What were the biggest strategic backfires in human history?
Yeshu is an acronoym for Yimmach Shemo Ve-zikro which means "May his name and memory be blotted out/obliterated".
They also refer Hitler as the same phrase. Little do they know, he is one of the most well known names today. Maybe they should stop wishing people's name to be blotted out.
>>3203860
Germans sending Lenin back to Russia
britain and usa not joining german reich in the war against soviet union and marxism
>>3203860
Pearl Harbor. What the actual fuck were the nips thinking?
>>3204100
this. also usa joining the ww2
>>3203860
Is that really a backfire, though? It's hard to say whether the rise of Christianity helped or hurt Jews.
>>3204036
You do realize the Talmud mentions many different Yeshus, right? Christians are so full of themselves they think any reference to Yehoshua is a reference to Jesus. Also shut up about the Hitler part you are pulling that out of your ass. The real curse people say is "May his bones be crushed," which Jews say about Hadrian and sometimes Hitler.
>>3204100
wasn't the mistake not pushing after pearl harbor?
>>3204122
>oy vey is anudha shoah!!!!
>>3204106
>Is that really a backfire, though?
Yes, about as blatant of a backfire as is possible.
>It's hard to say whether the rise of Christianity helped or hurt Jews.
That's not relevant to anything. It wasn't a backfire because Christianity hurt jews, it was a backfire because they tried to get rid of him but his subsequent martyrdom made him the focus of the largest religion in the world.
>>3203860
This wasn't a backfire at all. In fact, it solidified Jews on the world stage. They were irrelevant before and Samaritans and Jews were fighting over who the true successor of the Israelites were, then the Christians solidified Jews as the successor.
Also, because Christianity banned usury, certain Jews were able to get rich as fuck. To me, that's not a backfire. Without Christianity there would have never been a such thing as a Court Jew. When Christianity became the religion in Rome, Roman woman swarmed to Jewish men because they got attached to the Old Testament and wanted their kids to be chosen. This is why Sephardic/Ashkenazic Jews have so many Southern European DNA. It was such a phenomenon the Byzantines had to ban it.
>>3204190
>This is why Sephardic/Ashkenazic Jews have so much***** Southern European DNA.
>>3204122
Yep and all those "Yeshus" happened to be carpenters. Pure coincidence goyim.
>>3204194
That proves you've never read the Talmud. They weren't all carpenters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshu
>>3204190
>Roman woman swarmed to Jewish men
Sure thing Schlomo. It's not like Roman soldiers didn't rape Mother Bergerstein and treated her the whore she was.
>>3204190
What the fuck is with all this contrarian bullshit? It's very obviously a backfire. The jews wanted him gone, but in having him killed ended up making him the biggest thing in the world. Whether this was inadvertently good for them in the long run or not has nothing to do with it being a backfire.
>>3204200
>You haven't read the Talmud, but I have since I read its Wikipedia
https://youtu.be/hMBramnCg_s
argument dismissed
>>3204202
Explain why modern Jews are Middle Eastern paternally and European maternally? Quit being so insecure.
>>3204210
Not an argument. Christianity wasn't relevant to Jews pre-Constantine.
>>3204215
WRONG.
The Jews actively persecuted the early church and the first Christian martyr, Stephen, was murdered by a mob of hysterical Hebrews.
>>3204213
>pulling bullshit out of his ass
>Ashkenazi
>Middle eastern
Pick one. Could it be because Khazar was once in Europe?
Don't we wuz romanz n shiet schlomo.
>>3204209
>The jews wanted him gone
Source? Considering every single writer of the New Testament was a Jew, i'd disagree with this. It was a civil war between Jews, every single person involved was a Jew.(((Matthew))), (((Mark))), (((John))),(((Luke))), (((Simon))), (((Andrew))), (((Philip))), (((Thaddeus))), (((Bartholomew))), (((Thomas))), (((James))), (((Judas))), ALL Jews. Every single one.
>B-BUT MUHH APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES
You mean, (((Paul the Apostle)))?
>>3204215
>Christianity wasn't relevant to Jews pre-Constantine.
Lel. So what was the cruxifixion about?
>>3204224
>>3204224
>2017
>believing in a communist kike theory invented by jews as a way to distance themselves from christ-killers even though there is no linguistic or genetic evidence in favor of it and yiddish has aramaic, hebrew and judeo-latin roots but no turkish roots whatsoever
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>3204229
Nice edited photo to make Jesus look like a khazarian rat like yourself. Here's a picture of black Jesus while we're at it.
>>3204222
They didn't "persecute" the Church, they were fighting against fellow Jews who were heretics.
>>3204236
>yiddish has aramaic, hebrew and judeo-latin
Borrowed words =/= root words
Stop distorting history schlomo
>>3204238
You are the one who buys into a theory invented and pushed solely by Communist kikes. Give me proof in favor of it. You have none, you fucking rat.
>>3204239
>They didn't "persecute"
>they were fighting
[pilpul intensifies]
>>3204239
>they were fighting against fellow Jews who were heretics.
Ah I see, so following Christianity did not deem them as heretics.
>>3204251
>>3204244
Where is the Turkish roots in Yiddish? Why are there Aramaic and Hebrew roots but NO Turkish roots? Any linguist knows how retarded the Khazar theory, ignoring the fact that there is zero genetic evidence for it even though Jews are the most genetically tested group in the world. Stormfaggotry is a mental illness.
>>3204224
It's true. Jewish men married European women and converted them.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/.premium-1.551825
>>3204262
No one mentioned Turkish but you. The burden of proof is on you.
>>3204262
>Any linguist knows how retarded the Khazar theory, ignoring the fact that there is zero genetic evidence for it even though Jews are the most genetically tested group in the world. Stormfaggotry is a mental illness.
I don't think people who push the khazar thing are mentally ill. They seem to do it knowing it's bullshit just to spite jews.
>>3204122
>live in Christendom when Talmud was written
>hate Christians and are hated back
>"Oh no goyim, it's anuda Jesus we condemned to boiling shit we swear!"
>>3204267
By saying they were Turkic Nomads, you are automatically saying they are. The burden of proof is on you, the one with zero evidence in favor of your argument. Where is the genetic proof for a Turkic origin? That's a basic question, if you have none then fuck off.
>>3204269
It's true though. Christianity was utterly irrelevant to them, it was a small Jewish sect. They hated them like they hated the Sadducees and the Essenes, and even then you had a shit ton of Jewish Christian apologists like Gamaliel who was easily one of the most influential Rabbis ever.
>>3204263
Khazarian women are also classified "European". Nice try we wuzism and shiet.
>>3204271
>By saying they were Turkic Nomads
Where?
>>3204284
Where is proof for the Khazar theory? I'm genuinely asking.
>>3204288
The Khazars were Turkic nomads which some of their elite converted to Judaism. What did you think they were, Europeans?
>>3204284
>Southern European DNA is Khazarian
I'm done with /his/
>>3204290
Where is proof Jews aren't Khazars? The burden of proof is on you, not me. These so-called "Jews" you see today aren't Jews at all.
>>3204283
Wasn't Rabbinc Judaism the last remaining sect of Judaism outside Christians?
I was under the impression the other groups were either completely gone or irrelevant after the destruction of the Temple in the 60s CE.
>>3204291
>being this retarded
>>3204290
Where did this tradition of hassidic Jews wearing the black hat and black suit originate from?
>>3204284
>Khazar
>Southern European genetics
Mate, just admit you're wrong.
>>3204306
Nope. The Hellenistic Jews still existed, along with Samaritanism.
>>3204314
Baal Shem Tov. Hasidism, the 17th century. It was a response to Reform Judaism, they chimped out and went crazy and now they do all that weird shit. It's not real Judaism, they believe in Kabbalah which is a 12th century Spanish forgery.
>>3204315
We Southern Europeans and shiet
What percentage of that is Southern European? Also, this is discussion directed towards ashkenazi Jews, not Sephardic.
>>3204319
I asked where.
>>3204319
18th century, not 17th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidism
>>3204324
Physically, Eastern Europe. Why is that relevant?
Shooting MLK so he became a martyr
>>3204322
>What percentage of that is Southern European?
Read the God damn article.
>“Here we show that all four major founders, about 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus,” said Richards. “Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages were not brought from the Levant, as commonly supposed, nor recruited in the Caucasus, as sometimes suggested, but assimilated within Europe."
>Also, this is discussion directed towards ashkenazi Jews, not Sephardic.
Now read the God damn title of the article.
>>3204322
Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews are nearly identical genetically. European Jews have little to no European DNA that's not from the South. There are studies showing that on average Turks and Arabs have more Slavic DNA than even Russian Jews.
>>3204337
Still didn't answer my question. Learn how to read you inbred.
>>3204349
>There are studies showing that on average Turks and Arabs have more Slavic DNA than even Russian Jews.
How is that even possible?
>>3204332
>W-w-why is that relevant goy?
>>3204231
It was a roman execution method, Pontus Pilate was the man who ordered the death of Jesus, Fuckwit.
>>3204360
Slavery. Slav is where the word slave comes from. It honestly makes sense. Arabs and Turks were buying blonde slavic girls for concubines, and Jews were usually segregated from the Goyim while they were in Europe. This would explain why the European DNA that Jews have was an admixture that happened over a thousand years ago rather than something recent.
>>3204359
Does white nationalism make its followers retarded, or are the retarded naturally inclined to become white nationalists?
>>3204364
It was a serious question. What the fuck do Hasidic satanists have to do with anything?
>>3204367
Ah yes, you're a true follower of the Talmud.
Jewish tradition values Jewish life more than Gentile life. Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158
>>3204401
No? I'm a Irish Catholic, The jews were a factor in the death of Christ (Which, he foresaw, so it's hardly a grand crime in the first place) but Pontus Pilate made the final call.
>>3204409
He hardly had a choice. Kill the firebrand zealot stirring up shit or risk letting the crazies stir up more shit during the Passover in Jerusalem.
>>3204409
>I'm a Irish Catholic
>>3204401
>quoting Jewish commentators as proof what Jews believe
Please stop with this garbage. Two Jews, three opinions. Also, you are cherry picking, why would Jews think Europe is Edom? Edomites were Middle Eastern, and they were forcibly converted during the Hasmoneans.
>>3204401
>Edom is Europe
WE
>>3204511
The Khazars don't understand scripture. What do you expect?
>>3204528
They aren't Khazars. Quit LARPing.