Was this guy the most successful conman of the last decade?

Literally who

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>>3207838
No, this guy is.

>>3208610
BRAAAAP

>>3208649
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco
just your regular commie really

Elon Musk; still carries over to this decade.

>>3211347
>"The aims of The Venus Project have no parallel in history, not with communism, socialism, fascism or any other political ideology.

>>3207838
>successful

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Not even close

>>3207838
God, i hated this marxist faggot.
Whenever the dangers of automation, which is a real discussion we need to talk about, came along as a subject on the Internet, his drones came along and started spaming how TVP is the solution and will save us.

Same old 50's(literally, the designs are pretty much unchanged from his first book he published more than half a century ago, except he swapped atomic power to renewables) shitty soviet style cybernetification cities, with mainframe era understanding of IT, an extreme tabula rasa state, and crappy memes("durr, hurr, we had more planes after we got in WW2 than before, so money is dead, lol").

It's funny seeing how his project has been unraveling at an increasingly accelerated rate as he started dying, and how that he's gone, everyone is scuttling ship(for example, their publishing arm abandoned them because, ironically, they didn't pay them, while accusing them of stealing funds. Yes, the guys that don't believe in money bogged into financial disputes)

>>3211404
In the last decade all Trump was doing was hosting a reality show.

>>3211391
Communism is an economic system divorced from politics. And you can quote that all you want, the shoe still fits.

>>3211411
And taking part in the occasional scam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

>>3211391
Kek.
I don't understand how he can say that with a strait face.

It's textbook marxism, a stateless, cashless society, with all means of production and raw materials as public property, which has result in a soviet style new man.

Even their "technology will make it possible" woo is taken from Engels, and the russians tried pretty much the same thing in the 60's.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160410021303/http://www.redplenty.com:80/Red_Plenty/Front_page.html

>>3211411
And now he has the most powerful office in the world. Perhaps he hasn't been consistent with it, but he has made the largest gain

>>3211411
>>3211423

jesus, americans are crazy

>>3211411
You do realize the Presidential election was in the last decade?

>>3211425
>It's textbook marxism, a stateless, cashless society, with all means of production and raw materials as public property

This isn't really the definition /his/ uses to call things communist.
More like "it was ruled by a military clique that had socialist in the name".

>>3211653
Because /his/ is full of idiots that don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism.

>>3211674
So at what point does capitalism become socialism in a single country?

>>3212111
Socialism - shared ownership of roads, rivers, lakes, airspace, housing, factories, farms, airports, schools, hospitals, etc.
Capitalism - private ownership of the above.

>>3212111
When the capitalists get overthrown. That's the entire premise of the theory.

>>3212143
Overthrown? Bernstein noticed that Marx was wrong and the workers were actually getting richer so he wanted the changes to come naturally. That's more or less how social democracy was born. With time it morphed into some kind of weird merge with Keynesian economics and people called it "third way" still undermining private property.

>>3212120
So what do western countries have and is it bad?

>>3212398
Western countries are capitalist.

>is it bad
Define bad. It optimizes for justice (you get what you earn). Many will insist that we should instead optimize for other ethics and morals, like equality (everyone gets what they need).
Basically its a question of what do you value more - rewarding superiority and passively punishing inferiority, or preserving dignity and inherently valuing human life.
It isn't a simple question and anyone who passionately claims to have the right answer and that his opponents are morons for not seeing the obvious is a moron himself.

>>3212417
So if they're capitalist, whose personal pavement am I walking on right now?
And also why are they taking 30-40% of my salary as social security and healthcare which at some point will be spent on people I don't know?
Western countries are not capitalist nor socialist. It's just the best possible mix of the two. We've reached the endpoint of social policy that will only slightly shift from left to right and vice-versa for the next 50 years. Then we will go drastically left, but how high should tax on automation be?

>>3211404
TWENTY (20)
FIVE (5)
QUEERS

>>3212480
If you are a puritan, neither capitalism nor socialism ever existed. Obviously you need to make your ideas and ideology fit reality.
As I stated, it is ultimately about either optimizing for merit (get what you deserve, and starve if you are useless), or optimizing for equality and "christian morals" (everyone gets what they need, the strong lead and help the weak).
I think the west is trying to be a meritocracy, a just system that rewards success and punishes failure. Thus its logical conclusion and ideal is a capitalist one, where those of superior merit have ownership of superior resources, and can rent then out to inferior peoples. We just have to solve how inheritance works, so that inferior people don't inherit their superior parent's resources.

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When I was in college, my girl-friend was with this dude who was into Zeitgeist the Documentary and all sorts of government conspiracies - including that Al-Qaeda wasn't real.

Anyways - I live in Florida - so when they came down for Christmas we went to Jupiter, FL and they paid to sit in on a seminar with Fresco.

He shared a few philosophical gems - showed us his model for a utopian civilization - but he really didn't show us anything he'd invented or actually made. Just an idea man mostly.

He made some lens that helped you see the bends in eyeglasses lenses. And he made some metal press for making other metal objects - but that was it.

I guess he also lived in some sort of eco-friendly dome house that was supposed to be resistant to hurricanes or something.

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>>3207838
>>3211391