/his/, why did blacks and Jews get so interested in jazz?

>>3188960
They like shitty music.

Blacks invented it, just as they did every genre of American music.
Jews profited from it, just as they did every genre of American music.

>>3188960
What is with this shoehorning DA JOOZ into everything

>>3188975
I'm not a /pol/tard spouting conspiracies. It's just undeniable that a large percentage of the jazz scene was and is comprised of blacks and Jews.

>>3188988
>google it
>its true

learn something every day

>>3188975

theyre always a scapegoat for everything from the bubonic plague to jazz music, but my hypothesis on this website's brand of anti semitism is that a lot of the people on this website have no real identity or God, so they turn to nationalism/nazism or some other extreme ideology because they see other groups like evangellicals or jews and are either turned off by their way of life (as in evangellicals case) or become jealous at cultures like the latter since jews have an identity and a god (the religious ones)

it's no surprise that a lot of people on /pol/ have considered jewish conversion themselves, i've seen several threads about it. in america's case, if /pol/ got rid of minority cultures, than all that would be left in america would be evangellicals, and that would make their identity problem a lot worse

>>3189003
>everytime someone mentions the jews it has to be out of identity crisis/mental illness/virginity/being a loser etc
>it can't be that the jews are actually responsible for many bad things, nope

>>3189003
I don't blame Jews for anything and am not a /pol/ user. I actually am a Judeophile, if anything. I'm just curious as to why, historically, blacks and Jews have had so much influence on and interest in jazz.

>>3189008
Well let's talk about bad things Jews did then. Priove they're the scourge of the earth.

>>3188999
Listen to some John Zorn

Might like it m8

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It wasn't just blacks and jews. It was everyone in the jazz age.

>>3188988
There were/are far more whites into it, even if there are numerous big jew names. I call tell this is another DA JOOS conspiracy thread, but this is just such a ridiculous claim to make.

>>3189012
natural result of it coming out of inner city areas if i had to guess

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>>3189014
Not that anon, but denying that they, as in rich Zionist Jews, have a huge influence on American foreign policy is willful delusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/books/06grim.html

>>3189048
Well, I meant a more historical context. Like in Rome or the middle ages. But whatever.

>>3189038
By virtue of whites having a larger population, of course there are more whites into jazz than Jews, but Jews have so much influence on jazz. Also, why can't I post anything about Jews without neing called a conspiracist /pol/tard? Will you call me anti-Semitic for posting a thread about Jesus too?

>>3189048
Jews have a disproportionate presence in the American elite but are still outnumbered by the real villains: rich WASP Republicans. The Rockefellers and Bushes have caused far more evil than any Goldstein ever could.

>>3189127
Wasps are just the puppets, look at the people that served in Bush's and if he won McCain's administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_S._Zakheim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Cohen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Abrams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Lieberman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Boot

etc. WASP Neocons/Neoliberals are the public face, prominent zionists are in the commities and are the financial backers like Sheldon Adelson and George Soros. There's a reason why Obama was the only president in recent memory to tell bibi to suck a dick and fail to use a veto to stop the passing of a resolution denouncing Israel at the UN.

>>3188960
Because jazz has similarities with Middle Eastern, Eastern European, Spanish music, as does klezmer.

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>>3188960
Because it's a debased and primitive musical genre.

>>3189329
You do realize black people have made every new genre since the 1920's onward right>

>>3189014
why do we have to discuss this.

>>3189329
Why do Nat Socs hate Jazz again?

Is it really an ethnic thing?

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>>3188972
>who is George Gershwin
>who is Willie Smith
>who is Teddy Charles
>who is Lee Konitz
>who is Benny Goodman
>who is Herbie Mann
>who is Buddy Rich
>who is Artie Shaw
>who is John Zorn

You are thinking of Rap music, that's the one where they were all the managers. Jews are pretty nice when it comes to composing Jazz Music.

>>3189169
>reddit spacing
Get the fuck out of here and never come back.

>>3189169
>/pol/'s favorite president is the actual nigger

?

>>3188972
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_genres_of_the_African_diaspora

Well, not every genre, but they ones they didn't invent had their influence in it (looking 1st you country).

>>3189528
>1st
*at

>>3188960
Because in the US Blacks took their spiritual music and modernized it making jazz. Jews in Europe and Jewish immigrants to the US also did the same with their Klemzer music (see Weill and Gershwin).

>>3189012
>I actually am a Judeophile

Philosemites are worse than antisemites.

>>3189339
All new genres absolutely suck.

>>3189556
Define "new". Also, what music do you listen to?

>>3189575
Pop music sucks. Also I'm not that first racist guy. I just hate pop music very much. Scott Joplin is cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9PM_4K86iU

>>3189329
>i base my world view on propaganda posters
meme brain

>>3189419
The Nazis (as in, the OG Nazis) were big believers in Whig History, and thought that, for the German race, at least, the Nazi Party and its values were the "end of history" (or at least SHOULD be the end). As Jazz was not an "approved" form of music, it was definitionally degenerate.

>>3189127
Source? Your claims only hold true for corporate and some other elite I can't remember. In media, art, academia, and finance, at least, Jews are overrepresented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrbBwQ4LbqA

>>3190936
Political influence too (for Jews)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzlenkESktY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhcrRuTsPFI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_JimSuysoE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5A4SRmtHa4

>>3188960

Jazz was the Hip Hop of its day: A loose, free form music that relied heavily upon improvisation. It broke norms, but just musically but culturally as well. It was a form of music that blacks could excel in regardless of the general opinion of society. That's why blacks loved Jazz.

Jews loved it because it was seen as dangerous and culturally corrosive and they're all about that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9kkohRJQC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E6dhN5WCYo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDvAEeQzvzQ

This is the one thing Jews did right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5tJlXCZBes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvkd-gQpoA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evZZiRbP_K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdJzm71Ygm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJcKxlKsAy4