German Revolution

>>3182281
Red, sad and poor.

>>3182281
Possibly would aid Soviets during Polish-Bolshevik war.

>>3182281
As cucked as modern Germany and much poorer.

>>3182281
White

>>3182281
Like Russia is rn

>>3182281
They would have invaded France. Luxemburg was more jingoist and aggressive than Lenin.

The germans would have suffered under Jewish Bolshevism just like the Russians did.

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>>3182288
fpbp

Based noske crushed the commies with an iron, but fair fist

communism would spread, and soon everything would be communist.

The whole planet would be full commie.
Team Anglo COULD NOT COMPETE with Russo-German alliance.

>>3182945

>Luxemburg was more jingoist and aggressive than Lenin.

Really? Somebody here the other day was claiming that she was a pacifist who only participated in the Spartacist uprising because she had no choice. What's the REAL story?

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You'd actually have an industrialized nation under a socialist system meaning the painful and brutal modernization under Stalin wouldn't have had to happen. It could've been beautiful if it weren't fror Freikucks

>>3186502

>Stalin would suddenly chill the fuck out if Germany were socialist

What the fuck am I reading.

>>3186508
I think that anon is implying that Germany wouldn't have such a tumultous industrialization as USSR under Stalin since Germany was industrialized. Anyway, even if that's what he meant, it's still retarded because Stalin being brutal didn't depend on that but on him being a genocidal tyrant, something pretty common in the history of communism. Besides, Russia was already industrializing in tsarist times without a brutal regime.

>>3182281

>it's a "the Spartacist Uprising and the German Revolution were the same event" episode

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There is still hope for Germany.

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>>3186590

>>3186590
Lol

>>3184654
the story is don't believe everything you read on the internet, boyo

>>3186590
Was there any real support for this heeb?

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>>3186572
You know, grain sales weren't even close to the levels necessary to fund a full scale industrialization. The tsarist "industry" was solely developed to produce military material.

Also ascribing Stalins "genocidal tyranny" exclusive importance for the economic development of the SU is brainlet as fuck.

>>3186928
>You know, grain sales weren't even close to the levels necessary to fund a full scale industrialization. The tsarist "industry" was solely developed to produce military material.
[citation needed]

>Also ascribing Stalins "genocidal tyranny" exclusive importance for the economic development of the SU is brainlet as fuck.
Literally arguing the opposite. My point is that industrialization doesn't require being a brutal ruler and therefore to imply that Stalin was brutal because he had to modernize is stupid. In other words, Stalin was brutal because he was a genocidal tyrant, not because he had to modernize.

>>3182945
>Luxemburg was more jingoist and aggressive than Lenin.
The thing is that Luxy was a Polish nationalist, not G*rman.

>>3182281
>1917
fuck off Ludendorf

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>>3187023
This is just the sumary of the bit on Russian development before 1917 and desu it doesn't really delve into the military aspects of it but that's the argument earlier in the book nevertheless. The book is Farm To Factory by Robert C. Allen.

Stalin was forced by circumstances to do what he did but he unecessarily created those circumstances himself.

>tfw /pol/ conveniently forget the fact that she was very nationalistic
https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1909/national-question/ch01.htm

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>>3182281
>... if the socialists hadn't lost the German revolution of 1917-18?

1. YOU MEAN "COMMUNISTS", NOT "SOCIALISTS".

2. YOU MEAN "JEWS", NOT "GERMANS".

3. YOU MEAN "REVOLT", NOT "REVOLUTION".


THE REAL GERMAN REVOLUTION WAS PERFORMED BY REAL SOCIALISTS IN THE YEAR NINETEEN HUNDRED THIRTYTHREE.

>>3187331
calm down /pol/ack

>>3186590
>>3186638
Who dis?

>>3187607
http://www.politico.eu/article/martin-schulz-im-not-an-alien-in-german-politics/

>>3186590
>>3186638
Probably the most hated kike in Eastern Europe right after Soros.

>durr why didn't they let me and my junta seize power

start shit, get hit

>>3182281
Who /freikorps/ here?

>>3187331
1. Communists are socialists.

2. Do you have a demographic study on the people who formed part of that revolution?

3. The 1918 Revolution foresaw the implementation of a republic. By which metric was it not a revolution?

>>3187331
Who knew the ranks of the Kaiserliche Marine were almost exclusively Jewish? This history has been hidden from us.