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shit leftover empire

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>tfw no surviving Greek influenced states in the Middle East

>>3196262
>no non Arab influenced states in Middle East

>>3196262
Good. No debt ridden shitholes.

>>3196265
>I'm retarded

>>3196262
Good.

>>3196464
Just terrorist filled shitholes.

>>3196627
No one is talking about the Balkans here.

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>>3196265
>what is Israel

M E M E
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Would having more centralized government saved the Seleucids?

After all, the Parthians go the hold of the east through strap revolts and Seleucids lost massive territories due to other satrap revolts.

>>3196779
centralization is hard work that requires prudent governance. not generally a Diadochi strongsuit

>>3196037
>bully not so tough after being raped

>>3196865
Megnesia was a lie.

Romans and Seleucids had the same number of men fighting and most of Seleucids failure came from accidents such has elephant rampage and chariot jams.

>>3196705
>that pic
Fucking Israeli propaganda, it gets on my nerves.

>>3196779
they needed a more decentralized government to make it more appealing for the tribes to at least ostensibly be a part of their system, at worst they would linger on like the Abbasids as mediators, facilitating trade, resolving disputes and organizing alliances despite only really controlling a few cities, ideally they would negotiate and marry into a powerful tribe that threatens to conquer everything, adapt and develop a stable longlasting system

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>>3196037
>twenty six kingdoms
I'm more interested in them desu.

>>3196941
>they needed a more decentralized government to make it more appealing for the tribes to at least ostensibly be a part of their system
But wouldn't that lead to a more higher chance of revolt? After all, the satrapy system was already proven failure in Achaemenid time

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>>3196262
>what is Cyprus

>>3196037
Why didn't the Seleucids intermarry with the native Syrians? Were they racist?

>>3196966
Tarim Basin oasis city-states were based as fuck.

>>3198024
rightful turkish clay

>>3196705
>1000 BCE
>implying
lol wut
Torah is 600 BC old AT BEST, and it puts Abraham in a time he simply could have not existed.

>no more chill Greco-Bactrian states with philosophers peacefully discussing with Buddhists without killing each other
Islam was a mistake

>>3196037
Don't cry because it happened...
Smile because it's over.

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>>3196037
>*teleports behind you*
>'Pshh nothin personnel kid'
>*Takes your entire eastern frontier*

>>3196705
>almost half of the population and growing is arab
>no arab influence

Nice try, Schlomo

>>3196893
>using elephants and chariots in the first place

>>3198046
They didn't?

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>>3196705

>>3198497
Nothing is rightfully Turkish

>>3196905
I hope you're just as bothered by the """"""palestinian"""""" version

>>3199652
>he doesn't know the Arab birth rate is plummeting
>he doesn't know the Jewish birth rate is rising
>he doesn't know Palis in the West Bank have 3 kids each and the Settlers have 6 each

You fool.

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>>3196037
Why didn't the Seleucids conquer the Hasmoneans? Did they fear the Hebrew warrior?

>>3199695
Yes, but the haredi are literally worse than Arabs.

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>>3196705
Tbh Abraham was from modern day Iraq and when Moses finally arrived in Canaan with the Israelites there were already other people living there(amorrhites, Moabites) which were shoah'd and settled. But God gifted them the land for their loyalty and allowed them to settle there. But modern day rabbinical jews can't make the religious claim or historical claim that the land is theirs.

>>3196037
but nothing of value was lost

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>>3199712
You do realize Abraham wasn't a historical person, right? Your argument is shitty considering History shows Israelites were just Canaanites that developed Monotheism so they called themselves Israelites and chimped out at the others. To say Jews don't belong in Judea is like saying Chinese don't belong in China. In fact, now that they are back in their homeland they are fixing their parasitic tendencies.

>>3199704
Antiochus the Great conquered all that from the Ptolemys

>>3196037
How did this thing manage to be such a clusterfuck? And how did it manage to achieve anything at all?

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>>3199704
Why didn't the Hasmoneans conquer all of the Middle East? Did they fear the Goy warrior?

>>3198046
Nibba they did. Seleucus Nicator was one of the few people who didn't divorce right after the Susa marriage.

>>3199648
More like "Takes your entire eastern frontier while you were busy with dealing Antigonus in the west, so you really couldn't care about the east right now.

Also, Seleucids and Mauryans generally had good relationships.

>>3199737
>Satrapy revolt
>constant civil war due to kings having harem and succession struggles'
>Magnesia
>Parthians

>>3199737
>And how did it manage to achieve anything at all?

No it didn't. Name one accomplishment of the """Seleucids"""

>>3196864
Under-rated post, but you should just change Diadochi to Greek in general.

>>3199874
goyish is the adjective senpai
T. Jew

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>>3200332
Okay i will try:

Seleukia on tigris the greatest greek colonie in middle est who have done Ctesiphon who have done Bagdad

Many and many towns and great royals cities who still alive today like latakia = laodicea, and Antiocheia, one of the cradles of christianity.

They are the only dynasty in Orient with antigonids who have really confront romans like mans and not desparate dogs

They have command many expeditions to recogniz and know the earth so they contribute to geographia and history

they offer for many poor greeks an another chance to make the life they wanted to live by the colonisation

And to finish they have done the all fucking business of rules and laws who alexander haven't done to make his dream come true

>>3196262
Nuristan seems to be genetically Greek influenced

>>3200469
Why?

>>3200469
How?