Death and Resurrection

>>3189236
You're laboring under a misconception of what "death" is.

God said the day they sinned, they would surely die. That very day. Die. But they lived for centuries.

To you, death is the cessation of life. To God, death is separation from Him, as He is Life.

Adam and Eve had the Spirit of God living in them, and when they sinned, the Spirit fled them and they died. They were separated from God. They lost the glory they had and immediately knew that they were naked. That is the death God was talking about; the separation from God, Who is Life.

Life is not some random process brought about by ages of chance and time. If you can shed yourself of that modern delusion, and know that God is the author of all life, the "death" Adam and Eve suffered will make sense to you.

As will your own state of being, as you too were born dead, in the image of fallen mankind, and not filled with the Holy Spirit of God.

Every human is going to live forever in one of two eternal destinations, and God has made it possible for us to choose which one we want. So while Adam did let sin and death and pain and sorrow and disease into the world, and the world and mankind and all there is was cursed, there is an opportunity before each and every one of us to believe Jesus is Who He says He is, and to live with Him forever in a glorified body.

Stop thinking that death only means physical, biological death. The second death, being cast into eternal torment in a lake of fire, is very real, and is an eternal separation from God.

Genesis was happening in different dimension or something. It was 'paradise' after all.

And you can simply say that biology as it is it's a result of sin.

Also it's all bullshit honestly.

>>3189251
Yeah because the unborn children had any choice at all. The fuck are you talking about?

>>3189267
Correct. They have no choice. They go directly to heaven, as does anyone who dies prior to their age of accountability.

>>3189267
I wasn't aware that fetuses were reading 4chan. My apologies.

>>3189269
What's the fucking point then? Why didn't they have life? It's unfair. You claim that God is eventually making everything fair.

>>3189280
From one perspective, they have the best life possible.

>>3189251
This still doesn't address the issue of biological, bodily death and decay. What is the answer? Why do we die bodily then, if Adam only brought spiritual death into the world? If bodily death was part of God's plan from the beginning, why did he decide to raise Christ in an eternal body, and promise a similar eternal body to those who believe in Him? How and why is physical death something to be defeated if it is merely part of God's design?

>>3189280
God's cruel and one day there will be a restoration of all things.
What's it matter if they never were born? They awake in heaven. That's better than toiling through life and potentially going to hell, IMO.

>>3189253
According to philo the garden of eden was the platonic intellectual world of forms, the trees of the garden were so many ideas, Adam and Eve were disimbodied souls, the forbidden fruit was matter and the fall was the descent into the body. Hence you will surely die, because only when souls are in bodies can they experience death. They surely died, and reincarnated, and died again multiple times.

>>3189298
So they get a ticket to heaven for nothing? It's not like they did anything good.

Also if we are on it, explain how does it actually work. These unborn children never developed any consciousness. Do they 'grow older' in heaven? Or does a 'soul' automatically have features of an adult brain? What about mentally impaired people?

>>3189321
Is this bait? Do you need to be an adult to live forever in heaven? Why would you think that?

>>3189335
No, I'm asking if they develop consciousness, thoughts, emotions in heaven.

>>3189340
How could he possibly know that when the Bible doesn't say anything about it? Unless of course he's a catholic then he can ask to pope to make something up on the spot.