterranean was quite literally a land of milk and honey.

>>3216357

>White people learned how to use machines and modern agriculture practice they learned

>Black people did not know how to use machines or modern agriculture practices.

So what, what does this prove?

>>3216353
Israel and Greece are both Mediterranean Civilization.

>>3216234
Because

>they didn't have contact
>they didn't develop sufficient agricultural technology

Both of which would reinforce one another.

>>3216366
Yes, i was joking, because our written language comes from the Phoenicians, which is now Israel. The Wheel also comes from Kazakhstan

>>3216358
South African crime rates.

>>3216366
>sumer was on the mediterranean
It's time to stop posting anon

You all seem to be so convinced that there's no way it could possibly be that they're just less intelligent on average for biological reasons.
I can understand disagreeing with me, but why are you so convinced?
Are you at least open to the possibility that it's for biological reasons?
Individuals differ in intelligence, and there's almost certainly a genetic component to that. It would be surprising if there were NOT differences in the average intelligence of races.

>>3216350
Regressed from what, exactly?

>>3216374
It was culturally Mediterranean. They mostly interacted with Levantines, Anatolian and Egyptians. They themselves had extensive relations religiously, genetically culturally and physically with Mediterranean peoples.

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>>3216372

Crime was always this high, the regime hides it in order to make it more appealing to whites who want to immigrate.

Also give me more proof with stats that show Africa is getting worse.

>>3216370
>>3216374
The Egyptians developed writing contemporaneously with Mesopotamia.

Our alphabet derives from the Egypt's 24 unilateral signs.

You learned something today, and now my sticky learning juices are in your knowledge hole.

>>3216357
After Europeans introduced high yield grains. Christ, you're dumber than an actual zimbabwe nigger.

>>3216379
>You all seem to be so convinced that there's no way it could possibly be that they're just less intelligent on average for biological reasons.
Because it's the easy answer which requires no intelligence though (the irony).

It's clearly not for biological reasons, the Romans would have been making the exact same racial arguments against North Europeans, you realise this? That every single argument you make now could be made against North Europeans in 200AD.

>>3216379
People acting stupid or uncivilized is pretty common.

It doesn't make sense to me to use genetic differences to explain something that was the universal norm for all humans until very recently in our development.

Especially since Northern Europe was completely illiterate at the time when the Babylonians had cities of a quarter million.

>>3216384
It was culturally Mesopotamian you twonk, all those others were inward looking, not outward, Rome and Greece and Carthage were Mediterranean because they controlled and used the sea, but these cultures did not to any significant degree.

>>3216379
IQ rates in Africa are similar to IQs in the rural US 100 years ago. Did white people evolve higher iqs in the last century?

>>3216392
Did Romans write that North Europeans were stupid, or just that they were savage? Cause there's a difference.

>>3216399

Whats the difference?

>>3216388
The form we use is developed from Phoenicians..

>>3216329
The difference is Europeans could easily import it, while Africans never had the chance. They did have another 5.000 years to invent it on their own.

>>3216398
Probably not, but let's see comparative intelligence tests of whites and blacks with the same socioeconomic backgrounds.

>>3216397
>It was culturally Mesopotamian you twonk
Mesopotamia didn't exist in a bubble.

>>3216384
>invented civilization
>is part of a subset of a subset of a thing that it created itself
No anon

>>3216397
Egypt had a large trade network though.

It's dumb to divide it into culturally Mesopotamian or culturally Mediterranean when they were connected to both.

>>3216399
Both
They would have arguments about how the Northerners would not be able to adopt Roman civilization because they are inferior.

>>3216410
The oldest structures are in Russia so I don't think they invented anything.

>>3216404
Savage is when you say "they have strange customs"
Stupid is when you say "they're stupid"

>>3216406
Yeah, but the Phoenicians got it from the Egyptians.

So really, the only people who can say that they didn't import their system of writing from someone else are Egyptians and Chinese.

>>3216413
Sources?

>>3216321
> MFW Alexander the Great, emperor of greece, conquered Egypt/Nubia.
> MFW Rome did the same a few centuries later
>MFW Ancient Egypt was one of the first civilizations

Nigga the fuck are you saying

>>3216409
>Mesopotamia didn't exist in a bubble.
Except it did when its the birthplace of civilization and it doesn't exist anywhere else.
>>3216411
Yes it is stupid, but Egypts med trade wasn't much more than trade coastal trade along the levant and up to turkey, it's not on the same scale as Carthage or the Phoenicians, but this all depends on which period of egypt we're talking about

>>3216399
My great grandfather was a Rhodesian farmer and his diary describes teaching his black farmhands astronomy and mathematics. He concluded they too were savage, not stupid. What is your basis for saying they are?

>inb4 mugabe's farm disasters
The Russians and Chinese also completely destroyed their own agricultural output on a similar timescale despite being smart enough not to.

>>3216417
And Egyptians are a Mediterranean people.
>>3216415
Savage implies a certain behavior. Not just difference. Ancient Greeks didn't consider the Egyptians or Indians to be savage, for example.

>>3216411
I mean by the same argument you can say it's culturally Arab and Dravidian considering the trade links it had with IVC and Dilmun

>>3216422
>but Egypts med trade wasn't much more than trade coastal trade along the levant and up to turkey,
THAT IS THE CORE MED AT THIS TIME

>>3216415


No it not
noun
1.
(chiefly in historical or literary contexts) a member of a people regarded as primitive and uncivilized.

Check Mate.

Why did you lye to me?

>>3216419
>From classical origins the Hellenic stereotype of barbarism evolved: barbarians are like children, unable to speak or reason properly, cowardly, effeminate, luxurious, cruel, unable to control their appetites and desires, politically unable to govern themselves.
Sounds familiar

>>3216429
So you're just going to continually change the definition to suit your idea that they were Med cultures. If the med trade was 10 feet off the coast of egypt would you say THAT IS THE CORE MED AT THIS TIME

They weren't Med cultures man, they just bordered it, but for Egypt the nile was the basis of culture, and the Euphrates for the Mesopotamians, only really the Anatolians focused on the Med but not that much, they were often far in land and traded overland.

Hmm. Well, you people make some good points, I must admit that. I will have to mull this over. The point about differences in food crop availability and the point about ancient Mediterranean attitudes toward Northern Europeans are particularly interesting. I still suspect there's a biological difference, but I'm open to reconsidering. So I will think things over.

>>3216455
I suggest comparing sub-Saharan Africans to the original inhabitants of Australia and New Guinea.

You'll run into the same basic pattern, hunter-gatherers are not like farmers, and they have an extremely hard time functioning in a farmer's society.

>>3216408
IQ scores are heavily contingent not merely on your own socioeconomic background but your parents'. High economic status correlates with heritability on the order of double digit boosts to IQ. You would need not only equal status but several generations of equal status, which is difficult to find when Jim Crow is within living memory.

>inb4 but muh high iq kikes
We made them our fucking bankers for hundreds of years, of course they had high status. I guarantee you a yiddish peasant from ukraine would score far below a venetian jew.

>>3216455
If in another 50 years nations like Nigeria still haven't clawed their way into functional middle class nationhood I will likewise reconsider my stance.

>>3216469

This

Since the civil wars are stopping in Africa, If they still didn't develop in 50 years from today. I would agree on that biology was the reason why.

>>3216469
Yes. There are many times in my study of things that I wish I could fast forward and take a peek.

>>3216461
Not all Jews did well though. People conflate a couple of top Jews for all jewdom back then.

>>3216470
Civil wars aren't the only thing.

>>3216486

Africa needs stability and civil wars have mostly stopped.

Since they are stable at this point, they could improve more efficiently and in 50 years i expect them to reach levels of south america or even a bit higher.

>>3216358
Reminder that Botswana, literally next door to Rhodesia, accepted black majority rule in 1966, one year after Rhodesia declared independence to preserve white minority rule.

Botswana today has the highest HDI in the region and 50 years of stable constitutional democracy, despite the collapse of the copper market (their main export) and a catastrophic AIDS epidemic.

What do Botswana's most unstable neighbors - South Africa, Mozambique, Zimbabwe - have in common? They all spent decades under minority rule as whites engaged in brutal campaigns of repression to keep blacks out of power.

>>3216274
How did Finland, which was an agrarian shithole before WW2, raise itself to modern standards in 60 years?-How did Japs manage to industrialize at sanic speeds and then go on to beat a world superpower in a war? How about China?

>>3216499

Ya of course, everything in history tells us if the minority rules and the majority dont like it, it will turn to shit one day or another.

>>3216496
I honestly want Africa to develop just to see Central-South American butthurt

>>3216505

They had 1 ethnic majority compared to like 300+ in some African countries.

They lived near powerful countries, thus had get to have an easier time with funding projects.

Plus, they did have some parts of the population as an educated work force.

>>3216516

I would love to see how butthurt they would be and blame it on they were not white enough or socialism.

>>3216314
Farming is pretty hard at most latitudes there
Tsetse Flies fuck over most species of livestock pretty hard, except one or two types of cattle.
Writing is complex enough an idea that only 4 civilizations(Egypt, Phoenicia, MesoAmerica,China) ever figured it out, everyone else just cribbed their neighbors.
Never looked into it, but many on here blame Africas lack of a winter season for stunted forward planning.

>>3216496
On the other hand, as they develop, their conventional warfighting capabilities will dramatically increase. I'm worried that they could just as easily end up in another continental war like the Congo War, only with more ways to strike each other and much more to lose in the process.

Africans are different, they're more interested in living the day by day than in big plans.
the only reason some of those resources are being extracted is outsiders

>>3216535

That is true, but i think they wont do it because they would know lessons from civil wars and how it made their country shit.

Plus as long as 1 country is not more advanced then the other, its less likely to happen. So i expect the land locked countries to lose and merge with the ones with the coast lines.

>>3216553

How can you create an oil company without funding?

>>3216505
Low population numbers for Finland, and more familiarity with European technology and philosophy. Japan started industrializing by Meiji and was given a shit ton of AID by the US after surrender.

>>3216505
Japan had a functioning government and a history of government, much better off population (very literate post ww2 and educated), much more sovereignty then Africa, not fucked by the Cold War and was industrialized before the war

Finland enacted massive social polices to deal with it's issues but before that after World War II, the Soviet Union demanded war reparations from Finland not only in money but also in material such as ships and machinery so this forced them to industrialize. It also played both sides of the Cold War.

>>3216557
you cant

>>3216569

Thank you, every time i talk to someone who says why cant Africans build their won company's to extract natural resources, they always state its something biological not financial and education well on 4chan that is.

>>3216534
>writing only invented four times
Lolwut! There are Târtâriâ tablets found in Romania with writing on them from the 5500 BC and Mesopotamians also had writing back in 4000 BC.

They would be doing at least a LITTLE better if it didn't have every single guy running for elected office in that continent be corrupt

>>3216499
Because Botswana has one dominant ethnic group (Tswana) which doesn't lead to sectarianism and a relatively low population. They also got rich by stabbing fellow Africans in the back during the apartheid era. Because of sanctions against South Africa, one way to get around them was to ship wares to Botswana slap a Made in Botswana sticker on it and give them a share of the cut.

>>3216579
>Târtâriâ tablets
I legitimately never heard of those. Thanks for correcting me. I'll have to look more into it.

>3216578
I dont think the reason is biology, but culture, africans are less contaminated by materialism.

>>3216578
>>3216615

>>3216604
It does certainly help that Botswana was by one of the few nations whose borders happened not to encompass a random mishmash of different cultures. The sheet arbitrariness of the European borders is a major factor in Africa's chronic instability, and is almost impossible to solve because dismembering existing countries isn't a recipe for stability either. It could take centuries for some of these people to acquire a sense of common nationhood, just as it did in Europe.

>>3216604
>Because of sanctions against South Africa, one way to get around them was to ship wares to Botswana slap a Made in Botswana sticker on it and give them a share of the cut.

That's cheeky lol. There are a lot of ways around the sanctions that you wouldn't really believe.

>>3216615

How can you speed up a cultural development?

would media work?

Should we use a specific culture with the best outcome and spread it to nigeria media due to the high number of movies they make?

>>3216093
Native American's were completely cut off from the rest of the world too. Sub-Saharan Africa was reachable, and Roman armies did it multiple times. Native Americans developed writing, complex cities, political structures, and boats, while Africans did literally none of that.

>>3216685

They also had the same things in Africa.

You can just google and find it.

>>3216469
That might be a bad call to make. In 50 years Africa will be even less hospitable than it was before, thanks to climate change.

>>3216701

Holy shit, will that continent ever get a break.

>>3216701
If that's the case, we'll be able to examine genetically African people in the rest of the world

>>3216675
that's how it works, but we tried it before, in loco, with colonization. didn't work.
culture is complex, you can influence it but you'll never know what the end result will be. for example, we imposed our religions to them, centuries ago. parts of Africa are muslim other parts are catholic, but all of them chimps keep being pagans at heart.

>>3216709
>all of them chimps keep being pagans at heart.

Fuck you.

>>3216730
what?

>>3216707
And test in our environment if it's nature or nurture.

>>3215955
All there money from that goes to weapons to fund General Tyrone Mabobo's war.

>>3216351
>They expect the black man to spontaneously create a modern infrastructure and also scientists from a state of tribalism.

More like we wonder why these subhumans remained at the hunter-gatherer stage from prehistory all the way to the 19th century...

>>3216752
sorry for burgeoning, what do you want to test?

>>3216770
>More like we wonder why these subhumans remained at the hunter-gatherer stage from prehistory all the way to the 19th century...

hunter-gathering only exist in a handful of groups you intellectual subhuman.

>>3216770

Every human was a hunter gather until the agriculture revolution which was most of the time we existed.

>>3216499
>being this dumb
Botswana has an extremely small population and a very large amount of area/resources. This means that even basic levels of resource exploitation provides more than enough wealth to amply provide for all of its citizens. Despite this, Botswana is still only medium HDI despite playing on extreme easy mode as far as nations go.

Saudi Arabia has developed a society where basically no one has to work, free education, healthcare, etc. Is this because Arabs are superhuman? Of course not, it's because they have enormous amounts of oil and barely any people in comparison to their size.

>>3216122
NO IT MUST BE THEIR INFERIOR IQ

>>3216122
Maybe they should resist these (((foreign influences)))

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>>3216247
[angry shouting reply]

>>3216524
Wait a second, hold up... Are you saying that having a completely homogeneous society is a cornerstone of a truly civilized nation? Fucking Nazi.

>>3215976
>coffee is controlled by foreign corporations
You're fucking retarded and know nothing about coffee farming.

>retards think science is anything but poison

>>3215955
Can't help but notice there's only like two countries on that map who produce something that could feed a population. You can't eat gold and oil. There is a reason the historically most advanced civilizations are places either able to grow lots of food or lie on a trade route between the former.

>>3216324
What the fuck are you talking? The places where European civilization started were the Mediterranean. You know that place with great weather and amazing land?

>>3216197
Incas were superior to europeans though.

>>3217038
>tie sharp rock to stick
>cut animal efficiently
>tribe pummels you to death with only their bear hands for using technology

>>3215955
who ever said they're underdeveloped because they have no access to resources?

>>3216561
>Japan started industrializing by Meiji and was given a shit ton of AID by the US after surrender
What, and niggers aren't?

Stop lying

>>3215976
This

>>3216247
Shit for brains /pol/tard put a bullet in your head please. You are of less worth to humanity than the brown people you love to squeal about all day.

>>3217131
>You know that place with great weather and amazing land?
Do you just make shit up?

>>3217322
Have you people reached a new level of retarded to believe that the Mediterranean isn't top tier land?

>>3217343
It's not, you fucking retard, most of the coastal areas are fucking rock while the vast majority of land area was covered by forests (gone by now). If you want top tier farm land in Europe its in Ukraine or even the Pannonian plane, not the med.

Agriculture didn't even develop in Europe, it was introduced from the middle east, as were domesticated animals. IIRC all of the modern cows can be traced back to a single population in the middle east.


Jesus fucking christ, the 1200bc mediterranian civilisation almost disappeared due to a famine compounded by invasions and natural disasters.

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