Let's settle this once and for all, were they french?
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>>3190923
>applying modern conceptions of nationality to the middle ages
What a shitty thread.
>>3190923
Yes and no.
They spoke french, they lived in France, they adopted french customs, they read french books, fought like the french, built castles like the french, had great cathedrals like the nothern french, so all the brits spamming ">normans >french" are retards.
Yet, the normans were a french sub-culture. Despite adopting their language, the normans were a people with a certain philosophy, who were quick to adopt other people's customs, who were great travellers, and they certainly didn't think themselves as french, a concept that didn't have the same meaning in the middle ages. So all the frogs spamming "normans are french" are retards.
>>3190934
if you will, were they franks or nordics?
>>3190923
They were Normans
troll thread but >>3190941
gets it
Anyways the normans are more french than the saxons were english. Since the modern english culture is heavily influenced thereafter by the Normans and their own unique culture.
They refer to themselves as French. Both in the Bayeux Tapestry and the charter for London.
HIC CECIDERUNT SIMUL ANGLI ET FRANCI IN PR[O]ELIO
Here English and French fell at the same time in battle.
Were BRETONS French? Alan Rufus was WIlliam's right hand man.
>>3190923
>>3191085
He says, whilst toiling, fighting and dying for a Norman.
>>3190923
Yes they were
bayeuxtapestry.jpg
>>3190923
They were a type of French, like Burgundians or Parisians, or Occtians.
>>3190923
Pretty sure the concept of 'French' didn't exist before.
Calling the Normans Norse is like calling the French Franks.
>>3193245
Ok.
>>3190923
Depends of when
When they arrived in 911?
Nope, they were basically Danes
When they invaded England in 1066
Then yes, they were pretty much French, be it culturally (French language, way of fighting and way of life) or genetically (8 generations of interbreeding with the French)
but were they white?
>>3191085
My favorite part about that comic is how the other soldiers he's with want him to shut up and clearly regard him as a deranged obsessive.